Ive got an age old question about Rare.

#51BendilinPosted 8/9/2011 12:01:19 AM
mkbk posted...
Why are you fighting so hard to assert that Microsoft is some greedhog?

Because they are?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft

And that list doesn't even include BS, such as Microsoft knowingly selling gamers a fault product which they would "only fix/update parts as they started to widely fail."

http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Insider+Xbox+360+Team+Knowingly+Launched+Faulty+Hardware/article10434.htm

THEY DELIBERATELY LAUNCHED THE 360 KNOWING IT WAS A FAULTY PRODUCT THAT WAS DESTINED TO FAIL, AND USED THEIR CUSTOMERS AS GUINEA PIGS TO TEST THE PRODUCT FOR THEM.
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#52mahgah91Posted 8/9/2011 12:19:55 AM
This is the norm of corporate culture. If you actually study all the corporations out there, Microsoft is pretty tame in the BS they do.

It's a business norm where the bigger a company gets the more about money they get. Look at Blizzard and BioWare. Two game companies that are widely known for creating amazing games. Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect, Warcraft, Starcraft, Diablo, etc. Back then with BioWare creating this enormous, immersive RPG Baldur's Gate and Blizzard creating Warcraft 2, Starcraft and Diablo II as a forerunner on online gaming (stable servers provided free) have become what we can describe as money-grubbers.

Blizzard is implementing Real Money Transactions into all their games. Premium custom maps will be created in Starcraft II, a real money Auction House in Diablo III and World of Warcraft has expensive services and a store for aesthetic items. BioWare's getting into the "yearly releases" business and sells overpriced DLC. Dragon Age II was compromised to allow for a speedier release.

Beloved underdogs have become financial giants and money-based decisions are apparent in both companies all the time. It's the business world. You're trying to assert that Microsoft has a hostile reason for not selling Rare's IPs, which simply isn't true.
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#53SexPantherPandaPosted 8/9/2011 2:49:32 AM
Loved grabbed by the goulies it was the last game by rare that felt like a rare game.
#54niels200683Posted 8/9/2011 3:19:30 AM
In the words of Ren: You stupid, bloated... eeediots!
Not many people on this topic know what they are talking about.

If you really want some information on the history of rare & DKC, get back issues of retro gamer:

# 83 and #84:

https://www.imagineshop.co.uk/retrogamer/?magID=11
http://www.retrogamer.net/back_issues.php

Much more informative than the mis-informed stories posted above.

(Wikipedia is not on my top 10 trusted sources list either)
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#55deathsaber79Posted 8/9/2011 7:29:23 AM
Face it, Rare is for all intents and purposes, dead.

They were great, but Microsoft bought them, hoping them to be a AAA studio, but then they coudln't get anything out for Xbox other than Grabbed by the Ghoulies which was panned, and a conker remake.

Perfect Dark Zero was kind of meh and greatly overshadowed by Call of Duty 2 after being in development forever, no one cared about Viva Pinata, and utterly failed with Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts, which wasn't even a proper Banjo Kazooie game. The original creators left, and now they are are basically just "Rare" by name now and a Microsoft "yes man" company that created their Xbox live "Avatar" system, and now the Kinect sports games.
#56strongo9Posted 8/9/2011 8:09:07 AM(edited)
Rare as a develop sucks these days. It's sad that their IPs have been neglected and Microsoft discontinued the franchises. I wish Nintendo would buy back the rights to Banjo Kazooie, Conker, and Jet Force Gemini.

YAMI_ANUBIS_X posted...
Out of all the console companies, MS is the most powerful, Sony is the 2nd most powerful due to them being the biggest electronic company in the world, MS is the biggest software company in the world, Nintendo is a videogame company.

Where are pulling that BS statement about Sony being the largest hardware company in the world from? As of Sony was the 22nd largest hardware company in the world. Since than Sony has dropped even lower on the list and Nintendo has surpassed it as a larger hardware company. Nintendo's a bigger company than you think. They're one of the top five software developers on the world and one of the top 20 hardware developers in the world.
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#57dr_zombergPosted 8/9/2011 10:16:18 AM
Bendilin posted...
dr_zomberg posted...
my "plausible" solution for the rare exemployees that worked there in the nintendo era, would be to start their own company

They DID.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Radical_Design


AND become a nintendo second party developer.
i knew about FR but my point was all you didnt quot
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#58strongo9Posted 8/9/2011 10:22:27 AM
^They did not become 2nd party devs after being formed. They developed multiplats. Then they got snatched up by Crytek.
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#59dr_zombergPosted 8/9/2011 10:28:31 AM
did you even read my original post?
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#60mahgah91Posted 8/9/2011 10:46:44 AM
dr_zomberg posted...
did you even read my original post?

It's stupidly selfish to want them to be Nintendo-exclusive. What do you gain from that? The Timesplitter games were amazing. Everyone deserved to experience them no matter what platform they had.
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