I was unhappy with Miyamoto long before this came out...

#31McmadnessV3Posted 3/5/2013 6:09:31 PM
wiiking96 posted...
McmadnessV3 posted...
wiiking96 posted...
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Besides Paper Mario 64 showed how little story matters as its plot was extremely simple. Seriously it basically has the same plot of sticker star only more wordy.

Paper Mario 64 wouldn't have been half the game it was if it didn't have it's story. It being simple doesn't mean it wasn't dense and found during every part of the game. Why did Goombario, Kooper, Bombette, Parakarry, Bow, and Sushi join you on your quest? Story reasons. Every chapter had some gameplay that was urged on by a story there. Do you honestly think Paper Mario would be anywhere as well remembered if it didn't have the Peach segments where you got to see insights in not only her character, but Bowser's?

You may not value story and Mario games, but don't act like it doesn't matter to the quality of a game for a lot of people.


Oh please. The game doesn't have a story. It has dialogue but it doesn't have a story. Nobody goes through character development, there are no major arcs or plot twists. All it is, is an extremely wordy excuse plot. And don't even try to make it seem like there was some major storyline reason why your partners join you. Because there really isn't all of them apart from Bows can basically be summarized as "oh your doing something important, I should help you then" seriously one of them is only following you so he can do his damn postman job.


And what did those peach segments add? Not a lot. In fact the peach segments are basically padding. (the worst example being when you had to bake a damn cake)

The storyline in the original Paper Mario is about as bare bones as you can get when it comes to rpg plotlines, its only beaten out by those old school rpgs which came down to "you good, he bad, go kill"


Paper Mario 64 was not memorable for its plot. It was memorable for what you did. And thats completely different.

All in your opinion.


Not an opinion. Its a fact. Thats exactly what it is. Paper Mario 64 is an extremely bare boned game when it comes to plot.
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#32wiiking96Posted 3/5/2013 6:24:03 PM
McmadnessV3 posted...
Not an opinion. Its a fact. Thats exactly what it is. Paper Mario 64 is an extremely bare boned game when it comes to plot.

It may be by RPG standards, but not by Mario standards. It's such a well remembered game because it made an attempt to flesh out the Mario universe and give actual personality to Bowser, Peach, and Luigi, as well as introducing a bunch of entertaining new characters all it's own. Do you honestly think that Chapter 2 would have been anywhere near as compelling if Dry Dry Ruins didn't have such a mysterious past, or that Chapter 3 would have been the same without the secret of Tubba Blubba and the unique take on Boos?
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#33Mariofan15Posted 3/5/2013 7:27:46 PM
From: McmadnessV3 | #031
wiiking96 posted...
McmadnessV3 posted...
wiiking96 posted...
McmadnessV3 posted...
Besides Paper Mario 64 showed how little story matters as its plot was extremely simple. Seriously it basically has the same plot of sticker star only more wordy.

Paper Mario 64 wouldn't have been half the game it was if it didn't have it's story. It being simple doesn't mean it wasn't dense and found during every part of the game. Why did Goombario, Kooper, Bombette, Parakarry, Bow, and Sushi join you on your quest? Story reasons. Every chapter had some gameplay that was urged on by a story there. Do you honestly think Paper Mario would be anywhere as well remembered if it didn't have the Peach segments where you got to see insights in not only her character, but Bowser's?

You may not value story and Mario games, but don't act like it doesn't matter to the quality of a game for a lot of people.


Oh please. The game doesn't have a story. It has dialogue but it doesn't have a story. Nobody goes through character development, there are no major arcs or plot twists. All it is, is an extremely wordy excuse plot. And don't even try to make it seem like there was some major storyline reason why your partners join you. Because there really isn't all of them apart from Bows can basically be summarized as "oh your doing something important, I should help you then" seriously one of them is only following you so he can do his damn postman job.


And what did those peach segments add? Not a lot. In fact the peach segments are basically padding. (the worst example being when you had to bake a damn cake)

The storyline in the original Paper Mario is about as bare bones as you can get when it comes to rpg plotlines, its only beaten out by those old school rpgs which came down to "you good, he bad, go kill"


Paper Mario 64 was not memorable for its plot. It was memorable for what you did. And thats completely different.

All in your opinion.


Not an opinion. Its a fact. Thats exactly what it is. Paper Mario 64 is an extremely bare boned game when it comes to plot.


Oh,hell no. Not only is this your opinion but your utterly wrong. The Plot was anything but bare boned.
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