every single lobby has had tgi with harrier today

#41Xero_MachariusPosted 1/18/2013 2:22:50 AM
gunhole posted...
Nafzger posted...
I am seeing the Harrier way too much. I could maybe understand if it was at X, but I'm seeing Harrier Is and IIs. I know they have better guns, but you know OMGHARRIER


how many assault rifles are better than a Harrier II....?


IMO it's due to the fact that the other ARs are quite bad not that the Harrier is OP (the gun in general, not on a specific class)
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#42foxopPosted 1/18/2013 2:25:33 AM
Xero_Macharius posted...
gunhole posted...
Nafzger posted...
I am seeing the Harrier way too much. I could maybe understand if it was at X, but I'm seeing Harrier Is and IIs. I know they have better guns, but you know OMGHARRIER


how many assault rifles are better than a Harrier II....?


IMO it's due to the fact that the other ARs are quite bad not that the Harrier is OP (the gun in general, not on a specific class)


The Particle Rifle is arguably superior to the Harrier. The Saber and Typhoon are also very good. The only reason the Harrier is more common is because it's easier to use.
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#43Xero_MachariusPosted 1/18/2013 2:45:03 AM
Shuriken X (COMMON) - Damage Per Round - 48 Burst DPS 885 - Sustained DPS - 297 (Freaking starter SMG)

Revenant X (RARE) - Damage Per Round - 80 Burst DPS - 861 Sustained DPS - 565

Typhoon X (ULTRA RARE) - Damage Per Round - 83 Burst DPS - 887 Sustained DPS - 549

Harrier X (ULTRA RARE) - Damage Per Round - 130 - Burst DPS - 1187 Sustained DPS - 729 (IMO this is how the stats for a UR SHOULD look)

Hurricane 3 (PROMOTIONAL) - Damage Per Round - 108 Burst DPS - 1081 Sustained DPS - 592

Oh, burst dps for Collector SMG is around the same as harrier, slightly lower, but sustained dps is about half-ish.
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#44herduliekmudkip(Topic Creator)Posted 1/18/2013 2:45:21 AM
hey now the particle rifle is boring too but it requires slightly more brain cells than the harrier to use
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#45herduliekmudkip(Topic Creator)Posted 1/18/2013 2:47:25 AM
see the problem with that post is that the harrier does more damage than 2 light machine guns.

also in its description it says it does slightly less damage than the mattock but its taken several buffs to even make the mattock equal to the harrierand thats only at level 10, harrier still does more damage for the other 9 levels
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#46SRR CapdownPosted 1/18/2013 2:57:50 AM
I got the Harrier X last night. My first level X ultrarare. I'm going to play loads of Gold and Plat as a TGI with it and watch all the jelly kids whine on Gamefaqs about my awesome character and awesome gun just flat out showing them up.
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#47foxopPosted 1/18/2013 3:18:19 AM
herduliekmudkip posted...
see the problem with that post is that the harrier does more damage than 2 light machine guns.

also in its description it says it does slightly less damage than the mattock but its taken several buffs to even make the mattock equal to the harrierand thats only at level 10, harrier still does more damage for the other 9 levels


Yeah, but the Revenant is only a Rare level gun, and exceeds the Harrier in clip size and ammo capacity. As far as the Typhoon goes, the post doesn't take into account the fact that the Typhoon has an extra 50% damage against all protection, pushing it above the Harrier for DPS vs Armour, Barriers, and Shields.

And as for the Mattock, A) Weapon description should NOT be taken into account when considering weapon balance, especially this late into the game, and B) If that were such an important aspect to the balance of the Harrier, then the Mattock could simply be buffed, not that it needs it being one of the best Assault Rifles below UR level. Keep in mind that another part of the Harrier's description says it has low heat generation (meaning it would have more ammo), which is obviously false.
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#48abbeldydooPosted 1/18/2013 3:43:18 AM
I just came back to playing this after a very long lay off.What is "tgi" and the Harrier is the Cerberus Harrier?
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#49snowspacePosted 1/18/2013 3:46:00 AM
herduliekmudkip posted...
i mean in this specific manner, the entire community begins using only the same class and weapon because its easy mode

for bf3 it was the m16a3(ugh)


Really? The M16A3 did't bother me that much, Frag rounds and the FAMAS forced me out of BF3. I doubt Black Ops 2 will be any different, its the mindset of the players more than anything, which is amplified by the increased competitive nature of the FPS crowd. Happens to all games if you stick with them long enough.
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#50vigorm0rtisPosted 1/18/2013 3:51:56 AM
What idiot cares what other players are using?
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