Knife Guide by simonhawke

Version: 1.2 | Updated: 03/31/07 | Printable Version

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Battlefield2 Knife Guide ( a SimonSays Guide )
By |CBW|Simon

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Version 1.2
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Copyright 2007 |CBW| The Canadian Black Watch Clan

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Table of contents
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+: Message from the author
+: Authors knife stats
+: Contributions
+: History of this Guide
1: Introduction
2: Control Basics and Tips
3: Knife Situations
4: Missing with the Knife
5: Best Kit for Knife
6 :Knife Duel
7 :Knife Against Guns
8 :Knife Maps
9 :Knife Pistol servers
13:Common Questions
14:Servers I play on
16:Thank You

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Message from |CBW|Simon
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I often use google searches, forums and movie links to learn new or
alternative tactics in Battlefield2. Many times I have come across
the requests for help with the knife badge but I have never found a
complete knife guide.  I thought that by writing this guide, it would
allow me to learn more about other player’s tactics when they write
in to either dispute my methods or report an obvious exclusion.

I remember when I set off one weekend to get my basic knife badge
and managed to get it in my first attempt by use of stealth.  
During the game, my adrenaline was running high and I was excited
and on edge the entire round.  Once I completed my goal and the round,
I wanted to relax and not go through that intense game again for a
bit.  I focused on some other weapons and didn't get back to the
knife for a couple of weeks.  Once I got back to the knife and
focused on more kills for my veterans and expert badges I found that
I was almost the only one I would see consistently knifing a person
or three each round.  The excitement is still there, but I'm used to
it now and it doesn't wear me out by keeping me on the edge of my
seat.  There are probably thousands of people that can do better with
the knife than I, but since they haven't written a guide, you are
stuck with me.

I am glad to take this opportunity to give something back to the BF2
community that has provided me with so much fun over the past few
months.  I dedicate this guide to the people out there who help
others, be it by guides or forum posts.  Also, to all the people who
have had to tolerate my battle cry on team speak of "Taste my blade!"

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|CBW|Simon's current knife stats
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5/21/06 - Basic
6/28/06 - Veterans
7/2/06 - Expert
7/26/06 - 300
3/31/07 - 803

Player ID 68617844

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As previously stated, there are probably thousands of people that
can do better with the knife than I.  Also, I may not remember
everything I know or have learned.  If you have an idea and email
it to me, I will review it and consider adding it to the guide
(with proper credit to you).  If you have questions of knife
situations, I will try to answer them individually. If they keep
coming up, I will add them to the guide.

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History of this Guide
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Created: 7/27/06
Update: 9/22/06 Release V:1.0
Update: 11/12/06 Release V:1.1 
Last Update: 3/31/07 Release V:1.2

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Whats New 
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1.1 : Added Whats new section
Added UAV section to knife situations.  Codenamed Cerebro
Added suggestions for combat zone.  Codenamed You Are My Density
1.2 : Modified web addresses to match current whereabouts
changed date on copywrite info
Added Flash Bang to knife situations. Codenamed Walk Into The Light

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- 1) Introduction      -
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This guide is for the Battlefield 2 player that wants to learn to
use the knife effectively.  We all know that the pointy end goes
in the enemy, but in this guide you will be shown how to shop for
targets of opportunity and to become lethal in close quarters
situations.  The tips in this guide can be used to help you achieve
the Basic Knife Badge as well as the Veteran and Expert Badges, but
for some of you, this guide will change a small part of the focus
of your play.  You will be a knife player.  Some would say this is
one of the extremely hated player types, as what you will learn to
do take skill, daring and stealth. Being knifed is one of the more
shameful things that can happen to a player in game ranking second
only to being paddled by a medic.

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- 2) Your Knife Controls   -
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It is no mistake that your knife control is default tied to the 1
key.  Think about it.  The weapon kills in one hit, body armor or
not.  The weapon needs no reloading and is instantly ready.  Every
single kit comes with the knife.  The 1 key is fitting but if you
want to really be ready for all situations, get a mouse with a few
extra buttons on it and assign one of them to be the alternate
weapon key for the knife.  My own Mx518 gaming mouse from Logitech
is set up to pull the knife, pistol, gas mask and also changes my
mouse sensitivity so I can alter the mouse when I'm in a tank (very
sensitive) or if I'm the gunner in a chopper (very slow and steady). 

The quick pull has allowed me to survive many meeting when I run
out of ammo, or just allowed me to alter my plans when a knife
opportunity presents itself.

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- 3) Knife Use Situations  -
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What are great knife situations?  Any situation you have a high
chance of killing your opponent without him even realizing you are

Your fly is open:  There are many times you will see the oblivious
solo enemy perhaps wrench repairing a tank, or command asset, or
even a singular enemy using the sparrow missile emplacements
looking for a helicopter.  You can shoot these people, and if we
are talking about a distance that will take you 10 or 15 seconds
to run, but this is where your knife is crying for blood.  They
are focused on a task and are deserving of a blade shaped reality

I'm late, I'm late:  There is the enemy player that runs past your
cover and continues on, unaware of you.  A bullet may get you two
points, but a knife kill gets you the same points and a sense of
accomplishment.  They make it easy on you and most of the time run
in a straight line and then stop and lie down to fire at some
target off in the distance.

The wolf in sheep’s clothing:  If you see several enemy bodies
and you hear one cry "Medic" (I have my English only speak
enabled) then lie down IN the bodies, letting them mask your
presence.  When the medic comes, wait for the revive, and then
kill them both.  Be careful not to get paddled.

Back door Susie:  Ever come around a corner to find two or more
enemy engaged in a firefight facing away from you?  Nothing is
more impressive than sticking two or three people in under three
seconds in front of witnesses.

I'm Batman (BF2 Special Forces):  Snipers love to go up ladders
or stairways and lay claymores at the entrance to their lair.  
Use the grapple of the AntiTank or Assault and let them figure
out how you got up and snuck in behind them and stuck them.

I'm Spiderman (BF2 Special Forces):  Much like the Batman in
reverse.  You see enemy below you and you use your zip line to
swoop in behind them and put yourself in position for the Back
door Susie.

Avon Calling:  I have had a couple of situations where I spawn
into a point and notice two or more enemy on the flag.  You may
already spawn on top of them and if you move fast enough, they
will hesitate to shoot at you if you move in-between them. 
Twice in my life, I have repelled a three person flag attack with
the knife.  Without having to reload, nor hit more than once, it
was the only way other than a grenade that I could have done it.  
The added advantage that they are probably sitting still and prone
on the flag helps. 

Cerebro:  With any map, there will be UAV times.  Use the UAV
runs as they occur to map out where your potential targets are. 
Think like them too.  If you see two targets moving to a friendly
flag, that may be where you want to spawn next if you happen to
die soon.   If you see a stationary blip in a spot you know to be a
great sniper nest, you may have a setup for a Back door Susie. 
Watch the UAV runs and keep a situational awareness of where
these little red dots are, where they are going or if they are planted.
Don't be afraid to request UAV.  You need to be a Squad Leader to
do that and use your default T key to get the SL commo rose.

You Are My Density:  If you are looking for the basic knife badge,
you want to go to areas of dense enemy activity and tight combat
quarters. You do not want to be in the middle of it, but preferrably
coming up from behind.  You may want to hitch a ride with a chopper
heading to a spot but going over enemy territory, or possibly take a
boat or fast attack vehicle the long way around to approach from
behind.  You may think about being a Special Operations and
blowing up the enemy UAV specifically so you can be as undetected
as possible.  If you are hunting for awards then the situation and a
really good day are all you need.  Don't go to low traffic areas and
wait for the action to come to you.  You will burn too much time and
lose your chance of getting the necessary kills in a round.

Walk Into The Light:  If you know you are entering a room with a
high chance of having enemy troops around, toss in a flash/bang
from your Assault kit first.  The blinding light lasts for 10 to 15
seconds.  If you are lucky, three or four enemies will be wandering
around totally blind.  Add a knife to the mix and hilarity will

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- 4) Knife Miss - Issues  -
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Some people tell me that they try to knife someone and they see and
hear the hit, but the other person lives.  I have to describe to
you what is happening here.  Sometimes you will fight people and
disparity between your pings may be large.  You at a ping of 122
and the opponent at a ping of 10.  Your opponent will appear to be
three places in programming language.  The first place is where he
see's himself and this gets reported to the server.  The second
place is where you see him and this is from what the server reports
to you.  The third place is somewhere in the middle, where the
server currently sees them to be.  If on your computer, it appears
you hit him, you will see the hit and hear it as these graphics are
a function of your computer.  As it turns out, he wasn't in knife
range though so he continues on his merry way probably completely
oblivious to your attack as he won’t hear or feel the hit that you
saw.  Try again.  the bigger the disparity, the larger the difference
of where he really is.  When stationary, this isn't important, but on
moving targets, it is.  Remember that the first attack may not kill
when you are attacking a moving target.  Plan for the miss and the
continuation of the chase and follow-through attack.

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- 5) What is the best kit to use  -
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For every player and for every map, this will be a different answer.
Use your kit and the map surroundings to your advantage.  If there is
plenty of foliage cover, be a Sniper with the ghillie suit and use the
cover to sneak up and kill your targets.  If there is no cover and you
are taking fire at odd times, use the Support or Assault kits as you
will have some body armor.  In Special forces, remember that the Batman
or Spiderman are very kit oriented attacks and require the grapple or
zip lines.

In specific cases, you can also use mines from the Engineer kit to
protect you from Tanks and APC's or claymores from the Sniper kit to
prevent being someone else's Back door Susie.

After a while, you will find that no matter what kit you have chosen,
that the knife situations will present themselves, so don't hesitate
to experiment with whatever works best for you.

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- 6) Knife Duel  -
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There comes a time when you try to knife someone and he runs out of
ammo while trying to shoot you.  Also, he may realize you are trying
for a knife kill and offer you mano y mano combat.  If he also pulls
out his knife then you have some choices to make as to whether or not
you just shoot him.  I hope you choose to go through and fight it out
Thunderdome style.  Bob, weave and jump.  Feign forward, backward and
thrust.  Of all my knife kills, I have been offered honorable combat
once or twice so far.  I remember those situations to this day where
as I normally don't remember many specific instance in a days worth of
BF2 gaming.

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- 7) Knife Against Gun    -
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Up close, the knife vs gun debate is a hot issue.  My own personal
feelings are that I've missed too many people up close with the gun
because the person didn't sit still and let me kill them and I wasn't
able to hit them more than once or twice before they shot me. 
Personally, I would prefer to dance with them and let them take pot
shots at me while I move in for the blade kill.  This gives them an
adrenaline rush that will work in your favor.  I have seen people time
and time again overreact because they are being attacked by someone
with a knife.  This may give you the needed time to finish your 
opponent.  Any time a close quarter combat situation presents itself,
ask yourself if it should be gun or knife and be prepared to pull the
blade at a moments notice.  If your opponent is a sniper and holding
his rifle, use the blade.

Medium range, unless the target is not looking at you or if he is 
otherwise engaged in another target, you need to think about your gun 
or a feign.  I often run in the opposite direction or half way around 
an object that is between me and the target which will obstruct his 
view and then double back.  Usually the target will go to face you and 
you can attempt the Back door Susie.  Medium range is very dependent 
on the situation and surroundings.  Contemplate the gun as a backup 

Distance, forget it.  See if there is a way to close with the target 
discretely.  The farther away a target is, the better a time it is 
to hunt for someone else.

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- 8) Maps              -
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Every map is a knife map.  My own favorites are the ones that promote 
close quarters combat.  For instance in Special Forces, the Iron Gator 
when one side has the mess hall and the other side has the forward 
hanger bay, the battle between those two points are fast as you contact 
the enemy within three seconds of spawn if you run to the other p
osition.  Also, between those two points are four different choices of 
travel.  There is always a possibility to back door someone there.  The 
other strong Special Forces map for me is Warlord.  When one side has 
the third floor of the palace and the other side has the second floor, 
there are multiple choices for paths between the two points.  Many 
opportunities for fast and multiple knife kills come up here.  Make 
sure your team is not nade spamming before you run forward to do your 
deed.  Also, if you have killed two or three already in a tight area, 
remember the Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing.

For Vanilla BF2 maps, I've done a lot of good work on Strike At Karkand.
The Hotel has a lot of alley ways that allow for CQB.  I have also had 
a lot of luck and actually got my own Basic Knife on Songhua Stalemate 
as a sniper.  The two sides on that map (Chinese and US) appear to use 
the same character for sniper.  This gives you a moment delay as when 
you approach someone and are not shooting, they assume you may be on 
their side and delay for that important moment.   Sharqi Peninsula at 
the construction site is also a great fast one to get a couple of blade 
kills in if the enemy has the flag point there.  Please do not camp the 
spawn area and not attempt a flag capture.  This is just flat out 
camping and not really what the game is all about.  Some servers even 
have strong rules against such behavior.  There are also so many knife 
kills out there that this practice is unnecessary.

Since the release of the Infantry Only mode, you can now play on servers
that will guarantee you will not be vehicularly harrassed while in pursuit
of scalps.  I have found these servers to be filled with medics and snipers
both of which make my knife tingle with excitement.

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- 9) Knife/Pistol servers  -
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Unranked servers I don't have an issue with.  Ranked servers are against 
the Rules of Engagement set up by Electronic Arts.  Play on them and 
possibly have your stats wiped if you are caught.  If you are going to 
listen to anyone regarding this route, then take my advice here: The 
awards are not real and are worth nothing to other people.  Go this route 
and they are worth nothing to you as well.

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- 10)  Badges  -
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  -> Knife Combat <-
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  - Basic = 7 Knife Kills in 1 round
  - Veteran = 50 Global Knife Kills
  - Expert = 100 Global Knife Kills

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- 11)  Ranks That require Knife Badges  -
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First Sergeant    - Basic Knife Badge
Brigadier General - Veteran Knife Badge

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- 12)   Stats  -
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Knowing where you are in your quest for your Knife Badges may motivate 
you.  Here are some stat sites that will let you view your current 
knife kills.

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- 13) Common Questions      -
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None as of yet.  Subject: Knife Question

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- 14) Servers I Play on      -
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When you read this you were the learner, now you are the master?  Thou
be drawn against heartless hinds?  Turn thee then Benvolio and face 
thy death.

CBW:  Current site
Server:   Canadian Black Watch BF2 Ranked 

SourceOfEvil:  Current site
Server: (Ranked)  =SoE=

Packet-Loss:   Current site
Server:  Euro Force Ranked Server

Don't be saddened.  Just because you get that "I wanna stab the fat man"
look in your eye, doesn't mean I'll knife you.  Often times I will just 
fill you full of lead.  So do yourself a favor, don't let me know you 
are coming for me till after the blade slips between 5th and 6th ribs 
from behind me.

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- 15) Copyright/Distribution/Reproduction Guidelines -
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This FAQ/Strategy Guide/Walkthrough is my own published work, and 
copyrighted by |CBW|Simon.  Do not edit this FAQ nor borrow its contents
in any way. If you want to use some information in your own guide,
simply ask me. If you want to place this guide on your website download
the file and host it, unaltered, on your own web server.  Please give all
proper credit for the guide.

Any site out there has permission to host my FAQs (following the above
terms), however, these are a list of current sites that host my FAQs


- 16) Thank You        -

I'd like to thank the following people and clans for their help in making
this FAQ

|CBW|The Clan - My brothers in arms.
|CBW|Whipsaw - Always my cohort in treacherous humor attacks.
|CBW|Spive - For your leadership, tolerance, guidance and friendship.
|CBW|D@rknyte - The rock.  Be it the one I hide behind if we are on the
same team or the one that lands on my head if we are not.  Thank you for
recruiting me back in 2001.

=HF= HellsFury clan at for having hosted a
BF2 Special Forces server that taught me the strength of teamwork
and cooperation in BF2, not to mention many killer map strategies
and much advice.

=HF=Alfaeagle - Great clan and great fun.  Thank you.
=HF=Linkster - aka, Mr. Kills-a-lot.  One of the best players I've met from
                        skill to attitude.
=HF=Spider-HF-  - aka The Butcher.  Humor and death on foot or in sky.

=SoE= Source of Evil clan at for hosting an
awesome server with rotating games from BF2 SF AF and EF.  Also one
of the founding members of the server alliance.

=SoE=Dgrillo -   Thanks for putting up a server and not putting up with
                         cheaters and the likes.  A clean server with fun gamers
                         is getting harder to find.

"The cutting edge of technology is covered in the blood of those
who buy first"   |CBW|Simon

Copyright 2007 |CBW| The Canadian Black Watch Clan