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                                              ŻŻŻ
                          - by Travis Adkins -
        - İ2001 -         -      a.k.a.      -       - Version 1.3 -
                          -  The Leviathan   -

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|                          Legal Disclaimer                           |
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   "Suikoden" is a trademark of Konami Co., Ltd. İ1995 1998 Konami.
   All rights reserved. All characters and scripts mentioned in this
   guide are owned by Konami.

   You, the reader, have the following rights and privileges:

   1) I wrote this Companion to aid Suikoden II fans in their
      completion of Clive's Quest. You may print out this guide
      as is, for personal use only.

   2) You cannot under any circumstances repackage or alter this
      guide or take credit away from me, the writer. You cannot
      post this guide on a website without my permission.

   3) You cannot sell this guide whether it be for profit or
      non-profit. I wrote this for fun, not for money. That
      means you can't make money from it either.

   4) The following sites have permission to post this FAQ:
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      If you see it elsewhere, please contact me.

   5) Remember, this is a COPYRIGHTED work. Simply obey all applicable
      laws pertaining to copyrights and we'll get along just fine.

   All this means is that you can use this guide, as is, to aid
   in completing Clive's Quest. Those are pretty much the only
   rights you have. If you're an honest person, those will be
   the only rights you'll need.

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|                             Introduction                            |
 ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
   This is a Companion Guide for Suikoden II's Clive's Quest. I
   haven't seen many available and the ones that I have seen are
   pretty vague ---and in most cases, incorrect. I'm solving all
   that by writing this one.

   I was a bit intimidated when I first started the quest on my own,
   since "20-hour limit" was expounded over and over. (That's right,
   Clive's Quest has a twenty-hour time limit, in case you didn't
   know.) So there I was, rushing around, making sure every movement
   I made was a necessary one. I only recruited Stars that were quick
   and easy to get.

   Well, it turns out that 20 hours is more time than you'll ever
   need. I realized this when I was headed for Tinto and was only
   10 hours into the game. From then on I took it easy and finished
   Clive's Quest in a little under 16 hours. I even recruited most
   of the Stars. Yes, it's easily possible to recruit ALL the Stars
   while playing through Clive's Quest. If you want to, that is.

   However, the big question is: "Is it worth it to play through
   again simply for Clive's sake?"

   If you're a big Suikoden fan, yes. Otherwise, no.

   There are no secret FMV's or special endings. If you're attempting
   Clive's Quest, you're doing so out of curiosity alone. See the
   section titled "Spoiler Scripts" if you don't want to play, but
   still want to know what happens.

   I hope that you find this guide helpful and informative. I've
   assumed that you've already played through Suikoden II at least
   once, because spoilers are abundant here. As is customary, I've
   made the hero's name "Hero" for the purposes of this guide and
   sometimes I'll say "you" meaning the Hero.

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|\/\/\/\/\/\       1) The Story                \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\|
|/\/\/\/\/\/\                                   \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/|
|\/\/\/\/\/\/\        2) Tips                    \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\|
|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\                                   \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/|
|\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\         3) The Quest              \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\|
|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\                                   \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/|
|\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\          4) Spoiler Scripts       \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\|
|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\                                   \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/|
|\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\           5) Tidbits              \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\|
|/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\                                   \/\/\/\/\/\/\/|
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                     /___  ___/  / /  / /  / ____/
                        / /     / /  / /  / /___     
                       / /     /  ŻŻŻ /  / ____/
                      / /     / /ŻŻ/ /  / /___ 
                     / /     / /  / /  /     / 
                     ŻŻ      ŻŻ   ŻŻ   ŻŻŻŻŻŻ
              _______  _________  ______  _______ __    __
             / _____/ /___  ___/ / __  / / ___  / \ \  / /
            / /          / /    / / / / / /  / /   \ \/ /
           /  ŻŻŻŻ/     / /    / / / / /  ŻŻŻ /     \  /
           ŻŻŻŻ/ /     / /    / /_/ / / /\ \ŻŻ      / /
         /ŻŻŻŻŻ /     / /    /     / / /  \ \      / /
         ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ      ŻŻ     ŻŻŻŻŻŻ  ŻŻ    ŻŻ      ŻŻ

   In the original Suikoden, there is a grave in Rockland that reads: 

                     ___________________________
                    /                           \
                   /                             \
                   | Homeless Woman's Last Words |
                   |             ___             |
                   |           __| |__           |
                   |           |     |           |
                   |           ŻŻ| |ŻŻ           |
                   |             | |             |
                   |             ŻŻŻ             |
                   |    Clive, forgive me for    |
                   |   not dying at your hands   |
                   |_____________________________|


   If Clive sees this tombstone, he will say: "... It's a trick. You're
   trying to deceive me again, woman. I swore I would find you, and I'll
   never give up until I do. So I can kill you with my own hands."

   Who is the woman that Clive is obsessed with, and why does he want to
   kill her? Konami only gave us a morsel of the tale in Suikoden. Now,
   in Suikoden II, you can find out the whole story, including its
   violent end.

   In order to do this you have to be quick in proceeding through the
   plot, because the woman, "Elza", is fast as she moves from place to
   place. Clive will be hard-pressed to keep up.


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                  /___  ___/  / /  / ___  /  / _____/
                     / /     / /  / /  / /  / /     
                    / /     / /  /  ŻŻŻ /  /  ŻŻŻŻ/
                   / /     / /  / /ŻŻŻŻŻ   ŻŻŻŻ/ /
                  / /     / /  / /       /ŻŻŻŻŻ /
                  ŻŻ      ŻŻ   ŻŻ        ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ

Note:  Feel free to use any combination of these tips to help you
       succeed in Clive's Quest. That's what they are here for.

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| 1|  In the options menu in Suikoden 2, go to Settings. Set Message
ŻŻŻŻ  Speed to 'Fast'. (I also prefer to have in-game windows opaque;
      it's easier to read text.)

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| 2|  When speech boxes appear on-screen during the game, press X
ŻŻŻŻ  rapidly to close them. You'll notice that each message appears
      a letter at a time. You have to press X twice per window to close
      it.

      Explanation: Pressing X one time makes all the text appear all at
      once. The second time you press X the window will close and the
      next message will appear, if there is one. I make note of this
      because the best way to proceed through Clive's Quest is to watch
      the character portraits while in-game conversations are occuring.
      Don't worry about the text, just keep pressing X. 99% of the time
      it isn't necessary to read the rambling that most of the characters
      say. Like Nanami. ARGH!

      When you see Hero's portrait appear, it means you have to make a
      decision. So when you see your character's portrait, immediately
      stop pressing X so you won't accidentally make the wrong choice.
      However, keep in mind that while undertaking Clive's Quest, you
      can't always choose the 'best' option. Instead, choose the FASTEST
      option.

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| 3|  Always RUN. (duh)
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| 4|  Any time you enter a new area or town, immediately save your game.
ŻŻŻŻ  Figure out who you have to talk to to advance the plot or chain of
      events. Write down what items and armor you want to buy and who
      you want to equip them on. Make maps of dungeons and the treasures
      inside. Then, reload your game and go through the same routine
      except do it fast.

      Since you'll know exactly what you want to purchase and who you
      want to equip it on, you should hear "bleepidy-bleepidy" when
      accessing menus, NOT "bleep... bleep..." This means your fingers
      are moving FAST.

      Referring to a walkthrough would also be wise; this way you'd know
      exactly where you have to go and what you have to do. There are
      plenty of nice ones available on GameFaqs, some even have maps.

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| 5|  There comes a point in the game when Viktor is sitting in the
ŻŻŻŻ  tavern and asks you if you'd like to hear a long story about
      Genkaku. Say "Forget about it" and go back to bed.

      Also do this for similar incidents.

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| 6|  Use the "Easter Egg", a well-known trick where you push through
ŻŻŻŻ  the barrier at the Muse/Matilda border. Don't talk to the guards
      standing there; just face the gate and start pushing. You can
      then get to Highway Village and Rockaxe.

      I recommend doing this AFTER you're finished at the White Deer
      Inn, which means you've conquered the Sindar Ruins. Of course
      you could do it before the Sindar Ruins, but it'd probably be
      too hard to defeat the monsters in Matilda. My time leaving
      the White Deer Inn before going to Muse was 2.19.41. I then
      spent roughly 1/2 hour leveling up. I went to Rockaxe and
      purchased the best armor for Hero, plus a Down Rune.

      I DO NOT recommend recruiting Humphrey and Futch just yet.
      I found it too difficult. Wait until you have sharper weapons. 

      When you get into Matilda, treat the monsters there as you
      would treat bosses. Use all the powerful magic at your disposal
      to kill them. Head straight to Highway Village, (hopefully you've
      had only 2 monster encounters; 3 is a step towards lethal), and
      rest and save your game. Then run out of the town, fight some
      more, then return, rest and save. You can easily get your Hero
      up to level 30 or so. Jowy's Black Sword Rune will probably be
      your best friend at this stage.

      You don't need to spend too much time here; hurry back to Muse
      to advance the plot. You'll find that you can decimate the
      monsters even in the Cave of the Wind, saving you a lot of time.

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| 7|  If you want to recruit all 108 Stars in Clive's Quest, do it
ŻŻŻŻ  QUICKLY. Recruit the ones on a time limit as soon as you can,
      (Mukumuku and Oulan, for example.) Then determine which ones
      can wait until you have the Blinking Mirror.

      Also, determine how many Stars you can recruit in one outing.
      I'll use Hix's quest as an example. Wait until you have the
      Blinking Mirror for this one. Put Gengen and Chaco in your
      party. Recruit Gabocha in the Kobold section of Two River.
      Recruit Jeanne from the Human section and recruit Sid when
      the last part of the quest puts you in the Sewers underneath
      the Winger section.

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| 8|  Don't waste too much time intentionally fighting monsters in
ŻŻŻŻ  each new area in order to level up. You'll find it only takes
      4-5 fights in each area to level up enough to fight the boss
      of that area. For instance, you can enter a dungeon, use your
      magic in order to win 4-5 fights, then use an escape talisman
      and return to a town to rest and save. When you reenter the
      dungeon, the fights will be much easier. This works very well.

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| 9|  If you die, simply CONTINUE. Don't reset your game. By
ŻŻŻŻ  continuing, you are allowed to keep all the experience points
      you earned since your last save point, AND the clock remains
      at the same time since your last save point. Note, however,
      that you will not be able to keep any items you have collected,
      but rarely is this a problem. You can always collect them again.

      This "Save, Level Up, and Die" method can also be used
      intentionally, thus strengthening your party without losing
      any time on the clock.

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|10|  Always keep Clive as a member of your party unless the game
ŻŻŻŻ  forces you into choosing other characters. If this case arises,
      put Clive back in the party when the next opportunity presents
      itself.


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                       / /     / /  / /  / /___     
                      / /     /  ŻŻŻ /  / ____/
                     / /     / /ŻŻ/ /  / /___ 
                    / /     / /  / /  /     / 
                    ŻŻ      ŻŻ   ŻŻ   ŻŻŻŻŻŻ
            _______    __   __   ______   _______   _________ 
           / ___  /   / /  / /  / ____/  / _____/  /___  ___/
          / /  / /   / /  / /  / /___   / /           / /   
         / /  / /   / /  / /  / ____/  /  ŻŻŻŻ/      / /
        / /  / /   / /  / /  / /___    ŻŻŻŻ/ /      / /  
       /  ŻŻŻ  \  /  ŻŻŻ /  /     /  /ŻŻŻŻŻ /      / /
       ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ\ \ ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ   ŻŻŻŻŻŻ   ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ       ŻŻ
               ŻŻ
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|                           Introduction                              |
 ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
   Well, here it is. This is all the places you need to be to see the
   events in Clive's Quest. I've tried to make it as accurate and
   informative as possible.

   Remember, for every incident in the Quest to occur, (except #1),
   Clive must be in your party.
   ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
   For some events I'll list the time limit according to Prima's
   Strategy Guide. I haven't confirmed them, but I assume they are
   correct.

   One last thing... You may find it better to keep Clive in your
   party all the time so you won't accidentally get to a point
   where you can't put him in your party when you need him.

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|                            Incident #1                              |
|                          Skirmish in Muse                           |
 ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
   This will occur when you arrive in Muse after you've conquered the
   Sindar Ruins. Here you will first meet Elza when she asks you to
   hold on to a parcel for her because a "bad man" is chasing her.
   Moments later you will encounter Clive, who asks if you've seen a
   tall woman with blonde hair.

   When you go to leave Muse, Elza steps in and requests that you
   return her parcels. That's when you see Clive. Elza uses Hero as
   a human shield and fires at Clive, who quickly rolls out of the
   way. Elza runs and he gives chase, leaving Hero in anticipation
   of the next encounter.

   There is no set time limit for this event, but you'd better get
   to it early. (Less than 3 hours.) It's suggested you use the
   "Easter Egg" before this event, (see "Tips")

   (It goes without saying, this incident is a MUST if you want to
    be able to recruit Clive in South Window, regardless of whether
    or not you want to undertake his quest.)

   If you are having trouble triggering this event, search the alleys
   on the east side of town.

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|                            Incident #2                              |
|                          Recruiting Clive                           |
 ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
   You must recruit Clive from South Window before Highland takes it
   over. You can do this only after you have gotten transportation to
   Lakewest, (by recruiting either Tai Ho or Amada and introducing them
   to Shu). Then put Clive in your party and head by boat to Lakewest.

   There is no time limit for this encounter, but for the record, my
   time was 4.40.00.

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|                            Incident #3                              |
|                         A letter from Elza                          |
 ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
   With Clive in your party, enter the Inn in Lakewest and talk to
   the man near the counter. He'll give you a letter from Elza.

   You should reach this incident 2 to 4 minutes after Incident #2.
   According to Prima, the time limit for this event is 11 hours.

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|                            Incident #4                              |
|                             Mind Games                              |
 ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
   After the Two River City battle, before you go to Greenhill in
   the guise of students, take Clive to Forest Village. Go to the
   clearing behind the buildings north of the town and find...

   According to Prima, the time limit for this event is 13 hours.

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|                            Incident #5                              |
|                       Always one step behind                        |
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   After the events in Rockaxe Castle, BEFORE following Miklotov,
   head into town and go to the Inn. If Clive is in your party
   you'll get more clues to Elza's whereabouts.

   This has to be done before Rockaxe falls to Highland. The only
   chance you'll get is during your initial visit. According to
   Prima, the time limit for this event is 14 hours.

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|                            Incident #6                              |
|                            The Gunfight                             |
 ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
   After you have finished all events in the Matilda area and are
   supposed to head back to your castle, instead go straight to
   Radat. Miklotov will still be in your party, and hopefully you
   were smart enough to bring Clive too. If not, go to Leona, put
   him in your party, then go to Radat. Don't do anything else to
   advance the plot yet. If you do, Radat will be under Highland
   control and you won't get to see this Incident until much later. 

   Take Clive into the bar to see a confrontation with Elza. My
   time at this incident was 7.25.53. According to Prima, the time
   limit is 15 hours.

   Spoiler Script available.

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|                            Incident #7                              |
|                          Storm's Failure                            |
 ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
   After you receive word from Dr. Huan that Nanami is dead, (after
   the liberation of Rockaxe Castle,) put Clive in your party and go
   to Muse. Take him to the top of Jouston Hill for another encounter
   with Elza.

   My time was 15.3.44.

   Spoiler Script available.

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|                            Incident #8                              |
|                         The Final Showdown                          |
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   Before infiltrating L´Renouille Castle, Viktor will ask you to
   form a party. Choose Clive and 4 other strong characters (there
   are very tough monsters roaming around Highland) and then head
   northwest to Sajah Village. There, Clive and Elza will duel.
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   My time was less than 16 hours. The time limit is 20 hours.

   Spoiler Script available.


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            / _____/ / ___  / / __  / / / / /     / ____/ / ___  /
           / /      / /  / / / / / / / / / /     / /___  / /  / /
          /  ŻŻŻŻ/ /  ŻŻŻ / / / / / / / / /     / ____/ /  ŻŻŻ / 
          ŻŻŻŻ/ / / /ŻŻŻŻŻ / /_/ / / / / /___  / /___  / /\ \ŻŻ
        /ŻŻŻŻŻ / / /      /     / / / /     / /     / / /  \ \
        ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ  ŻŻ       ŻŻŻŻŻŻ  ŻŻ  ŻŻŻŻŻŻ  ŻŻŻŻŻŻ  ŻŻ    ŻŻ
      _______   ______   _______   ___   _______  _________  _______
     / _____/  / ____/  / ___  /  /  /  / ___  / /___  ___/ / _____/
    / /       / /      / /  / /  /  /  / /  / /     / /    / /     
   /  ŻŻŻŻ/  / /      /  ŻŻŻ /  /  /  /  ŻŻŻ /     / /    /  ŻŻŻŻ/
   ŻŻŻŻ/ /  / /___   / /\ \ŻŻ  /  /  / /ŻŻŻŻŻ     / /     ŻŻŻŻ/ /
 /ŻŻŻŻŻ /  /     /  / /  \ \  /  /  / /          / /    /ŻŻŻŻŻ /
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|                           Introduction                              |
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      This section is for those that choose not to attempt Clive's
      Quest, so stop reading now if you don't want to know what
      happens.

      I firmly believe that when someone purchases a video game,
      then they OWN it. Which is to say they have every right to
      see everything that the game has to offer, whether they
      choose to play the game or not. The game may be too hard,
      too time-consuming, etc. That still should not take away
      the right of the customer to see exactly what they have
      purchased.

      Some developers are of the same opinion and offer cheat
      codes or secret menus that enable the player to view FMV's
      or select a level. There are some exceptional FMV's out
      there, (Final Fantasy, for example,) that the developers
      should be proud of and therefore WANT the player to view
      more than once. Personally, I love watching FMV's and on
      several occasions I watch them over. There was a lot of
      hard work put into them and the customer should have the
      right to view them whenever he/she wants.

      The point of all this is that Suikoden II is a LONG game.
      It's great and well worth the time, but many people don't
      have the patience to play through again to see the conflict
      between Clive and Elza ---but since the customer PAID for
      Suikoden II, he/she has the RIGHT to see it.

      Unfortunately, I cannot SHOW you what happens.

      But I can at least TELL you.

      What follows are selected scripts of the confrontations
      between Clive and Elza during Clive's Quest in Suikoden II.

      Enjoy.

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|          Confrontation between Clive and Elza in Radat              |
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                  <  Clive and Hero enter the bar.  >
                  < Clive approaches a nameless man.>

  Clive:  "Hey Master."

    Man:  "Y, yes? What can I do for you?"

  Clive:  "Do you know a woman named Elza? She's tall with blonde hair."

    Man:  "Umm... I... err... Well ya see..."

  Clive:  "Do you know her!!!"

    Man:  "Umm... well it could be..."

  Clive:  "What?"

    Man:  "That person over there..."

                     < Clive turns and sees Elza! >

   Elza:  "So, boy, you finally came. But I was thinking about going to
           another city soon."

  Clive:  "It's you!... finally. Now I'll bring this to an end..."

   Elza:  "Here? You'll hit the customers. The Guild won't like their
           reputation being damaged like that, y'know."

                     < Customers flee in a panic. >

  Clive:  "... Listen up, you criminal... For the murder of my fellow
           Gunner and Guild member, Kelley... In the name of my gun, Storm,
           I sentence you to death."

   Elza:  "Hey Clive... We used to be more than friends... Couldn't you
           just let me go?"

  Clive:  "Don't say it... Murdering a Guild Gunner, stealing a gun and
           fleeing... According to Harmonia law, both crimes are punishable
           by death."

   Elza:  "Tsk... laws mean nothing. Do you really believe in anything
           besides the weight of your guns?"

  Clive:  "Maybe I can believe again... Once I kill you, that is..."

   Elza:  "... Fine then. Let's go. A duel between Gunners."

  Clive:  "Wrong!!! You're a criminal and I'm the executioner."

            < They draw. Elza fires first. Clive is hit. >

  Clive:  "Storm... why..."

        < Clive falls, his blonde hair spilling to the floor. >

   Elza:  "See you later... handsome."

                 <             Fades out.            >
                 <   Clive wakes up in one of the    >
                 <   beds in Dr. Huan's infirmary.   >
                 <        Hero is by his side.       >

  Clive:  "Where am I... Am I... alive?"

   Huan:  "You're a lucky one, Clive. What'd you call em? 'bullets'?
           They only hit you in the shoulder and leg and it nearly
           killed you."

  Clive:  "... A knight-class gunner missed?... That can't be..."

   Huan:  "Just a few inches more and... If she was really aiming,
           then she's an incredible shot..."

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|       Confrontation between Clive and Elza at Jouston Hill          |
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   Elza:  "So how have you been, Clive?"

                        < Clive steps forward. >

  Clive:  "Will you tell me why you did it?"

   Elza:  "Did what? What are you talking about?"

  Clive:  "You couldn't have... a knight-class gunner couldn't miss
           their target."

   Elza:  "That's what you wanted to ask?"

  Clive:  "No, I... I'll only ask once more. Why did you kill my
           brother?"

   Elza:  "Brother? You grew up in the Guild together, but 'brother'?
           You're a nice man, Clive. Maybe if Kelley had been even
           half as nice to me, I wouldn't have done what I did.
           I started to hate the Guild... hate all those people who
           lusted for power... That place could turn an angel into
           a devil."

                         < Elza steps closer. >

   Elza:  "You guys grew up in that filthy courtyard... You got
           involved with those guns and those Guild rules...
           But I put an end to all that, with my friends Moon and
           Star."

                       < Elza displays her guns. >

  Clive:  "So why didn't you kill me back then too!!! Try and see
           if you can do it now! You witch!!!"

             < Elza walks up to Clive, then steps past him. >

   Elza:  "Clive, enough already. You don't owe the Guild anything."

                   <    Elza begins to walk away.    >
                   < Clive aims his gun at her back. >

  Clive:  "The Guild and my brother were the only important things
           I had in my life. You already took my brother away. I
           won't let you destroy the only thing I have left in this
           world. Now is the time for me to execute your sentence."

   Elza:  "Storm..."

           < Clive pulls the trigger but the gun does not fire. >

  Clive:  "Storm, What is it..."

                          < Elza walks away. >

   Elza:  "Sorry about that kid... Well the Guild isn't everything.
           There's a small village west of L'Renouille, Highland's
           capital. You can find me there..."

                   < Clive lowers his gun in dismay. >

  Clive:  "Why Storm, why?! Why?!"

                             < Fades out. >

  Clive:  "I'm sorry... Hero... I came all this way..."

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|                             EXTRA SCRIPT                            |
|       Confrontation between Killey and Lorelai in Gregminster       |
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      This event occurs if you have Killey in your party when you
      recruit Lorelai in Gregminster. I've included it as a bonus
      script because I was intrigued by the relationship of these
      two characters, which seemed similar to the love/hate shared
      by Clive and Elza.

Lorelai:  "Good afternoon. Oh, you... You're the boy who came to see
           President Lepant... Hero, right?"

   Hero:  "Yes... Will you come with us?"

Lorelai:  "Come with you...? Join your army? But, I'm..."

                           <Killey steps out.>

 Killey:  "You're the same as ever, Lorelai. Always thinking of
           profit... the way to the Sindar will never open to someone
           like you!"

Lorelai:  "You...! Killey!! I thought you went to the Queendom of
           Farena!!"

 Killey:  "Oh, I was there, alright... thanks to your 'tip.' And what
           a tip it was... I didn't find any Sindar ruins, but I did
           find a squad of police ready to throw me in a stinking cage."

Lorelai:  "Hmph. That was pretty foolish. But what can you do about it
           now? How unfortunate for you."

 Killey:  "Oh, I wouldn't say that..."

Lorelai:  "What?! Did you find something?!?"

 Killey:  "And why should I tell you?"

Lorelai:  "Because that was MY tip!! MY information..."

 Killey:  "I'm part of the [?] Army at the moment... One more person
           won't make a big difference, but we ARE looking for more
           recruits."

Lorelai:  "You... you underhanded...!!"

 Killey:  "No more than you, Lorelai."

Lorelai:  "Fine... but first..."

                <Lorelai walks around Hero, inspecting him.>

Lorelai:  "Hmmm, not bad... You seem pretty tough, kid. Killey wouldn't
           join a fool's army. Hero, I'll join your cause. The goddess
           of victory does indeed seem to be smiling down on you."

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|     Final Confrontation between Clive and Elza in Sajah Village     |
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   Elza:  "You came back, eh boy. Well, let's finish this..."

  Clive:  "Yeah..."

   Elza:  "Clive, my old friend... How about a duel between Gunners?"

  Clive:  "... Fine... It looks like Storm won't shoot you."

            < Clive takes Storm from his cloak and drops it. >

   Elza:  "Hee-hee, thanks."

           < Elza offers Clive his choice of one of her guns. >

   Elza:  "My gun, Stern or 'Star', represents trust in the Guild,
           and Mond or 'Moon', represents betrayal. Protection and
           Assassination, the 2 faces of the Howling Voice Guild.
           Choose the one you prefer."

                    < Clive picks one of the guns. >

   Elza:  "Stern... I thought you'd choose that..."

                < They spread apart and face each other. >

  Clive:  "Whenever you're ready..."

                < Elza cocks her gun and stands ready. >

   Elza:  "Impatient, eh... Don't you want to stay in this world
           a little longer?"

                < Clive cocks his gun and stands ready. >

  Clive:  "That's not necessary."

                              < A pause. >

   Elza:  "Howling Voice, shadow upon the ground!"

  Clive:  "Howling Voice, flash of thunder from the gods!"

                        < They raise their guns. >

   Elza:  "Cursed Voice that separates Life from Death!"

  Clive:  "Right here, right now, these Guns want to shed blood."

            < Their guns slowly start to point at each other. >

   Elza:  "They want to feast on souls!"

  Clive:  "Listen you cursed Guns!"

               < Their guns are now aimed at each other. >

   Elza:  "We are it!"

  Clive:  "The final blast to signal war!!!"

                              < A pause. >

   Elza:  "CLIVE!"

  Clive:  "No hesitation!"

                       < Clive fires. Elza falls. >

   Elza:  "Ugh... unf..."

  Clive:  "It's over..."

   Elza:  "Yeah... you're right... You... you won..."

                              < A pause. >

   Elza:  "Did you... really think... I could shoot you...?
           Boy... there are no bullets in this gun..."

  Clive:  "..."

   Elza:  "The day I shot Kelley... It was me who should have
           died... Died with pride as a Gunner... That's why,
           boy... That's why I've got more regrets than I care
           to count..."

  Clive:  "What...?"

   Elza:  "Clive... this place... this village... This is where
           I was born... My father, my mother, our house...
           They're all gone... Nobody who even remembers them...
           But even so, this is the place where my heart always
           returns."

  Clive:  "..."

   Elza:  "Poor Clive... He was born in the Guild, raised in the
           Guild... Pretty sad, don't you think, boy? And then...
           he lost Kelley... Give me Storm..."

          < Clive picks up Storm and puts it in Elza's hands. >

   Elza:  "Storm... the only Gun in the world with a soul inside
           it. The Guild chose Kelley to inherit this Gun, not
           me... But then Storm itself chose me... The Guild could
           not go against the wishes of Storm, and the only way to
           settle it was with a duel."

  Clive:  "..."

   Elza:  "Stern and Mond were the guns prepared for the day of the
           duel. And just like today, only Stern was loaded with
           bullets. Kelley knew that... and so, he chose Mond..."

  Clive:  "The Guild... those fools..."

   Elza:  "I deeply regretted it... Shooting Kelley... And then
           running away from the Guild... Thank you... Clive...
           Now, my soul can return home..."

  Clive:  "Elza..."

   Elza:  "Ha... Ha ha ha!!! You're too soft, boy... You didn't
           really believe that sob story, did you..."

  Clive:  "What do you..."

                  <  Elza aims Mond towards the  >
                  < sky and shoots into the air. >

   Elza:  "Go back to the guild, boy... It's the only place for
           you... I won't steal that from you..."

                    <  Clive steps toward her.  >

   Elza:  "Clive... take care of Storm... You're its keeper now...
           Farewell... forever... Farewell, gunslinger..."

                <    Clive removes his hood and     >
                <  falls to his knees next to her.  >

  Clive:  "N... No... NO!!! Elza! Elza!!"

   Elza:  "You did good, boy... But, remember... You still couldn't
           do it... You couldn't catch me..."

                      <       Fades out.        >
                      <  Clive and Hero stand   >
                      < in the street, talking. >

  Clive:  "Hero... My job as executioner is over... I think... I'll
           eventually return to the Guild soon... But for the time
           being, I'll stay with the [?] Army. I'm not quite ready
           to leave this land yet..."


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        /___  ___/ / /  / _ \    / ___ \  / / /___  ___/ / _____/
           / /    / /  / / \ \  / /  / / / /     / /    / /     
          / /    / /  / /  / / /  ŻŻŻ<  / /     / /    /  ŻŻŻŻ/
         / /    / /  / /__/ / / /ŻŻ/ / / /     / /     ŻŻŻŻ/ /
        / /    / /  /      / /  ŻŻŻ / / /     / /    /ŻŻŻŻŻ /
        ŻŻ     ŻŻ   ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ  ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ  ŻŻ      ŻŻ     ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
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|                           Introduction                              |
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      These are just some personal thoughts and ideas I decided
      to throw in.

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|                        Favorite Characters                          |
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                 Bob           Kasumi          Killey
                 Rina          Millie          Sasuke
                 Clive        Pesmerga         Sierra

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|                       Most Hated Characters                         |
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                        Nanami         Chaco
                         Nina          Eilie
                         Tuta           Hoi

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|                  Favorite Quotes from Suikoden II                   |
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     "Are you going to the Academy? Be sure to say 'Hello' to the
      receptionist, Emilia... Sigh... She's not only beautiful,
      she's got quite a head on her shoulders... I'm smitten."
                                          ---from a WOMAN in Greenhill.

                   "I'm tired, so let's do it later."
                                          ---Futch, in bed.

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|                        The Names Of My Heroes                       |
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             Suikoden          Suikoden II         Suikoden III
             ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ          ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ         ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
              Conrad             Dalziel              Azrael

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|                         FYI, Suikoden Style                         |
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     - The official names of the heroes are as follows:
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                           Suikoden 1: Tir
                           Suikoden 2: Riou
 
     - Suikoden is pronounced "Su-eee-ko-den"

     - Translated, "Suikoden" means "The Water Margin."

     - For all things Suikoden, visit www.suikosource.com

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|                         Contact Information                         |
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|                               Thanks!                               |
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    Thank you for reading my guide. I hope it was helpful to you.

    The Suikoden series are great games, it's just a shame that Clive
    does not return for Suikoden III. I found this kind of strange
    since the Gunner's Guild is in Harmonia, the land where the next
    story takes place.

    Oh, well.