So is her brother. --- Cyril ~ I'm glad you know your place.
Sailorhell Posted 12/6/2012 9:00:17 PM
I never got that interpretation from that scene.... I just thought she was so upset because she was never going to get the answers she wanted and because she was injured so severely that she just didn't want to say anything. Wasn't much evidence of brain damage.
If you get the fight with her and Volaq in Kysaro and Hobyrim isn't there or says no, you fight her normally and she dies.
Balxephon says something like, "you've got some spittle on your face, there...let me clean it up for you." If Ozma is a drooling mute in a wheelchair, I think that suggests brain damage. --- "You were almost a Jill sandwich!" -Barry, original Resident Evil
Elyon Posted 12/6/2012 9:55:04 PM
Oh, I missed that post, sorry.
I took these a while back for people who hadn't seen (or aren't willing to see) the scene - Spoilers, obviously:
From a realistic standpoint given the dialogue, it's questionable if she even "returns" to Lodis at all, despite the name of the scene. It's quite possible she was killed on the return trip. Not shown: The wind blows Ozma's hair/Balxephon's robe in the last two pictures. This is obviously of import, but I'll leave it up to personal interpretation what it means. --- Cyril ~ I'm glad you know your place.
SazukeEX (Topic Creator) Posted 12/7/2012 3:38:57 AM
That's a very bad ending, being left in such a state that she's drooling on herself. Too bad they never explain how this happened and the foreshadowing of a pirate attack seems to seal her fate of being killed or worse(Cerya fate worse) on the voyage. The Dark Knights they're leaving on the ship may not survive either since there's only a few of them.
Makes me wonder though if he really loved Ozma or was just putting up an act. --- XBox Live: Tinklyknight (Not Gold at the moment due to various reasons)
Elyon Posted 12/7/2012 4:07:28 AM
I don't think there's enough information in the game to pass judgement one way or the other.
It makes the scene easier to handle if you think he loves her, and the romantic in me desperately wishes he does. More realistically, it may be his way of one-upping Hobyrim, so to speak. Everything that was once Hobyrim's is now his, even down to the woman who was arranged to marry. He might not even intentionally be so spiteful.
On the other hand, Balxephon is a Lawful character and, despite his methods, this does give us some idea of how he thinks. His "love" for her may stem out of respect or, more coolly, he's showing such love and respect because he feels it's his duty to do so. --- Cyril ~ I'm glad you know your place.
ACrossCountry Posted 12/7/2012 12:03:08 PM
I don't seem to have that scene, can someone please post how to get it?
final_aeonalex Posted 12/7/2012 1:45:06 PM
Do everything on the Lawful route needed to recruit Ozma but don't do the battle in Krysaro (just advance in the story). I think it appears in the Warren report after Barnica, it never plays during the game itself.
I guess I never put two and two together with the drool thing (it never clicked what exactly "spittle" was). That really depresses me because Ozma is a likable character in Law. And her uncertain fate (added onto her condition, whether just injured or brain damaged) doesn't make it much better.
As for Balxephon, it's really weird that he's so Lawful, when his past actions are Chaotic. He follows Lanselot to the end and chastises the other Dark knights for breaking rules. Even his dialogue with Oz in the 3L shows that he cares for the other Dark Knights and the betrayal at the end of 4 shows he was pretty shocked (maybe even hurt by it). And the alignment is based on character action, not what we or they think they should be (Andoras being N, Barbas being C, Denam being anything, both Lanselots being L). I don't think he's as devious as he was before and I don't think there's any point of him to lie or hide his feelings. Who's he playing for? Hobyrim wasn't an issue until he reappeared in Valeria, Ozma was completely oblivious to what happened (even though Lanselot and Oz seemed to know), and he was in a high position of power. Whatever affection he showed Ozma I think is genuine, even if it wasn't not true love.
I wish they fleshed out the Dark Knights more though.... Oz and Martym are my favorites. Poor Oz dies in every route.... A necessary sacrificed to push the story.... --- Currently playing- Yugioh Tag Force 5,Tactics Ogre, Ratchet & Clank Collection Waiting for- FF Versus XIII, Resident Evil 6, Pokemon BW 2, other stuff
Kiluuen Posted 12/7/2012 2:12:28 PM
Not sure how serious he was being during that interview. He also states that what appealed to Hobyrim about Ozma was her innocence, which I'm not sure would ever be a term I would use for Ozma.
final_aeonalex Posted 12/7/2012 2:19:00 PM
She was pretty naive about what happened in Lodis (particularly with Hobyrim). I don't know if naivety and innocence go hand in hand but it may play a role. Japanese people have a thing about innocent women so all "good" women might be innocent in Matsuno's eye.... --- Currently playing- Yugioh Tag Force 5,Tactics Ogre, Ratchet & Clank Collection Waiting for- FF Versus XIII, Resident Evil 6, Pokemon BW 2, other stuff
Kiluuen Posted 12/7/2012 2:37:43 PM
Not even really sure I would call Ozma good. More like an anti-hero(if she joins). Even Hobyrim can be pretty sketchy, since on most routes he is focused on revenge.
She only joins if Hobyrim believes in your cause(since his loyalty needs to be high-ish for her to have a chance of joining)