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Why use black sludge over leftovers on poison pkemon?

#11shinywailordPosted 10/17/2011 6:34:47 PM
if black sludge gets tricked onto a non-poison, they take 1/8 damage each turn, which is better than them getting healed by leftovers. it's a minor thing, but one that may make the difference between a w and a l.
#12drothegreat0nePosted 10/17/2011 6:40:45 PM
I like it. I have two Poke's on my team with Poison immunity.
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#13Missingno_MastrPosted 10/17/2011 6:55:48 PM
LHS_2012 posted...
If a trick Pokemon gets your black sludge, not only will they be poisoned, but they'll become very predictable. Since you already have a poison type, good prediction will prevent them from crippling other teammates.

Black Sludge doesn't poison non-Poison-types. Just damages them. You're thinking of Toxic Orb.
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#14Lord_MuhznitPosted 10/17/2011 9:35:39 PM
shinywailord posted...
if black sludge gets tricked onto a non-poison, they take 1/8 damage each turn, which is better than them getting healed by leftovers. it's a minor thing, but one that may make the difference between a w and a l.

It's 1/16th.

But generally, the best reason to use black sludge is in case you're playing with item clause. True, the things that trick tend to be built bulky, and Black Sludge can be used as a useful weapon against them when combined with other shenanigans (Sticky Hold, Substitute, Taunt, Toxic Orb+Magic Guard, etc) but for the most part, there's not much impact made.
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#15GirollePosted 10/17/2011 9:53:38 PM
I use black sludge on my SubDisable Gengar. Lets me set up an extra sub usually.
#16Miggi3Fr3shPosted 10/17/2011 10:04:04 PM
Girolle posted...
I use black sludge on my SubDisable Gengar. Lets me set up an extra sub usually.

Because a Leftovers SubDisable Gengar wouldn't? Isn't the only time Black Sludge better than Left Overs is when Item Clause is in effect?
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#17DigiDude77Posted 10/17/2011 10:07:46 PM
Item Clause and when you know your opponent's tricker.

You can typically trick them into tricking it back to your original holder with good predictions. And through that, they take a decent chunk of damage from the Black Sludge during that time.
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#18Snowx_Posted 10/18/2011 11:57:03 AM
Why do you assume that the opponent is always going to get a chance to Trick the sludge back to one of your pokemon?
The damage could kill the tricker before that happens, or you might just send your poison-type in to get it back.
It's a 50/50 chance, really. There is no point in arguing.
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#1977guru77Posted 10/18/2011 12:17:18 PM
Don't those items poison the holder, therefore preventing other, unwanted, status effects? I could very well be wrong on this, just thought that would make sense for why they would be useful...
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