So, What's Everyone Complaining about for this Game, Now?

#1ThatGuyZPosted 12/2/2012 6:37:14 PM
I remember partners, EXP systems, items and the like. Now I've seen some posts about, "Nostalgia". Has anything else come up with the hatred/disappointment for this game?
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#2Crazy_tank51Posted 12/2/2012 6:41:56 PM
Miyamoto buchering a game he doesn't understand is the new thing.
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#3EvenSpoonierPosted 12/2/2012 6:44:03 PM
Everything goes back to being TTYD: it's the ultimate example used by all the whiners of what this game "should" have been. That only makes me more convinced that Miyamoto took exactly the right path: shutting down the people who have been wrecking gaming for far too long.
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#4SpunkySixPosted 12/2/2012 6:44:24 PM
Crazy_tank51 posted...
Miyamoto buchering a game he doesn't understand is the new thing.


And I'd like to point out that it's entirely true. I like this game, but he single-handedly caused it to be worse with his "suggestions".
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#5SpunkySixPosted 12/2/2012 6:47:40 PM
EvenSpoonier posted...
Everything goes back to being TTYD: it's the ultimate example used by all the whiners of what this game "should" have been. That only makes me more convinced that Miyamoto took exactly the right path: shutting down the people who have been wrecking gaming for far too long.


People don't want TTYD, they want a game with that level of quality, and since IS can't seem to innovate on a large scale without screwing up somehow, it's understandable that people want baby steps. Please though, keep on generalizing.
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#6ThatGuyZ(Topic Creator)Posted 12/2/2012 6:50:08 PM
Other than the actual problems the game has, what has been the general basis of sheer "Broken Fandom" by some users on this board, if I may ask?

You know, how the series is Ruined FOREVER, how Nintendo betrayed the fans, or how nothing will live up to TTYD?
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#7EvenSpoonierPosted 12/2/2012 6:53:49 PM
SpunkySix posted...
EvenSpoonier posted...
Everything goes back to being TTYD: it's the ultimate example used by all the whiners of what this game "should" have been. That only makes me more convinced that Miyamoto took exactly the right path: shutting down the people who have been wrecking gaming for far too long.


People don't want TTYD, they want a game with that level of quality...


And they have it. But it's not TTYD, so they whine, and I've pointed out just how they do it: every single way this game "should have" been different is always described as being the way TTYD did things, often mentioning TTYD by name.
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#8RainvainzPosted 12/2/2012 7:07:41 PM
EvenSpoonier posted...
SpunkySix posted...
EvenSpoonier posted...
Everything goes back to being TTYD: it's the ultimate example used by all the whiners of what this game "should" have been. That only makes me more convinced that Miyamoto took exactly the right path: shutting down the people who have been wrecking gaming for far too long.


People don't want TTYD, they want a game with that level of quality...


And they have it. But it's not TTYD, so they whine, and I've pointed out just how they do it: every single way this game "should have" been different is always described as being the way TTYD did things, often mentioning TTYD by name.


Well, to be fair, it happens with other popular series:

Every new Final Fantasy is compared to FF7 or the other older games.

Every new Silent Hill is compared to 2 and 3.

New Resident Evil games are bashed because they are not like the older ones.

OOT is practically the only benchmark for the new Zelda games to match.

I may have proven your point that these fans are the problem holding a series back, but I see nothing with comparing a new game in a series with the older games that set that standard.

Still, I do love this game! ^_^ I'm on 3-10 now and world 3 has been a fantastic world, my favorite so far. The 2nd world actually kept me interested, despite taking place in my least favorite game environment (desert bleh).
#9SpunkySixPosted 12/2/2012 7:12:41 PM
EvenSpoonier posted...
SpunkySix posted...
EvenSpoonier posted...
Everything goes back to being TTYD: it's the ultimate example used by all the whiners of what this game "should" have been. That only makes me more convinced that Miyamoto took exactly the right path: shutting down the people who have been wrecking gaming for far too long.


People don't want TTYD, they want a game with that level of quality...


And they have it. But it's not TTYD, so they whine, and I've pointed out just how they do it: every single way this game "should have" been different is always described as being the way TTYD did things, often mentioning TTYD by name.


No they don't have it. They mention TTYD because elements of it were done well that are not done well here. If anybody is whining without reason, it's you complaining about complaining with no evidence that this is as good as TTYD. Please explain how having mostly generic characters while TTYD doesn't is a step up and why people should be happy with it.
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#10ninji_Posted 12/3/2012 2:12:08 AM
SpunkySix posted...
EvenSpoonier posted...
SpunkySix posted...
EvenSpoonier posted...
Everything goes back to being TTYD: it's the ultimate example used by all the whiners of what this game "should" have been. That only makes me more convinced that Miyamoto took exactly the right path: shutting down the people who have been wrecking gaming for far too long.


People don't want TTYD, they want a game with that level of quality...


And they have it. But it's not TTYD, so they whine, and I've pointed out just how they do it: every single way this game "should have" been different is always described as being the way TTYD did things, often mentioning TTYD by name.


No they don't have it. They mention TTYD because elements of it were done well that are not done well here. If anybody is whining without reason, it's you complaining about complaining with no evidence that this is as good as TTYD. Please explain how having mostly generic characters while TTYD doesn't is a step up and why people should be happy with it.


this is where people will cry out 'omg take your rosy tinted nostalgia goggles off' Because they have no credible argument. I don't want a re-skinned TTYD. I want a new and interesting story using a similar battle mechanic with partners and a good RPG system as well.

They have done it 3 times before, and the game sold generally well. So I don't get why they weren't allowed to continue on that platform.
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