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Custap Berry question

#1LuminousMeteorPosted 1/4/2011 11:26:04 AM
It's regarding how it works -> "If held by a Pokémon, it gets to move first just once in a pinch" I got two scenarios I would like to know what happens if anyone is nice to answer. Let's say it's a Raichu with 300 speed and a Golem(1 HP left) with 200 speed and the Custap Berry is activated.
1) Raichu uses Quick attack and Golem Uses Earthquake, which one acts first?
2) Raichu uses Quick attack and Golem uses Sucker Punch, which one acts first?
Sucker punch + Custap Berry = +2 priority?
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#2nash_clovisPosted 1/4/2011 11:34:16 AM
AFAIK, it doesn't give you priority; it lets you move first as if you were faster.

Also, Sucker Punch has +3(?) priority, so it always out-speeds quick attack.
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#3LuminousMeteor(Topic Creator)Posted 1/4/2011 11:40:38 AM
On Serebii it says sucker Punch got +1 priority though =/ What if Golem uses Quick Attacl (let say he got it) No matter what Golem will always act first? Or Arcanine uses Extreme speed that got +2 priority vs Golem using regular move/ +1 priorit move
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#4ZingangerPosted 1/4/2011 11:43:56 AM
A higher priority move will still go first whether Custap Berry is activated or not. All it does is make you move first in your priority bracket.

And Sucker Punch actually only has +1 Priority. +3 would make it awesome instead of just good.

So in your scenarios:

1) The Raichu attacks first with Quick Attack, KO'ing Golem.
2) The Golem uses Sucker Punch on Raichu, and then Raichu uses Quick Attack.

Custap Berry is mostly a gimmick though, limited to D-Bond use. Props if you can find an actual effective use for it.
#5nash_clovisPosted 1/4/2011 11:45:36 AM
If Golem had Quick Attack, he would always move first.

Though, if Arcanine used a move with higher priority, then Arcanine would go first. But Extremespeed has just +1 priority. So Golem would go first.

Also, Sucker Punch does have +1 priority. My bad.
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#6ZingangerPosted 1/4/2011 11:53:31 AM
But Extremespeed has just +1 priority.

+2 actually.

Anyways, here's Custap Berry's workings:

Deo-S vs. Shuckle who's activated Custap Berry.

Shuckle goes first if:
-Deo uses Tackle, Shuckle uses Tackle. (Same Priority Tier: 0)
-Deo uses Quick Attack, Shuckle uses Mach Punch. (Same priority tier: +1)
-Deo uses Quick Attack, Shuckle uses Extreme Speed. (Shuckle's got higher priority: Deo at +1 vs. Shuckle at +2)

Deo goes first if:
-Deo uses Quick Attack, Shuckle uses Tackle: (Deo's got higher Priority: Deo at +1 vs. Shuckle at 0)
-Deo uses Tackle, Shuckle uses Trick Room. (Deo's got higher Priority: Deo at 0 vs. Shuckle at -7)

Custap Berry acts like Quick Claw: When it activates, you go first within your speed tier, but the item doesn't ignore Priority tiers.
#7nash_clovisPosted 1/4/2011 11:55:57 AM
What are you using to check?

I'm using http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/move_priority

It says it's +1. Did it get an upgrade?
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#8ZingangerPosted 1/4/2011 11:59:23 AM
Yup.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Extremespeed

5th Gen finally changed ExtremeSpeed to be faster than all the other Priority moves. I should've said that before actually. 4th Gen ExtremeSpeed was +1.
#9Thunder_ArmorPosted 1/4/2011 12:01:19 PM
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Extremespeed

According to Bulbapedia, it got upgraded to +2 this generation.
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#10LuminousMeteor(Topic Creator)Posted 1/4/2011 12:01:20 PM
Ah okie thanks for the answers. I think Golem could be pretty useful.

Golem - Custap Berry
Ability:Sturdy
Counter
Explosion
Sucker Punch
Earthquake

Or switch the berry for leftovers and Earthquake for Protect. Use Protect to fully recover HP from SR(if any) then use Counter. The idea is to use counter to KO the other pokemon then the berry activates and you can (hopefully) use Explosion or other move.
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