what if raiden had joined desperado? (SPOILERS!)

#11NightmareGammaPosted 12/9/2013 1:45:29 PM
easy!

Take Snake, Chaff Grenade, and shoot / Punch him to death =)

Worked against fox too >XD
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#12AoichiPosted 12/9/2013 1:56:13 PM
Story-wise it should be George.

BUT combining the geniuses of Otacon, Sunny and Doktor I think that they can create an UG capable of defeating Raiden.
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#13Squall_exePosted 12/10/2013 4:37:31 AM
NightmareGamma posted...
easy!

Take Snake, Chaff Grenade, and shoot / Punch him to death =)

Worked against fox too >XD


Well Chaff won't work anymore though, EM and RF grenades on the other hand... far more effective.

If you could get Nega-Raiden or any cyborg/UG in to a room filled with EM Grenades, set them off and quickly blast his/her human brains while he's stunned then yeah it would be possible to kill him.

Aoichi posted...
Story-wise it should be George.

BUT combining the geniuses of Otacon, Sunny and Doktor I think that they can create an UG capable of defeating Raiden.


I suppose so, I mean considering Sunny has created some pretty impressive spaceships they could make something strong enough. But then the question comes of whether or not it'll have the Neural AI with the resolve to keep on fighting even when it's systems start to fail.

Like Wolf said, he lacks man's desire for killing. Nor does he have the moral compass to feel guilt from it, though that may have changed after recent events I imagine...
#14ukokira1Posted 12/23/2013 11:00:04 AM
The world is absolutely f***** then.
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#15Miku_369Posted 12/23/2013 1:40:58 PM
Squall_exe posted...
But yes I see your point but what I've noticed people tend to forget that, this is METAL GEAR we're talking about.... This is a series which is notorious for pulling things out of its @$$ and making it work in some weird convoluted way, I mean if we can explain Vamp's immortality with NANOMACHINES, and have Raiden get soccer kicked into next thursday by Armstrong with FANFARE AN CHEERING IN THE BACKGROUND.... ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.


I'm pretty sure that was a joke for us rather than something that actually happened within the series universe.
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#16F0XholePosted 12/23/2013 5:05:37 PM
Miku_369 posted...
Squall_exe posted...
But yes I see your point but what I've noticed people tend to forget that, this is METAL GEAR we're talking about.... This is a series which is notorious for pulling things out of its @$$ and making it work in some weird convoluted way, I mean if we can explain Vamp's immortality with NANOMACHINES, and have Raiden get soccer kicked into next thursday by Armstrong with FANFARE AN CHEERING IN THE BACKGROUND.... ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.


I'm pretty sure that was a joke for us rather than something that actually happened within the series universe.


It was definitely a reference to Armstrong's college days, and another goofy little thing for us, the users, to enjoy. That said, considering his size, strength, and speed, I highly doubt he was a kicker in college.
#17Squall_exePosted 12/23/2013 11:21:57 PM
F0Xhole posted...
Miku_369 posted...
I'm pretty sure that was a joke for us rather than something that actually happened within the series universe.


It was definitely a reference to Armstrong's college days, and another goofy little thing for us, the users, to enjoy. That said, considering his size, strength, and speed, I highly doubt he was a kicker in college.


Well that may be true, but boy can he kick! Regardless my point still stands, even if we're the only ones who heard it doesn't change the fact something as crazy as the fanfare was used in that scene. That's why I keep saying UNLESS WE "SEE" Snake dying anything could happen.

Because as far as storytelling is concerned, nothing is set in stone unless you actually see and experience it. And even then we might not always be seeing the full picture from the audience's perspective. I mean hell, SPOILERS FOR MGS4

We all though that brain dead husk with Eva was Big Boss, until he ACTUALLY SHOWED UP ALIVE!! Right before he died again to give closure, and that just proves my point, one "Snake" already came back from the dead!