Mass Effect music on The History Channel...

#11MezmorizorPosted 5/29/2014 10:13:26 PM
Ryan-06 posted...
Zimmer is good. I like his work. Gladiator, Dark Knight, Last Samurai.
what are saying?


I'm saying Hans Zimmer is a hack because he's a hack. He's a film scorer who has never actually scored a film in his life. For instance, when you go and watch Wicked, whenever something good happens to Elphaba, you'll hear the "wicked witch" theme to remind you that it's just a fleeting moment. This is called using a leitmotif, and leitmotifs not only add unity to a score, but it also helps guide the drama and makes the whole experience more memorable. Every composer worth their salt uses these, and they have been for hundreds of years.

Hans Zimmer doesn't use leitmotifs. Instead, he writes fast music for fast scenes and slow music for slow scenes. His music for Inception could have just as easily been used in The Dark Knight. The same thing holds true for any of his soundtracks.
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#12TemplariShadowPosted 5/29/2014 10:35:43 PM
Pretty sure he rocked a character or motive theme or two in Gladiator. Although much of his works tend to be collaborations of some sort. The Dark Knight had it's share of more thematic elements though.

Zimmer does tend to farm out his work Ryan. Whoever he collaborated with on a particular film tended to due most of the writing with his supervision or using his ideas as a baseline.
#13MezmorizorPosted 5/29/2014 10:42:30 PM
the_old_days posted...
You guys do realize that Hans composes very little of the music that he attributes his name to these days? Most of it is done by composers in the employ of Hans Zimmer Music.


It's all the same overly bassy drivel.

Honestly, I think I'd like him more if he wasn't so arrogant. Yes, Man of Steel has a stradivarius in it. Too bad you turned up the bass and turned down the treble (you know, someone who had taken an orchestration class would have just used a viola), so you might as well have been using a $5000 violin.
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#14MezmorizorPosted 5/29/2014 11:23:34 PM
TemplariShadow posted...
Pretty sure he rocked a character or motive theme or two in Gladiator. Although much of his works tend to be collaborations of some sort. The Dark Knight had it's share of more thematic elements though.

Zimmer does tend to farm out his work Ryan. Whoever he collaborated with on a particular film tended to due most of the writing with his supervision or using his ideas as a baseline.


There's a difference between a leitmotif and a character theme. I might not have made that clear, but a leitmotif has to appear several times modified throughout the score to be a leitmotif.

Rather, let me illustrate my point.

This is an analysis of man of steel's soundtrack. I chose Man of Steel because it was the first Hans Zimmer "score" analysis I found on google.
http://www.filmmusicnotes.com/hans-zimmers-score-for-man-of-steel/

This is an analysis of Wicked's score. I chose Wicked because I knew this analysis existed, and I used Wicked as an example in my second post.
http://www.musicalwriters.com/musicals/s-z/wicked-1.htm

Notice how the Hans Zimmer analysis is full of conjecture and loose connections while the Schwartz analysis isn't? It's also worth mentioning that Schwartz uses modulations (key changes) to signify multitudes of things, but modulation is only mentioned once in the Zimmer analysis, and that's only to make it sound more sinister?

And really, if you want more convincing, just google it. His hackery is well documented.
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#15Urdnot_RuntPosted 5/30/2014 4:39:23 PM
I heard music from Deus Ex: DR before in a movie trailer. I forgot what, though
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#16Ryan-06Posted 5/30/2014 5:39:13 PM
ok mozart. move on.
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#17ChrisZewskiPosted 5/30/2014 6:07:56 PM(edited)
Urdnot_Runt posted...
I heard music from Deus Ex: DR before in a movie trailer. I forgot what, though


After Earth or something like that. Will and Jaden smith IIRC.

EDIT: Here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHB-49300l0
#18Ryan-06Posted 5/30/2014 6:15:28 PM(edited)
That movie.... SUCKED lol.

M knight Shyamalan movie. Defer to this review.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/after-earth-review-a-father-and-son-battle-predictability-in-the-future/
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#19ChrisZewskiPosted 5/30/2014 11:54:30 PM
Yeah i didn't hear many good things about it.

If i'm gonna watch an "After Earth" it's gotta be of the Titan variety.

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#20xGenocidestPosted 5/31/2014 12:08:19 AM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc&feature=kp

Carl Sagan for team mate in ME4.
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