Why do so many people see this game as a let down?

#11SlargTheGnomePosted 11/24/2012 8:57:35 PM
Adamario_129 posted...
Miyamoto is great at gameplay. He hates stories, and, by his own admission, actively works to remove stories from Mario games.


Okay, WHERE did it say this? I'd like to know what exactly his reasoning behind this is.
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#12tilaroxsPosted 11/24/2012 8:57:59 PM
Chaosmaster00 posted...
ITT: A bunch of people who bought a game without doing their research first.

Seriously, if you guys did ANY looking up on a game at least a week in advance of it's release, you would have known exactly how the game was going to be, and NOT have "wasted your money", as you may believe. If you willingly purchase a game simply expecting a specific thing because of its title or the series prior, then it's only your fault for buying it.

No one forced you to spend your money unwillingly on a game you wouldn't have enjoyed, and there were TONS of reviews out for this game, including video reviews, where you get the chance to see actual gameplay (this is without mentioning the 34 minute video that's been released for who knows how long that showed a 34 minute video of a guy actually playing the game).

So, really, most of the people complaining are the people who saw the older pics from, like, 2 years ago and never looked back, holding their hopes on a pedestal because the truly believed that was going to be how it was gonna be released. Those who knew what they were getting and still bought it have really only themselves to blame for expecting more than what they got.


This. I never buy a game until I see gameplay vieeos, etc.
#13EvenSpoonierPosted 11/24/2012 9:04:34 PM
tilaroxs posted...
EvenSpoonier posted...
Because they wanted a reskin of TTYD, and that's not what this is.


Nope


Care to explain how the common complaints don't reduce to wanting a reskin of TTYD?
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#14Adamario_129Posted 11/24/2012 9:09:04 PM
Every RPG that has named NPCs is a ripoff of TTYD.
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#15Drizzy_DrizakePosted 11/24/2012 9:11:39 PM
From: SlargTheGnome | #011
Okay, WHERE did it say this? I'd like to know what exactly his reasoning behind this is.


All it said was that he wouldn't allow the use of original characters. Which I still don't think is an excuse for what they did. They said since they couldn't have original characters they decided not to worry about the plot. There is still plenty they could have done if they actually tried.
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#16tilaroxsPosted 11/24/2012 9:15:52 PM
EvenSpoonier posted...
tilaroxs posted...
EvenSpoonier posted...
Because they wanted a reskin of TTYD, and that's not what this is.


Nope


Care to explain how the common complaints don't reduce to wanting a reskin of TTYD?


Look it up yourself. I'm not explaining it for the 500th time.
#17SlargTheGnomePosted 11/24/2012 9:22:31 PM
Drizzy_Drizake posted...
From: SlargTheGnome | #011
Okay, WHERE did it say this? I'd like to know what exactly his reasoning behind this is.


All it said was that he wouldn't allow the use of original characters. Which I still don't think is an excuse for what they did. They said since they couldn't have original characters they decided not to worry about the plot. There is still plenty they could have done if they actually tried.


I still don't understand why he didn't want original characters. What's wrong with them, exactly? And why pick this game in the series to impose that rule?
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#18ExcaliburPosted 11/24/2012 9:51:28 PM
1. The game is short. I clocked in at about 15 hours, and that's with a completed museum and all the HP-Up Hearts.

2. There's no replay value at all. Even SPM had a Pit of 100 Trials. (Two, in fact. AND the Sammer Kingdom!)

3. One of the widely accepted best things about the Paper Mario series is the writing... which there is very little of here. Bowser doesn't even get a single line!

4. The music is mediocre at best. None of it is memorable, except the town theme (which is awful) and the Gooper Blooper fight.

5. The battle system is heavily neutered. This is the barest of bones it could ever possibly be without removing timed hits entirely. TTYD gave us many different ways to perform timed hits (holding the stick, button combos, etc.) and stylish moves, and SPM gave you just tons and tons of different ways to fight things. Everything here is a simple button press, and sometimes a button mash.

I don't hate on this game because it tried to be something new. I like new. I'm even one of the very few people that defend SPM. But this game is just... not great. It's bland, it's safe and padded and baby-proofed, and I really have no desire to play it again.

It's a lot like the New Super Mario Bros. games: Sure, it's fun, but there's no real substance to it, and once you beat it, there's no real drive to play it again. I replay PM64 because it's simple, yet deep fun, and places like Shy Guy's Toybox are a blast to play through. I replay TTYD because the writing is fantastic and I really like the characters and story. I replay SPM because the basic gameplay is fun, and you can always find a new way to play it. But with Sticker Star, there's no fun areas to revisit, no endearing characters or entertaining writing, and no ways to change how you play. It's just kinda... there.
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#19wiiking96Posted 11/24/2012 11:50:55 PM
EvenSpoonier posted...
tilaroxs posted...
EvenSpoonier posted...
Because they wanted a reskin of TTYD, and that's not what this is.


Nope


Care to explain how the common complaints don't reduce to wanting a reskin of TTYD?

That would assume that I want absolutely no innovations or change up in any gameplay areas. I want change, but the in the right areas; for the sake of general improvement or freshness. For example: If they wanted to drop recipes because they didn't want to focus so much on healing items, I would have been fine with that. Unfortunately, they took it a step further and drastically reduced your attack diversity.

Look at the topic I linked.
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#20ApolloJusticeAAPosted 11/25/2012 12:35:19 AM
Chaosmaster00 posted...
ITT: A bunch of people who bought a game without doing their research first.

Seriously, if you guys did ANY looking up on a game at least a week in advance of it's release, you would have known exactly how the game was going to be, and NOT have "wasted your money", as you may believe. If you willingly purchase a game simply expecting a specific thing because of its title or the series prior, then it's only your fault for buying it.

No one forced you to spend your money unwillingly on a game you wouldn't have enjoyed, and there were TONS of reviews out for this game, including video reviews, where you get the chance to see actual gameplay (this is without mentioning the 34 minute video that's been released for who knows how long that showed a 34 minute video of a guy actually playing the game).

So, really, most of the people complaining are the people who saw the older pics from, like, 2 years ago and never looked back, holding their hopes on a pedestal because the truly believed that was going to be how it was gonna be released. Those who knew what they were getting and still bought it have really only themselves to blame for expecting more than what they got.


All of this. To add people need to stop deeming only what they like as correct change or correct progression. This is nintendo they have a set demographic, an evolving style and a notoriously unpleased fanbase every game they make has to be researched cause it may or may not go in the direction people want
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