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#1TooCrucialPosted 2/27/2012 9:50:00 PM
Is the emp soo easy to get but is one of the best killstreaks in the game? They need to raise it higher. It can distrupt a teams momentum real quick, no crosshairs, Scopes dont work, no radar, no use of kill streaks for those who dont use specialist, no lauchers that need lock on. But I see players go like 10 and 30 and get them(points from objectives, assists, and blowing up stuff).

And why dont they change dead mans hand soo that if I finish you off before you can manually detonate it then it doesnt blow?

why do I just get the assist if the guy goes into last stand and my teammate comes out of nowhere and finished him with one shot or a flashbang?
#2Bizzy_GPosted 2/27/2012 9:53:18 PM
TooCrucial posted...
Is the emp soo easy to get but is one of the best killstreaks in the game? They need to raise it higher. It can distrupt a teams momentum real quick, no crosshairs, Scopes dont work, no radar, no use of kill streaks for those who dont use specialist, no lauchers that need lock on. But I see players go like 10 and 30 and get them(points from objectives, assists, and blowing up stuff).

And why dont they change dead mans hand soo that if I finish you off before you can manually detonate it then it doesnt blow?

why do I just get the assist if the guy goes into last stand and my teammate comes out of nowhere and finished him with one shot or a flashbang?


I actually aim better when EMP'd. Assassin Pro counters the no radar. Support helps the really bad players feel like they are making an impact. Can't blame them though.
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#3Gilgamesh2010Posted 2/28/2012 1:43:50 AM
Because assassin pro counters every single effect except the ability to call in kill streaks, and nearly everyone runs assassin pro.
#4unceramoniusPosted 2/28/2012 2:13:10 AM
^^^^^^^^ stop spamming uavs.......portable radars and hbs

watch less assassin use
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#5TooBigToFlushPosted 2/28/2012 2:20:55 AM
TooCrucial posted...
why do I just get the assist if the guy goes into last stand and my teammate comes out of nowhere and finished him with one shot or a flashbang?

Disagree with everything you whine about except this, really annoying.
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#6Zetsuei_8823Posted 2/28/2012 2:24:22 AM(edited)
unceramonius posted...
^^^^^^^^ stop spamming uavs.......portable radars and hbs

watch less assassin use


Assassin use won't go down. People rely on it too heavily for the other several things it counters.
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#7Miz_iZ_AwSOme_XPosted 2/28/2012 2:27:22 AM
That's why I rely on iron sights. I don't need rds or holo
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#8uberrpinnylahrlPosted 2/28/2012 2:44:16 AM

@Zetsuei, thats because the things it counters are nearly all cheap, very cheap -everything in the support package is cheap. This is the problem, not Assassin. -HBS, Portable Radar and (to a far lesser extent, Thermal) shouldn't be in the game Get rid of that, move UAV to a 5 KS, CUAV to a 6 KS, AUAV (shows assassin users) to a 12 KS, and EMP to an 18 KS (effects Asasssin), and there you go, far less Assassin spam. Really it should only give no red name and no appearing on the UAV, but with all the other cheap crap they put in the game, it needs to be there, unless you know, you like going up against someone with HBS, portable radar (a UAV up), who you can't even get close to without having to use 3 specific perks. @OP: Yes, No - remove it entirely, pump action shotties are still gimped....as for your last point, last stand shouldn't exist in the first place.

#9Zetsuei_8823Posted 2/28/2012 3:31:45 AM
The problem seem more in that the 2nd tier itself is pretty... bland. The only other one I'd run is probably Hardline, and even then, I end up being swarmed and "forced" to switch to an Assassin class to live past 10 seconds.

The HBS is weaker this time around; the sweep is horribly slow. It's more a gimp than anything. It's never proven a problem. Thermal, eh, can't say much on it. Portable radar, now here, I will agree a tad bit. There's already enough "your enemy is here" stuff.

Assault UAV should be removed. I see no reason why it should be there. Stealth Bomber should go to Assault. How much needed to get the UAV... is alright I guess. Only because we already have 3 other 5-PS as is. CUAV, AUAV, and EMP not effecting Assassin is just ridiculous. You can argue "oh but it iz just support and support iz ez to get lolol", but that's not the point. Assassin has just too much going for it, that picking any other 2nd tier perk is too risky.

Honestly, as much as I hate to say it, Assassin is... well... cheap. Only because it has a paragraph of things it counters, and there's no oher perk to compete with it in the 2nd slot. Imo, Quickdraw stuff should be on SoH, and Jugg or SP should an available choice. But of course, this is all my opinion, and it's likely to get... certain people... riled up in saying it's not the perk's fault, yadda yadda...
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#10uberrpinnylahrlPosted 2/28/2012 3:53:54 AM

Exactly, you are nearly forced to switch to assassin in the majority of games, and thats not assassin's faults, its how easy it is to spam UAV. That is the bulk of the problem IMO.

The HBS is still a very cheap attachment, you won't be able to find a good use for it, but when you are camping....oh look red dot, and there is an easy kill for them. They have the vantage point and the knowledge that you are coming, which is incredibly cheap. Not to mention if a UAV is up or if they have a portable radar. 

Assault should be the only killstreak package (meaning that specialist would also exist). You should NOT be rewarded for not pulling together a streak at all. You want to run higher killstreaks? High risk, high reward. Lower killstreaks/risk? Lower reward. How the hell does support make any sense? 0 Risk, and you can get a juggernaut? an EMP? An escort air drop, which I swear to god always has at least  a jugg/pavelow/osprey/ac130.

I don't really see how you can call Assassin is cheap, when you yourself just said you feel forced to use it, its the support package and stuff that is cheap...why do you think Assassin is the problem, when it is so damn clear, that the support package and HBS/portable radar is the problem. I am repeating myself so maybe it can get into your head...Hardline is perfectly fine at the moment, throw your flashes at popular routes, get 3 kills, you will easily rack up 2 assists in that time, and oh hey look a predator already, pair it with Recon Pro, and you willl have killstreak after killstreak after killstreak. Quick draw is the only 2nd tier perk which gives you quite a large advantage in actual gun combat. Overkill is overkill, it does what its supposed to do. Blast shield needs a buff, and concussion/flashes need to be nerfed too.

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