I'm not gonna lie, I'm getting sick of people complaining about Etrian Odyssey.

#121JP_SartrePosted 2/18/2013 6:37:27 AM
For those of us who've played Eye of the Beholder, SITD, Wizardry, etc. this is a NON- issue.
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#122SinfullyvannilaPosted 2/18/2013 7:48:30 AM(edited)
Devilman_Amon posted...
Exactly


I'll make this same argument for FPS games too aka "play as a gun game"

And why the hell do you move in grids?? WTF IS that? Who walks like that?
The Wizardry DS clip I linked shows just how stupid this genre is because that clip was not grid walking....it was actually smooth walking animation. Then they go BACK and make it grid walking for the PS3 version? Why the hell would they take a step back in design. You people are out of your minds.


Easier for the player to map, easier to determine when a "random" encounter pops up, easier to deal with maneuvering around FOEs, some abilities are based on "steps" in the grid.

Thats why I listed Demon's Souls/Dark Souls. because of the survival aspect ,it IS accomplishing the same goal of feeling like a roguelike.
Same with Dragon Quest VII 3DS when you enter the dungeons...and 7th Dragon 2020 and Sol Trigger...


WTF!? These games are pretty much the opposite of a roguelike. Aside from the non-focus on story and higher than average difficulty, the design parameters of these two kinds of games are at odds with each other. That's not the goal of these games at all.

Wizardry Online is not in First Person


It's also not a throwback. It's a spinoff in a new subgenre. MMOs pretty much need 3rd person views so you can see what your friends are doing.
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#123SinfullyvannilaPosted 2/18/2013 8:28:04 AM
Razieru posted...
All you high and mighty N Boys need to shut up whining about people ripping Etrian Odyssey's lazy


It's not lazy. Lazy would be trying to implement 3rd person party models and half-***ing it.

unrealistic,


So wait? Are you saying this is less realistic than seeing yourself in 3rd person? That would only be possible with an apparatus of floating mirrors.

and dumb graphical design.


How is it dumb? I think it's pretty smart. It's a decision that allows them to focus on other things than graphics, and have allowed them to sell 3 other games profitably. Compare that to so many other RPGs that have tried to emphasize graphics and performed poorly commercially.
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#124derwakePosted 2/18/2013 8:42:23 AM
I'm getting sick of people complaining about things. 3rd world countries don't have any of our luxuries. QQ
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#125darkqueenhelbaPosted 2/18/2013 10:58:52 AM
it makes me want to grab your 3DS, all of your fancy smanshy RPGs where you can see all of your characters, and shove them so far up your butt, that you will be pooping out your save files for 3 weeks straight.

Sorry, but that was funny. Regardless of what you think about the topic. lol
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#126Akira502002Posted 2/18/2013 11:31:22 AM
Its not like you have to go read the complaint topics, but I agree with them it is lame not being able to see your character. Deal breaker for me.
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#127Baha05Posted 2/18/2013 11:32:24 AM
Akira502002 posted...
Its not like you have to go read the complaint topics, but I agree with them it is lame not being able to see your character. Deal breaker for me.


Weak deal breaker is weak
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#128BatenKait0sPosted 2/18/2013 11:35:30 AM
Devilman_Amon posted...
Demon's/Dark Souls > everything

See your character in battle, and no cutesy moe loli crap or dated grid turtle movement.

heck even Wizardry for NDS looked better than EO IV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrJ-7cgLlog

no stuttering movement and actual feel of impending doom not feeling of cuteness...


Lol @ this.

Great games, but c'mon....they're not even top 25 material.
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