Xmen vs Street Fighter Zangief Information Ver 1.4 Version History =============== Ver 1.0 Basic Information Ver 1.1 A few little extras and clean up Ver 1.2 A new combo plus SPD advice Ver 1.3 Lots of clean up and additions/corrections Ver 1.4 Zangief's EVIL combo added ( finally ) Normal Moves ============ Jab(1) Good speed and range still. Strong(2) Hold forwards ( or down in air ) to use Elbow Drop move. Useful for fast air-to-ground attack. Hits opponents on the ground but has bad recovery. Fierce(3) Splash ( hold down ) has good priority and stays out for a long time. Standing punch has great range. Short(4) Good for SPD/FAB ticks. Forward(5) Not as necessary as SF, because ground game isn't as tight. Jumping knees ( hold down ) still has great priority. Great range still. Roundhouse(6) Still great range. Standing RH is a 2-hit small launcher. Special Moves ============= Spinning Lariat 3P (Air) Still great air defence. Beware people who air block, then dash back in or super and remember that they can roll back into you even after it connects. Short Spinning Lariat 3K (Air) Only hits opponents straight up, and they will sometimes come down and throw you. Not much use unless you know they'll block. Spinning Piledriver (SPD) 360 + P (Air) Range is a little better than SFZ2. Practising air-SPDs is well worth it. Does GOOD damage. I have found that doing the SPD motion with a 3/4 circle from back to up works really well sometimes, especially in air combos. Siberian Suplex (SS) HCF + K (Close) Good vs cornered opponent. Do a jump in, then SS. Run and Grab HCF + K (Far) Very useful. Speed is a little better than SF, now goes through non-sweep/launcher hits. Only use as a surprise move or against scrubs. Banishing Punch DP + P (Cancels Fireballs but not other projectiles) Not too useful, but can SPD or FAB after it connects for difficult to a void tick. Air Throw HCB + K Really sucks hard. One use is when you do a strong throw in the corner, use it to grab them out of the air. Grab Dash F, F then 2, 5, 3 or 6 When Zangief dashes, if he connects with the opposition ( doesn't seem to work well against cornered opponents ) he grabs them. Push a button for which throw you want to do. I haven't been able to SPD or FAB after the grab. Hyper X: Final Atomic Buster (FAB) 360 + PP The most damaging super in the game! See tactics section for ways to actually get people with it! Goes through hits like Run and Grab. Tactics ======= Zangief plays much the same as in SF, but doesnt have to work so hard on the ground because of Xmen vs Sfs big air game. One big problem with Zangief is getting close to people which can be hard if they dont want you to. Super jumping is one of the few ways around this, but if the opponent is awake, you can spend your whole time chasing him. So when you do get them, make sure it hurts! Getting in. The age old Zangief problem. He still has his SF move priority, so jumping in with the splash(down+3) or the knees(down+5) are still great options. His tick is much the same as SF - if you clean hit with a crouching short(4), they are SPDd. If not, they may be. The Run and Grab is better against turtles than SF because its a little faster and goes through non-sweep hits! And it looks cool! As with SFZ etc, you should centre your attack around the FAB. It does EVIL amounts of damage and looks REALLY cool. It has the disadvantage that its slow. This can be offset in several different ways: #1:Jumping splash(3) ( ending up close to opponent ), crouching short(4), FAB is VERY hard to escape because the FAB starts so close to the opponent, especially if you hit very deep with the splash and short. #2: Jumping splash ( connects ), standing roundhouse(6) ( small launcher, 2 hits must connect), interrupt into FAB ( grabs them as they come down ) is inescapable. #3: Strong(2) throw ( throws them upwards ), FAB ( as they come down ) is hard to get out of unless the target character has an air move involving movement, like Dhalsims t eleport etc, or they hit you with a Fierce(3) or Roundhouse(6) as they come down, but it sur prises most people, so this shouldn't be a problem. #4: After a SPD, if they roll towards you, do a FAB which will grab them out of their roll. MUCH COOLNESS and VERY effective! #5: After killing their first character or if they swap characters, if you are on their side of the screen, do a FAB as their second character jumps in, they automatically land right in front of you. #6: After any move the opponent does which has a long delay, or puts them in the air to fall back down ( e.g. DPs ) if you are close. #7: If you manage to get someone with the Dash Grab, wait until the instant Zangief lets go of them, then FAB. Not a reliable technique. Basically, just be a Zangief as per SF, but use super jumps to get close when necessary. Don't use Zangief as the second half of a team counter unless youre REALLY close because he does the Run and Grab, and wont hit unless theyre in the corner. The up side of this Run and Grab is that it's invulnerable ( as far as I know ) . When used as part of a team super, he does a Lariat. Combos ====== You mean Zangief has combos? Yes, this is an alien thing to Zangief players, but he only has a few. Jumping knees(D+5), splash(D+3), standing 6, lariat Jumping knees(D+5), splash(D+3), crouching 5 cancel into Banishing Punch (DP+P), SPD or FAB ( note that the SPD or FAB on the end doesn't ACTUALLY combo, it's just REALLY hard to avoid ) He has a ground comb which the computer does which I have yet to figure out. It 's something like standing jab,short,fierce,lariat. Any info appreciated. Air combos: crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,lariat crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,6 or 3 crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,lariat,6(corner) crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,6,6(corner) crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,SPD(tricky) - the HCF continuing to U SPD method works well crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,air throw, ( if they don't roll.. ) <land>, crouching short,SPD crouching strong(2)(launch), 4,5,lariat(w K), <land>, standing 6, Run+Grab/FAB Some VS Character info Sabretooth: Watch the speed on his jump. You cant try to hit him as he jumps in, so the best bet is to lariat, but be careful of him jumping in blocking. Punish his "jump and grab" thing when he bounces off with a standing 3. Punish missed "weapon X" supers with a SPD or FAB but be careful, because he often ends up behind you and if you do it too fast, you'll be facing the wrong way. If he air-combos you, make sure you're ready to tech-hit out of an air throw or you'll eat a super. Ken\Ryu\Akuma Just like the old days! Same tactics as SF, but less ground tactics required, because you can jump in with impunity while blocking! Gambit Watch for the startup delay on his cards and jump over them. If he does the airborne card throw, block the first, then superjump and air-SPD him as he throws again ( he proabably will throw at least two ). If he does the bounce off the walls and come down move, launch him with a crouching 2 as he drops. Wolverine Getting close to Wolverine isnt a problem, because hes usually in your face. When hes air-comboing you, hold down and hammer on the 2 button because you can air-throw him after the drill claw in his air combo. Be aware that his throws have truly evil speed. Try to avoid lariat as air defence, because he can dash back in really fast after bounching off. Cyclops Another tricky one because of speed difference. Again be very careful. Punish any close range optic blasts. Watch out for the dash-throw especially in combos. Magneto If he flys, super jump and air-SPD as he throws the downward blasts. Watch out for his slide cancelled into the hyper grabs balls move. Storm Hope that they dont use the "Milo Cooper" off the screen crap. Block a lot and super jump a lot while blocking and look for chances to SPD while in the air. Get to know when you can stop blocking the typhoons - they stick around for a while after they stop actually hitting. Zangief As always, Zangief vs Zangief fights are short and violent. Cammy Again a few problems from speed difference, but no projectile to contend with, except the cannon drill which you can FAB if you block it. Dhalsim Block push or lariat his yoga-spear attacks always. Juggernaut Always an exciting fight. Be real careful. Look for moves with bad recovery and SPD or FAB those long limbs. Try not to be the first to make a mistake, because itll probably be your last. Read my Juggernaut FAQ! :) Any comments/suggestions/requests, please mail me. firstname.lastname@example.org Web Site: www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/4811 Bolishoi Tavyeda! ( Big win! ) Adam.