How is the Golden Sun series?

#41MilenninPosted 1/24/2013 9:39:24 AM
Played the second game the most, and love it, one of my favourite RPGs. The first game is good, too, and it's connected to the 2nd game. Haven't played the third game.
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#42DrgonbxcrossPosted 1/24/2013 12:20:36 PM
Just because the 3rd one was good doesn't make the others amazing.


The stories were always poorly written.

The battles were always easy.


What degree is irrelevant. Golden sun has always been a RPG with a lot of potential and average execution.
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#43Delirious_BeardPosted 1/24/2013 4:57:56 PM
And you attempted to refute my points essentially by saying "Look at the scores!" And you call me a bad poster.

The story in all the games IS bad. There's no denying that. Awful writing, awful characterization, zero development, terrible villains, atrocious pacing. Put up a checklist for "bad storytelling" and Golden Sun can check off just about every one. For a much more detailed analysis into the series' story, see http://lparchive.org/Golden-Sun/ (or just the "Fixing Golden Sun" segments if you want to see how simple it would be to override Camelot's awful writing)

The battles have always been easy. ALWAYS. Maybe they were even easier in DD, but that doesn't mean the first 2 were difficult in any way. Summon rushing, broken unleashes, both of these completely broke the games' difficulty.

I'll level with you on the puzzles. Although none of them are really that difficult to begin with.
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#44WestbrickIIIPosted 1/24/2013 5:30:27 PM
Golden Sun is an honest contender for worst jRPG series in video game history. Just about everything in the games are horrendous: the writing is verbose beyond belief and badly written, the characters are cardboard cut-outs, the story is as generic and bland as they come, there are dozens of major plot holes, the gameplay is bare-bones, the puzzles somehow manage to be both horribly uninspired and comically easy, and the graphical style is very love-or-hate. Music kicks ass though, which means the best way to enjoy the Golden Sun series is to listen to YouTube videos.

There's really no reason to waste your time with any of them, whether it's the DS travesty or the "much better" GBA titles. You have to understand the context in which they were released: the GBA was in its early years and didn't have an original RPG series, and when Golden Sun filled that void it became predictably overrated.
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#45teh1337gosuPosted 1/24/2013 5:33:50 PM
Lost Age is amazing.
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#46nintendoggerPosted 1/24/2013 5:39:04 PM
I played Golden Sun: Dark Dawn because I wanted to try something new. I can't say I'll ever play another Golden Sun game. :/
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#47WariofanaticPosted 1/24/2013 6:35:48 PM
Delirious_Beard posted...
And you attempted to refute my points essentially by saying "Look at the scores!" And you call me a bad poster.

The story in all the games IS bad. There's no denying that. Awful writing, awful characterization, zero development, terrible villains, atrocious pacing. Put up a checklist for "bad storytelling" and Golden Sun can check off just about every one. For a much more detailed analysis into the series' story, see http://lparchive.org/Golden-Sun/ (or just the "Fixing Golden Sun" segments if you want to see how simple it would be to override Camelot's awful writing)

The battles have always been easy. ALWAYS. Maybe they were even easier in DD, but that doesn't mean the first 2 were difficult in any way. Summon rushing, broken unleashes, both of these completely broke the games' difficulty.

I'll level with you on the puzzles. Although none of them are really that difficult to begin with.


To answer the bold part the first time I posted scores was to your simple response of "false" and was just showing that the majority of gamers thought the game was good. The second was to show that you're one of the few people that think the quality of the third game is on par with the first two.

For the rest that is honestly just your opinion. For its day and age I thought the first two were great and even when compared to today's RPG's they are still fun to play and are on par with some of the other "great" series such as FF. I myself prefer the games in the Dragon Quest series and know for a fact that Golden Sun doesn't come close to them, but honestly the games were not - with the exception of the third - that awful. While it is far from the best RPG series it is at least good enough so that I could honestly say that I enjoyed it.

The main point I'm trying to make is that the first two games were far above Dark Dawn with its extremely simplistic puzzles, pathetic battles, and story that is almost the same exact thing from the first two with the character all being the son or daughter of the previous hero's or protagonist. They had seven years to make a good sequel, and yet they somehow completely failed.
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#48WestbrickIIIPosted 1/24/2013 6:39:20 PM
Oh, is this conversation turning in the "All views are opinions and consequently can't be justified, argued for, or supplemented with evidence" direction? Unfortunate, but unsurprising from GS apologists.
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#49WariofanaticPosted 1/24/2013 6:45:45 PM
WestbrickIII posted...
Oh, is this conversation turning in the "All views are opinions and consequently can't be justified, argued for, or supplemented with evidence" direction? Unfortunate, but unsurprising from GS apologists.


So... in other words... you're just mad cause everyone doesn't hate the game like you do?
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#50Delirious_BeardPosted 1/24/2013 7:06:15 PM
Or maybe you cold refrain from calling people trolls and bad posters because they don't agree that your overrated RPG series is any good.
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