I'm amazed that there's anyone who thinks that CoD is more milked than Pokemon.

#21ZBug_Posted 1/14/2013 1:02:53 AM
Wait let me see here, going off of the dates you listed TC:
1st gen in 99
2nd gen was 3 years later
Then 3rd was... Oh, 3 years again
And then 4th was 4 years!
Then 5th gen was 4 more years!
And finally 6th gen was 3 years again.
Yep this series is milked SOOOO much more then CoD, which has a main stream release every single year.
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#22Vyers(Topic Creator)Posted 1/14/2013 1:06:55 AM
Ruby and Sapphire was designed in such a way that was meant to sell FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald, by reducing the number of Pokémon that you can capture. Hell, the very design of Pokémon lends itself to encouraging people to purchase multiple copies (though that was reduced with online, it still exists). There are Pokémon toys, there are Pokémon consoles and handhelds, there are Pokémon candies, Pokémon movies (more than a dozen), one of the longest-running animes I've noticed, a massive trading card game (a medium that encourages purchasing more and more to be competitive - basically the same as the DLC that Nintendo fans so bemoan); you have to go to retailer or Nintendo events to get some Pokémon; there are six versions of R/B, five versions of G/S; Pokémon clothing; Halloween costumes; comics; novels; school supplies; you name it. You're looking at a very narrow picture of "milked" - a picture that is not even nearly cut-and-dry in favour of Pokémon. Having a ton of spin-offs, regardless of quality or unique design, contributes to milking just fine.
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#23Vyers(Topic Creator)Posted 1/14/2013 1:09:57 AM
ZBug_ posted...
Wait let me see here, going off of the dates you listed TC:
1st gen in 99
2nd gen was 3 years later
Then 3rd was... Oh, 3 years again
And then 4th was 4 years!
Then 5th gen was 4 more years!
And finally 6th gen was 3 years again.
Yep this series is milked SOOOO much more then CoD, which has a main stream release every single year.


And they fill those gaps with remakes. Are you implying that taking something that already exists and repackaging it is not a problem?

Also I do enjoy watching people not even attempt to A. do math, or B. check their facts.

Gen 1 is '96. Gen 2 is '99. Gen 3 is '02. Gen 4 is '06. Gen 5 is '10. Gen 6 is '13.

Yes, three year gaps between generations. Between the introduction to the generations. Guess what happens in between these introductions?

Yellow and Blue happened in between generations. Crystal happened between generations. FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald happened between generations. HeartGold, SoulSilver, and Platinum happened between generations. Black 2 and White 2 happened between generations. Please stop looking at, exclusively, the information that makes Pokémon seem like a franchise that isn't milked as company policy.
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#24Vyers(Topic Creator)Posted 1/14/2013 1:11:31 AM
Buretsu posted...
Vyers posted...
Catcher_Freeman posted...
From: Buretsu | #013
At least the Pokemon Spinoffs all have different methods of gameplay.


This.

While every CoD game is an FPS.


So you are prepared with an explanation as to why CoD needs to be something other than an FPS?


Because it's boring as **** and shows a complete lack of creativity.

Heck, Gearbox even turned down making a Call of Duty game because "there would be no significant challenge".


Because making Tony Hawk an adventure game, and then an accessory game, didn't kill the franchise.

CoD's fanbase wants FPS games. They are there because they regard CoD as the best franchise to fulfill their needs.
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#25BuretsuPosted 1/14/2013 1:14:21 AM
Vyers posted...
Ruby and Sapphire was designed in such a way that was meant to sell FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald, by reducing the number of Pokémon that you can capture. Hell, the very design of Pokémon lends itself to encouraging people to purchase multiple copies (though that was reduced with online, it still exists). There are Pokémon toys, there are Pokémon consoles and handhelds, there are Pokémon candies, Pokémon movies (more than a dozen), one of the longest-running animes I've noticed, a massive trading card game (a medium that encourages purchasing more and more to be competitive - basically the same as the DLC that Nintendo fans so bemoan); you have to go to retailer or Nintendo events to get some Pokémon; there are six versions of R/B, five versions of G/S; Pokémon clothing; Halloween costumes; comics; novels; school supplies; you name it. You're looking at a very narrow picture of "milked" - a picture that is not even nearly cut-and-dry in favour of Pokémon. Having a ton of spin-offs, regardless of quality or unique design, contributes to milking just fine.


I'm sure that if Call of Duty wasn't a generic FPS with no substance to it whatsoever, nor any remarkable features that set it apart from the other titles in its bland, repetitive genre, then it might be able to reach some level of popularity outside of drunken frat boys, and a movie made from the franchise wouldn't be indistinguishable from any of a dozen non-branded movies with the same genre and themes.
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#26Vyers(Topic Creator)Posted 1/14/2013 1:15:26 AM
Buretsu posted...
Vyers posted...
Ruby and Sapphire was designed in such a way that was meant to sell FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald, by reducing the number of Pokémon that you can capture. Hell, the very design of Pokémon lends itself to encouraging people to purchase multiple copies (though that was reduced with online, it still exists). There are Pokémon toys, there are Pokémon consoles and handhelds, there are Pokémon candies, Pokémon movies (more than a dozen), one of the longest-running animes I've noticed, a massive trading card game (a medium that encourages purchasing more and more to be competitive - basically the same as the DLC that Nintendo fans so bemoan); you have to go to retailer or Nintendo events to get some Pokémon; there are six versions of R/B, five versions of G/S; Pokémon clothing; Halloween costumes; comics; novels; school supplies; you name it. You're looking at a very narrow picture of "milked" - a picture that is not even nearly cut-and-dry in favour of Pokémon. Having a ton of spin-offs, regardless of quality or unique design, contributes to milking just fine.


I'm sure that if Call of Duty wasn't a generic FPS with no substance to it whatsoever, nor any remarkable features that set it apart from the other titles in its bland, repetitive genre, then it might be able to reach some level of popularity outside of drunken frat boys, and a movie made from the franchise wouldn't be indistinguishable from any of a dozen non-branded movies with the same genre and themes.


You know, you've got a point - at least on the demographic. It's kind of like how the average Pokémon player can't use silverware.
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#27BuretsuPosted 1/14/2013 1:17:02 AM
Vyers posted...
You know, you've got a point - at least on the demographic. It's kind of like how the average Pokémon player can't use silverware.


The average Call of Duty player doesn't know what silverware is, and just eats pizza over the sink, washing it down with a couple of cold beers before returning to call someone else a "n******" because they're total campers, brah.
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#28Vyers(Topic Creator)Posted 1/14/2013 1:19:33 AM
Oh, and I have a question.

Is it milking that there are three Ranger games? That there are nine Mystery Dungeon games? That there are six Stadium-style games (the last one being a very poorly-made battle simulation game with no merit on its own), two Pinball games, two TCG games, two cruddy Pikachu raising games (not even counting the fad-inspired pocket pet toys), Pokémon Puzzle reskins of Panel de Pon, two PokéPark games (neither of which got good reviews), or two Rumble games (same)?
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#29Vyers(Topic Creator)Posted 1/14/2013 1:20:32 AM
Buretsu posted...
Vyers posted...
You know, you've got a point - at least on the demographic. It's kind of like how the average Pokémon player can't use silverware.


The average Call of Duty player doesn't know what silverware is, and just eats pizza over the sink, washing it down with a couple of cold beers before returning to call someone else a "n******" because they're total campers, brah.


At least the average CoD player eats like that out of choice, rather than poor motor functions. Amazing how the Pokémon fanbase can play without dipping in their spaghetti.
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#30Fr33zPosted 1/14/2013 1:21:16 AM
Vyers posted...
Oh, and I have a question.

Is it milking that there are three Ranger games? That there are nine Mystery Dungeon games? That there are six Stadium-style games (the last one being a very poorly-made battle simulation game with no merit on its own), two Pinball games, two TCG games, two cruddy Pikachu raising games (not even counting the fad-inspired pocket pet toys), Pokémon Puzzle reskins of Panel de Pon, two PokéPark games (neither of which got good reviews), or two Rumble games (same)?


again refer to my comment on page 2
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