Smogon says that Speed Boost Blaziken is uber, but what about Blaze? --- Pokemon White FC: 0518-3959-3841 -- Tyler
#2st_midgetmanPosted 9/23/2011 4:24:09 PM
Yes. Do not question it further. --- GT: geblobledee Black FC: 4513-0074-9877
#3GirollePosted 9/23/2011 4:24:33 PM
I believe blaziken as a whole is banned. Lol I just defeated one on wifi. Their trick room reuniclus+SB blaziken = I win.
#4Roc_RaidaPosted 9/23/2011 4:25:54 PM
Both are banned.
Why? Because they don't want any complex bans.
Think about like this, should we allow Mewtwo to OU if his only moves that he's allowed to use are Confusion, Water Pulse, Shock Wave, Incinerate or something?
When does it stop?
#5businessguy1031Posted 9/23/2011 4:32:01 PM
Blaziken isn't that broken, which is why it's UU. So no, blaze blaziken isn't uber nor would it ever be uber. Speed Boost JUST makes it go up one tier, but that's it. Seriously, does anybody know what the move Psychic is? --- My name is Joe. I own a small business overseas called "Liberty." If you need real estate, then be sure to take your business over to Liberty.
#6Wildfire1313Posted 9/23/2011 4:33:37 PM
I know right smogon doesn't know what the move psychic is what a bunch of smorons
and smogon and nintendo both don't know what ICE BEAMS is which is why they both banned Rayquaza, what a bunch of smorons --- http://i39.tinypic.com/2ic15d2.jpg
#7MrNewbletPosted 9/23/2011 4:35:13 PM(edited)
ikr unban garchomp cuz antyging with ice beam doesnt fear of him rite guyz
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#8SunO0Posted 9/23/2011 4:44:01 PM
Too be fair, banning a certain ability + Pokemon combo is nowhere as "complex" as limiting a powerful Pokemon to weak moves. Unlike moves, a certain Pokemon's ability is a permanent part of it. It's even more "permament" than alternate formes, which for the most part can be switched on and off on the same Pokemon.
Why must Blaze Blaziken be banned if Shayman Land forme isn't? A SHaymin can freely switch from non-uber to uber. Meanwhile, a Blaze Blaziken can never become uber.
#9ThatGuyZPosted 9/23/2011 4:49:59 PM
^It's Smogon: you're not gonna get far trying to argue with them and their 1million+ drones... --- Quick! Someone call the number for 911! I fainted from the epic!!!
#10DigiDude77Posted 9/23/2011 4:52:19 PM
People are overanalyzing.
PokemonOnline is simply not complex enough to ban abilities + pokemon.
So, they either had to ban speed boost, or ban blaziken. They opted for Blaziken, to spare Yanmega, Ninjask, etc. --- Pokemon SoulSilver: ~*Friend Code: 1462-8550-1166 Name: Fyn*~ Pokemon White: ~*Friend Code: 0647 5616 2276 Name: Myzou*~