Dinoceros, best way to train?

#1NickvdaPosted 4/7/2013 6:27:53 AM
Hey there,

Luckily I managed to get my hands on a Dinoceros pretty early. Thing is, I don't really know what the best way to train him is or what to feed the bugger.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks :)
#2KiThirstyPosted 4/7/2013 8:45:05 AM
The fastest way to train if you aren't at the end of the game is to teleport to Perdida. Then, follow the path away until you reach the clearing. Fight any Tokotokos you find along the way. At the clearing, teleport to Perdida again, and follow the path, searching for Tokotokos again.
#3Nickvda(Topic Creator)Posted 4/7/2013 8:49:04 AM
@KiThirsty: thnx for the reply :) But I was more wondering about what to feed him etc. :)
#4iambashoPosted 4/7/2013 8:58:10 AM(edited)
If you want the game to be gamebreakingly easy, grind on Tokotokos as the previous poster mentioned. However, once you meta him once, you'll be able to one-shot every random encounter in the game (excluding the post-game golden monsters) with a single earsplitter, and be able to tank the final boss. Just a fair warning if you want to retain some sense of challenge :P
Edit: Ah, I missed the feeding part in the OP as well. Best way to feed him is to steal Snowdrop Bonbons from the owls in the final dungeon (Ivory Tower), buy or steal two crownberries from the casino or enemies in Nazcaa/Ivory Tower, and farm Fairy Chocolates from the pot at the entrance to Perdida. These ingredients alchemize into Princess Chocolates, which are roughly 30x better than the chocolates you buy from the shops for 1/6th the fullness.
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#5Nickvda(Topic Creator)Posted 4/7/2013 9:05:21 AM
@iambasho: Thanks! :)

So basically feed him chocolate till he drops? No accuracy?

As for challenge.. I'm at the point where I just want to finish it :) I find the AI too bothersome to play challenge mode :/
#6iambashoPosted 4/7/2013 9:13:59 AM
Nickvda posted...
So basically feed him chocolate till he drops? No accuracy?

No, no accuracy at all. You'll never attack with your Dino once he earns his third trick slot, so your slots would be a single target attack, war cry, earsplitter. Tricks can't miss, so he has no need of accuracy, and if you do only attack you can get him to the point at which he's dealing 3-4k damage per trick in the post game.
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#7Nickvda(Topic Creator)Posted 4/7/2013 9:35:55 AM
Holy crap, that's pretty insane. Thanks!

This guy is gonna get pumped on chocolate :)
#8johnrayjrPosted 4/7/2013 10:30:03 AM
I can also confirm that accuracy is not a relevant stat for Dino. If you are using him in battle, he should be casting Bowlder or Earsplitter, or maybe alternating between Bowlder and Belly Buster if it's a single enemy (boss). He should never be attacking.

I think his power has been slightly exaggerated here, though. In my case, earsplitter was not powerful enough to one-shot a group of late-game enemies until midway through his third form (Catastrocerous). Earsplitter is still very good, especially in the Solosseum, but when people talk about how it one-shots everything, they're talking about a near-max level Catastrocerous in the postgame.

Also, TC, it doesn't matter what you feed him. His postgame attack stat will be around 640, and that's with the Ogre' King's Axe, which is a purchaseable weapon. A handful of extra points from chocolate isn't going to make a difference (I breezed through every postgame boss and I've hardly fed anyone anything). Don't kill yourself farming high level treats, is all I'm saying.

Lastly, TC, if you're looking for game-breaking postgame familiars, Bone Baron is at least as good, and probably quite a bit better, than Catastrocerous, but you do need to get his levels into the 90s before he becomes God-like (he's a late bloomer, so he will be relatively weak until level 60 and won't start skyrocketing until level 80). A max-level Bone Baron with the Radiant Sword can practically solo most fights in the game.
#9iambashoPosted 4/7/2013 11:19:57 AM
^ Were you using War Cry? That increases damage done by around 60%, and with it my 2nd form Dino was indeed one-shotting everything but Neoliths in IT. And yeah, it does matter what you feed him. An extra 50 attack is an extra 300-500 damage on Bowlder at the bare minimum, and when Oliver can only use 8 or so Bowlders per MP bar that's a huge difference when farming the final post-game boss for the rare items.
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#10johnrayjrPosted 4/7/2013 11:29:10 AM
Sigh.

All you've said is that feeding a familiar raises their stats.

All I've pointed out is that +50 in stats is totally irrelevant to winning, and winning easily, every fight in the game.

So yes, you can invest hours in making the treats that get the +50 bonus, and that will shave a tiny amount of time off the Guardian of Worlds fight. If you fight him enough times, maybe you will come out ahead. Which only begs the question: what on earth are you doing any of this *for.*

My point is simple: you can easily win every battle in the game without investing any time in feeding. By that criteria, feeding is totally irrelevant. If you want to be as powerful as possible simply for the sake of it, that's a different conversation, and it should have been obvious from the start that that's not the conversation going on here.