_ _ _ __ __ | | | | | | | \/ | | |__| | __ _ _ ____ _____ ___| |_ | \ / | ___ ___ _ __ | __ |/ _` | '__\ \ / / _ \/ __| __| | |\/| |/ _ \ / _ \| '_ \ | | | | (_| | | \ V / __/\__ \ |_ | | | | (_) | (_) | | | | |_| |_|\__,_|_| \_/ \___||___/\__| |_| |_|\___/ \___/|_| |_| ><<<<< ><< << ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><< ><<<<< ><< << Money Making FAQ by TripleJump Copyright (c) 2007-2009 TripleJump Created: February 19th, 2007 Last Updated: July 20, 2009 ================= TABLE OF CONTENTS ================= 1. Introduction 2. Frequently Asked Questions 3. Income 4. Expenses 5. The Billion Gold Glitch 6. Credits ================================================================================ INTRODUCTION ================================================================================ Hello my good reader, welcome to another TripleJump FAQ, I'm sure you are sick and tired of them by now, but please bear with me. As this one hopefully won't be as miserable for a failure as the last few :P. This FAQ is for the game Harvest Moon: DS. A Money FAQ, more specifically. You may know me as "JMM" from Ushi No Tane Forums. Where I frequently type up help guides. I wrote this ages ago, and decided to revamp it a little and submit it to GameFAQs and other sites I contribute to. I first got addicted to this game series by the Friends of Mineral Town Harvest Moon game, and what wasn't to like? You got to run your own farm, going around town and sell things to the people. In addition, you can raise animals, get married and make friends. After that classic, I picked up A Wonderful Life as a reward for such a nice report card. (A in everything but Art and P.E., which were B's!) I enjoyed it thoroughly. I mean, I had a sleepover, and that is the only game we played, from 7:00PM-4:30AM. A couple months later I nabbed AnWL for my birthday, and a long time later, I picked up this game. You can send me an email if you have a question at: triplejumpfaqs[at]gmail[dot]com. However, PLEASE keep it money making related, I am not a total HMDS master. If you want info on other aspects, please view www.fogu.com/hm6 as it is a wonderful site jampacked with information on the game. **UPDATE** I would like to give my heartfelt thanks to all the readers out there who voted and made this guide a reccomended guide, giving it the star status by the name. You are the reason I write FAQs! ================================================================================ FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ================================================================================ These are commonly asked questions I have received in email. Check this section before emailing me about it, and if it still isn't there, read the rest of the FAQ because it is loaded with information. Q. How do I unlock Van? A. Van will come to the Inn on days that end in a 3 or 8. He will be upstairs at the back at 11:00AM, and you can sell him items that can't be sold normally. Q. How do I unlock the Casino? A. There are a few sprites you need to unlock to get the Casino. After the first ever 8th of spring, attempt to walk across the bridge to Vesta's farm. You will find the first Sprite which unlocks the casino. However, you will still need to get more sprites to play the games. You find one in the well to the left of Griffin's bar if you search it on the right side of the well. Another is in the stove in the area behind the Inn (jump over the fence) and the last is in the fountain at Romana's. Search the fountain by going to the front (bottom) of it. Q. How do I win for sure at the Casino? A. You don't, its all based on chance and probability. Q. How do I get a better price from Van? A. Start selling an item and when he names his price, don't sell, then try to sell again. It might go down, it might go up or it might stay the same. Who knows what it will do? Q. Why can't I do the glitch? A. Some games can't do the glitch unfortunately. Q. How do I level crops? A. You level crops by planting more than one bag of seeds on the same soil. There's a chance it will be higher level when it grows (see description of crop after harvest). To get higher level seeds you will need the Seed Maker and the higher level crops. Q. How do I get higher level milk? A. You have to use the touch screen glove and milk the cows by hand. If you do it fast enough, it will level to medium at 10,000 and Large at 22,500 points. Thanks to Cassandra Ellefson and Nakaylia Henry, both whom pointed a number higher than this out but prompted me to do a check and figure out it was 22,500. Q. How do I get the mines? A. Go to Flora and Carter's excavation site. Bring the hammer and go late at night (past 9:00) and have the hammer equipped. Go inside the excavation site and Carter will be there and he will tell you to smash the wall and open the mine. This is how to get the first one out of four. To get the rest, you have to go to the bottom floor of the mines one by one and then go back to the excavation site at the same time and place with the Hammer equipped to trigger the same scene only about the second mine. Q. Fodder Glitch Question? A. Read the expenses section, it has been probably answered there in this update. ================================================================================ INCOME ================================================================================ This section is devoted to finding ways to improve your income. Simple things such as finding more items and turning products into better ones is what this is all about. ----- Crops ----- - Try to use the ones that are from the casino. You can start with 100-200 medals and easily make it to 100000 medals, then just purchase a ton of the crop seeds and set the sprites off. Little fee, big results. Be sure to lend a bit of a hand sometimes to water. Make sure to either Plant: XXX XXX X X Or if you prefer the sprites to harvest, then make sure to put the full crop there. - Try to boost the crop levels big time. This will pay off nicely. Also, plant in the Super Field. This reduces the gaps between the crops that can reproduce every 2 days to every day. - Thanks to the basements, you can have a lot of different seasoned crops going at the same time. This can help, as you can make a really good crop all season around. - Filling the whole fields is a good mass maker strategy. But requires massive sprite affection and help. Be sure to plan it out well beforehand. So you always have waterers and harvesters. - BAP points out that fruits and veggies sell for more as seeds. Turn them into seeds and sell to Van. - Dotcow says that you should level pineapples up. At level 20 they sell for 300K a piece. -------- Foraging -------- - Get the little grasses and items that grow. Selling to Van may be more profitable than shipping to Thomas, I am not sure which way is better. They appear around the fields at random, and if you keep the public fields clean (selling the weeds and rocks in the process) you can get more each day. -------------- Casino Abusing -------------- - Get some medals, play a game, win, then double until you have enough medals to buy the Red Cloak (some 64 thousand). Sell it to Van for 400K-600K. Then rinse and repeat. - The Casino also is good to get more items for cheap from. The medals are simple to double. Unfortunately, there isn't a sure fire way to beat the casino. So you are stuck with luck. It can get frustrating at times. - Chiken20 tells me that instead of getting a Red Cloak, you can instead get the Friendship Bangle and sell it for 34000G, it's easier to reproduce as it only costs 5000 Medals instead of 64000. ---------- Excavating ---------- - Save inside the excavation site. Dig up an item, reload and go to the same spot. Dig it up. Save and continue. Find another one, reload, and repeat. When every spot is checked, exit, come back in, save and continue. The items at this site are worth around 2,000G each. A pretty penny when you have a rucksack full of them. -------------------------------- This is the same thing, but has a lot more detail. Thanks to Failisse: To get A LOT of gold at one time, my suggestion is that you go to the dig site (Where you find jewelry, ect) at the beginning of the day (6 am); make sure you have 100 stamina and 0 fatigue as well as 4 bodigizers or an equivalent of 10 indigo grasses. - Save when you enter dig site, and begin digging with hoe until you find an item (jewelry, ect). - When you find the first item, DO NOT SAVE; remember where that item is, and reload, - Find the item spot and dig ONCE to get the item. -Save once you have it and THEN continue digging. - Once you find another item, remember the place, reload, and dig ONCE again, only where you found the item. - Repeat process, until you have searched entire cave and found no more items (By doing it this way you save A LOT of stamina; one dig= 2 stamina points gone) - After that cave is finished, QUICKLY run out and then back in so you donít lose time. - Then repeat process over again, until you have cleared enough caves, that your stamina is at 0 or -2 (fatigue 2). - This is the time to use your bodigizer or grasses. Drink 2 bodigizers, or an equivalent of 5 indigo grasses (NOTE: Indigo grasses boost you 20 Stamina points up); then repeat process until you have used up all bodigizers and or indigo grasses. - After you have collected enough items at the dig site, go to Vanís shop at 10 am (on a day Van is there), go up to his booth, SAVE, and THEN sell items, for as high a price as you can get them. If Van does not offer the amount of gold you want, say ďdonít sellĒ, and try again after trying to sell another item. - Try selling him your dig site items until you get the desired price. Sell ALL of them, and youíll get A TON of money. Just be sure to save ONLY AFTER you get the amount of gold you want. Remember: Earrings Bracelets Necklaces Broaches All sell for 2,000 gold each. An example Iíll give of my profit is this: I sold 6 broaches for 19,000 gold for all of them: The original price, if I had shipped them would have been this : 6 x 2,000= 12,000 gold So basically I got an extra 7,000 gold for ONLY those items, I got A LOT more money by selling the rest of the dig site items for high prices. Overall, I got about 200,000 gold by selling only 8 earrings, 6 broaches, 8 necklaces, 5 bracelets, and 11 skin lotions. Once again Iíll say THIS IS A TEDIOUS AND REPETATIVE TASK, but it is DEFINITELY WORTH IT. I am only on my 14th day of Summer, in Year 1, and I have already my animal and bird barn, as well as a pond; with one sheep, one cow, two chickens, and one duck. And I am currently having my house upgraded. I have a LOT of other things that I was able to gain by using this strategy of fast money making. It is a good strategy for people who are just starting the game, and want to obtain money fast for whatever reason. ------ Mining ------ - Getting the Alexandrite and Pink Diamonds at the floors of the second mine that are multiples of 3 or 10 and floor 100 or lower over and over again, then selling to Van is a very good money making idea. But it is very real life time consuming. Bring Bodigers and Turbojolts. Use the save and reload trick a lot to ensure falling on the right floors, also, using the save and reboot the system to get rid of the monsters is a good idea. - Selling the cursed items that you can find in the mine is profitable from. Better after you bless them though. Sell to Van. - Using the Miracle Gloves, you can sell anything you get in the mine by throwing it on the ground. Although selling the Miracle Gloves would be a better idea for profit, if you have them. ------- Fishing ------- - Catch as many as you can and sell to Van. You can also hire the sprites to work for you as this. Getting all of them to do it is profitable. Pirate Treasures and Fish Fossils are reccomended. When available. ------- Animals ------- - Buy a chicken, raise it to a decent level of affection. Then incubate an egg. Ship the eggs in between hatching and whenever there is an incubation open, put an egg in. Then as a chicken hatches, raise it to a grown chicken, then sell to the poultry farm. Easy money. - Cows are a self-sustaining group of animals. Make a fenced in area. Mine looks like a barn, with a silo, then the bird barn nearby. Then the whole place is surrounded completely by stone fence. Put grass squares in. I have roughly 60-70 squares of grass and 4 cows. I leave the cows outside. The grass regrows at a rate that they will never go hungry. Be sure to brush, touch and talk to them. Ship the milk. Cows are more profitable than sheep, in my opinion. (This paragraph was written long ago.) ************************** MAJOR MONEY MAKER BELOW! The major cow scam is a great way to rake in dough. There is a glitch, instead of leveling up your milker one level at a time (it takes years), you can get it by leveling it up to level 1. The Bar goes up little by little each time you use it, you don't even have to use it on the cows. After they are at level 1, each use makes it go up by 1 level. That's really easy. As you have a level 99 milker, you get 100 milks per use. Or if you use the touch screen to increase the size, you get 99 milks that are larger. So, here is what you do: Get as many cows as you can and raise them until they are large enough to give milk. Use the milker on them to get massive amounts of milk. Turn those milks into Cheese with the maker. If you have 10 cows, you can get up to 297,000G a day with just medium milk. A very good way to make cash. That's 8,910,000G a season and 35,640,000G a year. Easy as pie! ************************** END MAJOR MONEY MAKER - There is also a glitch where you can milk your horse. Here it is, it's by "TheJelloFarmer" of Ushi No Tane forums: --- Step 1. Without the touch glove, brush your horse Step 2. While the Brushing switch tool for milker or shears Step 3. You get the milk, some say they get a higher lvl milk than usual. --- This can be used on sheep and any brushable animals. It can be done infinite times a day. It's a good one, but still a glitch. I don't like glitches much. ----- Trees ----- - In the long run, tree's can pay off. Plant them around the parks throughout town in area's that grow few forageable plants, and mostly weeds. Get the fruit a year or two later. The reason these are planted in other areas is so that you save farmland for crops. --------------------- Low Income Strategies --------------------- - While plucking weed's and junk from your fields, pocket them. Then sell them. It merits 1G for each one. It may be a rip off, but it's better than nothing. With the amount of room the rucksack has, there is little loss. - If you are coming to winter soon, mow your grass over and sell some of the fodder. These strategies are for bums, but who cares. - If you are desperate for dough, sell all your fodder and animals and items that you do not need. This is only for DESPERATE Folks. I mean if you need money for a thing before a certain date, not because you are out. Money will come back in days. It just takes time. ================================================================================ EXPENSES ================================================================================ The last section was about trying to make more money, this is about trying to save more money but cutting down on prices. --------------- Seeds and Items --------------- - If possible, get from the sprite's casino for medals. Which are easier to reproduce than money. --------- Buildings --------- - Easily the most money saving option, but still some reliablility is wood. You can avoid storms by saving every night before bed, then checking the weather in the morning. If it looks bad, reload. Otherwise, Stone is the best option. ************************* GREAT TRICK HERE! - However, there is a trick that I learned on the UNoT Forums that isn't a glitch, and is very sneaky. If you buy a cheap fodder building and put a cat or dog pet inside, it will not collapse. Ever. Why? Pet's cannot die. So you can have a fodder building for years! UPDATE: Some newer versions of the games fix this glitch, and several people have sent me emails saying that it will still fall if they put pets in it. To get your pets back, build another version of the same building and it will be inside of it. Thanks for Susan Powell who discovered that it will come back by rebuilding it. She was also the first to point it out, but Timeleaper also pointed this out which prompted a much needed update. Also, The Werf has told me that if you hold your pet before going to bed in the building, it's much less likely to fall. He has no evidence, but a test he did shows that it has gone less if you pick up and drop the pet inside. We should be doing this anyway if our pets are inside. ************************* END GREAT TRICK! - Wood is good, but not to be relied on. It will go bad in a storm or two. - Fodder is a terrible option, unless you use the great trick above. It isn't even certain that it will survive a sunny day. - Gold Lumber is the best option. It will never go bad. But it is very expensive and not reccomended. Use Stone instead. It has about a 1/100 chance of being destroyed in a storm. - Buy the buildings as they are needed, not wanted. Exceptions being Barns and Coops. If you will spend a fortune on a maker house, and you don't have anything to turn into with the makers (or Adamantite, for that matter) why bother? ----- Tools ----- - From the start, you shouldn't upgrade them all until you can upgrade straight to Mystrile or Gold. That way, you save a whole lot of money. However, sometime you will have to get those stumps and boulders. Always remember to not do the tools one level by one level. Upgrade as needed, not wanted. Try saving the Hoe and Hammer for later. As you can mine with those. Get the watering can done when the sprites are watering crops. -------- Marriage -------- - Marriage can get expensive. You have two options: Hold out for a while before marrying, or rush through the whole process as fast as you can. The first option allows you to have a long, stable money amount. While the second one starts you off poor, but then the money comes rushing in, as you do not have to see a girl every day once they are a high level. The second option is better, as it also gives you time to get those darned Harvest Sprites. ================================================================================ THE BILLION GOLD GLITCH ================================================================================ Everyone is screaming "How do I get this glitch! I'm a loser and I want to ruin my game". Using this glitch will cause you to lose all the fun in it. The reason Harvest Moon DS is so fun is because you always have to save up for something new. Most people who use this eventually lose interest. So actually play your game instead. However, if you want to use it, fine with me. Note that some games DO NOT have this glitch. Some do, but don't always work. Keep trying. ALSO NOTE THAT IF YOU EMAIL ME WITH REQUESTS FOR HOW TO DO THIS, I WILL TAKE YOUR EMAIL AND SIGN IT UP ON AS MANY MAILING LISTS I CAN GET MY HANDS ON! Don't. Seriously. Having never performed the glitch myself, these are what others said worked for them. Try doing the tips written. Enkouen wrote: Hire fishing team in winter, buy 99 chicken feed, and then ship a rock. HMSS_Lover wrote: I just put a rock in the basket and shipped it through the horse. harvest_girl9364 wrote: You don't have to buy the chicken feed. I didn't. All I did was hire the sprites and made sure that there was NO GAME IN THE BOTTOM SLOT OF MY DS, then shipped a stone through my main shipping bin, and it worked. Thejellofarmer wrote: I only get Billion Glitch with them (the sprites) at beach (hired at the beach). Basically, you hire the sprite fishing team in winter, buy 99 chicken feed and ship a rock through your horse. Do it with no game in the GameBoy Advance slot of your DS. This is what works. If these don't work, you're game probably does not have this game. ***UPDATE*** I have received a number of emails about this. Apparently not all the steps are needed. I'm still going to keep them there however, just in case. The following people told me this. Bob Powers HMDS_girl1616 Mary Now get lost, cheater! --------------------- ANOTHER MONEY GLITCH! --------------------- Spacechase0 sent me an email about another glitch: I heard about a mini-game when examining the dog house at 4:44, and I tried it. When I one, I got the diploma and my money was upped to 1 billion G! I am not sure if this was just a really rare glitch or one with every game, but I thought I would tell you so you could add it if anyone else proved it true. He then followed up with a side effect: It might have caused this, I don't know, but I was on the phone and I spent some of that 1 billion, and my top screen went black when I came off the phone (Luckily I knew which way the door was and walked out, which fixed it). Just thought you might add the side effect. If anyone else gets information on this, let me know. ================================================================================ CREDITS ================================================================================ - Cher's HMDS site (www.fogu.com/hm6) - Darkrangeresp, his FAQ had the Pink Diamond and Alexandrite trick. Which I used in my game for fantastic results. - The quoted people who wrote about the Billion Glitch. Enkouen, HM_SS Lover, harvest_girl9364 and TheJelloFarmer. - TheJelloFarmer, for the horse milking glitch glitch - Lord BAP - Dotcow - Failisse, for a better excavation tip. - The Werf, for info on the fodder house glitch. - Susan Powell for telling me how to retrieve animals that died in the fodder house (pets) - Timeleaper for also pointing out that the fodder house sometimes falls - Cassandra Ellefson/Nakaylia Henry for pointing out the number of points needed for a large milk. - Spacechase0 for another glitch. - Bob Powers, HMDS_girl1616, Mary for confirming many of my Billion Dollar glitch steps are unnecessary. === This FAQ is Copyright (c) 2007-2009 TripleJump. This may be not be reproduced under any circumstances except for personal, private use. It may not be placed on any web site or otherwise distributed publicly without advance written permission. Use of this guide on any other web site or as a part of any public display is strictly prohibited, and a violation of copyright.