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    Limit Break Mechanics Guide by GideonD

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    Version 2.5 Current as of 05/01/2011.  (c) 2001-2011 GideonD
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    CONTENTS
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    1) Contents
    2) Disclaimer
    3) Updates
    4) Introduction
    5) Learning New Limit Breaks
       a) The Basics
       b) Strategy for Learning Limits Early
       c) Acquiring Level 4 Manuals
       d) A Glitch in the System
    6) Limit Break Mechanics Study
    7) Conclusion
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    DISCLAIMER
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    All work in this guide is original and gained through my own experience with
    the game. This guide may not be altered or posted in any way without my express 
    permission. You may of course print, view, or reproduce this guide in any other 
    way for your personal use only.
    
    You may post the guide at a personal website on the following conditions:
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    2) You must not use this guide to make any sort of profit.
    3) You must notify me that you wish to post this guide at your site. A simple
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    permission in short order. I check my email on a daily basis at the very 
    least.
    
    Addendum: Arct!c has full permission to use any of the information found in
    this guide in his own Final Fantasy VII FAQ/Walkthrough.
    
    This guide can currently be found at the following websites:
    http://www.poppameth.com (official website)
    http://www.gamefaqs.com
    http://www.neoseeker.com
    
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    UPDATES
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    v2.5: Added links to the new website http://www.poppameth.com. The online 
    version of the guide has undergone a majore facelift to make navigation much
    easier for the user. A PDF version of the guide is also available on the site.
    
    v2.4: Added Control Set of data taken from the game's memory dumps.
    
    v2.3: New website and forum information added/updated.
    
    v2.2: Just updating my email address. I got hijacked despite all precautions. I
    guess seven years of the same junk mail address isn't too bad though. Time for
    a change.
    
    v2.1: Nothing major here. Just changing links to my website since its changed 
    servers again. Find it at http://users.adelphia.net/~gideond.
    
    v2.0: A big ole whopping full point update!! I've added a second note at the 
    bottom of section 5a concerning some recent research into types of kills that do
    NOT count toward kills totals. I've added a second full set of kill/usage totals
    for reference. And lastly I've rearranged the format just a bit, though not
    likely enough to be noticeable, as well as added a few tidbits of info here and
    there.
    
    v1.5: Some minor grammar fixes and an email address that actually works. 
    Thanks to Feenyx for pointing out the typo in my email addy. Evidently it got
    screwed up when I tweaked my format and I never noticed.
    
    v1.4: Disclaimer updated. A note about the limit system has been added at the 
    end of Section 6: Limit Break Mechanics Study, to clear up a little confusion.
    
    v1.3: At the request of a few GameFAQs board users I've added a few notes on 
    learning Tifa's limits. These notes can be found at the end of Tifa's value 
    listings contained in Section 6: Limit Break Mechanics Study. 
    
    v1.2: New info added on a known glitch in the limit learning system.
    
    v1.1: New information added on how to more efficiently go about 
    accumulating the required kills and uses needed to learn new limits.
    
    v1.0: Original version.
    
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    INTRODUCTION
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    This document contains an explanation of the Final Fantasy VII Limit Break 
    System and a study on how exactly the system works. While how to use limit 
    breaks in battle is common knowledge, the process by which you gain new limit 
    breaks is often found to be in question. Even among those of us who know how 
    the basic limit gaining system works there remains much debate on the exact 
    mechanics of that familiar system. The information below is a summarized 
    version of the Limit Break Mechanics study, designed to be used as a guide
    for gaining limits breaks in your game. The full study can be found at 
    http://www.poppameth.com
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    LEARNING NEW LIMIT BREAKS
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    The Basics
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    First of all, for reference I will explain the notations I'll be using.
    
    There are 4 sets of limit breaks for most of the characters in the game. 
    Likewise, most of the characters have 2 limit breaks per level. When referring 
    to these limit breaks separately I will be using the following notation: X/Y. 
    X = the level of the limit break. Y = the number of the limit break within 
    the level indicated by X. For example the notation 2/1 would indicate the 
    first limit break in the second level or set of limit breaks.
    
    Now I will explain the basic mechanics of learning new limit breaks. 
    
    Each character in the game starts with one limit break already in his/her 
    possession. This is limit 1/1, the first limit in the first set of limits. 
    Now, to learn the next limit in that same set, limit 1/2, you simply need 
    to use the first limit of the set, limit 1/1, a certain number of times. The 
    actual number of times you need to use the first limit in a set varies from 
    character to character. This formula holds true for each set of limits. In 
    other words, to learn the second limit in any set of limits you simply use 
    the first limit in that set a certain number of times. Everyone who has a 
    4th level limit break will have only 1 limit break in the 4th level. Therefore 
    this formula is irrelevant to the level 4 limit breaks since there is no second 
    in the set. Also, certain characters, namely Vincent and Cait Sith, have only 
    one limit per level, so this formula also does not apply to these two 
    characters.
    
    Example: 
      Cloud starts the game with Braver as his 1/1 limit break. He uses Braver 
      in battle 8 times and he learns Cross-Slash, his 1/2 limit break. Likewise, 
      he would use his 2/1 limit 7 times to learn his 2/2 limit, and he would use 
      his 3/1 limit 6 times to learn his 3/2 limit. You may notice that the number 
      of times a limit needs to be used declines as the limit level increases.
    
    Now to gain the first limit break in a new set the procedure is entirely 
    different. Gaining the first limit break in a new set has nothing at all to 
    do with using previously gained limit breaks. Instead, a character must make 
    a certain number of kills to gain the first limit in a new set. What this 
    means is that the character you wish to have gain the new limit break must 
    actually deliver the killing blow to a certain number of enemies. The number 
    of enemies varies from character to character. You may deliver the killing 
    blow using almost any means possible. Details on what counts and what doesn't
    can be found below under Note 2. This formula holds true for each set of
    limits, except level 4 limits. Level 4/1 limits are taught to a character 
    by using special limit manuals found during the course of the game. These 
    manuals are items and are used from the items menu on the character whose 
    final limit the manual details. Level 4 limits may only be taught to a 
    character after that character has learned all of his/her previous limit 
    breaks. This formula applies to all characters in the game, including Vincent 
    and Cait Sith. Cait Sith, however, only has 2 sets of limit breaks and only 
    1 limit in each set, limit 1/1 and limit 2/1. Therefore he has no level 4 limit
    manual.
    
    Example: (continued from above example)
      Now that Cloud has learned Cross-Slash he simply continues to kill enemies, 
      dealing the killing blow each time. Once he has killed 115 enemies he gains 
      his 2/1 limit, Blade Beam. After using Blade Beam 7 times he learns his 2/2 
      limit, Climhazzard. Continuing to fight, Cloud kills 195 enemies and gains 
      his 3/1 limit, Meteorain. Cloud then used Meteorain 6 times and learns 
      his 3/2 limit, Finishing Touch. Cloud may now use his level 4 limit manual 
      if he has it to learn his 4/1 limit, Omnislash. 
    
    Note 1: Limits aren't always gained in exact order. If you simply go around 
    killing enemies like mad for a few hours you can learn the first limit in each 
    set before you ever learn the second limit in any of the sets. You can not 
    learn all of the second limits in each set before the first, however, because 
    you need to use the first limit in each set in order to gain the second in the 
    set.
    
    Note 2: There are some exceptions to what does and does not count toward your 
    kill total.
    1) Kills made with Odin's Steel Cutting Sword attack do NOT count.
    2) Kills made by residual poison damage, i.e. the damage taken each round, not
    the damage caused by the initial casting, do NOT count.
    3) Kills made by enemies you have manipulated do NOT count.
    4) Kills made with Death Sentence do NOT count.
    5) Kills made with the Death spell DO count.
    6) Kills made with Flash command DO count.
    Also of interest, miming your limit breaks DOES count toward the usage totals.
    It's also worth mentioning that apparently nothing you do in battle arena, be 
    it kills or uses, will count toward your totals.
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    Strategy for Learning Limits Early
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    This section details my personal method for gaining limits as quickly as 
    possible early in the game.
    
    The first thing you'll want to do is progress through the game until you reach
    the Mithril Mines. You'll want to make sure to grab the matra magic enemy skill
    along the way as well. Now usually I'll make my way through the mines to the 
    Junon area on the other side of the mountains. Here you'll find a patch of 
    forest you can use to obtain Yuffie early on. By this point you should now
    have Cloud, Barret, Aeris, Tifa, Red XIII, and Yuffie, all of whom you can now
    start acquiring limits for. That'll leave only Cait Sith, Vincent, and Cid to 
    work on later.
    
    Now you can save up and begin the limit learning process. Take three people 
    into the mine. You'll want to go to a specific room. To find this room, enter
    the mines from the Junon(western) entrance and head north on the first screen 
    on the mine. In this room you will always fight enemies in groups of 4-5.
    
    From this point forward it's quite simple. Simply have the person you are 
    trying to gain limits for use matra magic to slaughter these large groups of
    enemies. If you missed getting matra magic on the Enemy Skill materia, then 
    you can use a multi-target magic instead although they tend to cost more MP to
    cast. This will quickly net you the kills you need to gain the ?/1 limits.
    
    Use your limits whenever they come up to get you closer to the needed uses.  
    By the time you are done with learning the ?/1 limits you'll still be working
    on the ?/2 limits in most cases. At this point you'll want to start looking 
    for a specific enemy. This enemy comes with a group of 3 other enemies and is 
    basically a flying dragon with fairy wings. I believe he's called an Arc 
    Dragon. He has the flamethrower enemy skill, which you'll want to pick up.  
    When he uses this skill on you it'll also deal a good bit of damage at this
    point of the game, which means it's about the quickest way to fill up your 
    limit gauge and get the needed uses to learn your ?/2 limits. It's also a good
    idea to use a hyper on your people. This will put them in Fury status and as 
    a side effect their limit meter will fill up twice as fast as normal. You may 
    also want to equip Cover materia to the person you are working on to help 
    direct most attacks at that person and fill his/her meter more quickly. I've 
    never really bothered with Cover myself, but a few people have pointed out that
    I didn't mention it so I thought I'd add a note about it. You may find it more
    useful if you let it build up to a higher level before working on learning 
    your limits.
    
    Just repeat these steps to learn limits for all of the people you currently 
    have in party and then switch to the others to learn theirs. You can come back
    later to learn limits for the other 3 characters and it'll be even easier since
    Vincent and Cait Sith only require kills, and Cid's uses can be gotten easier
    since you'll have the manipulate materia and can target flamethrower on Cid 
    only.
    
    By the time I left the Mithril Mines for Fort Condor, I had all the limits up
    through level 3/2 for all 6 of the people I had. As an added bonus they were
    all about level 30 and I had 99 hi-potions in inventory since the enemies in
    the mines tend to drop those a lot.
    
    Happy hunting!!
    
    Note: For more strategies on learning limits at different points of the game
    please visit the Limit Break Mechanics page at my website where I'll soon be 
    posting some user submitted strategies.
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    Acquiring Level 4 Manuals
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    Now just for reference I'll give a brief run through on where to find 
    everyone's level 4 limit manuals and how to get them.
    
    Cloud Strife:
    You gain the Omnislash manual for Cloud in the Gold Saucer Battle Square. 
    You'll need to take plenty of gold with you, at least 200 to be safe, and fight
    until you earn 32,000 battle points. You can then buy the manual as an item. 
    If you do this on disk 1 I've been told the price for the manual is about 
    51,200, so I recommend you wait until disk 2 or 3. You don't really need 
    Omnislash any earlier anyway.
    
    Barret Wallace:
    You can get the Catastrophe manual for Barret any time after stopping the train
    in Corel on disk 2. Once this part of the game is done, enter the house 
    closest to the inn on the upper tier. There is a lady inside who says something
    about her late husband and will give you a memento of the man, which is the 
    Catastrophe manual.
    
    Tifa Lockheart:
    Tifa's Final Heaven manual can be gained on disk 2 or later, anytime after 
    getting Cloud back from his coma. You simply return to Nibelheim with Tifa in 
    your party, and make your way to her room in her house. You want to play the 
    piano there. You'll need to remember the tune you played in the flashback. If 
    you can't recall, it goes like this: X, Square, Triangle, R1 + Triangle, 
    R1 + Square, X, Square, Triangle, R1 + X, O, X, Square, X. If you did it 
    correctly she should say something about having the sheet music for the song 
    and you'll also get her Final Heaven manual.
    
    Aeris Gainsborough:
    This one is a bit tricky to get. It has to be done on disk 1 if you actually 
    intend to teach it to her so I'm writing this assuming you will be trying for 
    it on disk 1. Okay, to get Aeris's Great Gospel manual you'll first need to 
    wait until you have the buggy, just after the Corel Prison sequence. Once the 
    buggy is in your possession, drive it into Costa del Sol. Note: do not get off 
    the buggy before entering town, just drive it right on in. Now head to the 
    docks and talk to the sailor by the cargo ship. He'll let you ride the ship 
    back to Junon for 100 gil. When you get to Junon leave town and you'll discover 
    you've brought the buggy along with you. You now want to head north east to the
    river. There is a shallow spot you can cross using the buggy. Do so and head 
    east until you find a cave entrance. Inside the cave you will find a sleeping 
    old man. He won't talk to you much until you battle a certain number of times.
    The trick is to make the last two digits of the number of battles you fought 
    match. For example, when you've fought 33 battles or 244 battle he will talk to
    you since the last 2 digits match. Just fight outside of his cave until you 
    get a number that works. When you talk to him again he will give you an item, 
    sometimes it's a Bolt ring and sometimes it's Mythril. You are after the 
    Mythril. If he gives you a Bolt ring just go outside and fight 11 more battles
    to get to the next number of fights that puts your last 2 digits at the same
    number. For example if you have fought 22 times and he gives you a Bolt Ring
    go out and fight 11 more times. You'll now have 33 fights and he'll talk to 
    you again. Just keep doing this until you get the Mythril. He will give you a 
    Bolt Ring when the matching numbers are even and a Mythril when they are odd.
    
    Now you can proceed with the game until you get to Rocket Town. Once you go 
    through the Rocket Town sequence you'll have Cid as a party member and you'll 
    also have use of the Tiny Bronco. Take the Tiny Bronco to Nibelheim. Once there
    use the plane to travel up the river and across the continent. You should come
    out near Gold Saucer. Near the end of the river you'll see a little house on
    your right. This house was previously unoccupied, but now you can get off the
    plane and go inside. The guy inside will talk about the keystone for a bit. 
    When you get the chance tell him to change the subject and he'll talk about the
    weapons he makes and having a shortage of mythril. Give him the mythril and 
    he'll reward you by letting you pick a chest as a prize. Go up the stairs to 
    the top floor and go all the way left. Open the little box on the wall to 
    receive the Great Gospel manual. The big box on the lower floor just contains 
    a Gold Armlet.
    
    Red XIII:
    You get Red XIII's Cosmos Memory pretty early in the game, on disk 1. The first
    time you get to Nibelheim you'll be heading to the Shinra mansion. You'll need
    to open the safe on the 2nd floor to get the Odin materia and the basement key
    that you'll need to find Vincent. When you open the safe you'll fight a boss 
    called the Lost Number. For winning this fight you'll receive the Cosmos Memory
    manual.
    
    Yuffie Kisaragi:
    You can get Yuffie's All Creation Manual as early as disk 1 when you have the 
    Tiny Bronco. Simply travel to Wutai and challenge the masters of the Pagoda. 
    Once you beat the last boss, who is Godo, Yuffie's father, you'll receive the
    Leviathan summon and the All Creation Manual.
    
    Cait Sith:
    He has no level 4 limit break and therefore no manual to teach it to him.
    
    Vincent Valentine:
    You can get Vincent's Chaos manual as soon as you gain access to the submarine.
    Simply put him in your party and then take the sub to the river mouth north of
    Cost del Sol. Make sure not to miss it altogether. Dive underwater and look 
    for a small cave entrance. Just follow the path until you come to a circular 
    room. Surface and you'll be in a small lake. You can dock the sub on the side 
    and go into a cave hidden behind the waterfall. You'll see a flashback sequence 
    with Vincent here. Once its over leave the area, and go somewhere that you can 
    fight. I suggest the Gold Saucer area since it's the closest sub dock. After 
    you've fought at least 10 times return to the cave where he had his flashback 
    and you'll receive the Chaos manual and his final weapon, the Death Penalty.
    When looking for the undewater tunnel be aware that it branches off of the 
    tunnel that leads you to the Key of Ancients. You can also use a green, black
    or gold chocobo to do this in place of the sub.
    
    Cid Highwind:
    Cid's Highwind manual is easy to get. Once you have the sub travel to the Gold 
    Saucer sub dock. Now you want to dive underwater. There will be the wreckage of
    a cargo plane nearby. You can find all kinds of goodies in this plane, called 
    the Gelnika. One of the chests in the cargo room contains the Highwind manual.
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    A Glitch in the System
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    There is a known glitch in the limit break system that can cause some major 
    problems with your game. This glitch generally does one of two things.
    
    1) When you start a new game sometimes this glitch will occur. When this 
    happens you will find that instead of starting out with just your 1/1 limit 
    break your character(s) will have all limit breaks already learned. This may 
    appear as a wonderful occurrence at first but don't count it as a blessing just
    yet. I'm not sure what ramifications if any this has later in the game. It's 
    possible this could screw a few things up later on, such as getting Final 
    Attack from Battle Arena since you need to buy Omnislash and teach it to Cloud 
    as one of the requirements to access the special battle. You can't exactly 
    teach it to him if he already knows it and I'm not sure if the game will count 
    it or not. I haven't had this glitch happen to me so I'm not sure if this would
    really happen but it definitely seems possible. Anyone who has learned 
    omnislash via GameShark will know that the game doesn't count it when you try 
    to access the special battle, so it's quite possible the game won't count the 
    glitch either. If anyone knows for certain that there are problems caused by 
    this glitch please let me know so I can list them here.
    
    2) The second occurrence of the glitch can be even more frustrating. Have you 
    ever learned all of a character's limits except the last one and then tried to
    use his/her manual but the game still won't let you learn the level 4 limit? 
    Well that would be the glitch coming into play again. Once again I haven't had
    this happen to me, but I know a few people who have, and by all reports they've
    never found a way to fix the problem short of starting a new game. Basically 
    you just have to start all over or just keep playing without use of the level 4
    limit for the character(s) that this happens to.
    
    Those are the two most common results of the glitch. There are a few other that
    I've heard of but I don't know for certain if there is any truth to them, never
    having personally witnessed them. I'll list them anyway for reference.
    
    1) You can't learn limits at all. You get stuck with your 1/1 limit for the 
    entire game no matter how many times you meet the requirements to learn the new
    limits.
    
    2) Learning a new limit gets delayed. You make the required number of kills or 
    uses to get the next limit but you still don't learn it. Then later on, 
    sometimes after learning the limits after the one that wouldn't work, you'll 
    suddenly learn the limit you missed for no apparent reason.
    
    Well that's all I can tell you on that topic. This glitch is known to happen, 
    but fortunately it doesn't seem to happen very often. I've played through FF7 a
    total of 13 times so far and I've never had any of it happen to me. Just hope
    you are as lucky as I've been.
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    LIMIT BREAK MECHANICS STUDY
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    Below are charts of the actual statistics each character needs to gain limits, 
    that is the number of times each limit needs to be used and the number of 
    kills each character must make. This section will be updated as more people 
    submit their data. I will begin with a control set of data pulled from the 
    game's memory dumps, and continue with my own personal game data. The entire 
    point of this study was to compare statistics to see if the numbers needed 
    are preset or at least somewhat random. It has since been proven that the 
    numbers are hardcoded into the game without allowance for variation. However, 
    often times you'll notice discrepancies. I personally believe this is due to 
    some glitchiness in the programming.
    
    The values below are approximate, not exact.
    
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    Cloud Strife
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    Limit 1/1: Braver         | Used 8 times to learn Limit 1/2: Cross-Slash
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    Limit 1/2: Cross-Slash    | 120 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Blade Beam
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    Limit 2/1: Blade Beam     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Climhazzard
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    Limit 2/2: Climhazzard    | 200 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Meteorain
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    Limit 3/1: Meteorain      | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Finishing Touch
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    Limit 3/2: Finishing Touch| Omnislash manual used to teach Limit 4/1: Omnislash
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    Limit 4/1: Omnislash      | All limits learned.
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    Barret Wallace
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    Limit 1/1: Big Shot       | Used 9 times to learn Limit 1/2: Mind Blow
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    Limit 1/2: Mind Blow      | 80 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Grenade Bomb
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    Limit 2/1: Grenade Bomb   | Used 8 times to learn Limit 2/2: Hammerblow
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    Limit 2/2: Hammerblow     | 80 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Satellite Beam
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    Limit 3/1: Satellite Beam | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Ungermax
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    Limit 3/2: Ungermax       | Catastrophe manual use to teach 
                              | Limit 4/1: Catastrophe
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    Limit 4/1: Catastrophe   | All limits learned.
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    Tifa Lockheart
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    Limit 1/1: Beat Rush      | Used 9 times to learn Limit 1/2: Somersault
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    Limit 1/2: Somersault     | 96 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Water Kick 
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    Limit 2/1: Water Kick     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Meteodrive 
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    Limit 2/2: Meteodrive     | 96 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Dolphin Blow  
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    Limit 3/1: Dolphin Blow   | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Meteor Strike
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    Limit 3/2: Meteor Strike  | Final Heaven manual used to teach
                              | Limit 4/1: Final Heaven 
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    Limit 4/1: Final Heaven   | All limits learned.
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    Special Note:             | There has been a bit of confusion on the hit, miss,
                              | and yeah options on Tifa's reels. You MUST score a
                              | hit or yeah in order for it to count toward her
                              | usage total. A miss will not count. Example: lets
                              | say you've done a lot of killing with her but you
                              | haven't been using her limits. So you've only 
                              | learned her 1/1, 2/1, and 3/1 limits. In battle you
                              | use her break and you score a hit on 1/1, a miss on 
                              | 2/1, and a yeah on 3/1. If you are working on her 
                              | 1/2 limit then the hit for 1/1 will count, but if 
                              | you are working on her 2/2 limit the miss you got 
                              | on her 2/1 will not count toward her usage tally.
                              | Also of note, you MUST have her limit set to the
                              | level you are trying to learn the */2 limit for.
                              | Using the same example above, you can't just set 
                              | your limit level to level 3 and expect to gain all
                              | her */2 limits by using them all at once. You'll 
                              | only gain her 3/2 limit. To learn her 1/2 or 2/2
                              | you'll have to set her back to level 1 or 2
                              | respectively and use those */1 limits while set to
                              | the correct level.
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    Aeris Gainsborough
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    Limit 1/1: Healing Wind   | Used 8 times to learn Limit 1/2: Seal Evil 
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    Limit 1/2: Seal Evil      | 80 kills made to learn 
                              | Limit 2/1: Breath of the Earth
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    Limit 2/1: Breath of the  | Used 6 times to learn Limit 2/2: Fury Brand   
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    Limit 2/2: Fury Brand     | 80 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Planet Protector
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    Limit 3/1: Planet         | Used 5 times to learn Limit 3/2: Pulse of Life
    Protector                 |
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    Limit 3/2: Pulse of Life  | Great Gospel manual used to teach 
                              | Limit 4/1: Great Gospel 
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    Limit 4/1: Great Gospel   | All limits learned.
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    Red XIII
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    Limit 1/1: Sled Fang      | Used 8 times to learn Limit 1/2: Lunatic High 
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    Limit 1/2: Lunatic High   | 72 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Blood Fang 
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    Limit 2/1: Blood Fang     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Stardust Ray 
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    Limit 2/2: Stardust Ray   | 72 kills made to learn Limit 3/1 Howling Moon  
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    Limit 3/1 Howling Moon    | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Earth Rave 
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    Limit 3/2: Earth Rave     | Cosmos Memory manual used to teach
                              | Limit 4/1: Cosmos Memory
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    Limit 4/1: Cosmos Memory  | All limits learned.
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    Yuffie Kisaragi
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    Limit 1/1: Greased        | Used 8 times to learn Limit 1/2: Clear Tranquil
    Lightning                 | 
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    Limit 1/2: Clear Tranquil | 64 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Landscaper 
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    Limit 2/1: Landscaper     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Bloodfest  
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    Limit 2/2: Bloodfest      | 64 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Gauntlet   
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    Limit 3/1: Gauntlet       | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Doom of the Living
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    Limit 3/2: Doom of the    | All Creation Manual used to teach
    Living                    | Limit 4/1: All Creation 
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    Limit 4/1: All Creation   | All limits learned.
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    Cait Sith
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    Limit 1/1: Dice           | 40 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Slots
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Slots          | All limits learned.
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    Vincent Valentine
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    Limit 1/1: Galiant Beast  | 40 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Death Gigas 
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    Limit 2/1: Death Gigas    | 56 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Hellmasker 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Hellmasker     | Chaos manual used to learn Limit 4/1: Chaos 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Chaos          | All limits learned.
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    Cid Highwind
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    Limit 1/1: Boost Jump     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 1/2: Dynamite
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/2: Dynamite       | 60 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Hyper Jump
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Hyper Jump     | Used 6 times to learn Limit 2/2: Dragon 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/2: Dragon         | 76 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Dragon Dive
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Dragon Dive    | Used 5 times to learn Limit 3/2: Big Brawl
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Big Brawl      | Highwind manual used to teach Limit 4/1: Highwind
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Highwind       | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
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    Manual Count 1            |
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    Submitted by GideonD|North American Greatest Hits Version|Counted by 3 People
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    Cloud Strife
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    Limit 1/1: Braver         | Used 8 times to learn Limit 1/2: Cross-Slash
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    Limit 1/2: Cross-Slash    | 115 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Blade Beam
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    Limit 2/1: Blade Beam     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Climhazzard
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    Limit 2/2: Climhazzard    | 195 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Meteorain
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    Limit 3/1: Meteorain      | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Finishing Touch
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    Limit 3/2: Finishing Touch| Omnislash manual used to teach Limit 4/1: Omnislash
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Omnislash      | All limits learned.
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    Barret Wallace
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    Limit 1/1: Big Shot       | Used 9 times to learn Limit 1/2: Mind Blow
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    Limit 1/2: Mind Blow      | 80 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Grenade Bomb
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    Limit 2/1: Grenade Bomb   | Used 8 times to learn Limit 2/2: Hammerblow
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    Limit 2/2: Hammerblow     | 70 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Satellite Beam
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    Limit 3/1: Satellite Beam | Used 7 times to learn Limit 3/2: Ungermax
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Ungermax       | Catastrophe manual use to teach 
                              | Limit 4/1: Catastrophe
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    Limit 4/1: Catastrophe   | All limits learned.
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    Tifa Lockheart
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    Limit 1/1: Beat Rush      | Used 9 times to learn Limit 1/2: Somersault
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    Limit 1/2: Somersault     | 96 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Water Kick 
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    Limit 2/1: Water Kick     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Meteodrive 
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    Limit 2/2: Meteodrive     | 96 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Dolphin Blow  
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Dolphin Blow   | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Meteor Strike
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Meteor Strike  | Final Heaven manual used to teach
                              | Limit 4/1: Final Heaven 
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    Limit 4/1: Final Heaven   | All limits learned.
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    Special Note:             | There has been a bit of confusion on the hit, miss,
                              | and yeah options on Tifa's reels. You MUST score a
                              | hit or yeah in order for it to count toward her
                              | usage total. A miss will not count. Example: lets
                              | say you've done a lot of killing with her but you
                              | haven't been using her limits. So you've only 
                              | learned her 1/1, 2/1, and 3/1 limits. In battle you
                              | use her break and you score a hit on 1/1, a miss on 
                              | 2/1, and a yeah on 3/1. If you are working on her 
                              | 1/2 limit then the hit for 1/1 will count, but if 
                              | you are working on her 2/2 limit the miss you got 
                              | on her 2/1 will not count toward her usage tally.
                              | Also of note, you MUST have her limit set to the
                              | level you are trying to learn the */2 limit for.
                              | Using the same example above, you can't just set 
                              | your limit level to level 3 and expect to gain all
                              | her */2 limits by using them all at once. You'll 
                              | only gain her 3/2 limit. To learn her 1/2 or 2/2
                              | you'll have to set her back to level 1 or 2
                              | respectively and use those */1 limits while set to
                              | the correct level.
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    Aeris Gainsborough
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    Limit 1/1: Healing Wind   | Used 7 times to learn Limit 1/2: Seal Evil 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/2: Seal Evil      | 80 kills made to learn 
                              | Limit 2/1: Breath of the Earth
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    Limit 2/1: Breath of the  | Used 6 times to learn Limit 2/2: Fury Brand   
    Earth                     |
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    Limit 2/2: Fury Brand     | 80 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Planet Protector
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Planet         | Used 5 times to learn Limit 3/2: Pulse of Life
    Protector                 |
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    Limit 3/2: Pulse of Life  | Great Gospel manual used to teach 
                              | Limit 4/1: Great Gospel 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Great Gospel   | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Red XIII
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    Limit 1/1: Sled Fang      | Used 8 times to learn Limit 1/2: Lunatic High 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/2: Lunatic High   | 70 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Blood Fang 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Blood Fang     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Stardust Ray 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/2: Stardust Ray   | 70 kills made to learn Limit 3/1 Howling Moon  
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1 Howling Moon    | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Earth Rave 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Earth Rave     | Cosmos Memory manual used to teach
                              | Limit 4/1: Cosmos Memory
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Cosmos Memory  | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Yuffie Kisaragi
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    Limit 1/1: Greased        | Used 8 times to learn Limit 1/2: Clear Tranquil
    Lightning                 | 
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    Limit 1/2: Clear Tranquil | 63 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Landscaper 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Landscaper     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Bloodfest  
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/2: Bloodfest      | 63 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Gauntlet   
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Gauntlet       | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Doom of the Living
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Doom of the    | All Creation Manual used to teach
    Living                    | Limit 4/1: All Creation 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: All Creation   | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Cait Sith
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    Limit 1/1: Dice           | 40 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Slots
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Slots          | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Vincent Valentine
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    Limit 1/1: Galiant Beast  | 42 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Death Gigas 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Death Gigas    | 52 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Hellmasker 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Hellmasker     | Chaos manual used to learn Limit 4/1: Chaos 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Chaos          | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Cid Highwind
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    Limit 1/1: Boost Jump     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 1/2: Dynamite
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/2: Dynamite       | 60 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Hyper Jump
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Hyper Jump     | Used 6 times to learn Limit 2/2: Dragon 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/2: Dragon         | 80 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Dragon Dive
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Dragon Dive    | Used 5 times to learn Limit 3/2: Big Brawl
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Big Brawl      | Highwind manual used to teach Limit 4/1: Highwind
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Highwind       | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    The following information is a second set of results that I've counted just as
    thoroughly as the first. You'll note that not all the totals are the same but
    they are generally very close. I'm still trying to figure out why the totals
    don't seem to stay exact from one playthough to the next. I'm still guessing 
    the game just isn't counting correctly.
    
    ---------------------------
    Manual Count 2            |
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    Submitted by GideonD|North American Greatest Hits Version|Counted by 3 People
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    Cloud Strife
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    Limit 1/1: Braver         | Used 8 times to learn Limit 1/2: Cross-Slash
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/2: Cross-Slash    | 120 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Blade Beam
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Blade Beam     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Climhazzard
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/2: Climhazzard    | 200 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Meteorain
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Meteorain      | Used 5 times to learn Limit 3/2: Finishing Touch
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Finishing Touch| Omnislash manual used to teach Limit 4/1: Omnislash
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Omnislash      | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Barret Wallace
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    Limit 1/1: Big Shot       | Used 9 times to learn Limit 1/2: Mind Blow
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/2: Mind Blow      | 80 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Grenade Bomb
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Grenade Bomb   | Used 8 times to learn Limit 2/2: Hammerblow
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/2: Hammerblow     | 80 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Satellite Beam
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Satellite Beam | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Ungermax
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Ungermax       | Catastrophe manual use to teach 
                              | Limit 4/1: Catastrophe
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Catastrophe   | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Tifa Lockheart
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    Limit 1/1: Beat Rush      | Used 9 times to learn Limit 1/2: Somersault
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/2: Somersault     | 94 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Water Kick 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Water Kick     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Meteodrive 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/2: Meteodrive     | 94 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Dolphin Blow  
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Dolphin Blow   | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Meteor Strike
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Meteor Strike  | Final Heaven manual used to teach
                              | Limit 4/1: Final Heaven 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Final Heaven   | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Aeris Gainsborough
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    Limit 1/1: Healing Wind   | Used 9 times to learn Limit 1/2: Seal Evil 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/2: Seal Evil      | 80 kills made to learn 
                              | Limit 2/1: Breath of the Earth
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Breath of the  | Used 6 times to learn Limit 2/2: Fury Brand   
    Earth                     |
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    Limit 2/2: Fury Brand     | 80 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Planet Protector
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Planet         | Used 5 times to learn Limit 3/2: Pulse of Life
    Protector                 |
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Pulse of Life  | Great Gospel manual used to teach 
                              | Limit 4/1: Great Gospel 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Great Gospel   | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Red XIII
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    Limit 1/1: Sled Fang      | Used 8 times to learn Limit 1/2: Lunatic High 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/2: Lunatic High   | 72 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Blood Fang 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Blood Fang     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Stardust Ray 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/2: Stardust Ray   | 72 kills made to learn Limit 3/1 Howling Moon  
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1 Howling Moon    | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Earth Rave 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Earth Rave     | Cosmos Memory manual used to teach
                              | Limit 4/1: Cosmos Memory
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Cosmos Memory  | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Yuffie Kisaragi
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/1: Greased        | Used 8 times to learn Limit 1/2: Clear Tranquil
    Lightning                 | 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/2: Clear Tranquil | 64 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Landscaper 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Landscaper     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 2/2: Bloodfest  
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/2: Bloodfest      | 64 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Gauntlet   
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Gauntlet       | Used 6 times to learn Limit 3/2: Doom of the Living
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Doom of the    | All Creation Manual used to teach
    Living                    | Limit 4/1: All Creation 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: All Creation   | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Cait Sith
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/1: Dice           | 40 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Slots
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Slots          | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Vincent Valentine
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/1: Galiant Beast  | 42 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Death Gigas 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Death Gigas    | 54 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Hellmasker 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Hellmasker     | Chaos manual used to learn Limit 4/1: Chaos 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Chaos          | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Cid Highwind
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/1: Boost Jump     | Used 7 times to learn Limit 1/2: Dynamite
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 1/2: Dynamite       | 60 kills made to learn Limit 2/1: Hyper Jump
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/1: Hyper Jump     | Used 6 times to learn Limit 2/2: Dragon 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 2/2: Dragon         | 80 kills made to learn Limit 3/1: Dragon Dive
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/1: Dragon Dive    | Used 5 times to learn Limit 3/2: Big Brawl
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 3/2: Big Brawl      | Highwind manual used to teach Limit 4/1: Highwind
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Limit 4/1: Highwind       | All limits learned.
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Note 1: There has been a bit of confusion on the kill tally for the characters
    so I'll attempt to clear that up. 
    
    Firstly the kill tally keeps counting no matter what. If you learn Hyper Jump 
    for Cid after making 60 kills then the kill tally immediately starts counting 
    the next 80 kills to get Dragon Dive. You don't have to wait until you learn 
    Dragon before the kill tally starts counting again. As I mentioned in the first
    part of the guide, learning */1 limits is completely independent of learning */2
    limits though the reverse of that isn't true.
    
    Secondly when I say a character needs a certain amount of kills to learn his
    2/1 limit and then a certain amount to learn his 3/1 limit I don't mean those
    numbers as totals. They are individual counts. So for example if Cloud makes 
    115 kills to learn Blade Beam he needs an additional 195 kills to learn 
    Meteorian for a total of 310 kills. Several people have viewed this to mean he
    needs 115 kills to learn Blade Beam and then another 80 kills to learn 
    Meteorian for a total of 195 kills. That's not the way it works I'm afraid. If 
    you are counting kills, when you learn the first limit you are counting toward,
    then start counting all over again to get the second value I have listed.
    
    I hope that clears up the confusion. It's easy when you think about it but 
    trying to phrase it so people who aren't as familiar with the system can 
    understand it can be a real challenge. If it's still unclear drop me an email 
    and I'll try to straighten it out a bit more.
    
    Section Complete
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    CONCLUSION
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    Well that concludes my Limit Break Mechanics Guide. Due to various requests of
    GameFAQs board users this is no longer an Alpha copy and will probably remain a
    work in progress till the day I die and Nanaki's children continue my work. 
    Please note that you just viewed a live example of sarcasm. Take a photo.
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