I want to use Sawsbuck but he doesn't have any flinch moves so he does not fit into my strategy....
if Serene Grace would increase the chance of King's Rock causing a flinch... that would be sick!
so I wonder does Serene Grace stack with King's Rock?
doubt anyone really knows...
#2SceptilesolarPosted 4/17/2011 8:33:48 PM
There are way better ways to abuse flinchhax than that... --- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick
#3Number4RocketPosted 4/17/2011 8:36:38 PM
Sceptilesolarbeam posted... There are way better ways to abuse flinchhax than that... --- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick
But if he wants to go for his offskew way, then give him some adivce, bro.
#4kyamatoPosted 4/17/2011 8:47:09 PM
Smogon did some investigation back in D/P days: http://www.smogon.com/dp/items/kings_rock. General gist is that flinching probability follows this formula: p + (1 - p) * 0.1 where p is the inherent chance of the item flinching. As you can see, if p = 0, then 0 + 1*0.1 = 0.1, which is true to King's rock's description.
Note however that the formula is for D/P, and it has yet to be proven the same mechanism is true for B/W. I personally think it's safe to assume so however.
#5ChocoboMog123Posted 4/17/2011 9:24:06 PM
30% extra damage from LO >>> 10% extra damage from King's Rock. Even if it did stack with Serene Grace, LO would be better. --- "You're sorely underestimating the power of nostalgia goggles." - adjl http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110218.gif
whoops misses this section of the description on bulbapedia " It does not, however, improve the chance of item effects." - http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Serene_Grace
#7AdmiralQballPosted 4/17/2011 10:43:00 PM
Plus Serene Grace Sawsbuck doesn't exist. 5th gen DW pokes aren't available in DW. --- Pearl FC 3909 4588 9972 White FC 1291 7806 6705
#8Lord_MuhznitPosted 4/17/2011 11:01:50 PM
I'm pretty damn sure SG DOES affect King's Rock's flinch rate at least. My flinchsparce has performed unusualy well as of late. Even still, 60% flinch chance is pretty cool.
ChocoboMog123 posted... 30% extra damage from LO >>> 10% extra damage from King's Rock. Even if it did stack with Serene Grace, LO would be better.
1. It's a Flinch chance, not extra damage. 2. King's Rock stacks with flinching moves now, so Dunsparce's Headbutt has at least a 70% flinch rate. 3. 0 damage from inflicting flinch 3 turns in a row> losing 30% HP in that same time period. --- I am Muhznit: Supernatural Bust Enchantment Sorcerer of the Random Insanity board. "I don't objectify women! I womanize objects!"