Wow.. Lucario gains Nasty Plot...

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6 years ago#11
Aura Sphere
Shadow Ball
HP Ice
Nasty Plot?


Without Priority, it has to rely on Lucario's terrible base 90 speed. ES and Close Combat were always the necessary moves on the Swords Dance Lucario set, for priority and power respectively, with the last moveslot being used for coverage. If the same thing holds here, Aura Sphere and Vacuum Wave will be necessary on NP Luke, with HP Ice being a reasonable coverage move instead of Shadow Ball. I'd worry that Ice/Fighting won't hit Burunkeru (the new defensive Water/Ghost), though.
6 years ago#12
oh, I totally just noticed that NP Lucario is a fairly good Doryuuzu check

I might just have to use this now
6 years ago#13

From: Arcanine2009 | #003
Not this gen.. /=


Mine knows it.. Too bad he cannot have Nasty plot. :(

I'll just migrate my Lucario.
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6 years ago#14
Nasty Plot Lucario

~ Nasty Plot
~ Aura Sphere / Focus Blast
~ Vacuum Wave
~ Dark Pulse

Item: Life Orb / Balloon
Ability: Inner Focus
Nature: Modest / Timid
EVs: 4Def / 252SpA / 252Spe

I played quite some matches with NP Lucario and he is slightly worse compared to SD Lucario, but still usable and unlike SD Lucario it has slightly different counters and checks different Pokémon. Gyarados, ScarfHeatran, ScarfTtar are less of a problem for NP Lucario and he is a good counter for Doryuuzu, especially with Balloon. Unluckily it lacks the raw power the SD set has. Vacuum Wave is weaker than Extemespeed, Aura Sphere is weaker than CC, Focus Blast is stronger than CC, but unreliable, etc. You can also use a HP of choice, but well, you lose important coverage or priority.

Balloon makes Lucario a good check to some fearsome Pokémon like Doryuuzu and even a counter, if you don't switch on X-Scissor / Return / Rock Slide. Also, Ballon makes it for Lucario laughable easy to get a +2, or even +4, still the loss of Power is very remarkable without LO.

In my opinion NP Lucario isn't worse than SD Lucario, just different and because of both sets being viable, Lucario is harder to counter / deal with,
6 years ago#15
As it's different for every pokemon, can a Lucario be taught Nasty Plot via Move Relearner?
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6 years ago#16

From: DigiDude77 | Posted: 10/10/2010 3:35:38 AM | #015
As it's different for every pokemon, can a Lucario be taught Nasty Plot via Move Relearner?


If a pre-evo can only learn moves that its evo can't...I don't think the evo pokemon can learn moves that it was able to learn in its pre-evo.
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6 years ago#17

From: Maggirus | Posted: 10/10/2010 3:18:00 AM | #014
Nasty Plot Lucario

~ Nasty Plot
~ Aura Sphere / Focus Blast
~ Vacuum Wave
~ Dark Pulse

Item: Life Orb / Balloon
Ability: Inner Focus
Nature: Modest / Timid
EVs: 4Def / 252SpA / 252Spe

I played quite some matches with NP Lucario and he is slightly worse compared to SD Lucario, but still usable and unlike SD Lucario it has slightly different counters and checks different Pokémon. Gyarados, ScarfHeatran, ScarfTtar are less of a problem for NP Lucario and he is a good counter for Doryuuzu, especially with Balloon. Unluckily it lacks the raw power the SD set has. Vacuum Wave is weaker than Extemespeed, Aura Sphere is weaker than CC, Focus Blast is stronger than CC, but unreliable, etc. You can also use a HP of choice, but well, you lose important coverage or priority.

Balloon makes Lucario a good check to some fearsome Pokémon like Doryuuzu and even a counter, if you don't switch on X-Scissor / Return / Rock Slide. Also, Ballon makes it for Lucario laughable easy to get a +2, or even +4, still the loss of Power is very remarkable without LO.

In my opinion NP Lucario isn't worse than SD Lucario, just different and because of both sets being viable, Lucario is harder to counter / deal with,


Why Gyarados? Lucario doesn't have any super effective moves against Gyarados (like rock) for his special set...
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6 years ago#18
What does Balloon do? I can't find it on Serebii's item dex.
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6 years ago#19
Balloon proveds Ground immunity until the user is hit with an attack.
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6 years ago#20
*provides
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