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    BCless Quest FAQ
    By TheFrigz
    
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    Table of Contents 
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    For an easier time finding what youíre looking for in this FAQ, press CTRL+F
    and search for the 2-3 letter code next to the section you want,
    
    Version History ----------- VH
    Introduction -------------- INT
    Credits ------------------- CR
    Contact Info -------------- CI
    Legal Information --------- LI
    Unobtainable Stars -------- US
    Bob-omb Battlefield ------- BOB
    Whompís Fortress ---------- WF
    Jolly Roger Bay ----------- JRB
    Cool, Cool Mountain ------- CCM
    Big Booís Haunt ----------- BBH
    Hazy Maze Cave ------------ HMC
    Lethal Lava Land ---------- LLL
    Shifting Sand Land -------- SSL
    Dire, Dire Docks ---------- DDD
    Snowmanís Land ------------ SL
    Wet-Dry World ------------- WDW
    Tall, Tall Mountain ------- TTM
    Tiny-Huge Island ---------- THI
    Tick Tock Clock ----------- TTC
    Rainbow Ride -------------- RR
    Castle Secret Stars ------- CSS
    
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    Version History - VH
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    1.0	Wrote the FAQ.
    
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    Introduction - INT
    ------------------
    This is a FAQ about the BCless Quest for Super Mario 64 DS. The BCless Quest is
    where you try to get as many stars as possible without activating any cannons
    or without activating the Power Flower Blocks, also known as "?" Blocks. The
    full name of the quest is the "?" Blockless/Cannonless Quest, and the full
    abbreviation is the "?"B/Cless Quest, but it's usually just shortened down to
    BCless. Many times, getting stars involves the use of glitches, which will be
    detailed in this FAQ. Hopefully, this FAQ will help you. Please note, this is
    not a regular Walkthrough. Most of this guide assumes youíve gotten 150 stars
    (or are close) at least once, and at least know the game pretty well.
    
    This quest was originally created on the GameFAQs SM64DS board, and was based
    off the CCless quest in Super Mario 64. We're proud to be able to get as many
    stars as we can with this, but we will not stop until we have found ways to
    get them all.
    
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    Credits - CR
    ------------
    I decided to get the credits out of the way first. Iíd like to thank the
    following people:
    
    Mike O'Shay, for giving me all of the information I needed to start this FAQ.
    Mike O'Shay is basically the founder of this guide, as he was the discoverer of
    many of the BCless stars. He also one of the very few people to get all 136
    BCless stars, and he's constantly searching for new ways to get the
    unobtainable ones. Also, he's been tons of help with editing this, too.
    
    Peteyboo, for helping me with certain glitches necessary for the BCless Quest.
    
    Swordless Link, for his fantastic glitch FAQ that helped me enormously.
    
    Anyone who wrote an SM64DS FAQ, for helping me figure out what things I needed
    to put in here.
    
    If anyone thinks they deserve credit, contact me.
    
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    Contact Information - CI
    ------------------------
    My email address is brabbit18@comcast.net, but I donít check it frequently, so
    your best hope would be to AIM me at dwayne4593 with any questions, comments,
    or concerns. You can also contact Mike O'Shay for other BCless-related
    questions at Mike OShay 1022 on AIM, or mike1022_@hotmail.com for MSN.
    
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    Legal Information - LI
    ----------------------
    This guide was created by TheFrigz. Anyone claiming ownership of this guide
    will have legal action taken against them. Only the following sites are allowed
    to post this guide:
    
    http://www.gamefaqs.com
    
    If any other sites and/or people post this guide anywhere else, legal action
    will be taken.
    
    Now that all of that is out of the way, letís start with the good stuff.
    
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    Unobtainable Stars - US
    -----------------------
    There are a total of 136 possible BCless stars. The following stars are
    currently unobtainable following the requirements of the BCless Quest:
    
    Castle Secret Stars: The Secret Under the Moat 8 Red Coins, Behind the
    Waterfall Secret Star, Over the Rainbow 8 Red Coins, Goomboss Battle 8 Red
    Coins, Big Boo Battle Secret Room, and Chief Chilly Challenge 8 Red Coins.
    
    Bob-omb Battlefield: All stars are obtainable.
    
    Whompís Fortress: All stars are obtainable.
    
    Jolly Roger Bay: Star #6: Switch Star of the Bay, and Star #7: Through the Jet
    Stream.
    
    Cool, Cool Mountain: All stars are obtainable.
    
    Big Booís Haunt: Star #6: Eye to Eye in the Secret Room.
    
    Hazy Maze Cave: Star #3: Metal-Head Wario can Move.
    
    Lethal Lava Land: All stars are obtainable.
    
    Shifting Sand Land: All stars are obtainable.
    
    Dire, Dire Docks: Star #6: Inside the Cage.
    
    Snowmanís Land: Star #6: Into the Igloo.
    
    Wet-Dry World: All stars are obtainable.
    
    Tall, Tall Mountain: All stars are obtainable.
    
    Tiny-Huge Island: All stars are obtainable.
    
    Tick Tock Clock: Star #1: Luigi in the Cage, and Star #7: Tick Tock Silver
    Stars.
    
    Rainbow Ride: All stars are obtainable.
    
    A BIG thank-you to Mike O'Shay for providing me with this list!
    
    Onto the stars. Note that I will only be writing guides for stars that are hard
    to get BCless.
    
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    Bob-omb Battlefield - BOB
    -------------------------
    *Star #5*: Mario Wings to the Sky
    Character: Luigi
    
    This is very hard to do, so donít get discouraged. From the top of the
    mountain, backflip and hold B and spin onto the floating island. From here you
    can reach the first coin. Back on top of the mountain, backflip spin into the
    second coin, and again, for the third. The next two coins, however, are
    unobtainable by using this method. This is where the tricky part begins. You
    go to the slope near the bottom of the mountain with the red coin on it. Climb
    the slope, and turn around. Angle yourself to the right, facing the steep hill
    to the right. Long jump onto this hill, slide kick immediately and aim a bit
    left. If you got lucky, youíll crash into the wall, and fly very high up into
    the air. Now you have to land on one of the coins, and then do it again for the
    last coin. A video of this Heavenís Portal glitch can be found here:
    
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=mJ7mss5d-MM
    The glitch is the very first one shown.
    
    After all 5 coins are gotten, get the star, and pat yourself on the back.
    
    *Star #6*: Find the 8 Red Coins
    Character: Luigi
    
    The first 7 coins are easy, the 8th one you just backflip to the island to get.
    Easy.
    
    *Star #7*: Behind Chain Chomp's Gate
    Character: Anyone
    
    Some people use Luigi's invisibility to get this star, so this will explain how
    to get it without. Get to the wooden post that Chain Chomp is... chained to. 
    Ground Pound on it until it is all the way in the ground. Be careful not to get
    hit by him, or you'll lose health. After this is done, Chain Chomp will crash
    the fence down, leaving the star open for you to get.
    
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    Whompís Fortress - WF
    ---------------------
    
    *Star #3*: Shoot into the Wild Blue
    Character: Mario / Alternate: Yoshi or Luigi
    
    This star is usually intended to be gotten with the cannons, though there are
    actually two simple alternatives to doing it that way.
    
    First method: From the start, get up to the area with the shallow water and the
    ring of coins. Continue heading left, past the Pink Bob-Omb that would activate
    the cannon. Go down the ramp, to the area with the blue coin switch. From here,
    you should triple jump against the brick wall and wall jump at the peak of your
    jump. With a little placement, and some trial-and-error, you should land on the
    platform with the star.
    
    Alternate method: From the start of the level, make your way over to the two
    large Thwomps that are constantly smashing down on a stairway-like area.
    Continue downward and go to the place with an unactivated ? block and two red
    brick blocks. Go into the corner formed by the fence and the wall and stand
    still for a few seconds. You will teleport to an area with a large pole. Now
    you have to get down to the platform with the star, or the one just above it.
    If you are Yoshi, jump backwards off the platform slightly and flutter jump
    (hold B) to climb the air and hopefully land on the platform. If you are Luigi,
    just backflip and land on the platform after a nice, quick trip.
     
    *Star #6*: Blast Away the Wall
    Character: Any
    
    Yeah, itís possible. Very hard. But possible. Choose the first star, and get to
    the top of the fortress. Challenge King Whomp to battle. Head over to the side
    of the platform closest to the shallow water and the ring of coins below. Once
    youíre on this side, make King Whomp fall. Jump, and aim for right where his
    crown meets his head. If you did it right, heíll push you through the level,
    and youíll land in water. Rules for being in this water: NEVER JUMP. The water
    wonít be there when you land, and youíll fall to your death. Donít go back onto
    land. Self-explanatory. The goal is to swim into the cannon. (Notice that this
    doesnít violate the BCless rules because you never activated the cannon) Now
    you just shoot to the corner of the wall that you normally shoot at, and get
    the star.
    
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    Jolly Roger Bay - JRB
    ---------------------
    *Star #4*: Blast to the Stone Pillar
    Character: Luigi
    
    Easy enough, just get on top of the ship, and Luigi-backflip to the ledge with
    the star. Done.
    
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    Cool, Cool Mountain - CCM
    -------------------------
    *Star #4*: Frosty Slide for 8 Red Coins
    Character: Yoshi
    
    6 of the coins are obtained as normal, the two encased in ice are obtained by
    eating the nearby fires and melting the ice, rather than using a Power
    Flower.
    
    *Star #6*: Mario's Super Wall Kick
    Character: Luigi
    
    Normally, for this star, you'd use the cannon to get to the area where Mario
    wall kicks. Instead, you use Luigi's backflip from above the area, and gently
    float down. Now, instead of wall kicking, you can actually Luigi-backflip from
    platform to platform, resulting in an easy star.
    
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    Big Booís Haunt - BBH
    ---------------------
    *Star #4*: Seek the 8 Red Coins
    Character: Luigi
    
    7 of the coins are obtained normally; the one in the main room high in the
    center of the room can be obtained by standing at the top of the steps, and
    backflipping to the coin.
    
    *Star #5*: Big Boo's Balcony
    Character: Luigi
    
    Some people think you need the Power Flower to get up to the third floor, when
    you can actually stand on the wooden platform near the door to the third floor
    and either wall jump (as Mario) or backflip (as Luigi.) After the star 
    appears, you can get up there by long jumping or backflipping to either of
    the jutting-out areas of the house, then getting yourself up to the top
    section of the roof, going around, and getting the star.
    
    *Star #7*: Switch Star in the Basement
    Character: Wario
    
    Get into the basement. In the area outside the merry-go-round, there is a
    black box that only Wario can destroy. Break it, and then hit the switch.
    Even with Wario's slowness, you CAN make it around the merry-go-round in time,
    if you long jump when possible. Be careful not to fall into the water, and 
    stay as inside as possible. You should make it. If you need to, you can put on
    a Luigi or Mario cap so you can run faster, but you may not need it.
    
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    Hazy Maze Cave - HMC
    --------------------
    All (obtainable) stars are done the way they normally would be.
    
    ----------------------
    Lethal Lava Land - LLL
    ----------------------
    All stars are done the way they normally would be.
    
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    Shifting Sand Land - SSL
    ------------------------
    *Star #7*: Free Flying For 8 Red Coins
    Character: Luigi
    
    Hereís the way I do this star:
    From the start, turn around and head backward until you get the first red coin.
    Next, break the box in the stone structure for the second red coin. Now, head
    toward the Tox Box maze. After the first straightaway part, there is a fork.
    Take the right side. Jump across the killer sand, and you should see a black
    box that only Wario can destroy. Climb it, and long jump across the gap in the
    killer sand. You should see a red coin to your left. Get it, and then continue
    this way in the maze. At the end, get the red coin in the water, for number 4.
    Now, climb on top of the pillar near you. Luigi-backflip to the red coin
    nearest it. Do the same for the pillar next to it. Now, climb the ramp that
    leads to the pyramidís entrance, and go right. Long jump over the killer sand,
    and climb the third pillar, backflipping for the 7th red coin. The 8th red
    coin is unobtainable from the fourth pillar. Get over to where Klepto is (where
    we got the 4th coin) and find the cork box. Itís not the one that sends you
    flying when you grab it, itís the smaller one. Climb the last pillar with it in
    your hands. Get on it, and backflip to the last red coin. Congratulations! You
    are done with this hellish star!
    
    ----------------------
    Dire, Dire Docks - DDD
    ----------------------
    *Star #4*: Through the Jet Stream
    YOU MUST GET THIS STAR BEFORE BEATING BOWSER IN THE FIRE SEA. IF YOU BEAT
    BOWSER, THE SUBMARINE WILL DISAPPEAR AND YOU WILL BE UNABLE TO GET ALL 136
    BCLESS STARS.
    Character: Yoshi
    
    This glitch is far easier in V1, however it is still possible in V2. I have V2,
    and it didnít take me very long at all. Iíll post the different strategies for
    V1 and V2/EUR.
    
    For V1: Enter the area with Bowserís sub. Swim under one of the little fins in
    the back. Jump, and youíll get pushed underwater. You'll notice that when you
    try to jump out of the water, you instantly splash back down. Ground pound
    within this small timeframe, and you will be walking underwater.
    
    For V2/EUR: Do basically the same thing, but in V2 it was fixed where you could
    jump out of water if thereís something right above you, which slightly
    complicates things. What you need to do is swim so you are about halfway under
    the fin, but not completely under it. Now jump and ground pound. I found the
    hardest part about doing it was timing the ground pound.
    
    Now that youíre underwater, go over to the cage. Triple jump on top of it, and
    get the Luigi hat. Head over to the jet stream. Backflip onto the stream, and
    Luigi should hover there, not moving up or down, just spinning. Wait until 5
    rings pass around you. Now, get off of the stream, and run into a clam to lose
    your hat. Go back over to the stream and eat the star with Yoshiís tongue.
    Done!
    
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    Snowman's Land - SL
    -------------------
    *Star #3*: Yoshi's Ice Sculpture
    Character: Yoshi
    
    As opposed to using a Power Flower to melt the ice, we eat the fire in the
    area with all the hatted Goombas.
    
    -------------------
    Wet-Dry World - WDW
    -------------------
    
    *Star #4*: Express Elevator--Hurry Up!
    Character: Anyone
    
    Some people get this star with Luigi's invisibility, so here's how you're
    supposed to do it. Get to the top of the tall cage (on top of which one of
    the 5 secrets appears) and head onto the left side of the wooden platform that
    juts out from the cage. It should start moving down. Jump off the side of the
    wooden platform, landing at the bottom. Go into the little opening in the 
    fence, and when the platform reaches the bottom, jump up onto this side of it.
    It will bring you back up to the top, and you can get the star.
    
    *Star #6*: Quick Race Through Downtown!
    Character: Anyone
    
    Push the metal box near Chuckya into the corner, but leave a little space.
    (donít push it all the way into the corner) Get on top of it, and go into first
    person mode. Hold down until you canít look any farther up. Now rotate the
    camera around so you donít see either wall, or the top of the box. Press B, and
    you should fall through the ground into some water outside the boundaries. This
    is tricky, but you swim right next to the pipe you normally swim through. You
    swim as close as you can without getting pushed inside. If you did it right 
    the town should load fully when you swim past the load point in the middle of
    the pipe (You have to be swimming towards the town), and youíll be out of
    bounds still. Swim up and under the cage, and get the star. Video of the
    falling through the box glitch can be found here:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=yQ0iiNDaChA
    
    *Star #7*: Soaked Silver Stars
    Character: Luigi
    
    One of these is actually hard to get. Get the four that are obvious, then head
    to the area where "Top O' the Town" is obtained. When on the platform with
    the aforementioned star, look in the direction of the silver star. Head down
    one platform, so you are on the spinning platform. When you spin closest to
    the star, backflip, and you may get the last star. This is tricky, so don't
    give up. Another method is getting on top of the tube with the two 1-Ups in it,
    then backflipping and getting to the star.
    
    -------------------------
    Tall, Tall Mountain - TTM
    -------------------------
    *Star #5*: Blast to the Lonely Mushroom
    Character: Mario or Luigi
    
    Get to the area with Ukiki. Run on the log, and long jump at the end. You can
    easily land on the mushroom this way. If you canít get it, use Luigiís
    backflip from the same spot. You could also use the owl to get to it, if you
    wanted to.
    
    *Star #6*: 5 Secrets of the Mountain
    Character: Mario or Luigi
    
    From the start, go into the nearby tree to release the owl. Use the owl to fly
    into the 5 "secrets" on the mountain (The five middle-coins at the level's
    top. >_>). If you're too impatient to wait for the owl to lower to the coins'
    level, just drop onto the circles and restore any lost health with the water.
     
    ----------------------
    Tiny-Huge Island - THI
    ----------------------
    All stars are done the way they normally would be.
    
    ---------------------
    Tick Tock Clock - TTC
    ---------------------
    All (obtainable) stars are done the way they normally would be. Many people ask
    why you canít get Tick Tock Silver Stars. This is because for them to appear,
    you need to have gotten all the other stars in the level. Luigi in the Cage is
    not possible to get yet BCless, so neither is Tick Tock Silver Stars.
    
    -----------------
    Rainbow Ride - RR
    -----------------
    *Star #1*: Cruiser Crossing the Rainbow
    Character: Luigi
    
    Metal Wario isn't actually needed for this star. Here's an alternate method:
    Get to the top of the big house. Backflip in the direction of the star, and
    you can float down onto it, if you don't go into the wind. Other methods of
    getting this star include swallowing it with Yoshi, repeatedly long-jumping
    towards the star (you'll eventually reach it) and (dangerously) jumping around
    the wind.
    
    *Star #6*: Somewhere Over the Rainbow
    Character: Luigi
    
    Get to the top of the house. On the house, there should be a ! box in one of
    the corners. Get on top of it, and aim towards the island with the star. Luigi
    backflip to it.
    
    *Star #7*: Switch Star of the Manor
    Character: Mario or Luigi
    
    This is hard. While riding the carpet, the ride takes you into the house twice,
    and out of it twice. When it takes you into the house for the second time, long
    jump, run like hell, press the switch, run back like hell, and if youíre lucky,
    youíll make it back onto the carpet before it disappears. If you do, ride up,
    and get the star. Also make sure to watch out for the fire in the house, as it
    seems to like knocking BClessers off the carpet on this one. >_>
    
    -------------------------
    Castle Secret Stars - CSS
    -------------------------
    *The Secret Under the Moat Switch Star*
    Character: Wario
    
    When you start the level, run to the right before you start the slide. Slide
    down, jump onto the wall to your right, jump again, off the side. If you donít
    understand this, then just slide all the way down. Get to the Mario cap. Run
    back, to where the power flower box would be if you activated it. Angle
    yourself sorta towards the wall but more towards the platform you are trying to
    get to. Triple jump, and wall kick, and if youíre lucky, youíll make it on the
    platform. From there, run to the other side of the platform. Triple jump
    against the wall at the edge of the level, and wall kick, you should hit the
    other wall, continue wall kicking up, until you get to the top. Then dive over
    and wall kick up the next set of walls, getting to the star. Congratulate
    yourself.
    
    *In the Sky 8 Red Coins*
    Character: Mario
    
    This isn't against the rules, as long as you don't hit the switch. You're
    using the Power Flower, but the challenge is BLOCKless, not FLOWERless.
    Get this star as you normally would.
    
    *Power Star of the Mirror Room*
    Character: Luigi
    
    Again, you aren't breaking the rules by using the Power Flower in the mirror
    room. Go ahead and get this star as you normally would as well.
    
    *Behind the Waterfall 8 Red Coins*
    Character: Anyone
    
    The 4 coins on platforms should be simple. The 4 underwater are a bit trickier
    to get. For the red coin nearest where the star will appear, what you have to
    do is get on the last platform, and angle yourself at about the left edge of
    the waterfall. Triple Jump and dive at that spot on the wall. Ground Pounding
    doesn't get you as far below the water and diving against a wall for some
    reason. If you are lucky, you'll land right on the coin. I'd suggest using
    Luigi to get this coin, as he is the tallest and will fall most easily into the
    water, likely landing deeper than the others would. If this doesn't work,
    adjust your angle and try again. The other 3 underwater you just jump in from
    the last platform and swim low, and get a little luck on your side.
    
    *Over the Rainbow Switch Star*
    Character: Wario
    
    Get into the Over the Rainbow area. (no brainer, right? >_>) Using first
    person mode and the touch screen map, face towards the cloud with the tree and
    black box that only Wario can destroy. Get a running start and Long Jump to
    it. You should make it on the edge. Now just break the block and get the star.
    
    *Big Boo Battle 8 Red Coins
    Character: Mario or Luigi
    
    7 coins are easy; the one that is normally floated to with Mario's Power 
    Flower can either be wall jumped to as Mario or backflipped to as Luigi.
    
    *Chief Chilly Challenge Switch Star*
    Character: Luigi
    
    Get into Chief Chilly Challenge. Get the Wario cap. At the fork, go left. On
    this little bridge, you have to run almost completely against the wind, but
    partially to the opposite side. The wind may push you off a bit, but you'll 
    come back on somehow and keep running, Continue this until you get to the
    other side. Break the block and get the star.
    
    
    
    I hope this guide has helped you obtain all 136 BCless stars, and I hope we can
    eventually succeed in our goal to get all 150 someday.