SMYIV is not persona.

#61Sol_ClydePosted 11/28/2012 9:55:21 PM
aak57 posted...
I think Persona has become a bigger name. And since P3 and P4 were called SMT Persona, they probably just assumed it's all the same thing.


Persona 1 was already called 'Shin Megami Tensei: Persona".

In fact it's only since P3 that the Persona series DISTANCED themselves more from the real SMT. I mean, 'Shadows' instead of demons, what the hell?
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#62Nickcool1996Posted 11/28/2012 10:03:38 PM(edited)
Sol_Clyde posted...
aak57 posted...
I think Persona has become a bigger name. And since P3 and P4 were called SMT Persona, they probably just assumed it's all the same thing.


Persona 1 was already called 'Shin Megami Tensei: Persona".

In fact it's only since P3 that the Persona series DISTANCED themselves more from the real SMT. I mean, 'Shadows' instead of demons, what the hell?


Persona 1 was called "Persona" here or "Revelations: Persona" in Japan when it was first released. This was changed with the PSP "make it like Persona 3" Port...er...Remake.

Yeah, P1 and P2 were retellings of Megami Tensei with the school setting and demons. P3 was where it just changed...
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#63Sir_HaxorPosted 11/29/2012 10:39:11 AM
Isn't it speculated that Aleph is Hijiri in Nocturne? Wouldn't that coincide with the timelines? But SMt2 takes place during 2060 if I remember correctly. That would mean that Aleph was reborn in the past and during an alternate timeline, which doesn't match up with YHVH's punishment ( I believe he was to be reincarnated in the future only ). Is Aleph now Naoya as well? That doesn't make sense either. Seems like a certain dictating god has a thing for reincarnation torture.
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#64ljobenzaPosted 11/29/2012 11:22:45 AM
Persona is a spinoff of SMT therefore it's part of the SMT series. I don't see how that couldn't be anymore clear.
#65shampoowarriorPosted 11/29/2012 12:13:50 PM
videogamefan65 posted...
Question: is Persona 1 anything close to mainline SMT? I've played that, and it's alright.


Pretty much.
1st person dungeon crawls, contact system for acquiring demons or items.

Main difference is mainline generally has a darker story and demons as party members instead of / in addition to human party members.
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#66MetalLoki(Topic Creator)Posted 11/29/2012 12:19:54 PM
ljobenza posted...
Persona is a spinoff of SMT therefore it's part of the SMT series. I don't see how that couldn't be anymore clear.


Yeah we get that but that doesn't make SMTIV a persona game.
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#67shampoowarriorPosted 11/29/2012 12:23:51 PM(edited)
Nickcool1996 posted...
Buttery_Toast posted...
Wait, wait. Isn't SMT a spinoff itself?

Like, the main series is Megami Tensei, but then they spinned off to Shin Megami Tensei, then to Devil Summoner, then Persona, then Digital Devil Saga, then Devil Survivor.

So really, Devil Survivor 2 should have been titled Megami Tensei: Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Persona: Digital Devil Saga: Devil Survivor 2. :P


This is true and not true.

Megami Tensei is the original (books later adapted to a game).

Shin Megami Tensei took what Megami Tensei had and made a loosely-based series off of it (kept demons and battle system), which is why it is "True" Megami Tensei.

Persona is a retelling of Megami Tensei.

Devil Summoner creates the Persona and SMT universes.

Everything else isn't really important, as they are true spinoffs.


My understanding is that the series is that a lot of Japanese titles were getting a "Shin" in front of them on the SNES. Not necessarily anything special to SMT.

And Persona has absolutely nothing to do with the books, as far as I remember. The first book has something to do with a dude who uses his school computer to host a demon summoning program.
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#68MetalLoki(Topic Creator)Posted 11/29/2012 12:27:41 PM
Here is the MT ova if you want to compare.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pSY6a8gRHgI
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