Has the screen scratching issue been fixed?

#11stargazer64Posted 11/1/2012 11:41:59 AM
kissdadookie posted...
stargazer64 posted...
@ Dookie

When I first got it. As in, when I took it out of the box and played it for the second time after shutting it.

The bumpers on the original weren't long enough. And they would bend if too much pressure was applied to them. The XL doesn't have this problem.


Again, did your original unit scratch? If it did, then treat and store the XL THE SAME EXACT WAY and see if it scratches or not. Don't come on here throwing around your assumptions about what's going on as if it's the actual cause.

IF your original suffered from self scratching AND you have a XL, TREAT AND STORE THE XL THE SAME EXACT WAY AS YOU DID WITH THE ORIGINAL. If it doesn't scratch, then there is your definitive answer, that the XL is improved, if it does scratch, that tells you the same damn common sense I've been trying to explain here.


No, my original did not scratch. Because I extended the bumpers when I noticed the problem and did some research online.

Don't come on here throwing around idiotic assumptions because you can't figure out the difference between the way the bumpers are positioned on the XL.
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#12JoeHigashi2000Posted 11/1/2012 11:41:59 AM
kissdadookie posted...
FenderMaster posted...

it's not a defect/unintended issue with the hardware design?

Ah, so Nintendo always intended for the 3DS to close in such a way that it scratched itself?
An unavoidable consequence of clamshell design you say? Well my DS Lite and GBA say otherwise, but what do i know?

a simple remedy would be to insert slightly longer rubber supports on the top screen so that it isn't in direct contact with the hard plastic projecting from the botoom, or to not have the bottom screen project out so much...


No, they didn't intend for people to jam these things in tight pockets with crumbs and what not in there. Under normal use and storage, the systems don't scratch themselves. Why do you think some people find this a problem and some don't? Because not everybody are stupid enough to jam these things into tight pockets or tight spaces with blatant disregard with dust and debris in them (have you folks checked your pockets recently? LOTS of crud builds up in there).

stargazer64 posted...

Nope, not at all. When I first got my 3DS you could tell that the bottom raised lip of the touch screen was contacting the top screen. Since it was leaving lines on the screen.

Does that problem exist on the XL? No.


If you had that problem with the original, why don't you carry the XL the SAME EXACT WAY as you did for the original and report back after two months?

JoeHigashi2000 posted...


My GB, GBC, and GBA also say otherwise. I have seen scratching on a GBA SP from dust on the control pad half but not so much the screen.


That's because of the sizes of the screens. The 3DS has a very wide screen. It also has just one panel of glossy top screen cover. The GB's had a screen area that weren't anywhere as wide thus less surface area for it to rub against the controls.


The whole point of my post was to point out that we were talking about clamshell design handhelds...
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#13kissdadookiePosted 11/1/2012 11:42:27 AM
FenderMaster posted...
kissdadookie posted...


No, they didn't intend for people to jam these things in tight pockets with crumbs and what not in there. Under normal use and storage, the systems don't scratch themselves. Why do you think some people find this a problem and some don't? Because not everybody are stupid enough to jam these things into tight pockets or tight spaces with blatant disregard with dust and debris in them (have you folks checked your pockets recently? LOTS of crud builds up in there).


I see... So it's the lint and biscuit crumbs in my pockets that are causing large vertical scratches to occur on the top screen in the exacts same position where the raised plastic of the bottom screen meets the top screen while closed.

Logic and reason win again!


Yes, because if you have bits of debris on the raised areas, guess what happens? The raised areas WITH the crud sitting on it, comes in contact with the screen. It is great logic, actually, it's called common sense. Apparently, for some folks, like yourself, you just think common sense is just some sort of fictitious thing that gets thrown around.

So yes, logic and reason does win again, seeing how you have completely failed at using logic and reasoning skills.
#14AwesomeOSaucePosted 11/1/2012 11:43:30 AM
nope Nintendo seems to love making faulty hardware recently...
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#15FenderMasterPosted 11/1/2012 11:43:43 AM
And I do use a case. the case itself is officially licensed and somewhat tight, and i've still seen scratches on my white 3DS I bought in January

And even so, it's a f***ing handheld, my GBA and DS could go in my pocket fine, never had any issues since as portable systems, they should be capable of being closed and inserted in a pocket without self harming. Keep defending Nintendo and their inadequately short rubber bumpers seperating the screens though! It makes you look smart ; )
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#16kissdadookiePosted 11/1/2012 11:43:53 AM
JoeHigashi2000 posted...
kissdadookie posted...
FenderMaster posted...

it's not a defect/unintended issue with the hardware design?

Ah, so Nintendo always intended for the 3DS to close in such a way that it scratched itself?
An unavoidable consequence of clamshell design you say? Well my DS Lite and GBA say otherwise, but what do i know?

a simple remedy would be to insert slightly longer rubber supports on the top screen so that it isn't in direct contact with the hard plastic projecting from the botoom, or to not have the bottom screen project out so much...


No, they didn't intend for people to jam these things in tight pockets with crumbs and what not in there. Under normal use and storage, the systems don't scratch themselves. Why do you think some people find this a problem and some don't? Because not everybody are stupid enough to jam these things into tight pockets or tight spaces with blatant disregard with dust and debris in them (have you folks checked your pockets recently? LOTS of crud builds up in there).

stargazer64 posted...

Nope, not at all. When I first got my 3DS you could tell that the bottom raised lip of the touch screen was contacting the top screen. Since it was leaving lines on the screen.

Does that problem exist on the XL? No.


If you had that problem with the original, why don't you carry the XL the SAME EXACT WAY as you did for the original and report back after two months?

JoeHigashi2000 posted...


My GB, GBC, and GBA also say otherwise. I have seen scratching on a GBA SP from dust on the control pad half but not so much the screen.


That's because of the sizes of the screens. The 3DS has a very wide screen. It also has just one panel of glossy top screen cover. The GB's had a screen area that weren't anywhere as wide thus less surface area for it to rub against the controls.


The whole point of my post was to point out that we were talking about clamshell design handhelds...


Not all of them are made the same. Some are more exposed such as the 3DS due to how wide that glossy screen is. It's all about surface area and what surface is over what raised area.
#17kissdadookiePosted 11/1/2012 11:45:41 AM
stargazer64 posted...
kissdadookie posted...
stargazer64 posted...
@ Dookie

When I first got it. As in, when I took it out of the box and played it for the second time after shutting it.

The bumpers on the original weren't long enough. And they would bend if too much pressure was applied to them. The XL doesn't have this problem.


Again, did your original unit scratch? If it did, then treat and store the XL THE SAME EXACT WAY and see if it scratches or not. Don't come on here throwing around your assumptions about what's going on as if it's the actual cause.

IF your original suffered from self scratching AND you have a XL, TREAT AND STORE THE XL THE SAME EXACT WAY AS YOU DID WITH THE ORIGINAL. If it doesn't scratch, then there is your definitive answer, that the XL is improved, if it does scratch, that tells you the same damn common sense I've been trying to explain here.


No, my original did not scratch. Because I extended the bumpers when I noticed the problem and did some research online.

Don't come on here throwing around idiotic assumptions because you can't figure out the difference between the way the bumpers are positioned on the XL.


So basically, you ASSUMED that the bumpers were the problem and then extended the bumpers and ASSUMED that your bumpers hack job is the savior of your system. So essentially, you're using a bunch of nonsense assumptions without actual real testing. Yet you are on here arguing with me on something that you've clearly haven't really had experience with?

I have THREE original 3DS systems, NONE of them have been altered. NONE of them have self scratching. Man, must be those faulty bumpers, keeping that top screen all pristine and what not.
#18Baha05Posted 11/1/2012 11:47:31 AM
To answer TC's problem the issue really has varied, even in the early 3DS models we never gotten a estimate on the rate of defects in screen scratching. Newer 3DS and XLs might have the issue minimized to a degree.

Also using your warranty on your system will just get your system repaired as the actual screen is behind I want to say a plastic film (It's not film it's more a cover) so that'll get replaced and you can mention maybe raise the bumpers but you are better off also getting cheap screen protectors as that will protect the system and rubber bumpers will solve the issue a bit more.
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#19kissdadookiePosted 11/1/2012 11:48:10 AM
FenderMaster posted...
And I do use a case. the case itself is officially licensed and somewhat tight, and i've still seen scratches on my white 3DS I bought in January

And even so, it's a f***ing handheld, my GBA and DS could go in my pocket fine, never had any issues since as portable systems, they should be capable of being closed and inserted in a pocket without self harming. Keep defending Nintendo and their inadequately short rubber bumpers seperating the screens though! It makes you look smart ; )


It's a BIG system in comparison. Your argument would hold true if the form factor stayed exactly the same, but it hasn't.

Also, notice how you've stated that you have the 3DS in a TIGHT case. I ALWAYS recommend people to use a NONE tight hardshell case. There's a reason for this, so that no pressure would be applied to the system thus no self scratching. I use the officially license Hori hard case. I have 3 of these cases for 3 of my 3DS systems, NO SCRATCHES at all on my units AND I toss them into my bag frequently.
#20kissdadookiePosted 11/1/2012 11:49:51 AM
Baha05 posted...
To answer TC's problem the issue really has varied, even in the early 3DS models we never gotten a estimate on the rate of defects in screen scratching. Newer 3DS and XLs might have the issue minimized to a degree.

Also using your warranty on your system will just get your system repaired as the actual screen is behind I want to say a plastic film (It's not film it's more a cover) so that'll get replaced and you can mention maybe raise the bumpers but you are better off also getting cheap screen protectors as that will protect the system and rubber bumpers will solve the issue a bit more.


It's varied because not everyone was idiotic enough to figure that such a large system is a good idea to jam into tight pockets or backpacks with a bunch of junk tumbling around with it. I've pointed this out earlier. Common sense people, common sense.