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Base stats for Necro Summoner and Conc Barbarian?

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KojiIgarashi
Posted 9/25/2008 3:09:56 AM
I'm using those two builds for the first time, and I'm wondering how much base strength & dexterity I need for them, assuming I want to wear the recommended gear and have max block.
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ifreakovern64
Posted 9/25/2008 3:50:48 AM
I don't know enough about the barb to help you there, but I love the necro. You only need enough strength equip the items you want to equip. I never put more than 118 (after equipment) for the marrowalk boneweave boots. As a summoner, you're not fighting, and so don't really need to worry about blocking. I don't put any hear... at all. Vitality is the point sucker like every build. Put extra ones here. Energy is up for debate. Some don't put any here because you don't use much mana when your minions fight and take a mana pot if they get CE trigger happy. I however didn't like running out of mana after two summons in the early levels, so I think I may have put a hand full of points here.
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ASHNOD
Posted 9/25/2008 8:22:54 AM
Str: Enough for gear
Dext :Enough for max block/enough for gear (It depends if you want max bloxk. If you do, it depends on the lvl you are and what shield you are using)
Vit: Rest
Energy: none
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Karl Marx
Posted 9/25/2008 10:32:54 AM
A well built summoner necro can have base str and max vita. Dex on a summoner necro is pointless.
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Pacifickarma
Posted 9/25/2008 11:11:41 AM
I wouldn't say that dexterity on a Necromancer is pointless. If you're using a shield with a high block percentage, such as the Homonculus, it can be useful. Your skeletons make great shields, but attackers and ranged shots sometimes get therough. I know that having max block has saved me a few times!
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Jvstm
Posted 9/25/2008 11:30:26 AM
A well built summoner necro can have base str and max vita. Dex on a summoner necro is pointless.

What are you wearing that you don't need any str inestment? I hope you're not relying on charms to get your str requirements, (aside from anni/torch) because you actually lose max life by doing that. Better to spend a few points on str than use a charm and put them in Vit.

And I'm not saying this because I'm biased against the use of charms. It's fact, based on real actual numbers.
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KHAOS4
Posted 9/25/2008 11:40:34 AM

Jvstm (#006)
A well built summoner necro can have base str and max vita. Dex on a summoner necro is pointless.

What are you wearing that you don't need any str inestment? I hope you're not relying on charms to get your str requirements, (aside from anni/torch) because you actually lose max life by doing that. Better to spend a few points on str than use a charm and put them in Vit.

And I'm not saying this because I'm biased against the use of charms. It's fact, based on real actual numbers.




I'm assuming that this is because that slot can be filled with a 20 lifer? Moot point until you have enough that the entire rest of your inventory is filled with them.
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Karl Marx
Posted 9/25/2008 12:19:18 PM
What are you wearing that you don't need any str inestment? I hope you're not relying on charms to get your str requirements, (aside from anni/torch) because you actually lose max life by doing that. Better to spend a few points on str than use a charm and put them in Vit.

And I'm not saying this because I'm biased against the use of charms. It's fact, based on real actual numbers.


20 stat torch and anni
Maras
+20 str marrow walks
and a breast plate enigma will give you all the strength you need. Add a Beast zerker and you have strength overkill.
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KojiIgarashi
Posted 9/25/2008 12:39:39 PM
Lemme rephrase my question, then, so I can do the math myself... how much bonus points in strength and dexterity can I get from Enigma and Anni?
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Hydrox_Z
Posted 9/25/2008 1:10:29 PM
Enigma gives 0.75 str per level.
Torch/Anni gives 10-20 to all stats.
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