Suikoden III Story Scenes/Endings FAQ
Version 1.9, copyright dan crenshaw (dshaw999@bellsouth.net) 2002
last updated 1/7/2003



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regarding all 3 Suikodens.  If you have not yet played through the games and
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Update info:

The new content in this update includes:

-Added 2 new "hidden" scenes and more detailed content for the scene where
 Chris receives Jimba's memento and what happens if Lucia beats Chris in their
 duel
-Added proper credit to suikosource.com for Fury runes location, something I
 absentmindedly forgot in the last version
-Added info. from nihon concerning gametz.com as another source for obtaining
 Suikoden I and II
-Added 10 play transcripts in a new section
-Added (belated) thanks to gamefaqs message board, CJayC, and gamefaqs to
 acknowledgements section

I'm still curious to see if there's any differences if you get Estella with
Geddoe or Hugo since most people get her with Chris.  One of these days when I
play through the game again I'll note it if there's anything special.  Nothing
else planned for future updates except corrections or if something major is
discovered.

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1.  Introduction/Purpose of FAQ

2.  Quick Questions/Long Answers
    2a.  What order should I play the chapters?
    2b.  How many POV's are there?
    2c.  Do I have to play Thomas' chapters?
    2d.  When is the last time I can save before picking a Flame Champion?
    2e.  Who should I pick as Flame Champion?
    2f.  What does "Rincar" mean?
    2g.  Should I play Suikoden I and II first? [updated]
    2h.  Can you give me some strategies on how to beat [X]?
    2i.  Can you tell me how to recruit [X]?
    2j.  What are the unwinnable battles in the game?
    2k.  Seriously, can you give me some tips?

3.  "Hidden" Scenes
    3a.  Introduction
    3b.  Hugo v. Chris pt. 1
    3c.  Chris receives Jimba's memento [updated]
    3d.  Geddoe v. Borus
    3e.  Borus and Percival discuss the Karaya raid
    3f.  Thomas meets Chris [NEW]
    3g.  Goodbye, Iowa--Saint Loa Knights' farewell
    3h.  Chris v. Lucia [updated]
    3i.  Lilly attacks! [NEW]
    3j.  Geddoe v. Duke and Luc
    3k.  Hugo v. Chris pt. 2
    3l.  Chris recruits Gordon
    3m.  Chris recruits Mel
    3n.  Hugo recruits Belle
    3o.  Hugo and the Saint Loa Knights reunite
    3p.  The final battles
    3q.  Futch and Viki with Luc
    3r.  Sasarai and Dios

4.  Characters/Plot Analyses
    4a.  Introduction
    4b.  Conspiracy Theory-The Karaya Raid
    4c.  Luc
    4d.  Yuber
    4e.  Sarah
    4f.  Albert
    4g.  Chris
    4h.  Geddoe
    4i.  Hugo
    4j.  Hugo + Chris + Geddoe = McDohl?
    4k.  An (edited) rant on Apple, Chris, and Teleportation

5.  Flame Champion Stories
    5a.  Introduction
    5b.  Hugo's Story
    5c.  Geddoe's Story
    5d.  Chris' Story

6.  Chapter 4 and 5
    
7.  Flame Champion Endings
    7a.  Introduction
    7b.  Hugo's Endings
    7c.  Geddoe's Endings
    7d.  Chris' Endings

8.  Luc's POV
    8a.  Introduction
    8b.  Luc's Story

9.  The 108 Stars of Destiny Roll Call

10. Bath Conversations
    10a.  Introduction
    10b.  Estella and Chris
    10c.  Bazba, Shiba, and Dupa
    10d.  Futch, Franz, and Fred
    10e.  Melville, Louis, and Rody
    10f.  Estella and Little Viki
    10g.  Ayame and Chris
    10h.  Jacques, Watari, and Toppo

11. Play Transcripts
    11a.  Introduction
    11b.  Romeo and Juliet 1
    11c.  Imperial Love 1
    11d.  William Tell 1
    11e.  Neclord's End
    11f.  Romeo and Juliet 2
    11g.  Imperial Love 2
    11h.  William Tell 2
    11i.  The Little Match Girl
    11j.  He Cried Wolf
    11k.  Romeo and Juliet 3

12. Acknowledgements

13. Version History


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1.  Introduction/Purpose of FAQ

Suikoden III employs a gameplay device called the Trinity Sight System (TSS).  
This means the overall story is played through the point of view (POV) of three
different main characters.  After you have played through Hugo, Geddoe, and 
Chris' chapter 3's,  you are asked to choose a new Flame Champion.  This FAQ 
describes the different events, plot points, and conversations for each main 
character as Flame Champion.  In addition, a detailed description of the sixth 
POV, that of Luc, is also included.  Finally, the individual endings for each 
of the 108 Stars of Destiny is provided.

After completing the game the first time, and having not saved at the critical 
point before choosing a Flame Champion, I realized how much of a pain it was to 
play another 50 hours just to see about two hours worth of different scenes.  I 
decided to write this FAQ for those players who wish to know what's different 
for each character as Flame Champion without investing a lot of time replaying 
the game.  I have also provided information relating to some scenes that are 
easy to miss as well as a description of my own order of playing through the 
chapters.  Lastly, I have added a character/story analysis section to discuss
some of the relevant plot points and main characters from the game.


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2.  Quick Questions/Long Answers

2a.  What order should I play the chapters?

The definition of an "optimal" order is quite subjective.  You are given the 
choice of playing through one character's chapters 1-3, or doing it by 
alternating chapter 1's, then chapter 2's, and so on.  Some people will no 
doubt enjoy doing it the former way, others will prefer the latter.  The order
I have listed below is my personal opinion of the best order for players going
through the game for the first time.  It gives the player duel/dialogue options
related to the "hidden" scenes section as well as minimizing spoilers.

Hugo 1
Chris 1
Geddoe 1
Thomas 1
Chris 2
Hugo 2
Geddoe 2
Hugo 3
Thomas 2
Geddoe 3
Chris 3
Chapter 4
Chapter 5

As far as difficulty goes, Geddoe's early chapters are more difficult in terms
of the enemies you face so I suggest first time players do Chris/Hugo's
chapters first to get a good grasp of the gameplay.  If you're playing the game
for a second time, I highly recommend playing each characters' chapters in
blocks (1-3 consecutively) to get a more complete perspective on each
individual story.  You may be surprised how your opinion can change about the
characters by doing it this way.

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2b.  How many POV's are there?

Six:  Chris, Geddoe, Hugo, Thomas, Koroku (the dog), and Luc.  To play as the 
dog, recruit him at Mt. Hei Tou then visit him near his kennel outside of 
Budehuc Castle's dining room/theater.  To play as Luc, recruit all of the 
possible 104 stars before the final strategy battle in chapter 5 and do not 
have anyone killed in the strategy battles.  Luc, Sarah, Yuber, and Albert will 
then be listed on the Tablet of Stars as the remaining 4 stars.

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2c.  Do I have to play Thomas' chapters?

No, they are optional.  You have up until chapter 4 to play Thomas' POV.  If
you proceed to chapter 4 without playing his POV, you will be warned that going
any further means you can't play his POV.  If you elect not to play as Thomas,
he, Cecile, Piccolo, Sebastian, Muto, Martha, Juan, Eike, and Shizu will join
as Stars of Destiny in chapter 4.  The new Flame Champion will then be given
the option of re-naming Budehuc Castle when you first go there.

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2d.  When is the last time I can save before picking a Flame Champion?

After you have completed Hugo, Geddoe, and Chris' chapter 3's, you will have 
the option to save before going to chapter 4.  This is the last opportunity
you have to save before choosing a Flame Champion.

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2e.  Who should I pick as Flame Champion?

Whichever character is your favorite.  If you're looking at it purely from the 
perspective of getting the most mileage out of the True Runes, the best 
candidate is Hugo, the worst is Chris.  However, keep in mind you can find 
items that will enhance a person's ability with certain magic.  Therefore, 
while Chris' maximum skill with Fire is only a C, if you acquire some Fire 
Magic Rings and equip her with a Wizard Hat, you can boost it up to an A+.  My 
suggestion is to just to pick your favorite character; there's no boss you 
can't beat with any number of different group combinations anyway.

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2f.  What does Rincar mean?

A few people have e-mailed me asking about this so I thought I'd go ahead and
include it.  It's short for "Rune Incarnation".

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2g.  Should I play Suikoden I and II first? [updated]

Suikoden III can be enjoyed as a standalone game-its story and characters have
only very minor ties to the previous two games.  I suggest you play Suikoden I
and II moreso because they are great games (better than Suikoden III, IMHO)
rather than as an issue of continuity.  The previous games did not employ the
Trinity Sight System, had different combat/strategy battle systems, and had
different mini-games.  The similarities include building up a castle, the 108
Stars of Destiny story frame, use of rune magic, a plot revolving around True
Runes, and the general smart alecky humor of the characters.  My personal
opinion of ranking the games is, from best to last, II, I, and III.  In terms
of game length, I'd say Suikoden I will take you around 15 hours and II around
35 hours or so to complete.  Suikoden II has several highly addictive mini-
games that can add a lot of hours to that 35, though.

The only things you get for loading Suikoden II data into Suikoden III are two
extra scripts (with plays related to events in Suikoden I and II), boosted
levels for Futch, big Viki, and Belle, and references to the names you gave to
the heroes/armies of the previous games.  In terms of acquiring the old games,
your best bet is the bargain bin/used section of a local retailer.  A couple of
friends of mine have been able to get the old games by asking their local store
to hold on to a copy if someone trades it in.  Your other avenue is ebay or
half.com, but I imagine because of their scarcity you'll have to pay more than
the original price.  And before you ask, I am not selling my copies of the old
games ^_^

nihon e-mailed me about a site called gametz.com where you may also be able to
get a copy of Suikoden I and II.  I don't know too much about this site nor
have I ever tried it, but I am including it for those who'd like to look into
it further.  In no way am I endorsing gametz.com or suggesting you go there-I'm
putting it in here mainly because 1/3 of the e-mails I get are related to how
someone can get a hold of the older games outside of ebay or half.com.  Use it
at your own risk.  Thanks to nihon for providing info. about gametz.com.

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2h.  Can you give me some strategies on how to beat [X]?

No, that's beyond the scope and intent of this FAQ.

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2i.  Can you tell me how to recruit [X]?

See previous answer.  Ryvius has an excellent, spoiler-free FAQ right here at 
gamefaqs listing how to recruit all the stars.

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2j.  What are the unwinnable battles in the game?

I'm aware of the following:

-Hugo Chapter 1, Melville v. Guillaume duel
-Thomas Chapter 2, strategy battle where Leo and Percival show up
-Thomas Chapter 2, fight with the 4 Zexen regulars inside Lake Castle
-Hugo Chapter 3, Hugo v. Yuber duel
-Chapter 4, strategy battle outside Chisha
-Chapter 4, Chris is Flame Champion, strategy battle v. Sarah and Yuber

Thanks to Mr KO and Emperor Magus from the gamefaqs message board-I had
incorrectly listed two battles that are indeed winnable for this question.

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2k.  Seriously, can you give me some tips?

-Recruit only support characters with Geddoe.  His party is fixed and cannot be
changed during his chapters 1-3 with only very minor exceptions.

-Recruit Kidd with Hugo in his chapter 3.  In the latter part of that chapter,
Hugo can encounter a monster called Bronze Sun in the Ancient Highway.  These
monsters drop Fury runes, which put the user into automatic Berserk status.  It
is one of the best non-True Runes in the game, IMO, because it turns great
fighters into monsters and marginal fighters into serviceable ones.  Kidd has
the highest Treasure Hunt skill at "C" so he helps in this regard.  Credit to
suikosource.com for the location of the Fury runes.

-Don't be in a rush to recruit "logically".  The game tends to push you in a
certain direction as far as who recruits who (such as Chris recruiting Estella
and Geddoe recruiting Edge).  Keep in mind, though, that a number of characters
come in at a level dependent on who recruits them.  These characters are:

Kenji, Augustine, Watari, Ayame, Twaikin, Sanae Y, Wan Fu, Estella, Rody,
Gadget Z, Belle, and big Viki

Instead of grabbing these characters as soon as you can, if you wait until
you're at a higher level, they will come in at a similar high level.  This also
includes them having more skills and skill points, not to mention saving you
time in bumping them up levels.  Their equipment is always pre-set, however.
If you're playing through the game for a second time, definitely try to recruit
differently-you'll get different scenes at least and some of them are quite
interesting.

-During chapters 4 and 5 when you're leveling up/boosting your characters, make
use of the O button.  Whenever you're at the item store, Jeane's rune shop,
your warehouse, learning from Juan/Ernie, or upgrading with Peggi, you can
access your entire roster by pressing O.  This is a great time saver so you
don't have to switch out party members back and forth with Anne to sharpen
weapons, learn skills, upgrade armor, etc.

-The best way to earn money starting in chapter 4 is by making use of the
Prosperity Set.  When the entire set is equipped on a character, the amount of
potch you receive per battle is multiplied by a significant amount.  After
equipping the set, go to the Flame Champion Hideaway to fight the Copper Suns.
In about 10-15 minutes, you can rack up 999,999 potch.  Bringing along Elliot,
whose Potch Finder ability is the best at "C", also helps.  You can win the
Tunic of Prosperity at Billy's card game (5,000 bet, random-save before you
play-if you end up with Potted Cactus, just reload and try again) and the other
two Prosperity items, the Ring and Hat, are rare finds at Chisha's item shop.
Estella also comes with the Prosperity Hat.  Credit Abraxas from the gamefaqs
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3.  "Hidden" Scenes

3a.  Introduction

I call them "hidden" for lack of a better word.  There are some scenes you may 
have missed depending on who is in your party when you recruit someone, what 
decisions you made in previous chapters, and who you have in your party during 
the last series of battles.  I have also included some battle option dialogue
and what happens if you choose to fight/not to fight.  I've also included
transcripts of certain recruitment scenes that stand out or are tied in with
certain story events.

There's other optional fights/scenes I won't go into detail about for the sake
of brevity.  Namely, in Hugo's chapter 1 and chapter 3, you can fight
Leo/Percival and Leo/Roland, respectively, if you choose the more aggressive
option.  Neither fight is very interesting in terms of the dialogue or anything
else.  In Hugo's chapter 2, there's the optional fight with Yuber in the
Ancient Highway.  This one gets discussed a lot on the gamefaqs message board
but you don't get much EXP or skill points so it's not worth it to me.  The
lone item you get, a Gold Emblem, is a common item later in the game.  Lastly,
if you recruit Arthur with Hugo, Hugo will confess to him that it was he who
broke through the checkpoint.

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3b.  Hugo v. Chris pt. 1

This occurs at the end of Hugo's chapter 1 right after Lulu is killed.  If you
play Hugo's chapter 1 before Chris' chapter 1, you will have the option to
simply ask "Why?!" or "You'll pay dearly!"  The second option puts you in a
duel with Chris.  Picking "Why?!" gives the following dialogue:

Hugo, still holding Lulu, looks at Chris:  "Why?!  I demand to know why!"
Chris closes her eyes and looks down:  "I did not know a child was attacking
me."
Hugo lays Lulu down and stands up:  "The truce was a lie.  It was a lie to make
this easier for you!"
Chris:  "No!  Not true!"
Hugo prepares to draw his dagger but Sgt. Joe stops him.

If you picked the more violent option, you get 3 rounds to duel Chris.  I've
never beaten her but I believe it is possible.  I've lost on purpose and the
scene that follows was the same if it was a draw.  After fighting her, the
following scene takes place:

Hugo stands at the ready, breathing heavily with his dagger drawn.  Salome
rushes up on horseback, followed by Roland and some Zexen infantry.  Sgt. Joe
gets in front of Hugo to keep him back and Salome does likewise with Chris.

Salome:  "Captain, we are ready to go."
Sgt. Joe:  "Hugo, don't!"
Hugo:  "Stay out of my way, Sergeant!"
Chris sheathes her sword:  "..."
Salome:  "Let us be gone.  Time is still of the essence."
Chris turns her horse around and silently walks away from Hugo with the rest of
the Zexens.  She does not look back at Hugo, Sgt. Joe, or Lulu.

Regardless of which choice you picked, the rest of the scene plays out the same
with Sgt. Joe telling Hugo that he is Lucia's son and he doesn't want him to
meet the same fate as Lulu.

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3c.  Chris receives Jimba's memento [updated]

In Hugo's chapter 1, you can deliver Jimba's pentacle to Chris' butler.  If you
did so and did not play Chris' chapter 1 yet, you will see Chris receiving the
memento at the end of her chapter 1.  Chris sits on her couch after coming
back from the Zexen Council meeting.

Chris:  "Whew!  I'm terribly tired."
Butler:  "If it's not too much of a bother, might you spare a few minutes,
madam?"
Chris:  "Sure.  What do you need?"

The butler leaves to retrieve the pentacle and Chris stands up as he comes
back into the room.

Butler:  "Lady Chris."

He hands Chris the pentacle and she examines it closely.

Chris:  "This coat of arms is..."
Butler:  "Yes, milady, this belongs to the Lightfellow Family.  And..."
Chris:  "It is!  It belonged to my dear father..."
Butler:  "As you say, milday..."
Chris:  "Where did you find it?"
Butler:  "A Grassland boy brought it here in your absence.  Don't worry.  He
was paid fairly for his efforts."
Chris:  "A boy from the Grasslands..." (Chris looks off in the distance,
probably wondering if the "boy" is Hugo whom she met earlier)

If you did not deliver the memento or if you played Chris' chapter 1 before
Hugo's chapter 1, Chris simply sits down at her chair and says, "The Oath of
the Knights..."  By the way, whether or not you took any reward for delivering
the pentacle as Hugo, the butler will still tell Chris you were "paid fairly".
In that same scene when you play as Hugo, if you don't take any reward and say
it was just a favor for Jimba, Hugo will pass on Jimba's message that the
Zexen who owned the pentacle died heroically.  The butler fails to relay this
part of the message regardless of what choices you made.

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3d.  Geddoe v. Borus

This occurs in Geddoe's chapter 1 during the Zexens' raid on Karaya.  After
talking with Queen, you can opt to fight Borus or simply sneak past him.  If
you pick the fight option, the following occurs:

Geddoe:  "I have an inkling...If my opponent is none other than Borus, one of
the Mighty Six Zexen Knights, I will be content."
Queen shakes her head:  "You have some odd inclinations.  Very well, I'll go
with you.  Let me leave a sign first."

Queen draws a sign in the ground and the two of them calmly walk up to Borus.

Borus:  "And you are?"
Geddoe:  "I am your opponent, Borus."
Borus:  "Why side with cowardly savages who have killed our knights in such a
dishonorable fashion? (he swings his sword) This warrants a fight!"
Geddoe draws his sword:  "Good.  That's exactly what I want."

After he's beaten, we see Borus on the ground on one knee with Geddoe and Queen
standing over him.

Borus bows his head:  "How careless of me..."
Geddoe sheathes his weapon:  "Perhaps you're too sentimental.  Not very
becoming for a knight."
Borus looks up at him:  "Grrr..."
Geddoe:  "This is also a coincidence, I suppose..."

Geddoe and Queen calmly walk past Borus.  Two mounted Zexen Knights block their
exit and draw their swords.

Borus:  "Hold it!"
Knight:  "Sir Borus?"
Borus:  "Stop it...Those two are not our enemies."
Knight:  "Not our enemies?"

The Knights put away their weapons and stand aside.

Queen looks back at Borus:  "Well, excuse me."
As they walk away, Borus stands up:  "Gather the troops.  Hurry."

If you opt instead not to fight, this happens:

Geddoe:  "We should stay out of this if we can."
Queen nods:  "I guess.  Let me leave our sign."

Queen draws a mark in the ground.  Geddoe draws his sword and says, "Let's go!"
The two make a break for it and are spotted by Borus, who swings his sword down
at Geddoe.  Geddoe parries his attack and the two lock swords as Queen runs by
them.  She throws a flash bomb at the Zexens, temporarily blinding them as she
and Geddoe run to the exit.  Borus orders the Zexens to follow but are cut off
by a hail of arrows that land right in front of them (I'm guessing Jacques).

The scene afterwards where Geddoe's team re-assembles on the area overlooking
Karaya in flames is the same regardless of what choice you made.  Unlike the
vast majority of the optional battles in the game, I think this one is worth it
to do.  Geddoe and Queen are usually mid-20's level in this fight and can gain
about 3-4 levels along with 100+ skill points each.  In case you're wondering,
if you did the level 99 trick with Chris (see suikosource.com if you want to
know what the trick is), Borus will not be at level 99 in this fight.

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3e.  Borus and Percival discuss the Karaya Raid

You can view this scene during Thomas' chapter 1 when he's given the letter to
deliver to the Zexen Knights.  At Brass Castle, go to the room with the bujutsu
trainer and you will see Borus and Percival in the corner by the stairs.

Percival walks up to Borus:  "What do you want to talk about, Borus?  Something
on your mind?"
Borus nods:  "Yes, as a matter of fact there is."
Percival:  "That's a new one!  Fearless and reckless Borus--the man who doesn't
even know the word 'consequence'--is troubled?"
Borus closes his eyes and looks down:  "Don't tease me, Percival."
Percival's face turns serious:  "Is it about Karaya Village?"
Borus:  "Yeah."
Percival:  "Don't tell me you're..."
Borus:  "No, that's not it.  I'm not going back on the pledge I made to Lady
Chris.  It's just that..."
Percival:  "Spit it out, man."

Borus turns and walks up to the wall, putting a fist to it.

Borus:  "It's not bad to be passionate, especially about our work.  It's a good
trait for a knight.  We live and die by the sword.  But I went too far!  I let
anger control me!"
Percival:  "I think I would've done the same thing if I'd heard about the
Lizard Clan's surprise attack and Myriam and Lanchet's deaths.  I'd be furious!
Who wouldn't be?"
Borus:  "But when a knight starts to attack unarmed villagers, (he pounds the
wall with his fist) he's no longer a man.  He's an animal!"
Percival:  "..."

The scene fades to black and we see Cecile and Thomas hiding behind the weapons
racks.  They can't hear what the two Knights are discussing and are promptly
found out by a guard.  They leave the room without further incident.

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3f.  Thomas meets Chris [NEW]

If you played Chris' chapter 2 before Thomas' chapter 1 and visited Lake Castle
with her, you will definitely see this scene.  You may still see it even if you
didn't do it in this order but I'm not sure.  After Thomas finds the document
stating that Lake Castle is a free trade area and he appoints Sebastian to be
innkeeper, go to his bedroom and elect to Rest.  The scene picks up as Thomas
wakes up.

Thomas stretches out and yawns as he awakes.

Thomas:  "...Another day of work..."
Cecile and Sebastian together:  "T-Thomas!"

They rush into the bedroom as Thomas tries to calm them down.

Thomas:  "What's the matter?"
Sebastian:  "W-Well..."

We see Chris entering the waiting room on Lake Castle's second floor.  We then
get Thomas' POV as he looks at Chris through an open crack in the doorway.

Thomas:  "That's..."
Cecile:  "That's the commander of the Zexen Knights.  How amazing!  Who
would've thought Lady Chris would come to our castle?"

Sebastian:  "What are you talking about?  This can only mean...This can only
mean that our free trade area has become known to the Council.  What are you
going to do Thomas?  The commander of the Zexen Knights herself has come here.
How will we get out of this one?"

Cecile:  "I guess they found out about it right away.  That's our Zexen Knights
for you."
Thomas:  "I'm not afraid.  I'll simply explain the way it is."
Sebastian smiles with relief:  "If anyone can sway them, it's you, sire.  I
doubt if they'll execute you right away, if that's any consolation."
Thomas:  "H-Hey, don't scare me like that."

The scene then plays out as in Chris' chapter 2 where she agrees to turn a
blind eye.  It picks up afterward as we see Cecile, Sebastian, and Thomas at
the gate looking at Chris as she trots away on her horse.

Thomas:  "Whew!  Just as Sebastian said, I think I lost ten years of my life."
Cecile:  "But, thank goodness you weren't executed on the spot.  I was all
ready to fight them off."
Thomas:  "Hahahaha...But that Lady Chris sure is incredible, isn't she?  It's
not that she's scary...How can I put it?  I guess it's too complicated to
explain."
Sebastian:  "I guess even the most noted heroes suffer hardships like the rest
of us.  I suppose she sympathizes."
Thomas nods:  "I suppose."
Sebastian:  "It's not like we haven't suffered our share.  At least we still
have bread to eat.  Which reminds me, I'd better bake some for tomorrow!"
Thomas:  "Uh...I suppose."

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3g.  Goodbye, Iowa--Saint Loa Knights' farewell

If you did Hugo's sidequest with Melville in his chapter 1, at the start of
Chris' chapter 2 you can view this scene.  Before meeting Borus at the gate, go
to the Guild Hall area.  You will see Melville, Alanis, and Elliot standing by
the area you would enter to go to the shops.  Credit Tatooine Ozzel from the
gamefaqs message board for correcting my mistake-I previously stated that this
scene took place during Chris' chapter 1:

Alanis is standing in front of Melville and Elliot.  They all have their heads
down.  Alanis looks up at them and speaks.

Alanis:  "...I have to go now.  My father is waiting."
Elliot:  "I will never forget about you, Alanis!  I promise!"
Alanis:  "Are you sure?  You are so forgetful, you know."
Elliot:  "I won't!  You can depend on it!"
Alanis nods:  "Thanks."
Elliot turns to Melville, who is still looking at the ground:  "You have to say
goodbye, too, Melville."
Melville:  "..."
Alanis:  "Melville..."
Melville looks up and approaches Alanis:  "Alanis...I just want to say that the
Saint Loa Knights will exist as long as we live.  So you will..."
Alanis:  "I will what?"
Melville:  "...I'm giving you a mission, Alanis.  As the Second Knight and
'Silver Maiden' of the Saint Loa Knights, you'll accompany your father this
day.  However, you must also promise to return to us one day.  Deal?"
Alanis nods and smiles:  "...Deal!  We will meet again.  I know we will!"
Elliot nods:  "Yes!  Now it's time to do our thing.  Who knows when we'll get
another chance?"
Melville:  "What's 'our thing'?"
Alanis:  "Are you really going to do it this time?  You were too shy before."
Elliot:  "I'm ready!  Let's do it!"
Melville steps back:  "All right.  Are you ready?"

The screen fades to white.  I cannot give this scene its just due-there's a
rapid succession of cuts and zoom ins/zoom outs as the three of them do their
victory poses.  Some camera rotations and the "hero" music add to the flavor:

Melville strikes his pose:  "I am Melville, the Swordsman of Rage of the Saint
Loa Knights!"
Alanis does her pose:  "I am Alanis, the Silver Maiden of the Saint Loa
Knights!"
Elliot's turn:  "I am Elliot, the Swordsman of Gale of the Saint Loa Knights!"

The camera highlights each of them in turn.

Melville:  "Together, we are the Saint Loa Knights!"

The camera cuts quickly frame by frame away from them then zooms back down to
them in their heroic poses.

Elliot:  "We did it!"
Melville:  "Ha, ha, ha, ha!  All right, Elliot!  You made it all the way
through without a hitch this time!"
Alanis:  "That's the way it should be every time.  Keep practicing, Elliot,
until we meet again..."
Elliot:  "OK!"

The three of them stand at ease.

Alanis:  "Well, I guess this is goodbye."

Alanis steps toward the camera, passing between Melville and Elliot.  As she
approaches, she smiles and closes her eyes.  Melville and Elliot run up.

Melville:  "See ya, Alanis!"
Elliot:  "Don't forget us!"

The screen fades to black.  We see Chris smiling as she regards the scene.

Chris:  "Hee hee.  The Swordsman of Rage must be Borus and the Swordsman of
Gale must be Percival.  I hope Leo doesn't sulk about that."

Chris heads to the gate where Borus and Louis are waiting.

Louis:  "Good morning, Lady Chris.  Are we leaving now?"
Borus:  "What took you so long, milady?  Did you stop by somewhere?"
Chris:  "I had a vision of the future Borus and Percival."
Borus:  "Future me and Percival?  What does Lady Chris mean?"
Louis:  "No idea, sir."
Chris:  "Never mind, just a daydream.  Come on, we have to hurry back!"

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3h.  Chris v. Lucia [updated]

If you do Chris' chapter 2 before Hugo's chapter 2, you will be given the
option to duel Lucia during the Zexen raid on the Great Hollow.  After Lucia
tells Chris she has the blood of innocent Karayans on her sword, you are given
the option of saying nothing or telling Lucia to stop her false accusations.
If you choose the latter, Lucia challenges you to duel.  If you pick no, Chris
smiles and shakes her head, saying the following:

"I cannot.  It is a disgrace for a Zexen Knight to fight that way with a
barbarian."

Since this is smarmy and totally out of character for Chris, I'd advise you not
to pick it.  If you accept Lucia's challenge, then you go into a real duel
where you can win or lose.  If you lost, you see Lucia standing over Chris who
is on one knee and breathing heavily.  The other Zexen Knights rush to her aid
to prevent Lucia from delivering the final blow.  Chris tells them to stop
their attack and orders a withdrawal.  If you beat Lucia, the following scene
plays out:

You see Chris standing with her sword drawn, breathing heavily.  Lucia is on
one knee with the Grassland warriors behind her.

Lucia:  "So you...are a...hero for...a reason."
Chris:  "The outcome has been decided, Chief of Karaya."

Beecham and a Karaya Fighter rush in front of Lucia.

Beecham:  "You'll not take our leader's head before taking mine!"

If you choose not to duel Lucia by picking ".....", then Salome speaks up on
Chris' behalf, saying the Zexens will wage war if that's what the Grasslanders
want.  Lucia retorts by saying their sneak-attack massacre is not what the
Karayans call war.  At this point, you can have Chris speak up and say the
Knights will do their duty to protect Zexen.  If you choose the other option
("But..."), Roland speaks up for Chris and says they will defend Zexen.

Regardless of what choices you made, a Zexen soldier runs up to Salome to tell
him the Harmonian Army is on the move.  If you beat Lucia in a duel, she will
tell Chris that she won't forget this defeat.  If things ended peacefully with
no duel, Chris walks away and tells Lucia to stop calling her "White Maiden."

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3i.  Lilly attacks! [NEW]

This scene occurs in Hugo's chapter 2 in the Ancient Highway when you encounter
Luc's group at the giant door.  The way to see this scene:

-When Sgt. Joe asks what you make of Luc's group, pick either choice because
 this doesn't matter ("Hard to say" or "They don't look like allies")
-When Sgt. Joe asks what you should do next, pick "Hmm, what's the best way"
 then agree to Lilly's plan to attack.  This gives you the scene and is the
 only way to avoid the fight with Yuber.

The scene in its entirety starting with the correct dialogue choices:

Reed:  "Why don't we just decide what we're going to do.  We can't hide here
forever."
Sgt. Joe:  "He's right."
Hugo:  "Hmm, what's the best way..."
Lilly stands up:  "The answer is obvious."
Samus:  "?"

Lilly stands to face the rest of the group, a scowl on her face and her fists
tightly clenched.

Lilly:  "Frontal assault!" (she nods in agreement with her own proclamation)
Hugo:  "I agree."
Reed:  "Don't be absurd!  (Lilly glares at him)  Ahem, milady."
Sgt. Joe:  "We don't know enough about them for something like that."
Fubar agrees:  "Kuuee!"
Lilly:  "What?!"
Hugo:  "I agree with Lilly."
Lilly turns to face him:  "My Hugo...you understand!  It's so sweet of you to
always say how right I am.  (she turns to address the others)  Now, let's
kill'em all!"
Sgt. Joe looks at Hugo:  "Bad move, boy."

The screen fades to black and we see Luc's group still trying to open the door.
They decide to leave and try again later.

Lilly:  "Attack!!!"

The sound of triumphant music plays as we get a full "hero" shot of Lilly and
the others.  The camera shoots upward toward their faces, making them look
like giants with Lilly in the forefront with her hands on her hips.  Luc's
group turns to look at them.

Yuber:  "!"
Sarah:  "Karayan...survivors?"
Lilly:  "Charge!"

Lilly rushes toward the screen as the others look on in utter astonishment at
her actions.  They stare at each other for a second then follow her lead.  The
camera shifts and we see that Lilly has "courageously" charged--the exit going
past Luc's group that is.  Luc and his team look after them, stupified.

Albert:  "Fools!"

Hugo's team has escaped, the heroic music still playing behind them.

Luc:  "But...how?!"
Albert:  "..."

The screen fades to black and we see Hugo's team hunched over in exhaustion
from heroically sprinting away.  Lilly turns to face the group and smiles.

Lilly:  "Now that was dangerous.  Our valor is commendable."

Sgt. Joe and Hugo, still exhausted, look at her in amazement.

Sgt. Joe:  "That is quite an analysis, considering we ran away!"
Lilly:  "What are you huffing and puffing about?  They never had a chance!  We
were too much for them!  But let's pick up the pace, just in case they come
after us."

I'm not sure how this scene carries over to Luc's POV since it's replayed in
that scenario.  I'm too Suikodened out to play through the entire game again to
see the difference but if I do one of these days, I'll note it.

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3j.  Geddoe v. Duke and Luc

Sounds like a Dukes of Hazzard reference.  Anyway, in Geddoe's Chapter 2, when
you encounter Duke's team in Mt. Senai you have the option of fighting them or
simply walking away.  Picking the first choice will throw you into a battle
with Duke, Elaine, Nicolas, and Gau, followed by another battle with Luc and
Sarah.  Picking the third choice ("That Bishop is up to something") will avoid
both fights.  This is the other fight that I think is worth doing.  You won't
get any items, but the experience and skills point boost from Luc and Sarah
are pretty good, not to mention the satisfaction of beating Duke's team.

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3k.  Hugo v. Chris pt. 2

If you do Hugo's chapter 3 before Chris' chapter 3, you are given a couple of
options when you meet her in Chisha Village after fighting off the Harmonians.
If you pick to question Chris, the following occurs:

Hugo approaches Chris:  "You took his life.  You took my home.  Why?  What are
you doing in Grassland?  You don't belong here!  This is our village.  What do
you care what happens to it!"
Chris looks down:  "..."
Hugo:  "Why are you helping us 'barbarians' all of a sudden?"
Nash steps in front of Chris:  "Adults have their reasons.  You children who
see the world in black and white will learn soon enough about shades of grey."
Hugo:  "Out of my way!"
Sgt. Joe:  "Hugo, stop."
Hugo:  "Why protect him, Sergeant?"
Sgt. Joe:  "I know how you feel, but this isn't the way."

If instead you opt for the "Strike" option, this happens:

Hugo starts to draw his weapon, but before he can pull his dagger out, Nash
has stepped in front of him with his weapon already drawn and pointed at Hugo.

Nash:  "That's an interesting way to greet an acquaintance."
Sgt. Joe:  "Don't do this Hugo."
Hugo:  "Don't stop me, Sergeant.  I can avenge Lulu right now!"
Sgt. Joe:  "I know that, and I meant what I said: Don't do it."

The rest of the scene plays out the same regardless of what option you picked-
Sgt. Joe tells Hugo about his responsibilities now and in the near future.  The
scene later when Sgt. Joe asks Chris about Zepon's murder is also the same.

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3l.  Chris recruits Gordon

The below scene occurs if you take an all-male party to recruit Gordon with
Chris.  I found it pretty funny much like when Chris recruits Mel so I've
included it:

Gordon turns from behind the counter to see Chris and her party.

Gordon:  "Behold, this beautiful lady!  If you can tolerate the squalor of this
poor shop, you are free to peruse my humble offerings."
Chris:  "Um, okay."
Gordon:  "Dear patron, do you feel well?  Your face shows a change in color
that may be less than desirable."
Chris:  "Really?  Perhaps these trying times are taking their toll on me."
Gordon:  "That cannot be allowed, Miss.  Life must be enjoyed, to avoid sapping
the youthful vitality from your wholesome figure.  Would you care to join me at
the fine terrace cafe nearby?"
Chris:  "Thank you for your kind offer, but I'm too busy."
Gordon:  "It's necessary to forego one's duties on occasion.  I would close
this shop now if you would indulge me!"
Chris turns to face her party:  "Someone save me!"
Gordon:  "Oh, are you in the company of others?  They must be your servants!"
Chris:  "No, no, these people are..."

The screen fades to black as Chris explains.

Gordon:  "Ah hah!  So those are the circumstances...I too wish to serve you.
No position or task is beneath me.  Might I be allowed to serve you...in any
way you see fit?"
Chris:  "Very well, I accept your offer."
Gordon:  "A fine decision, Miss.  Now where shall we go?  Lake Castle?  Ooh la
la!  The castle at the lakeside shall be our bed of roses!  Leave the
arrangements to me.  I'll go now and take care of everything before you arrive.
I bid you farewell for now."
Chris:  "Bed of roses?"

Poor Chris.  After this scene and her time with Nash, she reminded me of one of
those women on those "Date From Hell" episodes on "Blind Date."

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3m.  Chris recruits Mel

I had Chris' Zexen Knights with her plus Watari when I recruited Mel just so
you can picture some of the interactions.

Mel:  "Huh?  Are you talking to me?  Am I a street performer?  No, I'm not.
Oh, Branky?  This is Branky.  Introduce yourself, Branky."
Branky:  "Hee hee hee!  I'm the one and only Branky!  And you, my little vixen-
I'll be your vassal any time!"
Chris:  "..."
Branky turns to Mel:  "Hee hee hee!  But Mel, you're always my first choice.
This lady here is a fine catch, but she's starting to show her age a bit
around the forehead."
Mel frowns:  "How rude! She's just frowning at you.  I'm so sorry.  Branky
causes many furrowed brows.  Forgive him."
Chris is pissed:  "Not a problem."

Mel walks up to Chris and "Branky" gets a closer look.

Branky:  "Mel, you win!  She has crow's feet around her eyes!"

Chris takes an angry step toward Mel, who starts bowing incessantly in apology.

Mel:  "I'm so sorry!  Really!  Branky!  Some things can't be said, understood?
Watch your mouth!"

Mel slams Branky repeatedly into the side of a wall.

Mel:  "Understand?!"
Branky:  "You're hurting me?  Stop it!  Stop!  Aarrrgggghhh!"
Mel:  "Understand?!"
Branky:  "I made a mistake!  I apologize!  Just stop it!"
Chris:  "..."

Mel calms down:  "How can I ever make up for his rudeness?  He's got a trashy
mouth and it needs to be washed out with soap!  Please excuse him!"
Chris:  "All right, I make mistakes, too."
Mel turns to Branky:  "See?  Now it's your turn to apologize."
Branky bows to Chris:  "I was a bad little boy."
Mel:  "So, did you want to talk to me about something?"
Chris:  "I wish you'd come to Lake Castle.  People would love such a talented
ventriloquist!"
Mel looks confused:  "Ventriloquist?  I don't follow you.  I have no talent or
tricks.  Isn't that right, Branky?"
Branky:  "Hmmm...There wouldn't happen to be a lot of young men waiting at that
castle, would there my lady?"
Mel:  "You little fiend!  What are you saying?!  Don't do that!  So, um, what
is this castle like?"
Chris:  "Oh, there are some other people there, of course."
Branky:  "Mel, I think you should go.  You might be needed there to fight for
justice."
Mel nods:  "I guess I can't argue with that.  I've made my decision.  I will go
to Lake Castle."

Mel hurries off as Chris and her party turn to watch her leave.  Chris turns to
her party who all look at her silently.

Chris:  "So much for being selective!"

They all turn to look the other way then look back at her.

Chris:  "I have wrinkles already?!"

Everyone in her party silently shake their heads.

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3n:  Hugo recruits Belle

Hugo walks up to Belle, who's busy pounding away at Gadget Z.  Sensing Hugo
behind her, she stands up.

Belle:  "Huh?  Hold on.  I'll be with you in a..."

Belle turns and sees Hugo for the first time.  She starts to shake nervously.

Belle:  "Oh, nice to meet you!  I'm Belle.  I like to play with metal.  No!  I
mean, I enjoy reading books.  And I like, um...strawberry pie!"
Hugo:  "Greetings!  I'm Hugo of Karaya.  What are you up to?"
Belle:  "We were searching for someone when this pile of...when my friend, um,
broke.  I'm alone and helpless, you see, so I'm in a tight spot..."
Hugo looks at Gadget Z:  "Broke?  This strange-looking barrel?"

Belle explains the "barrel" is a machine that's missing one of its screws.

Belle:  "I'm not sure what to do.  If only a handsome, kind person were to come
by and help..."
Hugo:  "I can help you.  You need me to find a screw?"
Belle:  "Really?  Thank you so much!  Thank you!  Thank you!  Well, yeah, I
want, um...I need you to...to find the screw, right!"

After you return the screw:

Belle:  "Wow, you found it!  You're the greeeaaaatest guy I've ever met!  Now
Gadget Z will finally work again."
Hugo:  "Gadget...Z what?"

After Belle inserts the screw, Hugo is amazed ("A talking barrel!").  Before
Gadget Z can brag about himself, he promptly breaks down.  Hugo suggests taking
it to Lake Castle so she can repair it and Belle agrees.  Gadget asks if Belle
isn't sick since she doesn't sound herself.  Belle decides to "repair" him.

Gadget Z:  "Belle's so pretty.  Belle's so smart.  Belle's my dream girl."
Belle:  "Stop it, you're embarassing me!  Now then, we're ready to go to Lake
Castle! (she turns to face Hugo) Dear Hugo, please promise you'll meet me, uh,
I mean us again at the castle.  Okay?  Bye-bye!"

When you use Thomas, Geddoe, or Chris to recruit Belle, she comes in at 5
levels higher than the person who recruited her (if you loaded Suikoden 2 data,
that is).  When I used Hugo to recruit her, she was 15 levels higher.

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3o.  Hugo and the Saint Loa Knights reunite

If you did Hugo's sidequest with Melville, then use Hugo to recruit Billy, 
Melville, and Elliot, you will get a few dialogue sentences concerning Hugo's
familiarity with them.  If you use Hugo to recruit Alanis, you get the
following scene:

Melville and Elliot approach Alanis at the waterfall.

Melville:  "Alanis?"
Alanis:  "Melville?  And Elliot too!"
Elliot:  "Wow!  Alanis!  What are you doing here?"
Alanis:  "And you too...in this place!"
Hugo:  "Alanis?  The Saint Loa Knight?"
Alanis turns to see Hugo:  "Hugo?!"
Hugo:  "Yeah, you said you were moving but...the Great Hollow?"

Alanis' "uncle" steps up to greet her.  Alanis explains how they were caught by
the Lizard Clan and how she befriended her "uncle."  Melville suggests to Hugo
that Alanis and her family be allowed to move to Lake Castle where the other
lizard fighters are staying.  Hugo's request is accepted and Alanis and her
lizard uncle say their farewells.  Alanis is sad to be leaving him.

Melville:  "Don't cry, Silver Maiden Alanis.  This isn't goodbye forever.  I
know we'll meet again someday."
Alanis takes a deep breath and wipes away her tears:  "I'm not crying Swordsman
of Rage Melville!  I know I'll see you again.  And I'll see you, too, right
Swordsman of Wind Elliot?"
Elliot:  "That's right!  The three of us will always be friends!"

Elliot strikes his hero pose.  Melville and Alanis join to stand next to him on
each side.  Alanis does her pose.

Alanis:  "Saint Loa Knights forever!"
Melville follows suit:  "The Three Zexen Knights!"

Lizard Uncle:  "What's this?  I didn't know you were a knight, little one,
Alanis."
Hugo has a big smile on his face:  "All three of them are knights.  I've seen
them in action."
Lizard Uncle:  "Humans.  You can't rely on your eyes much."

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3p.  The final battles

When you form your parties to fight Yuber, Sarah, and the True Wind Rune at 
the Ceremonial Site, use the "default" parties for each character to see a 
conversation when they enter the hallway leading to the battle.  These parties 
would be Geddoe, Ace, Joker, Aila, Queen, and Jacques; Chris, Salome, Percival, 
Borus, Roland, Leo, and Louis; and Hugo, Sgt. Joe, and Fubar (does not matter 
who else is in the party).  Note that if you use these parties for the Flame 
Champion, you will not see a conversation leading to the battle.  Instead, 
you'll receive a conversation as the party escapes the Ceremonial Site.  I have
covered these scenes in each of the 3 main characters' Endings sections.

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3q.  Futch and Viki with Luc

If you take Futch and elder Viki with you to the last battle with Luc, you
will get specific dialogue related to their past history with one another
(credit Raikochan from the gamefaqs message board for posting about this).

The dialogue occurs after you've defeated the Guardian Eyes and are about to
take on Luc:

Viki:  "This is going to be the final battle, right?  We're up against Luc,
aren't we?"
Futch:  "Luc, I'll always remember when we fought side by side.  Come on, [FC]!
We've got one last battle to fight!"

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3r.  Sasarai and Dios

This hidden scene is actually two parts.  At the end battles in the Ceremonial
Site, you can pick Thomas and Cecile to be in one of the parties that goes to
fight Yuber or Sarah.  If you do so, you will get to see a different scene
when Sasarai and Dios go to get the True Earth Rune.  The first part cuts off
when Dios spots Luc when you play the Flame Champion perspective.  The second
part is seen in Luc's POV.  The scene in its entirety:

Dios and Sasarai walk down the pathway leading to the True Earth Rune Pedestal.

Dio:  "Are you sure you don't need a hand, Master Sasarai?  You should have
accepted their offer.  That skinny boy might not be helpful, but we could have
used the armored girl."
Sasarai:  "That's OK, Dios.  This is not a matter for outsiders."
Dios:  "Hey!  Don't leave me behind!"
Sasarai:  "Why would I?  I'm paying you to help!"
Dios:  "True, true.  But...Who is this?!"

The rest of the scene plays out the same.  Luc comes from around the corner and
then beats Sasarai in a duel.  Afterward, we see Luc standing in front of
Sasarai, who is on his knees.

Sasarai:  "Ugh..."
Luc:  "Brother, I need you to fix something."
Sasarai:  "What would that be?"
Luc:  "Leknaat didn't take away the True Wind Rune from me.  She felt sorry for
me and saved me, that's all..."
Sasarai:  "Why'd she pity you?"
Luc:  "You were born with the True Earth Rune, so they raised you to become a
bishop.  But I...was just a vessel for the rune.  So I ran away from the temple
when Leknaat invited me to come."

The rest of the scene is the same-the True Fire Rune is taken back and Luc goes
off to meet the Flame Champion for the final battle.


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4.  Character/Plot Analyses

4a.  Introduction

This section is for analysis of the main characters of the game as well as the
primary events of the game.  Thanks again to all those who have permitted me
to use their comments and viewpoints.  Much of the content in this section is
strictly subjective and is not meant to be the "final word" on the issues and
characters discussed.

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4b.  Conspiracy Theory-The Karaya Raid

This is the lynchpin event for Chris, Hugo, and Geddoe's chapter 1's.  How it
happened, what lead up to it, and what it provoked is a master stroke of
storytelling-if it weren't for one huge gaping plot hole you could drive a
truck through.  Here first is a chronology of the relevant events with a
step-by-step explanation afterwards.

The following are all the events preceding the ambush at the truce meeting:

-The Captain and Vice-Captain of the Zexen Knights are killed by Grasslanders
-A truce agreement is brokered between the Zexen Council and the heads of the
Grassland tribes
-The Zexen Council is contacted by a Harmonian representative, most likely
Albert, to enter into an agreement whereby Harmonia invades and Grassland is
divided up between Zexen and Harmonia
-The Council is also told that the Zexen Knights will be ambushed at the truce
meeting and possibly informed that Karaya Village would be torched
-Hugo is asked to deliver the Karayan reply by Lucia and heads to Zexen
-Chris is ordered by the Council to represent Zexen at the truce meeting
-Geddoe, following a lead on the Fire Bringer, heads to the Great Hollow to get
some clues from the head of the lizard clan, Zepon
-Hugo meets Chris at Brass Castle but is unable to deliver Jimba's memento
-A very specific meeting time is set for the truce between Dupa and Chris
-Chris, Salome, Borus, and Roland head out for the truce meeting
-Hugo is in Vinay Del Zexay, waiting to meet a council representative
-Luc, Sarah, Yuber, and Albert arrive at the Great Hollow; an illusion trap is
set in the pathways to lure the lizard fighters out
-Geddoe arrives at the Great Hollow
-Luc and Sarah go outside, setting up another illusion so they look like Chris
and a group of Zexen Knights
-Inside the Great Hollow, we see Shiba, Bazba, and Dupa (remember Dupa-this is
the gaping plot hole I was referencing)
-Sarah's trap is triggered, a group of lizard men follow it.  The group runs
into Sarah's illusion trap and mistake Geddoe's team for Zexens
-The lizard troops proceed outside and are killed by Luc and Sarah
-Geddoe's team and Shiba follow the trail outside and see "Chris" standing over
the dead lizard fighters
-His chamber now unguarded, Zepon is assassinated by Yuber
-Geddoe and Shiba fight "Chris"
-It is discovered by Dupa and the others that Zepon has been murdered
-Geddoe decides to head to Karaya to consult with Jimba and Lucia
-Hugo delivers the Karayan reply and gets ready to head back at dawn
-Word is sent with miraculous expediency to Percival and Leo that the knights
have been attacked and they are to arrest Hugo
-Hugo escapes and heads back to Karaya

What follows are the critical events and all happened on the same day:

-Geddoe and his team arrive at Karaya Village
-Hugo escapes Percival and Leo at Brass Castle
-Sarah warns Aila of the impending doom
-The Zexen Knights and Grassland leaders meet near Plain Amur for the truce**
-The Knights are attacked by the lizard clan; seeing their comrades in battle,
the Karaya Clan join
-Chris and her group escape the ambush and decide they will set fire to Karaya
-At Karaya Village, Luc and co. set fire to the village and set up the wall of
anger at the back of the village.  They then depart
-Chris' team arrives and she orders Borus to the back of the village, right
where Sarah had set up the wall of anger
-Chris enters the village and sees her father's armor
-Hugo's team arrives and Lulu is killed by Chris
-On the other side of the village, Geddoe confronts Borus who is chopping down
Karayan villagers.  Because the sight of dead Zexens and dead Karayans are not
a source of anger for them, Geddoe's team does not join in the fighting.  The
wall of anger's effects are dissipating and Borus lets Geddoe go
-Borus leaves the site of the massacre
-Chris makes her way to the back of the village and is appalled by the sight of
the dead Karayan villagers

**It's possible the two sides met for the truce the previous day and the scene
where Chris is informed of the ambush is actually a carryover of the Grasslands
festival from the previous day

The following events happen the next day:

-Geddoe's team decides to go to Caleria
-Hugo, Sgt. Joe, and Fubar head to Duck Village
-Back at Brass Castle, Borus lies to Salome then Chris about the massacre
-Chris is told that the Zexen Council has already been informed of yesterday's
events and she needs to go back to Vinay Del Zexay for a meeting with them
-Chris and Borus head back, both suspecting that the Council knew of the lizard
clan attack ahead of time
-Chris is infuriated that she is now being called a hero for the destruction of
Karaya Village.  Nonetheless, she is told Zexen must retaliate for the loss of
men and is ordered to attack the Great Hollow

And the aftermath:

-A snowball effect occurs as the Zexens attack the Lizard Clan, who in turn
raid Iksay Village during a festival
-Thomas is under siege for his position of Castle master by the same Zexen
Council members who wanted to form an alliance with Harmonia
-Salome learns of the Zexen-Harmonia alliance being brokered and enlists Geddoe
to help Thomas
-Thomas, with an assist from Geddoe, wins out over the Zexen Council
-Their position weakened because of this symbolic defeat, the Zexen Council
members who wanted to deal with Harmonia are nullified
-Albert's intent of driving a wedge between Zexen and the Grasslands comes to
bear, however, when the two sides can't agree to cooperate at Chisha when the
Harmonian Army attacks
-Rallying behind the Flame Champion, the new Fire Bringer expose Luc's plans to
Sasarai, cutting off Harmonian support for Luc
-Luc and co. are defeated by the Flame Champion and his/her army

Whew!

The evidence provided that the Zexen Council knew of the lizard clan attack is
offered at various points in the game.  First, after Chris' first meeting with
the council, two of the councilmen have a conversation about Chris' duty as a
Zexen hero.  One of them states that it is a hero's duty to die in glorious
battle.  Second, Salome's meeting with Geddoe in Geddoe's chapter 3 clearly
shows there is a conspiracy among the council to enter into an agreement with
Harmonia.  Third, Chris, Salome, and Borus all hint that the Council must have
known about the attack or else they wouldn't have responded so quickly.  In
addition, such an attack would give the Council clear provocation to send the
Knights back in to attack the Grasslands.  Fourth, the time frame for Leo and
Percival going to arrest Hugo can only make sense if the Council knew about the
attack ahead of time.  If you'll remember, when they go to get Hugo it is night
time outside in Vinay Del Zexay.  Hugo does not make it back to Karaya until
the _next_ day at dusk, the day when the lizard clan actually attacked at the
truce meeting.  Therefore, the Zexen Council _had_ to have known about the
attack beforehand.  It would also explain why they took so long to meet with
Hugo-so that he would still be in Vinay Del Zexay around the time of the truce
to be used as a hostage.  Lastly, it provides a good excuse that they did not
receive the Karayans' message until it was too late.

With this evidence, it's clear what the Council intended-weaken the Grasslands
armies with the Knights to make it easier for a Harmonian invasion.  The
Knights, already reeling from the death of the Captain and Vice Captain, would
not need much bait to get them to attack.  That bait is the attack at the truce
meeting.  The Council's logic is that if Chris dies at the battle, great,
because this would _really_ whip Zexen and the Knights into a frenzy.  If not,
she'll come out a greater hero and, since she's bound by duty to serve Zexen,
will be an even more useful tool in getting Zexen support.

From Albert's perspective, this all goes in line with Luc's plot.  Once Luc
becomes Bishop, they intend to invade the Grasslands under the pretense of
acquiring the Runes for Harmonia.  As Luc states in his POV, he knows it's only
a matter of time before they're figured out and they won't be able to rely on
Harmonia's armies forever.  In order to maintain their advantage at this time,
Albert devises a plot to ensure that Zexen and Grassland will not be united
enough to meet their threat.  Albert devises the master stroke of setting up
the agreement with the Zexen Council and the subsequent events that drive an
even bigger wedge between Zexen and Grassland.  He tricks the Zexen Council
into believing this is a precursor to a Grassland that will be divided up
between Harmonia and Zexen, when the only reason the Harmonian Army moves in is
to re-acquire the True Runes.  As Sasarai states during the battle at Brass
Castle in chapter 4, the only reason Harmonia is in Grassland is by order of
Hikusaak to get the True Runes.  For his part in aiding the Bishop (Luc) who
helps to re-acquire these Runes, Albert will get a cushy position high in the
Harmonian hierarchy.

This all sounds great until you stop to think about Dupa.  If Dupa was in the
Great Hollow at the time of Zepon's death and knew "Chris" was there at the
same time, why didn't he attack her right out at the truce meeting?  The only
plausible explanation is that he was setting her up for a trap, knowing
beforehand that she had a part in killing Zepon.  But how would that explain
Chris showing up at the truce with blood on her hands and acting as if nothing
happened?  It turns into a dizzying logic that Dupa goes to the truce, sees
Chris, knows that Chris knows about Zepon, but they both decide to act really
cool about it until Dupa attacks.  Dupa then is left to reconcile how Chris
could be so smart as to assassinate Zepon right inside Great Hollow and be so
dumb as to not expect an ambush.

The better, and less annoying, explanation is that Konami simply messed up and
Dupa should not have been at the Great Hollow when Geddoe visited.  Rather, he
was on his way to the truce meeting already.  There is enough time, then, for
Shiba, Bazba, and the other lizard fighters to head to the truce agreement,
tell Dupa that Zepon was killed and Chris was there, and then they ambush the
Zexens.  From the lizard clan perspective, the Zexens knew the exact time when
the truce was to be signed.  On the eve of the truce, Chris leads a Zexen team
to the Great Hollow to kill Zepon in retaliation for the deaths of Galahad and
Pelize.  She then hurries to sign the truce to prevent any further retaliation
by the lizard clan-who will look like the villains for breaking the truce.

The other main plot point is Borus' situation.  It's my personal opinion that
he is not to blame for the massacre at Karaya Village.  He was under the
influence of Sarah's spell and could not be held accountable for his actions.
On the other hand, he should definitely be held responsible for lying about it
afterwards.  You could build a strong case that his lying about what happened
was even more damaging than if he were actually responsible for the massacre.
Because Chris and Salome believe Borus had nothing to do with the massacre,
they feel perfectly justified in attacking the Great Hollow.  This, in turn,
leads to the lizard clan's raid on Iksay.  These attacks then lead to the
wedge that further divides Zexen and Grassland, making them ill-prepared to
take on the Harmonian army.  Therefore, it's not a great leap of logic in terms
of cause-effect to state that Borus' denial had a significant hand in elevating
the conflict past the point of no return.

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4c.  Luc

Luc is one of the most interesting and well-developed villains in any RPG I've
played (and I've played them since Adventure on the Atari 2600).  What makes
Luc so compelling to me is that I can see and understand his justifications for
his plot, even if the end result of that plot is evil and heinous.  He is
absolutely sure that the world will end in the termini he shows the Flame
Champion at the end.  In order for the world to avoid this fate, he will
sacrifice himself and a million lives.  He plays important roles in Suikoden I
and II and sees firsthand thousands of lives lost in order to bring about a
result for the greater good.  How, he can understandably think in his mind, is
my plot any different?  He cannot see the important distinction that the lives
taken and given were matters of human _choice_, not some vague notion of
destiny.  Teo chose to fight Tir and died, Luca chose to use the Beast Rune to
murder the people of Muse, the soldiers in all the armies chose to give their
lives for their countries.  When Luc decides to destroy the True Rune, he is
making the choice for the million people he intends to kill under the notion of
defying destiny.  This makes him a murderer.  When he is defeated, he states
that his fate was bound by destiny.  He only sees point A and point B-he
ignores all the things that had to occur to make the end result possible,
namely his decisions and those of the Fire Bringer.  He provides his own self-
fulfilling destiny, believing he was made only to be a vessel of power (the
True Rune) and information (the Rune's memories) and that is ultimately all he
becomes.  He never actually makes any real choices of his own until the very
end.

That Luc is so sincere in his belief puts him over the top of most conventional
villains.  He truly believes the termini will occur and those who bear True
Runes such as he are consigned to an empty, eternal life.  When he snatches
Geddoe's True Rune, he tells him that perhaps this will prove to be a blessing
for him.  When lives are taken, they are not out of malice but out of necessity
to accomplish the ultimate goal of avoiding the termini.  Not once in the game
does Luc kill anyone when it doesn't fall into his plans and several times in
the game he shows mercy when he can.  This includes trapping Geddoe in Mt.
Senai and leaving Chris in Kuput when he could've had them killed outright.  In
addition, in his own POV he is given the choice to kill a Karayan fighter or
let him live.  Luc, then, is not a cookie cutter psycho villain in the same
vein as Luca Blight, but moreso like Jowy.  There are not only reasons and
proper motivations for his actions, but his actions bear out these reasons and
motivations.

Although he is clearly one of the villains in the game, Luc possesses several
qualities similar to that of tragic heroes.  In that context, his fatal flaw
(like many protagonists in Greek tragedies) is hubris.  He is immortal,
powerful, smart, and resourceful but lacks the ability to see past his own
flaws.  When we first meet Luc in Suikoden I, he pulls the equivalent of a
High School prank by summoning the Clay Guardian to "test" Tir and his party.
In Suikoden II, he baits Viktor into an argument then tells him he should be
ashamed for picking on a kid.  His primary personality traits as displayed in
the first two games were haughtiness and immaturity.  We do not understand the
reasons why until Suikoden III-he is a True Rune bearer who does not have any
real experiences of his own.  In a nutshell, he is an immature god.

When Hugo, Geddoe, and Chris confront him as Flame Champion, they each stress
to him the importance of the here and now.  Luc has no comprehension of what
"living" is-the only interactions he has had with the world were forced upon
him when Leknaat made him serve in Tir and Riou's armies.  He cannot see how
everyday things such as friends, being with loved ones, serving as a knight,
etc. can be important if the termini is the world's ultimate fate.  Therein
lies the crux of his arrogance-he believes that if others knew of the termini,
they would choose the same path as he does (which is why he shows the termini
to the Flame Champion).  When he is rebuked by the Flame Champion, he
references himself by saying they don't understand him.  Because of his pride,
it never crosses his mind that the real problem is that Luc doesn't understand
_them_.

As well-written and defined a character as Luc is, I really hope he will not
come back in Suikoden IV.  The final scene with his and Sarah's souls leaving
Leknaat's tower brings his story to a satisfying conclusion.  However, because
his soul is now a part of the True Wind Rune (much like Yun and Jimba are part
of the True Water Rune), it's possible he'll be back.

Nanami writes:

"I disagree with the picture you paint of Luc. While I love the boy dearly and
agree with your statement of him being one of the all-time greats in villany,
there is one comment in your analysis that I must argue on:

'In order for the world to avoid this fate, he will sacrifice himself and a 
million lives.'

The 'sacrifice' part...I don't think that's true. While, yes, he -is- planning
on taking himself out to tip the scales against termini, I think he's merely
planning to take out two birds with one stone. During the epilogue, I always
felt that Luc was suicidal. The idea of eternal life looked so horrible to him,
he decided to take the best way out: through death. The conversation he has
with Jimba, in particular, shows this."

DelRaycowboy adds:

"I don't know if Luc ever thought his plan would actually work.  At the end
when he says he's also bound by destiny I think it shows he knew he was going
to fail.  So instead of trying to destroy his rune he was just trying to figure
out if he was really human and had a soul.  In his POV he's more centered on
his own humanity when talks to Sasarai at Crystal Valley then Yuber at the end
battle when Albert walks in.  If you think of it like this where he knew his
plan to kill a million people wouldn't work, then all of it was to answer a
simple question: am I human?  The answer at the end from Leknaat was pretty
cool when you think about it."

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4d.  Yuber

Yuber's calling card is that he is a bringer of chaos.  He certainly has
accomplished this in spades throughout the Suikoden series.  I simply don't
understand why he was presented as such a weakling in Suikoden III.  Let me
first distinguish between a character in terms of stats and the character in
terms of story.  In terms of stats, Yuber is a monster-he is in the same class
as Emily and Hugo when it comes to being a pure fighter.  In terms of the
storyline, he's a total wuss.  In close to a dozen encounters with Yuber, you
can win all of them except one, the rigged fight with Hugo in Chisha.  He calls
you maggot on many an occasion and talks about how much he'll enjoy killing you
the rest of the time.  That he fails in practically every attempt would turn
him into a laughable villain if it wasn't so pathetic.  It's as if you want to
pat him on the head like a little kid to prevent him from getting up and
getting his butt kicked again.  If they wanted to properly bring up Yuber as a
serious threat and villain, they should've held him out until the final
encounter (ala Barbarossa) or simply made it seem very lucky that you were able
to defeat him, if at all.  Getting beat by Lilly then having her leer over him
wasn't exactly the way to portray him as a "badass."

timmyshoop writes:

"yuber's not a wimp.  yeah, you can beat him in a lot of the battles, but how
many people do you think actually do it?  just look at the suikosource board
and you can see how many people have problems with him...like you said he's
supposted to be there to stir up trouble and he's done this in every game.
he's no luca who's just a psycho and windy who was a wimp, yuber has a purpose
and keeps coming back no matter how many times you beat him.  he's no coward
becuase he keeps coming back and ready to fight.  in every strategy battle hes
the first guy to charge right at you.  he's also always in front unlike luc and
sarah who have a bunch of monsters in front.  if the computer AI wasn't such
crap there's no way you'd win a lotta those fights.  even tho your guys get to
heal themselves all the time yuber never does it once.  for sure how many times
did you have to heal your guys when you fought him?  i wish he had the armor
from the other games but he's still a total badass."

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4e.  Sarah

The main problem I have with Sarah's character is that she is too uneven.  It's
as if the writers didn't know the exact direction they wanted to go with her
character and ended up with a spaghetti approach (throwing everything against
the wall and seeing what sticks).  At first, she's entirely devoted to Luc and
to his plan, despite the consequences.  Yet she goes to Karaya to warn Aila,
possibly messing up Luc's plan (it's hard to murder villagers if there aren't
any).  Next, she's presented as being compassionate to the plight of Franz and
those in Le Buque.  She promptly turns around and taunts Borus about the
Karaya massacre, knowing full well _she_ was the one responsible for it.  She
chastises Yuber for his taste of blood and death, yet actively participates in
it.  The final nails in the coffin were her telling Franz, who has been a
_slave_ all his life, that he is the one who has freedom and later telling Hugo
that living in ignorance is a sin (pot-kettle-black).

Joshua009 writes:

"I totally disagree with you on Sarah.  She's just like Barbarossa to me, she
loves someone who she knows is doing something evil but out of love she stays
with them.  When she goes to warn Aila it's not to screw up Luc's plan.  She
tells Aila that a million people will die but that the Karayan villagers didn't
have to be a part of that.  I thought this made it clear that she was trying to
do Luc's plan while sparing the innocent Karayans.  I don't consider what she
did to Borus as 'taunting'.  She probably knew she was going to have to fight
for the True Water rune so she was just trying to throw him off.  I'll give you
that she kills people with her magic but she's not like Yuber where she harms
anyone when it's not a part of Luc's plan.  When she tells Franz that he's the
one who really has freedom, she's talking about Luc and how his destingy was
bound the instant he was created.  He's truly had no freedom.  And don't forget
she was also raised in Harmonia so she would know what being a slave is like.

...Anything she does is out of her love and devotion for Luc.  Put it this way,
if Luc's plan was for a better purpose don't you think Sarah would've thrown
everything she had behind that as well?  Her morals come through in the end
when she accepts the consequences for her own actions.  As a matter of fact
this is the only time in the game when she disagrees with Luc and it's to face
up to the crimes she committed.  I think back to Viktor's comment about Ain
Gaide in Suikoden 1.  He says that even though Ain was wrong for sticking up
for a corrupt empire, wasn't the fact he was willing to give his life for
something he believed in still precious?  That he would be willing to honor his
loyalty to Barbarossa?  Sarah's not at all 'uneven' as you say.  On the
contrary, I believe her character is a terrific example of the Suikoden themes
of destiny and how finding meaning in life fits in with that."

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4f.  Albert

As for Albert, he's the epitome of an idiot savant.  He devises a genius
strategy for getting the True Runes and manipulates the Zexens, Grasslanders,
and Harmonians like a master.  His goal, of course, is to get a cushy position
in Harmonia.  One problem-the plan he's going along with will likely wipe out
Harmonia.  At the end when he's confronted by the Flame Champion and Caesar, he
backpedals and concedes there may be a small flaw in trying to get an
appointment with a kingdom that will soon be obliterated. (Really, you think so
Einstein?!)  In addition, he spells out to Luc that the Silverbergs have always
had a hand in steering history in the right direction.  How exactly does wiping
out Zexen, the Grasslands, and Harmonia and killing a million people put
history on the right track?

Vivamagic writes:

"Albert's not an idiot... You make it sound like he was stupid and didn't know
what could happen.  You miss the point that he didn't think Luc's plan would
actually work. He brought it the plan as far as suited his purpose then left
it at that.  He never did anything that went outside his own plans. If you
think about Luc's plan, it couldn't work unless he got all the elemental
true runes.  Didn't you notice how every time Luc actually got a true rune
Albert wasn't there?  That he means he never actively helped Luc carry out the
plan that you keep saying would destroy Harmonia.  When you see it from this
view, when he tells Luc about setting things on the right track it's just so
Luc won't suspect him.  Everything he says is calculated so Luc and the others
will think he's really into their plan when all he wants is to elevate his
status.  This is why at the end it was no surprise to see him helping out
Caesar.  He got what he wanted so now he was doing everything to preserve the
plan.  When he said things were getting too dramatic it means he never thought
Luc would get this far."

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4g.  Chris

The primary event I think most players will associate Chris with is Lulu's
death.  All circumstances aside, I don't consider her a murderer because she
acted out of self-defense.  Lulu doesn't die if he doesn't attack Chris first,
it's that simple.  The comments of Sgt. Joe and Hugo would also imply that in
storyline terms, Chris was not at fault.  Sgt. Joe tells Hugo that Lulu knew
the risks of taking up a weapon against an enemy, namely that his own life
could be taken.  At the end of Hugo's story as Flame Champion, he tells Chris
he knows a hero shouldn't hold a grudge for what happened to Lulu even if he
still does.  Given the warrior nature of the Karaya tribe and the fact you can
use Lulu as a fighter (as opposed to simply support such as Louis or Elliot), I
would say he knew full well what the consequences could be by attacking Chris.

The main question regarding Lulu's death is, were he and Chris influenced by
Sarah's wall of anger?  It's debatable, but I believe the answer is yes.  The
second part of that answer, though, is that the anger spell must have worn off
right after Lulu is killed.  The main evidence for me actually comes from
Geddoe's chapter 3.  While in Vinay Del Zexay, Aila takes a swipe at Borus,
very similar to what Lulu does to Chris.  Borus easily disarms her without
hurting her.  Conventional wisdom suggests that Chris could have done the same
in the split second she had after Louis warned her.  Instead, she draws her
sword and slashes.  The sight that provokes Chris into anger is the sight of
her father's armor.  Her comment after seeing it, "This village...we'd be
better off without it" is out of character for her.  If you'll remember, when
she was outside the village, she gave Salome specific orders not to harm the
villagers.  Add into this her feelings after the Karaya raid when she tells the
Council she should not be a "hero" for the village's destruction.  Finally, the
sight of the dead Karayans at the back of the village infuriates her.
Therefore, her comment and actions when Lulu is killed strongly suggests she
was under the influence of the anger spell.

The second part that the anger spell must have worn off after Lulu's death can
be corroborated by the fact that Borus must have regained his senses at that
time and took off from where the massacre took place.  In addition, the default
choice for Hugo's reaction is to question Chris, not attack her.  Sgt. Joe and
Fubar also do not attack Chris, and Chris does not attack them, either.

LuBuCaoCao writes:

"Chris is the only main character that bothered me.  She's even worse than
Thomas when it comes to being a gutless wonder.  At least he's got an excuse
that he's just a kid.  First, about what you said about Chris being influenced
by Sarah's spell.  I doubt this because when she meets Jimba in Iksay and he
even mentions something about her dad, she pulls out her sword and gets ready
to chop him down.  Since this points to her not being influenced by the spell,
it means she killed Lulu because she couldn't control her own personal
feelings.  I also think it's a stretch to say the spell wore off right after
Lulu died.  It's just too much coincidence.

The other thing is how she's so willing to do anything the Zexen council says,
even when she knows it's wrong and that they may be manipulating her for their
own plans.  At no point does she not have a choice to simply say, 'This is
wrong and I'm not going to do it.'  You remember Miklotov from the last game
when he got fed up with Gorudo. He realized it's more important to do what's
right and breaking from your lord if what they tell you to do comes at the
expense of your own beliefs.  The same with Alan and Grenseal.

Instead of trying to change the problem at its source, she simply obeys the
council, the same council with the same selfish powermongering plans that are
still in place by the end of the game.  At least Thomas stood up to them and
you saw the results.  Chris may be a strong game character, but with the
storyline she's a weakling who just doesn't have it in her to bring about real
change for the better."

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4h.  Geddoe

Geddoe is the closest thing to the "silent" hero of both Suikoden I and II.
Out of the three main characters, I found him to be the "coolest"; his rebuttal
to Luc after his spiel about changing destiny was priceless:  "Time to grow up,
kid."  When he said that, I thought that's exactly what Viktor or McDohl would
say.  Because his main storyline is so detached from Chris and Hugo's, I find
it more satisfying to play his chapters 1-3 consecutively.

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4i.  Hugo

Out of all the main characters, I found Hugo to be the most boring.  No offense
to any of his fans out there.  While he certainly has all the qualities of a
great hero, brave, resourceful, etc., there's not much to set him apart in
terms of his story or actions to elevate him past being just vanilla.  If he
were the only primary hero of the game, I would've said he was a huge step
down from Tir and Riou.  Most of what he does or what's interesting is mainly
due to the characters around him, especially Sgt. Joe along with Lilly, Chris,
and Luce.

The most intriguing thing about Hugo is who his father might be.  Other than
Lucia's comment in chapter 2 in the Great Hollow that Hugo is a lot like his
father, I can't think of any other reference.  In Lucia's Kidd profile, it
states that Lucia had Hugo shortly after she came back from the Dunan
Unification War.  Since she obviously wasn't too far along in her pregnancy
when we see her in Suikoden II, this leads to some interesting possibilities as
to who the father is.  Was it someone involved with the war on the Highland
side, like Culgan, Leon, Jowy, or (shudder) Luca?  Several story elements seem
to point to a Suikoden IV that's set only after a year or two after Suikoden III
(the main thing being the fate of the True Wind Rune).  Perhaps we'll find out
about Hugo's father, then.

EvilSpike writes:

"...but I gotta disagree with you on Hugo.  It's obvious you played through his
story as flame champ so I don't see how you can he's boring.  His story was the
best because it realistically shows somoene being forced to grow up after
something terrible happens to them.  Up until then it looks like his only
worries were riding his horse and coming home for supper.  After Lulu is
murdered by Chris, he has to grow up in a hurry.  We see him lashing out as any
young boy would.  He starts with trying to get back at Chris then blaming
himself.  Time after time, we see him doing the right thing but also still
lashing out just like you'd expect a kid to do.  He's working his way toward
being adult so to speak.  When he becomes flame champion he puts aside his
personal feelings for both Zexen and Grasslands.  In the end when he hugs Chris
he knows he shouldn't hold a grudge but still wishes her well.  It's more than
I'd do if someone murdered my best friend right in front of me.  Not to mention
he's the best fighter among the three and he absolutely rocks when he's got
Fubar."

Jonezy424 adds:

"...they set the game for Hugo to be FC. The true water is Jimba's, so it makes
sense that Chris gets that rune.  Yun souls in it too.  Ged's only good if he
has the true lightnig and he's had that for years.  When Ged says it was like
years ago then he should have true lightning and Chris true water since it was
Wyatt's.  The first FC was also from Grassland and Hugo is the only one from
there.  If you look at magic stats Ged is best with lightning, Chris with water
and Hugo is ok with fire.  In the opening anime you also see that Hugo is the
one fighting the fire rune."

SternAndMond adds this on Hugo's father:

"Well, if you look at Kidd's profile for Lucia it says she had Hugo right after
she came back from the Suikoden 2 war.  Doesn't this say someone she met during
Suikoden 2 is Hugo's dad?  The only guys that make sense would be Jowy, Culgan,
Seed, Sasarai, and Han since she was on Highland's side.  She came in well
after Luca died and he doesn't fit her line that Hugo was like his dad, a good
man."

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4j.  Hugo + Chris + Geddoe = McDohl?

Kasumi writes:

"did you notice how chris, hugo and geddoe were all 1/3 part Tir? Hugo is the
young kid who's never been away from his hometown.  he leaves and sees all the
evil in the world.  he even gets arrested for something he didn't do.  oh yeah
he gets a true rune.  chris is the one tied to her country but fights back when
she decide to do whats right.  after someone she feels close to dies, even
though she only knew them for a little she decides to fight for her own
principle.  this was odessa for Tir and yun for chris...geddoe is the silent
part.  he says very little except when he has to.  he also kicks ass with his
true rune.  all 3 lead an army made up of different peoples.  but all 3 still
don't add up to 1 Tir :-D"

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4k.  An (edited) rant on Apple, Chris, and Teleportation

Bonaparte writes:

"you know what really [ticked] me off the most? apple.  how stupid can 1 person
be?!  when hugo losses his rune and sarah uses the illusion army, apple says
something like this can trick peple but not kill.  hello!  didn't you serve in
a [big] war when someone gated in mosnters?  haven't you been with a whole
bunch of people who can teleport everywhere?  didn't you set up a party to take
out the person summonig the illusions?  she's so [darn] clueless...maybe if
she wasn't so dumb someone might have figured out it was a trap.  I guess she
was too busy practicing that hissy fit dance of hers to get a clue.

...Chris is almost as stupid as apple.  after eveyone knows about the illusions
at karaya and the lizard clan, she still goes with yumi without even thinking.
even after all the stuff about alma kinan sticking to themselves and never
going away from home they up and go out 2x in like a week?  I guess it only
takes enough [friendly] brains to cut down a kid than it does to use common
sense.  of course, Chris is the one who thinks fubar's a suit with 2 little
karayans inside and sergeant joe is a ventriliquist.

I hope they cut out all the [dumb] teleporting too.  let's see, yuber can do
it, sarah can do it, luc could do it, hell even the little blue mosnter with
the red bikini did it at the end.  albert the [not so bright person] could
even summon monsters at the end.  i'll wait for suikoden 4 where we'll fight
mukumuku who's gone bad and can now summon monsters and teleport.  after you
beat the [stuffing] out of him he can still swipe your true rune and all your
money and the story won't change.  here's a tip for konami: just make it so
everybody can teleport and summon monsters in the next game.  or better,
summon a plot and teleport a decent ending."

Ouch.


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5.  Flame Champion Stories

5a.  Introduction

The information provided for this section details what happens right after you 
have chosen a Flame Champion.  The information in brackets [], indicates
these scenes are universal regardless of who you pick as Flame Champion.
Because the middle portion of Chapter 4 and start of Chapter 5 are virtually
identical for all three main characters, I have separated each character's
story from their endings with these chapters serving as the middle gap.
Chris does have a major scene unique to her as Flame Champion and I have
noted it in her Story section.  Because you get to pick the Flame Champion's
name, I have indicated it simply by using FC.  In the event of having options
for conversations, I always picked the more "positive" one.  For example, when
you first confront Luc's group after getting the True Fire Rune, you can elect
to fight him or hand over the Rune.  The "positive" choice is to not hand it
over and fight.  The end result is the same regardless of what choice you pick
so I've taken out the negative choices for the sake of brevity (you're not
missing much, either).


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5b.  Hugo's Story

Hugo glances at Chris and Geddoe.  He approaches the table where the staff and
outfit worn by FC lie.

Hugo:  "During my first battle, I lost my best friend.  Sergeant said it's all
part of war, but I'd do anything to have enough power to stop that kind of
thing from ever happening again."

Hugo walks up to the table.

Hugo:  "FC, Mr. Flame Champion...We need the power you possessed.  So can you
please lend me...Can you please let me have the power?"

Hugo reaches for FC's staff and the scene fades to white.

[Sana states that you will follow in the path of FC, and that it was his wish
for you to first pass a test.  After agreeing and setting up the party, you
face the Fire Dragon.  After defeating it, you acquire the True Fire Rune.]

Hugo:  "I did it.  I have proven myself."

[Sana greets the 3 main characters and leads them out of the room.]

As Geddoe and Chris walk out, Hugo stops them and speaks.

Hugo:  "Lady Chris...Geddoe...I hope I'm the right person for this.  I have no
idea why I was chosen as the new bearer of the True Fire Rune..."

A voice interrupts:

Luc:  "He shouldn't bear the Rune if he doesn't understand its true purpose or
meaning."

[Sana is startled by the appearance of Luc, Yuber, Sarah, and Albert, and asks
how they were able to enter.  Luc replies that Sana herself unsealed the
chamber.]

Hugo, with a surprised look on his face, addresses Yuber:  "Hey, I saw you back
on the highway!"
Yuber:  "Oh, yeah, I remember you.  How could a kid like you ever bear a True
Rune?  Life has strange twists, I guess."
Hugo:  "Damn!"

[Luc demands the True Fire Rune.]

Hugo clenches his fist:  "I won't give you the rune!  This is a token to show
that I took over the spirit of the Flame Champion!"

[After beating Luc and co., the bad guys are surprised that you may have
already unlocked the True Rune's power.  Luc attempts to use his True Wind Rune
to subjugate the True Fire Rune, but the spirit of the Flame Champion blocks
his attempt.  The main characters' parties suddenly reappear next to their
leaders.  Albert suggests a strategic retreat and Sarah teleports them away.
As he is leaving, Luc states he will allow you to keep the True Fire Rune for
now.]

Sgt. Joe:  "Hey, what's going on?  Where the hell am I?"

The screen fades to white and Hugo awakens from a bed in the Chisha Village.

Hugo:  "Unh, this is strange.  Where am I?"
Sgt. Joe walks in:  "Look, it's Hugo!  Hello!  You ought to know where you are.
You've been here before.  You're in Chisha Village."
Hugo:  "How can this be?  I thought...I escaped from the cave where the Flame
Champion was lying and..."
Sgt. Joe:  "You fainted, that's all.  And you gave us quite a scare!  Sana said
it could have been because you used your True Rune power...You look exhausted!"
Hugo sits up:  "I think I remember something...but it's all fuzzy.  Hey,
Sergeant, what's happening outside?"
Sgt. Joe:  "Quite a bit, actually.  There's a broad representation of clans out
there.  Let's see, there's the Karaya Clan, the Lizard Clan, and the ironheads,
along with Harmonian Mercenaries.  I can't believe they're not fighting by
now."
Hugo:  "Why are they all here?"
Sgt. Joe:  "Chief Lucia and Salome, one of the Zexen ironheads, agreed that the
conflict was the responsibility of the Harmonian army.  Even if it's true, no
one will believe it.  Especially not the Lizards.  Their chief was murdered,
you know.  They won't be easy to placate."
Hugo:  "That is true.  I won't be appeased easily, either.  I'll never forget
Lulu."
Sgt. Joe:  "..."
Hugo:  "But still..."

[You leave the room and make your way to the entrance to Chisha.  There,
a contingent of Zexens, Karayans, and Lizards are arguing.  Salome is trying to
convince Dupa that the Zexens who attacked when Zepon was assassinated were
phantoms created by a mage.  Dupa doubts him and Beecham says it was no mirage
that Karayans were murdered during the Zexen raid.  Percival replies that each
group needs their land to survive and Harmonia is a threat to them all.  Bazba
states that Harmonia has always been afraid of the Flame Champion and would not
dare attack.]

Hugo walks through the middle of the assembled crowd and approaches Lucia.

Lucia:  "Hugo..."
Hugo:  "Mom."

Bazba:  "The rune of the Flame Champion now belongs to Hugo, the son of Chief
Lucia, chief of Karaya, one of the Six Clans.  We can never lose now that we
have the new Flame Champion with us!  Neither Harmonia nor Zexen can defeat
us!"
Hugo:  "..."

Hugo raises a clenched fist into the air.

Hugo:  "Hear me now!  I am the bearer of the True Fire Rune.  It's in my right
hand.  I have taken over the rune left by the hero FC and his spirit as well!"

Hugo lowers his head and pauses.  He then speaks again.

Hugo:  "I really wanted to be a hero.  A powerful one, too!  And I wanted to
promise to never repeat the events of that night when I lost my friend Lulu."

He turns to Chris.

Hugo:  "But I wanted to take revenge against you, Chris, to avenge Lulu's
death."
Chris:  "..."
Hugo:  "But then I was upset when I saw you fight for the Chisha Clan.  I
didn't want an ironhead fighting for Grassland.  You were supposed to be our
enemy!  But now...after everything that's happened...I think I understand.
It's simple.  You couldn't let people be slaughtered senselessly before your
own eyes.  Not anyone!  It's that simple.  And I'm sure the Flame Champion FC
felt the same way too.  I fought with the Harmonian magician in the cave of
the Flame Champion!  They said they were looking for the rune.  Harmonia has
no fear of Grassland, and..."

[A Lizard Clan member interrupts with the message that a large Harmonian Army
is attacking.  The Grasslands leaders immediately rush off to meet the threat.]

As she's running off to join the battle, Chris stops to regard Hugo.

Chris:  "Hugo, you are overestimating me.  I am a knight, and I never hesitate
to bloody my sword in battle.  Yet...What you said just now rings true as well.
I guess I must seem like a hypocrite."

[You decide to join the fight as well.  After getting walloped by the Harmonian
forces, the Zexen and Grasslands forces retreat to Duck Village.  Hugo helps a
Karayan comrade into the village, while Chris gives orders to the Zexens, and
Queen and Aila tend to the wounded.  You walk into the inn and see an argument
between Salome, Dupa, Lucia, and Beecham.  They cannot agree to trust each
other or to form an alliance to face the Harmonian threat.]

Hugo walks to the entrance of Duck Village to see a Zexen messenger inform
Chris, Salome, and Percival that the Harmonians have dispatched a third
division against them.

[Back at the inn, the Grasslands leaders tell Chris and Salome they intend to
take the Harmonian Army head on.  Chris and Salome both state that taking a
direct attack approach would be suicide.  Dupa replies that this is their plan
and the Zexens can fall in if they want or not.  The Grasslands leaders leave
the inn as Chris pounds her fist on the table in frustration.]

Hugo consults with Apple, Caesar, and Sgt. Joe outside.  Apple states that she
believes a huge portion of the Harmonian Army is actually phantom images.
Instead of taking on the Harmonians, she wants Hugo to lead a small team to
disrupt the concentration of the mage conjuring the images.  Aila joins the
conversation at this point and states she knows what the mage looks like and
can track her down.  Hugo agrees to the plan and heads out with Aila and Sgt.
Joe to carry out their plan.

[The Harmonian Army, with help from the Mantor units, quickly pushes back the
attack of the Grasslands teams.  Chris and the Zexen Knights appear and make
one last effort to convince them they should not be enemies.  The Zexens offer
to cover the Grasslanders'retreat to Brass Castle.  After mulling it over,
Lucia and Dupa agree and withdraw from the battle.  Chris informs the Zexens
they do not need to defeat the Harmonian Army, only to stall it for a little
while.]

Sarah is shown in the middle of a group of Harmonian soldiers, her staff raised
in the air as she concentrates to summon the phantom army.  Hugo, Aila, Sgt.
Joe, Caesar, and Apple have tracked them down.  A group of Harmonian soldiers
spot them but are quickly dispatched.

Hugo regards Sarah:  "You must be the mage!"
Aila:  "I don't know what you are up to, lady!!!"
Sarah:  "What...Damn, I can't focus!"

Another contingent of Harmonian soldiers are sent after Hugo and meet the same
fate as the others.

Hugo:  "Hmmm.  The Harmonian army's not such a big deal after all."
Aila:  "You think we're afraid of your phantoms?  Hah!  Where are they now?
It's just you and me, lady!"
Sarah:  "You...are the bearer of the True Fire Rune..."
Hugo:  "Last time, the rune saved me, but this time, I will do it on my own!"

Hugo takes out Sarah and her Harmonian entourage.  After the battle, Sarah
stands bent over, exhausted and leaning on her staff.

Sarah:  "Damn it!  This will be disastrous!"
Hugo:  "Come on, just a little bit more!"

Yuber suddenly appears next to Sarah.  He motions his hand and bone soldiers
appear between Hugo and Sarah.  He disappears with Sarah despite Hugo's efforts
to stop them.  Caesar says they accomplished what they came for and it's time
to go to Brass Castle.

[At Brass Castle, Caesar notes to you they have averted the total destruction
of the army and that despite the odds, he always has some tricks up his sleeve.
You go to the Brass Castle's parlor where the leaders of the Grasslands and
Zexen are again discussing the possibility of an alliance.  Caesar interrupts
them and states that they will need strategy as well as the cooperation of
forces outside Zexen and the Grasslands to defeat Harmonia.  Lucia vouches for
Caesar's opinions but states there are two problems.  First, they will need a
leader to unify the Zexen and Grasslands forces.  Everyone silently turns your
way in acknowledgement.  Lucia states the first problem is taken care of, but
the second is that the heart and morale of the soldiers also need to be won
over.  She states that after getting whipped by the Harmonian Army, they see
the enemy as an unbeatable opponent.  She tells Caesar overcoming this problem
will take more than sound battle strategy.]

Hugo goes off to the east exit of Brass Castle, where Sgt. Joe is standing.

Sgt. Joe:  "Hi, Hugo, what brings you out here?"
Hugo:  "Just wondering what you're doing, Sergeant."
Sgt. Joe:  "I'm on lookout.  The enemy might attack at any minute, you know."
Hugo:  "The colossal Harmonian army will advance sooner or later.  Do you
think we have a chance to defeat them?"
Sgt. Joe:  "If you're asking what I think our odds are, I can't say.  There
are no guarantees in war.  The only thing you can be sure of is that if we
lose, we won't get a second chance.  Does that make sense to you?"
Hugo:  "Sergeant..."
Sgt. Joe:  "Hmmmm..."
Hugo:  "Sorry."
Sgt. Joe:  "Hugo, the only thing I can do is keep a lookout.  But you should be
able to make a real difference.  After all, you have the True Fire Rune in your
right hand.  You're the Flame Champion's successor.  Think about that."
Hugo:  "I see."
Sgt. Joe:  "Hugo, you want to be a hero, don't you?  Think about Lulu."
Hugo:  "Okay.  I'll try, Sergeant.  But I don't know how far I can go..."
Sgt. Joe throws his arms up in the air:  "Hugo!  You sound pathetic!  If you
are the one, you must hold your head up and say, 'leave everything to me.'
That's what a hero would do."
Hugo:  "Sergeant..."
Sgt. Joe:  "Now, off you go!  The Grasslands need a hero."
Hugo:  "Yes, and I'll be the one!"

Hugo walks away, turns his head back toward Sgt. Joe and pauses.  Sgt. Joe
silently nods his head.  Hugo turns forward and runs back to the courtyard.  In
the courtyard, Hugo stands in front of the assembly of defeated Zexen and
Grassland troops.  He puts his hand over his heart and speaks.

Hugo:  "I am Hugo, from the Karaya Clan.  I was born and raised in the
Grasslands.  I didn't know the outside world until recently.  Take Zexen, for
instance.  All I knew of it was its name.  Now, things are different.  I've
seen the Grasslands and Zexen with my own eyes.  I was shocked at what I saw.
We, the people of the Grasslands, have looked down on Zexens as people not
blessed by the spirits.  And those living in Zexen think of us as barbarians.
This mindset has gone on for ages."

[The assembled troops look up at you.] Hugo pauses.  He clenches his right hand
into a fist and looks at it.

Hugo:  "The True Fire Rune I bear in my right hand keeps memories of the late
Flame Champion, FC.  It's taught me that human history is filled with wars and
conflicts.  The spirits of fire were seldom at rest, and peace never lasted
very long.  No matter how difficult the task, the Flame Champion never gave up!
He fought to protect the Grasslands!  He sacrificed everything to protect his
loved ones!  Sometimes a hero has to sacrifice everything!  I couldn't protect
my friend, my best friend.  But that didn't make me give up.  I don't want to
go through that misery again!  Do you?"

The camera shifts to show the different members of the Grasslands and Zexen
soldiers as Hugo continues to speak.

Hugo:  "Who do you want to protect?  What do you want to protect?  Which
memories do you want to protect?  Do you really want these destroyed now?  I
can't let that happen!  I won't!  Forget the differences between the Grasslands
and Zexen!  It's time we fought together to protect what we cherish!  Why not
go and fight?  Let's do it!  You say the Grasslands and Zexen can't unite?
Can't we just do this for the time being?"

[Slowly, the soldiers pick themselves up off the ground and, one by one, echo
your sentiments.]

Hugo raises the hand bearing the True Fire Rune into a clenched fist in the
air.

Hugo:  "I swear by the Rune in my right hand that I will be the Flame Champion,
FC's successor, and heir to his power, and that I will fight to protect this
land as FC would have done!"

[The camera pulls back from you, showing all the soldiers in the courtyard
cheering and raising their weapons in unison.  Lucia, Salome, Dupa, Apple, and
Caesar regard the scene, agreeing that they have a legitimate shot to beat the
Harmonian Army now that they have a true leader for their allied armies.
Caesar congratulates you on being the new Flame Champion.]

Hugo:  "Thanks.  I was almost too excited to follow what I was saying!"

[Caesar says it is time for the new army's first battle.  After organizing your
troops, you face the Harmonian Army led by Dios, Sasarai, Albert, and Yuber.
Along with the other two main characters and support from the main troops of
Zexen and the Grasslands, you face the Harmonians outside of Brass Castle.  You
speak to Sasarai, reminding him of the pact the Flame Champion made with
Harmonia.  Sasarai states that agreement has been over for a long time.  You
respond by stating that you carry the True Fire Rune and warn that the
Harmonians face the same destructive fate as their predecessors 50 years ago.
Sasarai and Dios understand the weight of words backed by the True Fire Rune
and send half of their army back to safeguard Harmonia.  After defeating these
forces, additional soldiers led by Mua, Hallec, Thomas, and Lilly arrive on
the field.  If you were able to get a major victory, you acquire a Silver
Shield.  Back at Brass Castle, the combined Zexen and Grasslands forces
celebrate their victory.]

Hugo enters the courtyard flanked by Sgt. Joe, Fubar, Mua, and Hallec.  A
group of soldiers from both Zexen and the Grasslands converge on them.

Sgt. Joe:  "You sure are popular around here."
Mua:  "It was a close victory, so they are very happy."
Hallec lets out a shout, startling Sgt. Joe:  "Wheeoohhh!!!!  We shed our blood
in war for the Flame Champion!!!!"
Fubar follows suit, fraying the poor Sergeant's nerves even more:  "Kuueee!!!"
Sgt. Joe flaps his arms wildly:  "Shut it!  Just shut it!!!"

[Lilly, with Reed and Samus in tow, enter and come up behind you.]

Lilly:  "Is that you, Hugo?  It's been a long time. (Her face turns into a
scowl)  You know, you had some nerve to leave without me."
Hugo:  (turns around to face Lilly) "Ohhhhh, ah, I'm sorry, Lilly."
Reed:  "You must be joking, Miss!  Weren't you going back to Tinto because the
caravan hadn't arrived?"
Lilly:  "Be quiet!  By the way, I heard the Flame Champion is around.  Where is
he?  Tell me!"
Hugo:  "Well..."
Lilly:  "What?"

Lilly turns around, her face turns into surprise when she sees Sgt. Joe calmly
pointing to Hugo.  The entire screen shakes as Lilly vents.

Lilly:  "Really?!!  You're the Flame Champion?!!  Why didn't you tell me?!!"

Lilly composes herself:  "I see, now I get it."
Sgt. Joe:  "Ohhhh!  That took a while."
Lilly:  "All right, count me in.  I don't want to see the Grasslands taken over
by Harmonia."
Reed:  "Ms. Lilly!"
Lilly:  "I will join the Fire Bringer tomorrow.  I don't mind being co-leader,
Hugo."
As Lilly walks away, Samus turns to Hugo:  "Phew...Tough luck, buddy."
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5c.  Geddoe's Story

Geddoe looks at the table where FC's staff and outfit are displayed.  After a
short pause he approaches the table.

Geddoe:  "FC...I enjoyed having you around.  I couldn't fight the curse that
came with the rune I bore in my body, but I admired your unbound and free-
spirited way of living."

Geddoe walks up to the table and looks over the staff.

Geddoe:  "When the True Rune bearer loses the rune, he suffers greatly and pays
a high price...You traded that mighty power for mortal life.  You abandoned
everything in order to share with your loved ones the little time that was
left.  I am jealous of you.  Very much so.  And now..."

Geddoe reaches for the staff and the screen fades to white.

[Sana states that you will follow in the path of FC, and that it was his wish
for you to first pass a test.  After agreeing and setting up the party, you
face the Fire Dragon.  After defeating it, you acquire the True Fire Rune.]

Geddoe:  "I did it.  I have proven myself."

Geddoe suddenly grabs his torso in pain as lightning energy crackles around his
entire body.

Geddoe:  "Oh...the...the pain!  Ugh..."

Hugo looks on and, almost involuntarily, raises and extends his right hand in
the air.  The symbol of the True Lightning Rune passes over his outstretched
hand as he receives the Rune.

Hugo:  "W-wait!  What the--?!"
Geddoe gathers himself, the painful process now over:  "The True Lightning Rune
I used to bear has been sent to a new bearer by the True Fire Rune now within
me."
Hugo:  "Me?  The True Lightning Rune?"
Geddoe:  "Yes."

[Sana greets the 3 main characters and leads them out of the room.]

As they exit, Geddoe stops to speak to Chris and Hugo.

Geddoe:  "This rune was once carried by a true friend.  I can't promise to
carry out his wishes, but I do know that I cannot allow anyone to taint the
rune through misuse."

A voice interrupts:

Luc:  "Your intentions are honorable, but are you positive you're doing the
right thing?"

[Sana is startled by the appearance of Luc, Yuber, Sarah, and Albert, and asks
how they were able to enter.  Luc replies that Sana herself unsealed the
chamber.]

Geddoe:  "Why...you..."
Albert:  "Watch your language, now...You're addressing the Bishop!  I see that
the Defense Units aren't training their dogs properly."
Geddoe:  "I know nothing of dog behavior, but I do know you're depriving some
poor village of its idiot!"

[Luc demands the True Fire Rune.]

Geddoe:  "I won't give you the damn rune!"

[After beating Luc and co., the bad guys are surprised that you may have
already unlocked the True Rune's power.  Luc attempts to use his True Wind Rune
to subjugate the True Fire Rune, but the spirit of the Flame Champion blocks
his attempt.  The main characters' parties suddenly reappear next to their
leaders.  Albert suggests a strategic retreat and Sarah teleports them away.
As he is leaving, Luc states he will allow you to keep the True Fire Rune for
now.]

The screen fades to white and Geddoe sits up in a bed in the Chisha Village.

Geddoe:  "What?"
Queen walks in:  "You took us by surprise, Geddoe.  You usually have your tough
face on."

Geddoe moves to sit on the side of the bed.

Geddoe:  "Yeah, whatever.  What happened?"
Queen sits down next to him on the bed:  "You fainted right after fighting the
Bishop.  The old woman, Sana, said it happened because you used the True Rune's
power.  Is that how it works?"
Geddoe:  "Could be."

Geddoe looks at his right hand with the True Fire Rune.  Queen looks at it and
puts her hand on Geddoe's to examine the Rune.

Queen:  "The True Rune...in your right hand...that's what killed my beloved,
Sanady."
Geddoe:  "...What's all that noise outside?"
Queen:  "Well, the Zexen Knights and the Karaya and Lizard Clans have all
gathered here in this tiny village.  The commotion was inevitable."
Geddoe:  "You mean to say that Lord Salome is here too?"
Queen nods:  "Yep!  He's trying to persuade everyone that Holy Harmonia
orchestrated the battle, but it's not easy.  Too much blood has already been
spilled."
Geddoe:  "It'll only get bloodier if we don't help.  The land occupied by the
Harmonian army..."
Queen:  "Geddoe, you don't have to tell me.  I know better than anyone."
Geddoe looks down:  "Sorry about that."
Queen:  "You--sorry?  What's wrong with you?  (she points to her head) I bet
that rune's affecting your brain."
Geddoe smiles:  "Heh heh heh.  You know, you might have something there."

[You leave the room and make your way to the entrance to Chisha.  There,
a contingent of Zexens, Karayans, and Lizards are arguing.  Salome is trying to
convince Dupa that the Zexens who attacked when Zepon was assassinated were
phantoms created by a mage.  Dupa doubts him and Beecham says it was no mirage
that Karayans were murdered during the Zexen raid.  Percival replies that each
group needs their land to survive and Harmonia is a threat to them all.  Bazba
states that Harmonia has always been afraid of the Flame Champion and would not
dare attack.]

Geddoe and Queen walk up to the assembled groups.  Geddoe looks at each of them
and stands in the middle of the groups.

Salome:  "Geddoe..."
Geddoe walks up to Bazba:  "So you think you can fight if the Flame Champion
leads you, eh?"
Bazba:  "You, who the hell are you?"
Geddoe raises his right hand, clenched in a fist, high in the air:  "I am
Geddoe.  The True Fire Rune that FC once bore in his right hand is now in my
right hand, along with his vision. (he turns his head to regard each person)
The Harmonian army will be advancing any minute now.  Why must you fight each
other?  Isn't there anyone here who can take over the spirit of FC, who
protected this land?"
Dupa:  "But still..."
Beecham:  "Even so..."
Geddoe:  "I know that there were unhappy encounters and battles.  And I also
know that it is hard to overcome hatred and sorrow, but we must guard what he
has preserved..."
Lucia:  "..."
Queen:  "If you don't do something now, this land will be occupied by the
Harmonian army, and they want vengeance--they haven't forgotten their defeat by
the Flame Champion.  You don't know what happened to the countries, towns, and
villages that were occupied by Harmonia, so you are indifferent to their
plight.  How can you be so conceited?!  You don't have time for such arrogance.
Don't you understand?  Don't you care about your lands?"
Dupa:  "..."
Chris:  "..."

[A Lizard Clan member interrupts with the message that a large Harmonian Army
is attacking.  The Grasslands leaders immediately rush off to meet the threat.]

A Zexen knight confers with Chris who orders them into the battle as well,
leaving Geddoe and Queen alone.

Queen:  "They are a bunch of slowpokes."
Geddoe:  "They can't help it."

Geddoe heads back inside the village, where Ace, Joker, Jacques, and Aila are
assembled.

Joker:  "Well, boss, what's next?"
Ace:  "How can they be so uncooperative?  Don't they know that the Flame
Champion's successor is right here?"

[You decide to join the fight as well.  After getting walloped by the Harmonian
forces, the Zexen and Grasslands forces retreat to Duck Village.  Hugo helps a
Karayan comrade into the village, while Chris gives orders to the Zexens, and
Queen and Aila tend to the wounded.  You walk into the inn and see an argument
between Salome, Dupa, Lucia, and Beecham.  They cannot agree to trust each
other or to form an alliance to face the Harmonian threat.]

Geddoe walks to the entrance of Duck Village to see a Zexen messenger inform
Chris, Salome, and Percival that the Harmonians have dispatched a third
division against them.

[Back at the inn, the Grasslands leaders tell Chris and Salome they intend to
take the Harmonian Army head on.  Chris and Salome both state that taking a
direct attack approach would be suicide.  Dupa replies that this is their plan
and the Zexens can fall in if they want or not.  The Grasslands leaders leave
the inn as Chris pounds her fist on the table in frustration.]

Geddoe consults with his team, who agree that the Harmonians will likely wipe
out the Zexens and Grasslanders.  Apple and Caesar walk up and inform them that
they have a plan.  Apple states she believes a huge portion of the Harmonian
army is actually phantom images.  Instead of taking on the Harmonians, she
wants Geddoe and his team to disrupt the concentration of the mage conjuring
the images.  Aila states that the mage Apple is talking about must be Sarah,
so she knows what the mage looks like.  Geddoe agrees to the plan and heads out
with his team to carry it out.

[The Harmonian Army, with help from the Mantor units, quickly pushes back the
attack of the Grasslands teams.  Chris and the Zexen Knights appear and make
one last effort to convince them they should not be enemies.  The Zexens offer
to cover the Grasslanders'retreat to Brass Castle.  After mulling it over,
Lucia and Dupa agree and withdraw from the battle.  Chris informs the Zexens
they do not need to defeat the Harmonian Army, only to stall it for a little
while.]

Sarah is shown in the middle of a group of Harmonian soldiers, her staff raised
in the air as she concentrates to summon the phantom army.  Geddoe's team,
along with Apple and Caesar, have tracked them down.

Geddoe (referring to Sarah):  "Is that her?"
Aila nods:  "That's her!"
Caesar:  "Remember, we just have to make her lose focus."
Geddoe:  "I see."

Geddoe's group charges in and quickly takes out a group of Harmonian guards.

Geddoe:  "I guess we hit it right."
Aila:  "I don't know what you are up to, lady!!!"
Sarah:  "What...Damn, I can't focus!"

Another contingent of Harmonian soldiers are sent after Geddoe's team and meet
the same result as the last group.

Geddoe:  "That's about it."
Aila:  "You think we're afraid of your phantoms?  Hah!  Where are they now?
It's just you and me, lady!"
Sarah:  "You...are the bearer of the True Fire Rune..."
Geddoe:  "The rune's power protected me then, but now..."

Geddoe takes out Sarah and her Harmonian entourage.  After the battle, Sarah
stands bent over, exhausted and leaning on her staff.

Sarah:  "Damn it!  This will be disastrous!"
Geddoe:  "Well, why don't you admit your defeat?"

Yuber suddenly appears next to Sarah.  He motions his hand and bone soldiers
appear between Geddoe and Sarah.  He disappears with Sarah despite Geddoe's
efforts to stop them.  Caesar says they accomplished what they came for and
it's time to go to Brass Castle.

[At Brass Castle, Caesar notes to you they have averted the total destruction
of the army and that despite the odds, he always has some tricks up his sleeve.
You go to the Brass Castle's parlor where the leaders of the Grasslands and
Zexen are again discussing the possibility of an alliance.  Caesar interrupts
them and states that they will need strategy as well as the cooperation of
forces outside Zexen and the Grasslands to defeat Harmonia.  Lucia vouches for
Caesar's opinions but states there are two problems.  First, they will need a
leader to unify the Zexen and Grasslands forces.  Everyone silently turns your
way in acknowledgement.  Lucia states the first problem is taken care of, but
the second is that the heart and morale of the soldiers also need to be won
over.  She states that after getting whipped by the Harmonian Army, they see
the enemy as an unbeatable opponent.  She tells Caesar overcoming this problem
will take more than sound battle strategy.]

Geddoe walks to the west exit of Brass Castle, where his team has assembled.

Ace shakes his head:  "This is so confusing.  We have no idea when the main
force will get here.  How will we know when to run away?"
Queen:  "Ace!!"
Ace:  "I know, I know...I was just joking."
Joker:  "So, boss, tell us...What's this connection you have with the Flame
Champion?"
Geddoe:  "The Flame Champion, FC, was a comrade whom I fought beside."
Aila:  "You knew the Flame Champion?  Wasn't it about some fifty years ago?
Damn!  How old are you, Geddoe?"
Geddoe:  "I'm at least 80 years old.  It's an effect of the Rune's power.  I
bore the True Lightning Rune in my right hand for years."
Queen:  "Oh, Geddoe."
Geddoe:  "The Flame Champion, FC, won a fifty-year ceasefire from Harmonia and
later died.  (he closes his eyes) But I couldn't live the way he did.  Even
when I fought beside him, I could never live a hero's life or bear a hero's
responsibilities."

There is a pause as Geddoe's team looks at him, digesting what he is saying.

Geddoe:  "Harmonia destroyed my homeland, too.  I was left with a True Rune in
my hand.  I ran away without fighting.  I grew accustomed to the idea of never
dying.  Even while fighting as a Fire Bringer, I wasn't living life to the
fullest.  (he shakes his head) What good is perpetual life if you're never
satisfied?"
Joker:  "So now..."
Geddoe:  "This time, I mean to fight.  Not for anybody else, but for myself...
So as of now, the Twelfth Unit of Holy Harmonia Kingdom's Southern Frontier is
dismissed.  Can you return to Caleria to report this?"
Ace:  "Huh?"
Joker:  "Hmmm..."
Jacques:  "Well, I for one...intend to remain here.  I didn't join the force
for money in the first place."
Queen:  "Don't treat us this way.  We're your friends, aren't we?"
Joker:  "That's right.  I have no home or family to return to, anyway.  I need
something to do before I die."

There's a pause.  Jacques, Joker, Aila, and Queen turn their heads toward Ace.

Ace:  "Don't look at me like that!  I don't want to see Vinay Del Zexay burned
down, either, you know, so count me in too.  But, let's not drop out of the
defense force.  I'll find an excuse."
Aila:  "I'm with all of you!"
Joker:  "Well!  I'm glad that's settled!  We're coming with you, boss.  You
can't dissuade us!"
Geddoe:  "Well, do as you like."
Queen:  "All right.  Let's get started, then.  At the moment, the Grasslands
and Knights are a herd of sheep without a shepherd."
Aila:  "What do you mean?"
Queen:  "He will take over as the Flame Champion, don't you see?"
Ace:  "Wow, the Flame Champion, Geddoe!  That's incredible!"
Joker:  "Calm down, Ace."

Queen simply looks at Ace and shakes her head.  Geddoe goes back out to the
eastern courtyard of Brass Castle and addresses the assembled group of defeated
Zexen and Grassland soldiers.

Geddoe: "I'm Geddoe.  I once stood next to the Flame Champion, FC.  I doubt if
you remember my name."

[The assembled troops look up at you.]

Geddoe:  "The True Lightning Rune, which I bore in my hand, gave me eternal
life.  But it has only been a life of pain and remorse.  Once, long ago, there
was a man who risked everything to protect this land.  He wasn't asked to do
it, nor did he wish to.  He started this desparate fight of his own free will.
You all know him well.  He was the Flame Champion, FC.  (Geddoe looks up to the
sky) Now his name has become a part of myth, and his good will has long been
forgotten.  That man risked his life for a woman and brought peace to this
land.  (he turns back to the troops)  He hated to be called a hero, because he
fought for the sake of himself and the ones he loved.  He hated being reminded
that fighting for this land was a hero's duty.  How did he win over Harmonia?
Just by being Champion?  Because of the rune he bore?"

Geddoe pauses, then clenches his right hand into a fist.

Geddoe:  "No, it was his devotion!  He cared more than anyone else!  Not about
his title but about the cause.  He was a true fighter!  How are we any
different?  Heroes don't make history.  It is history that makes heroes!  We
need to combine our weapons and stand shield to shield, side by side!  Just as
this man once did, can't we forget our bitterness and fight together to protect
what we hold dear?  We'll stand with our heads held high.  There is no Zexen or
Grasslands!  There is nothing disloyal about soldiers who love this land
wanting to fight side by side!"

[Slowly, the soldiers pick themselves up off the ground and, one by one, echo
your sentiments.]

Geddoe raises the hand bearing the True Fire Rune into a clenched fist in the
air.

Geddoe:  "I swear by the Rune in my right hand that I, Geddoe, will accept the
will of FC the Flame Champion and succeed him in his fight to protect this land
from all dangers!"

[The camera pulls back from you, showing all the soldiers in the courtyard
cheering and raising their weapons in unison.  Lucia, Salome, Dupa, Apple, and
Caesar regard the scene, agreeing that they have a legitimate shot to beat the
Harmonian Army now that they have a true leader for their allied armies.
Caesar congratulates you on being the new Flame Champion.]

Geddoe:  "I don't really feel comfortable."

[Caesar says it is time for the new army's first battle.  After organizing your
troops, you face the Harmonian Army led by Dios, Sasarai, Albert, and Yuber.
Along with the other two main characters and support from the main troops of
Zexen and the Grasslands, you face the Harmonians outside of Brass Castle.  You
speak to Sasarai, reminding him of the pact the Flame Champion made with
Harmonia.  Sasarai states that agreement has been over for a long time.  You
respond by stating that you carry the True Fire Rune and warn that the
Harmonians face the same destructive fate as their predecessors 50 years ago.
Sasarai and Dios understand the weight of words backed by the True Fire Rune
and send half of their army back to safeguard Harmonia.  After defeating these
forces, additional soldiers led by Mua, Hallec, Thomas, and Lilly arrive on
the field.  If you were able to get a major victory, you acquire a Silver
Shield.  Back at Brass Castle, the combined Zexen and Grasslands forces
celebrate their victory.]

Geddoe enters the courtyard along with Ace, Joker, Queen, and Jacques.  A group
of soldiers from both Zexen and the Grasslands converge on them.

Ace:  "Overwhelming recognition, I must say, boss.  Mercenaries are never
welcomed so warmly."
Joker:  "It was a close victory, so they are quite relieved."
Aila runs up to them:  "You did it!  You pushed them back!"
Joker:  "Not completely, but it should be okay for a while."
Aila:  "Let's have a toast.  A toast, everybody!  It's what you do to celebrate
isn't it?"
Ace:  "Y-yeah, but..."
Aila:  "Hurry up, let's go!  I asked them to prepare for this!"
Joker:  "Better not be a toast with milk."
Aila:  "Come on!"
Jacques walks up to her:  "All right, I'm coming."

Jacques and Aila exchange looks, nod, and walk off together side by side.

Ace:  "I suppose it would be rude to refuse.  Eh, boss?"
Geddoe:  "..."

[Lilly, with Reed and Samus in tow, enter and come up behind you.]

Lilly:  "I've heard that the Flame Champion is here.  Where might I find him?"

No one responds to her.

Lilly:  "Hello!  Does anyone know about the Flame Champion?  Where is he?  It
won't do any good to keep him from me."

A line of Zexen and Grassland troops stand in front of her as Geddoe and his
team walk away in the distance, oblivious to Lilly.


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5d.  Chris' Story

Chris glances at Geddoe and Hugo.  She approaches the table with FC's staff and
outfit.

Chris:  "The way you loved the Grasslands, is the way I love Zexen and its
Knights.  We may have some differing viewpoints on some things, but not about
what's important.  Both of our lands are in grave danger."

Chris looks over the staff on the table.

Chris:  "I can never be guardian of your beloved Grasslands, but I should know
how to use the power, so...Please give me the power."

As Chris reaches for the staff, the screen fades to white.

[Sana states that you will follow in the path of FC, and that it was his wish
for you to first pass a test.  After agreeing and setting up the party, you
face the Fire Dragon.  After defeating it, you acquire the True Fire Rune.]

Chris:  "I did it.  Now, I have proven myself."

[Sana greets the 3 main characters and leads them out of the room.]

As they exit, Chris pauses and speaks with Hugo and Geddoe.

Chris:  "Hugo...and Geddoe.  The rune of the Flame Champion of the Grasslands
is now in my hand and I've solemnly acknowledged this.  I was able to see evil
heading for the rune in Alma Kinan.  Let me use its power to defeat this evil."

Luc:  "You call me evil?  That's a serious accusation, missy!"

[Sana is startled by the appearance of Luc, Yuber, Sarah, and Albert, and asks
how they were able to enter.  Luc replies that Sana herself unsealed the
chamber.]

Chris looks at Yuber:  "Y-You..."
Yuber:  "Nice to see you again, lady.  I was unable to kill the girl, but I
will take that rune, along with your arm if you wish..."
Chris:  "What?"

[Luc demands the True Fire Rune.]

Chris looks at her right hand:  "I won't relinquish the rune!  It carries the
hopes of thousands of people..."

[After beating Luc and co., the bad guys are surprised that you may have
already unlocked the True Rune's power.  Luc attempts to use his True Wind Rune
to subjugate the True Fire Rune, but the spirit of the Flame Champion blocks
his attempt.  The main characters' parties suddenly reappear next to their
leaders.  Albert suggests a strategic retreat and Sarah teleports them away.
As he is leaving, Luc states he will allow you to keep the True Fire Rune for
now.]

The screen fades to white.  Chris awakens in a bed in the Chisha village.

Chris:  "Where am I?"
Louis walks in:  "You are awake, Lady Chris.  I thought I was going to die when
I heard you'd collapsed.  I am glad to see you.  Oh yes--we're in the house of
the Chisha Clan Chief, Madame Sana.  She has offered her home to us."
Chris:  "Oh, I see.  But how did I get here?"
Louis:  "Madame Sana said it was the power released by the rune in the cave
that made you collapse.  Something about exploiting the power of the True
Rune..."
Chris looks at her right hand:  "You mean this rune?"
Louis looks at the rune in amazement:  "So this is how you carry what you call
the 'True Fire Rune.'  The rune once belonged to a man called the Flame
Champion, I believe."
Chris:  "Well, I assumed responsibility for the rune, but I don't--"
Louis:  "Don't doubt yourself, Lady Chris.  Zexen was part of Grassland before
it became the Zexen Federation, so it's natural that you take responsibility
for the rune."
Chris:  "I'm still not convinced, but...Hey!  What's all that noise outside?"
Louis:  "There's been quite a fuss since you left the castle.  First, an
expedition to occupy Lake Castle, and then a talk with the Karaya Clan...Lord
Salome did an extensive investigation at the time.  Finally, we found out that
the surprise attack by the Lizard Clan was a trap instigated by the Harmonian
army."
Chris:  "The Harmonian army?...Then the masked man we encountered must have
been--"
Louis:  "So now everyone's gathered outside--Lord Salome, other Zexen Knights,
the Karaya Clan, the Lizard Clan, and some mercenary friends of Lord Salome's.
It seems they're all too upset to come to any agreement, and they've no time
to lose if the Harmonian army plans to attack Grassland."
Chris:  "You can't really help...what they're doing is human nature."
Louis:  "You have a point, my Lady.  I can't forget about Lords Myriam and
Lanchet, either."

[You leave the room and make your way to the entrance to Chisha.  There,
a contingent of Zexens, Karayans, and Lizards are arguing.  Salome is trying to
convince Dupa that the Zexens who attacked when Zepon was assassinated were
phantoms created by a mage.  Dupa doubts him and Beecham says it was no mirage
that Karayans were murdered during the Zexen raid.  Percival replies that each
group needs their land to survive and Harmonia is a threat to them all.  Bazba
states that Harmonia has always been afraid of the Flame Champion and would not
dare attack.]

Chris walks through the middle of the assembled crowd towards Lucia and Hugo.

Salome:  "Lady Chris..."
Chris (to Bazba):  "The True Fire Rune that he bore in his right hand is now in
my right hand.  I took over his spirit, too.  What does this mean?"
Bazba looks at her rune:  "That..."
Chris:  "Listen to us argue!  Instead of letting the Harmonians get their way,
we should pull together and prepare to fight them!"

Chris looks at all the Grassland representatives.

Chris:  "I am guilty of helping to burn Karaya Village to the ground.  We had
our reasons, which may not excuse our actions...But in battle, there are no
apologies expected."

Chris gets on one knee in front of Lucia and bows her head.

Percival:  "Lady Chris..."
Chris:  "But I will apologize for taking the lives of defenseless people."
Salome, in full imploring mode:  "Enough, milady!  Don't further dishonor
yourself or the rest of the Knights."
Chris, ignores him and stays on one knee:  "The Harmonian army will advance any
minute.  I have faith in your prediction, Salome.  But in order to protect the
Zexen Federation, we must collaborate with the Grasslands.  In the face of
these circumstances, the prestige of the Knights and the fame of my name do not
matter.  A hero's title is unimportant to me."
Lucia:  "Lady Chris..."
Dupa:  "..."

[A Lizard Clan member interrupts with the message that a large Harmonian Army
is attacking.  The Grasslands leaders immediately rush off to meet the threat.]

Hugo pauses to speak with Chris, who is still on one knee.

Hugo:  "Lady Chris, I still cannot forgive you.  But I respect you as a person
and admire your courage..."

He then runs off to join the battle.

[You decide to join the fight as well.  After getting walloped by the Harmonian
forces, the Zexen and Grasslands forces retreat to Duck Village.  Hugo helps a
Karayan comrade into the village, while Chris gives orders to the Zexens, and
Queen and Aila tend to the wounded.]  

Chris stands at the entrance with Louis, Salome, and Percival.

Chris:  "I've never seen such a massacre!  It's horrific!"
Salome:  "They sent a combined force of the main and regional Harmonian
armies."
Percival:  "It must mean they don't plan on losing."
Chris:  "So it seems."

[You walk into the inn and see an argument between Salome, Dupa, Lucia, and
Beecham.  They cannot agree to trust each other or to form an alliance to face
the Harmonian threat.]

Chris walks back out to the entrance where a Zexen messenger informs her and
Salome that the Harmonian army has dispatched a third unit against them.

[Back at the inn, the Grasslands leaders tell Chris and Salome they intend to
take the Harmonian Army head on.  Chris and Salome both state that taking a
direct attack approach would be suicide.  Dupa replies that this is their plan
and the Zexens can fall in if they want or not.  The Grasslands leaders leave
the inn as Chris pounds her fist on the table in frustration.]

Back at the entrance, Chris tells Salome that they must help the Grasslanders,
even if they believe their direct approach will not work.  Caesar comes up to
them and says he has a plan.  After listening to the plan, Salome says he will
trust Caesar's good name.  After forming the Zexen units, Chris leads them into
battle against the approaching Harmonian army.

[The Harmonian Army, with help from the Mantor units, quickly pushes back the
attack of the Grasslands teams.  Chris and the Zexen Knights appear and make
one last effort to convince them they should not be enemies.  The Zexens offer
to cover the Grasslanders'retreat to Brass Castle.  After mulling it over,
Lucia and Dupa agree and withdraw from the battle.  Chris informs the Zexens
they do not need to defeat the Harmonian Army, only to stall it for a little
while.]

After a few rounds, Sarah's concentration is disrupted and the Harmonians flee.
Chris and the Zexen knights do the same and withdraw to Brass Castle.

[At Brass Castle, Caesar notes to you they have averted the total destruction
of the army and that despite the odds, he always has some tricks up his sleeve.
You go to the Brass Castle's parlor where the leaders of the Grasslands and
Zexen are again discussing the possibility of an alliance.  Caesar interrupts
them and states that they will need strategy as well as the cooperation of
forces outside Zexen and the Grasslands to defeat Harmonia.  Lucia vouches for
Caesar's opinions but states there are two problems.  First, they will need a
leader to unify the Zexen and Grasslands forces.  Everyone silently turns your
way in acknowledgement.  Lucia states the first problem is taken care of, but
the second is that the heart and morale of the soldiers also need to be won
over.  She states that after getting whipped by the Harmonian Army, they see
the enemy as an unbeatable opponent.  She tells Caesar overcoming this problem
will take more than sound battle strategy.]

Chris retires to her room in the Brass Castle, where Louis is surprised to see
her.

Louis:  "Lady Chris!"
Chris:  "What were you doing?"
Louis:  "I just wanted to get your change of clothes ready."
Chris:  "Why, thank you.  (Chris looks herself over)  I guess they are a little
dirty."
Louis:  "It's only natural.  They're your traveling clothes.  (He looks down)
You've done a lot in them."
Chris closes her eyes, agreeing with Louis:  "Yes..I have."

There's a silent pause between them.

Louis:  "Lady Chris?"
Chris:  "Yes?"
Louis:  "Is it difficult for you to take the Champion's name?"
Chris:  "Why do you ask that?"
Louis:  "Well, when I was first appointed as an apprentice to the only lady
knight of the prestigious Six Knights, I was nervous.  I thought you might be
a very demanding person."
Chris:  "Thanks a lot."
Louis:  "Sorry, milady, but I thought your claim to fame was winning in battle.
Extraordinary for anyone, especially a woman.  But, as a person, you're not at
all like you are in battle.  But I noticed you began to smile a lot less after
the death of Captain Galahad, when people began to call you a Zexen hero."
Chris:  "You think so?  Hmm.  You're probably right.  The more people thought
of me as a hero, or as the White Maiden of Zexen, the less I related to those
titles.  It's not in my nature to receive all that attention."
Louis:  "Milady."
Chris:  "But if it makes a difference...Because this land needs a hero, I'll
try to live up to that task.  It may be the best way to save everyone."
Louis:  "Lady Chris, I think you were meant to be a hero.  Not all heroes have
to be like being one."
Chris:  "Now don't you go calling me a hero, too, Louis.  You're the last
person I'd want putting me on a pedestal.  I thought you were getting my armor
ready, anyway."
Louis:  "Yes, milady!  Right away!"

The scene fades and cuts away to Chris back in her armor as she's strapping on
the chestplate.

Chris:  "I feel more comfortable in these."
Louis:  "I like you in armor, too."
Chris smiles:  "Heh heh.  That sounded strange, coming from you, Louis.  It's
rather embarassing."
Louis:  "Oh my, no.  I didn't mean it that way."
Chris:  "Hahahahaha."

In case you didn't know, Louis _does_ have a crush on Chris.  Check the bath
conversations section for more details.  Of course, if you've talked to the
townsmen in Brass Castle and Vinay Del Zexay, you know that practically every
Zexen male is in love with Chris ^_^

Chris heads out to the courtyard where the defeated armies of both Zexen and
Grassland are gathered.

Chris:  "Everyone!  Please listen to me.  I am Chris Lightfellow, the captain
of the Zexen Knights.  I was born in Vinay Del Zexay and have only fought for
Zexen until today.  I was raised to think of the Grasslands as the enemy.  In
this war, I have seen many things.  In the Chisha Village, I saw villagers
desparately struggling to protect the land they loved."

[The assembled troops look up at you.] Chris pauses and looks at the True Fire
Rune in her right hand.

Chris:  "And in Alma Kinan, a girl, following the village's ancient traditions,
sacrificed her own life.  (She clenches her hand into a fist)  I thought it was
a totally barbaric thing to do.  But now, I feel differently.  A long history
of misunderstanding between Zexen and the Grasslands has been the major cause
of our conflicts.  It was ignorance, not knowing about each other's
differences, nor trying to learn more.  We mocked the Grasslands as a land of
barbarians, and they looked down on us as violators of sacred traditions."

Chris puts her right hand over her heart.

Chris:  "But we're no longer in a position to judge one another.  We have to
free ourselves from past prejudices and unite for the cause!  Otherwise, that
girl from Alma Kinan died in vain.  She prayed for this land's protection, and
we should honor her wish.  I've heard how fighters from the Grasslands, and
from nameless lands afar, all gathered together under the leadership of the
last Flame Champion.  Why can't we do this now?  Even temporarily?  What can be
more important than this?!  Those who wish to protect all our lands gather
here!  What can be more important than this?!"

[Slowly, the soldiers pick themselves up off the ground and, one by one, echo
your sentiments.]

Chris clenches her right hand into a fist and raises it into the air.

Chris:  "By the Rune in my right hand, I, Chris Lightfellow, swear that I will
succeed FC as the Flame Champion and do my utmost to defend this land from all
dangers!"

[The camera pulls back from you, showing all the soldiers in the courtyard
cheering and raising their weapons in unison.  Lucia, Salome, Dupa, Apple, and
Caesar regard the scene, agreeing that they have a legitimate shot to beat the
Harmonian Army now that they have a true leader for their allied armies.
Caesar congratulates you on being the new Flame Champion.]

Chris:  "Thanks, but I don't like this kind of..."

[Caesar says it is time for the new army's first battle.  After organizing your
troops, you face the Harmonian Army led by Dios, Sasarai, Albert, and Yuber.
Along with the other two main characters and support from the main troops of
Zexen and the Grasslands, you face the Harmonians outside of Brass Castle.  You
speak to Sasarai, reminding him of the pact the Flame Champion made with
Harmonia.  Sasarai states that agreement has been over for a long time.  You
respond by stating that you carry the True Fire Rune and warn that the
Harmonians face the same destructive fate as their predecessors 50 years ago.
Sasarai and Dios understand the weight of words backed by the True Fire Rune
and send half of their army back to safeguard Harmonia.  After defeating these
forces, additional soldiers led by Mua, Hallec, Thomas, and Lilly arrive on
the field.  If you were able to get a major victory, you acquire a Silver
Shield.  Back at Brass Castle, the combined Zexen and Grasslands forces
celebrate their victory.]

Chris enters the courtyard flanked by Salome, Percival, Leo, and Louis.  A
group of soldiers from both Zexen and the Grasslands converge on them.

Louis smiles at Chris:  "You're a hero again!"
Salome:  "We've survived a series of tough battles, so everyone is in high
spirits."
Leo:  "What a different reception we get this time."
Percival"  "We must remain united to face Holy Harmonia...Just as Lady Chris
foretold."

[Lilly, with Reed and Samus in tow, enter and come up behind you.]

Lilly:  "I've heard that the Flame Champion is here.  Where might I find him?"

Lilly makes her way through Salome toward Chris.

Lilly:  "Lady Chris!  It's been a long time.  When did I last see you?  It must
have been at the Zexen Day Ball."
Chris:  "Lilly!  What are you doing here?"
Lilly:  "I have a little business with the Flame Champion, so I came up to the
Grasslands.  But where is he?"
Chris:  "Well..."

The screen shakes as Lilly expresses her amazement.

Lilly:  "What do you mean?!"
Chris:  "Pardon?"
Lilly points a finger at Chris:  "How can you be the Flame Champion?  That
can't be true!"
Salome:  "As I've explained..."
Lilly shoots an angry look at him:  "Shut your mouth, old man!"
Salome back pedals:  "Old man?  I'm not that old..."
Lilly:  "Chris, how did you get to be the Flame Champion?  Please explain."

Salome, in the background, closes his eyes with a "Dear Lord, help me" look on
his face.

Chris:  "I don't know.  It just happened.  (Chris turns to Louis)  Louis, I'm
tired.  I'm going back to my quarters."
Louis:  "Yes, milady."

Chris and Louis calmly walk past Lilly.

Lilly:  "No, I won't let you go yet!  It isn't fair!  You must include me in
this too!"

Percival looks at Salome, who still has the same expression on his face.

In Kidd's profile of Chris, he notes that she and Lilly got into a hair pulling
match at the Zexen ball that Lilly referenced in this scene.  The two ladies
became good friends shortly thereafter.

Chris' story as Flame Champion proceeds the same way as Geddoe's and Hugo's
until after she defeats the Water Dragon in the Cyndar Ruins.  After the party
catches up with Jimba near the True Water Rune seal, she enters the orb and the
following scene plays out:

Chris walks up the steps to the orb.  The scene fades out and she stands alone
with a backdrop of soft colored lights in the background.

Chris:  "Am I--inside the Rune?"
Yun appears behind her:  "Yes, Chris.  You are."
Chris turns to face her:  "Is that you, Yun?"
Yun:  "I knew we'd see each other again.  I'm a spirit.  I'm one of the 27
True Runes that are placed in every corner of the world and control everything.
And now, if I may, let me introduce you to someone."

The camera shifts to reveal Jimba standing behind Chris.  He is dressed in his
Zexen garb when he was known as Wyatt Lightfellow, Chris' father.

Wyatt:  "It's been a long time, Chris.  Come closer so I can see you."

He extends his hand to touch her cheek.  Chris, blushing, swipes his hand away.

Chris:  "Who on earth are you?  And why are you here?"

Wyatt closes his eyes and pauses.

Wyatt:  "I'll try to explain...I am the successor of the True Water Rune."
Chris:  "The what?  The successor of the True Water Rune?  Then, you are..."
Wyatt:  "Chris, I am your father.  I have changed--because of the Rune's
spell.  I hope this isn't too hard on you."

Chris looks angrily at him:  "How...can I believe you?  If you're really my
father, why did you say those things in the Village of Iksay?  (Her look of
anger turns to one of sadness)  And, why did you stay away until now?"

Wyatt:  "Since that day fifty years ago, as a successor of the True Water Rune,
I was running away from an assassin sent from Holy Harmonia and an agent of the
Roaring Brotherhood.  I sought refuge with the Lightfellow family for a time.
There I met Anna and fell in love.  Then you were born...I soon sensed that the
agents had come to Vinay Del Zexay.  I knew they'd sniff me out before long,
and eventually find out about you and Anna.  So I fled to the Grasslands, to
forget about you and your mother.  The Zexen you knew as Wyatt Lightfellow
'died' and I became Jimba of the Karaya Clan.  I'm sorry Wyatt had to 'die,'
but it was the only way."
Chris:  "How is this possible?  It's too strange!"
Wyatt:  "I loved you both dearly..."

Chris slowly turns away from him, looking at the ground.

Chris:  "Ah..."

There is a long, silent pause between them.  Yun then re-appears next to them.

Yun:  "Excuse me, Chris.  We are running out of time.  We are going to contain
the power of the True Water Rune.  Please lend us your power."
Chris is still in a daze and does not look at Yun:  "..."

The orb begins to shake.  The scene shifts to the outside where the orb starts
to crackle with energy.  It soon dissipates and removes the Rune's seal.  Chris
emerges and walks down the steps toward Jimba, who is still in the arms of
Lucia.  After he dies, Chris raises her right hand in the air.  The True Water
Rune temporarily makes its way to her hand.

Chris closes her eyes:  "...True Water Rune, you need a new master...a new
servant, to be exact."

She lowers her hand and the Rune passes into Hugo's right hand.  Hugo steps
back, looking at his hands.

Hugo:  "Oh, this is..."
Chris:  "This is the True Water Rune.  You should be able to handle it since
you were one of the candidates to inherit the True Fire Rune."
Hugo:  "But the Rune belonged to..."
Chris, her eyes still closed:  "My father was killed by your friend Jimba.  You
should be the successor, Hugo.  Can you accept the position?  It is too painful
for me."

The scene fades to black and the rest of Chris' chapter is the same for Hugo
and Geddoe as Flame Champion as covered in section 4.

I believe the "Roaring Brotherhood" that Wyatt talks of in the scene is the
same as the Howling Voice Guild, of which Clive and Elza from the previous
Suikodens were members.


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6.  Chapter 4 and 5

[Back in the parlor, the groups represented by Chris, Lucia, Dupa, Mua, Hallec,
Duck Village Chief, Thomas, and (after some deliberation) Lilly pledge to join
the Fire Bringer.  It is decided that Thomas' castle is the best candidate for
headquarters.  After picking a group, you head over to the castle to get
settled down.  This is the last opportunity you have to use all three main
characters in the same group until near the end of the game, by the way.  After
arriving at Lake Castle, you are given Thomas' old room.]

[You visit Caesar in the main hall room and learn that there is activity going
on at the Great Hollow.  Going there, you see Jimba running toward the Ancient
Highway.  You follow and see Luc and co. opening the doors to the Cyndar Ruins.
Going back to Lake Castle, Cecile tells you to meet with Caesar in the hall.
There, he confirms that one of the Harmonian bishops is missing and that you
should return to the Cyndar Ruins to investigate.  Back to the Cyndar Ruins,
you make it to the end where Sarah blocks your path once more.  After defeating
her, the ground shakes and you are dumped into an area made out of ice.  Sarah
escapes as you gather yourself.  Following her trail, you face and defeat the
Water Dragon.  Caesar, Apple, Lucia, and the other two main characters catch up
with you at this point.  You then see Sarah catch up to her allies as they
stand over Jimba.  They were unable to attain the True Water Rune and depart.]

[You make it to the True Water Rune Seal where Lucia runs to check on Jimba.
He tells her he has failed to put the True Water Rune back into his body and
that the power of the Rune must now be contained.  He tells Chris she is the
only one who can do this.  Chris enters the orb where the True Water Rune
waits.  She emerges and regards Jimba, knowing the truth now that he is her
father, Wyatt Lightfellow.  He passes away in Lucia's arms and is absorbed by
the True Water Rune, which passes on to Chris or Hugo depending on who you
picked for Flame Champion.]

[The next string of events are the same for everyone, regardless of who has
what True Rune.  After the cutscene showing Luc's confrontation with Sasarai
in Harmonia, Franz shows up at the gate of Lake Castle at the start of chapter
5.  He tells you that the Harmonians rounded up the citizens of Le Buque and
they need the Fire Bringer's help.  Geddoe takes on the task with his mercenary
group, plus Aila.  They track down Luc at the altar of Mantors at Mt. Senai.
Luc is defeated, but uses his True Wind Rune and Sasarai's True Earth Rune to
steal Geddoe's True Rune.  With Duke's help, Geddoe and his team are able to
rescue the Le Buque citizens and escape Mt. Senai.  Back to Lake Castle, where
Chris is preparing to go to Brass Castle in response to the Zexen Council.
There, she meets Yumi who tells her Alma Kinan needs her help.  Chris and
Borus escort Yumi back, but in Kuput Forest "Yumi" is revealed to be Sarah in
disguise.  She, too, is defeated, but is able to take Chris' True Rune as well.
Back again to Lake Castle, where Hugo learns that the Harmonians have attacked
Brass Castle.  He decides to lead an advance team to aid the Zexens while Apple
organizes their main forces to deploy.  At Brass Castle, Luc takes Hugo's True
Rune to complete his plan of acquiring the five elemental True Runes.]

[Luc teleports away and leaves Yuber to take care of Hugo and the others.  It
is revealed that the "Harmonians" that Luc commands are actually monsters
summoned by Sarah.  At this point, Chris shows up with reinforcements from Alma
Kinan and is able to force Yuber to retreat yet again.  The forces from Lake
Castle also arrive at this point and Caesar states they are ready to take on
Luc's army of monsters.  During this strategy battle, Sasarai appears and this
allows you to finally take out Yuber (you could only take down 1/2 of his HP
until then).  After his umpteenth retreat, everyone returns to Lake Castle.]

[Sasarai explains that Luc has gathered the True Runes in order to destroy his
True Wind Rune, the result of which would be the destruction of the Grasslands.
Nash enters and informs them of where Luc intends to carry out the ritual
necessary to accomplish this.  This is the last point in the game when you can
recruit in order to get all possible 104 stars.  You launch an all-out attack
against Luc's forces at the Ceremonial Site and gain entry.]

[After the other two main characters defeat Yuber and Sarah, you head to the
room containing the True Fire Rune accompanied by Caesar.  When you reach it,
you are confronted by Albert, who reveals why he went along with Luc's plan and
why he is now backing away from it.  He then teleports away and you are able to
re-acquire the True Fire Rune without a fight.  The other two main characters
catch up with you at this point and you all head to the final platform to face
Luc.]


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7.  Flame Champion Endings

7a.  Introduction

At the end of the game when you fight Sarah, Yuber, and the True Wind Rune
at the Ceremonial Site, there are optional scenes you can view if you bring
along the "default" parties for each character.  These parties are
(1) Geddoe, Ace, Joker, Aila, Jacques, and Queen, (2) Chris, Percival,
Borus, Leo, Roland, Salome, and Louis, and (3) Hugo, Sgt. Joe, and Fubar
(does not matter who else is in the party).  Unless the character is the
Flame Champion, the scene takes place in the hallway leading to whichever
boss you are facing.  For the character who is Flame Champion, you will not
see this optional scene but a different one as they are leaving the
Ceremonial Site.  

For example, if Chris is your Flame Champion, you will see the optional
conversations for Geddoe and Hugo's teams as they go off to fight Yuber and
Sarah, respectively.  You will then see a scene after beating the True Wind
Rune with Chris' team as they escape the Ceremonial Site.  Therefore, each
main character has two optional scenes depending on whether or not they are
Flame Champion.  I have included these scenes in the descriptions.  Note that
because of the story elements, Chris can never receive the True Lightning
Rune and Geddoe can never receive the True Water Rune.  This also means Chris
will never fight Yuber and Geddoe will never face Sarah at the Ceremonial Site.


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7b.  Hugo's Endings

This is the conversation Hugo will have with Sgt. Joe and Fubar if Hugo is not
the Flame Champion as they head in to face Sarah or Yuber:

Hugo:  "Come along, Sergeant." (The two of them walk side by side)
Sgt. Joe:  "You've become a strong man, Hugo."
Hugo:  "Why do you say that?"
Sgt. Joe:  "You just have, that's all.  (he stops and looks at Hugo)  I'm
proud of you, Hugo.  You were just a lad when Lulu was killed, and it had a
huge impact on your behavior.  But now things are different.  You're fighting
for a much greater cause.  It shows how much you've grown.  I am honored to be
your mentor."

Hugo glances to his other side and sees an image of Lulu standing next to him.
The image turns to Hugo and gives him a familiar smile.

Hugo:  "I've never forgoteen about Lulu."
Sgt. Joe:  "Nor have I...Okay, let's go!  This battle is dedicated to many
people, including Lulu.  There won't be many battles of this caliber."

Fubar walks up to Hugo and they nuzzle each other.  Hugo pats then rubs Fubar's
head.

Hugo:  "Hey!  You're coming with us.  Come along."
Fubar:  "Kuuuueeeeee!!!"
Hugo:  "This time, I will win.  You heard me!  Yes, things have changed..."

If Chris is Flame Champion, Hugo will confront Sarah for the True Water Rune.
This is their conversation when Hugo reaches the platform.

Sarah:  "You won't stop interfering with Master Luc, will you?"
Hugo:  "No way!  What you are doing is evil!"
Sarah:  "Your eyes cannot show you everything."

Hugo extends and shakes his arms out in exasperation.

Hugo:  "Why should we want to die?  What's so bad about living?"
Sarah:  "To live is not a sin, but to remain ignorant is."
Hugo shakes his head:  "I don't care about the True Runes or the beginning of
the world.  I care about my mom, sergeant, Fubar, everyone in the village, and
all the other people I know.  That's all!  I like things in the Grasslands the
way they are!"
Sarah:  "If that's so, since we can't accept each other, we have no other
choice but to fight."
Hugo draws his dagger:  "Fine!"
Sarah:  "..."

After her defeat, Sarah lies prone on the ground as Hugo stands over her.

Hugo:  "Puff...puff...puff...puff."
Sarah rises to her knees as Hugo approaches the Rune:  "Please forgive me,
Master Luc.  I was not strong enough."
Hugo limps forward:  "Stand aside!"
Sarah uses her staff to prop herself up:  "No!  I'll risk my life to keep the
rune here."
Hugo:  "Puff...puff...Why would you want to die for this?  Death is such a sad
thing."
Sarah shakes her head:  "I would do anything for Master Luc..."
Hugo regards her with a sad expression on his face:  "When I tried to save Lulu
I was ready to die for him.  Now I am glad to be alive.  I can do so much more
alive!"

The screen fades to black and Hugo re-acquires the True Water Rune.  If Geddoe
is Flame Champion, Hugo will be the True Lightning Rune bearer instead and
fight Yuber.  This is the transcript for that confrontation:

Yuber:  "So what if you're late?  Even if you'd made it earlier, it wouldn't
have mattered!"
Hugo:  "The outcome's not always the same.  I will defeat you this time!!!"
Yuber:  "You insolent twerp!  You annoy me!  What makes you think you'll win
this time?"
Hugo draws his dagger:  "I have my reasons!"
Yuber extends his blades and glares at Hugo:  "Then show me!!"

After Yuber is defeated, Hugo stands over him as Yuber kneels on one knee.

Yuber:  "Grrrrr!  How can I lose...?  Damn you, successor of the True Rune..."
Hugo:  "It has nothing to do with the True Rune.  I have friends I can believe
in and friends who believe in me.  That's all I need!"

Hugo swings his dagger at Yuber who teleports away from danger.  Yuber re-
appears several yards away from Hugo and adjusts his hat.

Yuber:  "Humans...are interesting...." (He then teleports away for good)
Hugo:  "Damn!  I lost him."
Sgt. Joe:  "Let him go!  Move on to more important matters!"

There is a shot of the surrounding mountains and Hugo re-acquires the True
Lightning Rune.  This last ending is for Hugo as Flame Champion.  If you take
Fubar and Sgt. Joe to this fight, you will receive the scene described after
you beat the True Wind Rune.  As Hugo and his party file into the open area,
they see Luc, his back to Hugo, looking at the True Wind Rune's pedestal.

Hugo:  "Finally.  Here at last!  You're all by yourself now.  All your allies
have deserted you.  So give up trying to destroy the True Wind Rune.  It's a
crazy idea!  Why don't you surrender?"
Luc turns to face Hugo:  "I've always been alone, ever since I was born.
You'll be the same way, Flame Champion Hugo.  You will eventually learn that
omnipotence and fame willl not necessarily mean happiness."
Hugo:  "Why do you say that?  I have..."
Luc:  "The True Fire Rune, like all runes, stores memories of its past bearers.
Did they lead happy lives?  Learn from their memories.  Learn the truth about
the world and learn about what I'm trying to do."

The screen fades to white.  We see Karaya Village in black and white with Hugo,
who is in color, in the foreground.  The village is empty and desolate.  Hugo
approaches the village entrance and looks around.  He senses that something is
watching him and defeats a group of guardian eyes.  He looks around the
village and sees the familiar Zexen armor outside of Luce's hut.  After another
battle with a group of guardian eyes, he comes to a realization.

Hugo:  "Can this really be Karaya?  I don't smell the soil, see the grass, or
feel the wind on my face."
Luc has appeared behind Hugo:  "This is our future...at least one of them."
Hugo:  "Future?"
[Luc:  "Do you hear how quiet it is?  Every sound, form, and color blend into
complete tranquility.  This is the absolute world."]
Hugo:  "How can this be the absolute world?"
Luc:  "In this parallel world, battles are fought between dharma and chaos.
This balance of power brings justice."
Hugo:  "Who are dharma and chaos?  Anyone we know?  Heh, heh!"
Luc:  "The 27 True Runes were an incarnation of God in this world.  This world
was born after the war of the sword and the shield.  So began the eternal
struggle between dharma and chaos.  What you see here is one of its termini.
This is a world of silence universally reigned by the power of dharma, the
orderly cosmos."
Hugo:  "So what do I have to with all this nonsense?"
Luc:  "It's hardly nonsense, Hugo.  This is where the world will eventually end
up.  This quiet, sad world is our fate.  We can't change our destiny."
Hugo:  "This is ridiculous!  Not even a spirit would live in a place like this!
The only absolute characteristic here is dead silence."
Luc shakes his head:  "This is our fate--our future!"
Hugo:  "Fate?  I don't believe it!  The Flame Champion, FC, told me that the
will of a person can change destiny!"

The background behind Hugo and Luc fades all to black.

Luc:  "That's what I wanted to hear, Hugo."
Hugo:  "What?"
Luc disappears then re-appears:  "I bear the True Wind Rune.  It's taught me
about the future world."
Hugo:  "..."
Luc:  "The world you just saw was kept as a memory in the True Wind Rune.  The
Flame Champion, FC, might have been able to see it vaguely.  It was the future
of this world."  Luc disappears again and re-appears standing far away in front
of you.
Hugo:  "What are you trying to say here?"

Luc stares at his right hand's palm and continues.

Luc:  "I'll destroy this True Wind Rune and myself.  (He clenches his fist)
[Just like the Flame Champion said, I can change our destiny!  Since the True
Rune causes this eternal struggle, perhaps I can change our fate by destroying
that rune.  This is not the future you deserve.  No!  Before I acquired the
power, I was helpless.  Now, I am different.  I have the knowledge!  With the
ultimate knowledge from the Cyndar Clan, I can change the world's destiny.
I'll release humans from bondage!"]
Hugo:  "..."

[Luc extends his right hand to Hugo.]

[Luc:  "Now, if you understand me, return your rune to the pedestal.  I'll use
human willpower to change the future!"]
Hugo, with clenched fists, is shaking in anger:  "Don't talk nonsense."
Luc:  "?"
Hugo:  "You lie!  They're all lies!  Even if not, why should I believe you?
(Hugo draws his dagger) You've caused a lot of good people to die:  Lulu,
Jimba, Karayans, Duck Clan, Lizard Clan, the Zexen ironheads, and Harmonians.
They're dead because of you!  They had the will to live, but you killed them.
I can never forgive you!"
Luc withdraws his hand:  "Then we have no choice but to fight it out!  We're
both too stubborn."

The scene fades to black then back to the True Wind Rune platform, with Hugo on
his knees, exhausted.  His party advises him to stop before the final battle
and recuperate.  When he is ready, he and his party square off with Luc's
powered up True Wind Rune.  After Luc's defeat, he is on one knee, breathing
heavily from the battle.  Hugo looks at him with sad eyes.

Hugo:  "It's over."
[Luc:  "Yes.  After all, I, too am bound by destiny."]
Hugo's expression turns to anger:  "Destiny?  Who are you kidding?!  I won't
let you leave like this.  Too much blood and too many tears have fallen."

The site starts to fall apart and Hugo's party tells him they must escape.

Hugo:  "Not yet!  We have to get him!"

As the site becomes more unstable, Hugo is convinced to leave.  He takes one
last backward glance at Luc, then runs to catch up with his party.  After the
various scenes with Thomas/Cecile, Rico/Fred, etc., we see Hugo and Sgt. Joe
backing up from a horde of monsters.  Hugo signals to Sgt. Joe that it's
hopeless and they fall back to the main group, bent over with exhaustion.

Hugo:  "Damn!  Are they ever going to stop coming?"
Sgt. Joe:  "There are too many of them.  Fubar, can you do something about
this?"
Fubar shakes his head:  "Kuuuueeeee!!!!"
Sgt. Joe shakes his head in reply.
Hugo's face turns to that of worry:  "Fubar can't lift us all out of here.  No
way!"
Sgt. Joe:  "It's not that far to the exit, so let's not give up.  I promised
Chief Lucia I'd look after you.  And..."
Hugo:  "And what?"
Sgt. Joe pats his robust belly:  "I miss Chief Lucia's home-cooked food
already.  I'm getting hungry just thinking about it!"
Hugo laughs:  "Ha ha ha ha!  Now I'm hungry, too.  Let's get back home and eat
until we explode!"
Fubar points in the direction of the monsters:  "Kuuuueeeee!!!!"
Sgt. Joe:  "Damn, not again!"
Hugo draws his dagger:  "Sergeant, let's go!"

Hugo and the rest of his party charge into the monsters.  The screen fades to
white and the picture re-appears to show the Grassland troops in the front
courtyard of Lake Castle.  Hugo emerges from the main house and stretches out.

Beecham:  "Hey, Hugo!  Have you finished packing?"
Hugo:  "Yes, I didn't have much to pack, anyway."
Beecham:  "I know it's only been a few months, but I've got wanderlust
already."
Lucia:  "Beecham, you don't sound very enthusiastic about going back and
rebuilding the village.  It's still too early to retire you know."
Beecham:  "Heh heh heh!  I see your point."

Chris and Salome approach.

Chris:  "Chief Lucia, may I have a minute with you?"
Lucia:  "Yes, we have time."

We see Aila looking around for something.

Aila:  "That's funny.  No, it can't be..."

She takes off toward the front gate as Sgt. Joe walks up to Hugo.

Sgt. Joe:  "Hey, Hugo!  Oops, I mean, Flame Champion Hugo!  You saved the
Grasslands.  Maybe someone will write an epic poem about you!"
Hugo:  "The Flame Champion...I wanted to be a hero so that I could protect
people.  I've learned that this can be done by anyone."

Hugo looks down at the True Fire Rune in his right hand.

Hugo:  "When the True Fire Rune showed me the memories of my predecessor FC, I
thought I wasn't fit to be the Champion."
Sgt. Joe:  "Sure, it takes a lot for a person to maintain the memories of
someone else's life.  You're too young for such a thing."
Hugo:  "Uh huh."

Chris walks up to Hugo.

Chris:  "Is it uncomfortable to be labeled a hero, Hugo?"
Hugo turns toward her:  "Yeah!  So, I've learned.  I've had enough attention
for now."
Chris:  "I suppose so."
Hugo:  "Problem is, I still hold a grudge against you, even though I know it's
not the way a hero should act."
Chris nods:  "I understand.  It's normal for a young boy to hold a grudge.
Even though you're a hero, you're still a boy."

Chris pauses and looks down.  She looks back up at Hugo.

Chris:  "As Lucia noted, we never know when our paths will cross again.  Maybe
it'll be in a town or a battlefield.  (she puts her hand over her heart)  I
extend my best wishes and good luck to you in all your endeavors."

Chris extends her hand toward Hugo, who looks at it.

Chris:  "This is the Zexen way of saying farewell.  Please do not take
offense."
Hugo smiles and shakes her hand:  "On occasion."
Sgt. Joe:  "Hugo, we are leaving!"

The camera pans to the front of the courtyard, where the Grasslands contingent
is waiting.  Sgt. Joe is waving toward Hugo.

Hugo:  "Yep, I'm coming. (turns back to face Chris) Chris, can you lean forward
a little for me?"
Chris:  "?"

Chris leans forward, her hands on her thighs, not knowing what to expect.  Hugo 
puts his hands on her shoulders, then embraces her around the neck, with Chris
still having the same puzzled expression on her face.  The camera pans behind
Chris' head and we see that Hugo has a big smile on his face.

Hugo:  "I ask the spirits to be with my rival...and comrade.  Keep her well
until we meet again."

The camera switches behind Hugo's head and we see Chris looking at him, still
puzzled.  A smile passes across her face and she hugs Hugo back.  They pull
back from one another, both still smiling at each other.

Hugo:  "This is a Grassland-style farewell.  All right.  See you, Chris."

Hugo runs off to join up with the Grasslanders.  We see Chris in front of the
main house, a big smile on her face as she looks in Hugo's direction.

Sgt. Joe:  "Done talking?"
Hugo nods:  "Yep, all through."
Lucia puts one hand on her hip:  "OK, let's go!  First, we'll reconstruct our
village.  Then, Hugo, you'll need a lot of training to become my successor."
Hugo:  "Ugh!  I hope you haven't decided to make me chief just yet."
Lucia:  "You are the Flame Champion.  Who else can become the next chief,
Hugo?" (Beecham nods in agreement)
Sgt. Joe:  "Heh heh heh!  Don't ask.  Just listen to your mother!  Good luck
with the training."
Hugo:  "Damn!"
Sgt. Joe:  "Ho ho ho ho!  Ha ha!"
Fubar:  "Kuuueee!!"

The camera pans toward the sky and the 108 stars of destiny roll call begins.

Hugo's end picture shows him mounted on a Karayan Horse side by side with
Fubar.  They are on a hill overlooking the Karaya Village which is in the
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7c.  Geddoe's Endings

If Geddoe is not Flame Champion and you take the team of Queen, Jacques, Joker,
Aila, and Ace to face Yuber for the True Lightning Rune, you will receive the
following conversation:

As they step into the hallway, the team gathers in a circle and pause.  Ace and
Joker stand next to one another, across from them are Jacques and Aila, with
Geddoe and Queen between the other four members.

Ace:  "Shall we get started?"
Joker:  "I suspect the pathway will be cluttered with frightening creatures..."
Queen:  "Bet you can't wait to meet them, can you?"
Joker:  "Oy..."
Geddoe:  "You shouldn't have been involved in this.  It's...all because of what
happened 50 years ago..."
Ace shakes his head and scratches his hair:  "Hush, boss!  I'd go to hell and
back for you!"
Joker:  "Yeah, sure.  Whatever, Ace.  Easier said than done!"
Ace:  "You're such a smartass, Joker.  But you'll be sorry when I'm dead."

Aila takes a step back, shocked by Ace's comment.  The others turn their heads
toward her.  She looks at each of them in turn.

Aila:  "Let's not talk about dying, okay?"
Jacques walks up and stands face to face with her:  "We've got to live..."
Ace:  "Sure..."
Jacques turns around and looks at Ace:  "We have to live."
Ace smiles:  "Yes, you're right."

Queen walks in the direction of the True Rune, draws her sword, and points it
toward their destination.

Queen:  "Are we ready?  First let's crash through this hellish hallway and grab
the True Lightning Rune.  Then we'll nab that crazy mage, drag him back to
Caleria, and drink many toasts to our victory.  Agreed?"
Joker:  "I'll drink to that!"
Aila:  "That's right!  We'll all come back and celebrate together.  We must
come back!"
Ace:  "Right.  Let's just get this over with, shall we?"

They all turn to look at Geddoe.  He turns around and smiles.

Geddoe:  "Yes, let's."

When they make it to the True Lightning Rune platform, Yuber walks up to greet
them.

Yuber:  "You're late!"
Geddoe:  "I guess I am."
Yuber:  "How can you keep so cool?  The world is about to end."
Geddoe:  "I'll believe it when I see it.  I was there 50 years ago, when the
threat was the same.  You get stronger with time."
Yuber:  "A reward for escaping death, I suppose."
Geddoe:  "It's more like a curse.  Knowledge can be a tedious thing."

Yuber extends his blades and raises one of them in preparation.

Yuber:  "Then I will put an end to your misery.  You, the successor to the 27
True Runes, will be granted your eternal slumber.  Don't you feel honored?"
Geddoe draws his sword:  "I feel tired."

After Yuber is defeated, he is seen kneeling on one knee, exhausted.

Yuber:  "Ugh, will I never be free from my pain?  Damn it, True Rune!"
Geddoe runs up to him:  "Be gone, Devil!  This world is a place meant for
humans!"

The scene switches to slow motion as Geddoe raises his sword to strike down
Yuber for good.  At the last instant, Yuber teleports away.  Geddoe, seeing
that he has missed, simply closes his eye.  We see a shot of the surrounding
mountains and Geddoe re-acquires the True Lightning Rune.

If Geddoe is Flame Champion, you will go to the True Wind Rune platform to face
Luc.  If you take his default party to this fight, you will receive the scene
described after the True Wind Rune is beaten.  When Geddoe's party arrives, Luc
is on the platform, his back turned away from Geddoe as he looks at the Rune
pedestal.

Geddoe:  "Thanks for waiting.  Your allies either ran away or were defeated
leaving you behind.  What does the destruction of the True Wind Rune get you?
It can only bring chaos, just like when the True Fire Rune went out of control.
What can you do now but accept your defeat?"
Luc turns his head to face Geddoe:  "I've always been alone.  As far back as I
can remember.  We're alike that way, Geddoe.  You knew that omnipotence and
fame wouldn't make you happy, so you ran from your fate."
Geddoe:  "..."
Luc:  "The True Fire Rune holds past bearers' memories.  Who do you know that's
truly happy?  Pay attention to the memories, and learn the truth about the
world and what I'm trying to do."

The screen fades to white and the scene changes to outside the entrance to
Caleria.  The background is in black and white, with Geddoe, in color, in the
foreground.  He is puzzled by his surroundings and senses something watching
him.  He defeats a group of guardian eyes and surveys the empty city.  He sees
the familiar steps leading to the "fruit" stand and other familiar places.
After dispatching another group of guardian eyes, he composes himself.

Geddoe:  "Just as I thought...That..."
Luc has appeared behind Geddoe:  "You guessed correctly.  This is the nightmare
that haunts us."
Geddoe:  "..."
[Luc:  "Do you hear how quiet it is?  Every sound, form, and color blend into
complete tranquility.  This is the absolute world."]
Geddoe:  "Uh-huh..."
Luc:  "In this parallel world, battles are fought between dharma and chaos.
And Balance brings justice.  This world was born after the war of the sword and
the shield.  So began the eternal struggle between dharma and chaos.  What you
see here is one of its termini.  This is a world of silence universally reigned
by the power of dharma, the orderly cosmos."
Geddoe:  "It's been more than 70 years since I first bore the True Rune.  I
never saw this as clearly as it is now, but I had fuzzy visions."
Luc:  "Then you should understand what I am thinking.  This is where the world
will eventually end up:  this quiet, sad world.  The sadness of destiny is
unavoidable."
Geddoe:  "Nonsense!"
Luc:  "Nonsense?"
Geddoe:  "You can't use this as an excuse.  Do you mean to say that because
there is no future, the present should be destroyed?  My friend said that the
will of a person can change destiny.  I say you are a coward who hasn't got the
will to change fate!"

[The background behind Geddoe and Luc fades all to black.]

Luc:  "Why did the Flame Champion, FC, avoid the world and disappear?  I don't
understand a man who runs from the real world, spending idle days in a safe
place, knowing how the world will end."
Geddoe:  "..."

Luc disappears then re-appears far away in front of Geddoe.  He looks down at
his right palm.

Luc:  "The True Wind Rune is with my soul.  My soul was created to be a
container for the rune and now it's so deeply attached it can't be separated.
The Rune taught me about a world that was kept as a memory in the True Wind
Rune.  I already told you:  I'll destroy this True Wind Rune and myself."

Luc clenches his fist.

[Luc:  Just like the Flame Champion said, I can change our destiny!  Since the
True Rune causes this eternal struggle, perhaps I can change our fate by
destroying the rune.  This is not the future you deserve.  No!!  Before I
acquired the power I was helpless!  Now I am different.  I have the knowledge!
With the ultimate knowledge from the Cyndar Clan, I can change the world's
destiny.  I'll release humans from bondage!"]
Geddoe:  "..."

[Luc offers his right hand to Geddoe.]

[Luc:  "Now, if you understand me, return your rune to the pedestal.  I'll use
human willpower to change the future!"]
Geddoe:  "...Have you finished your speech, kid?"
Luc:  "Kid?"
Geddoe:  "Didn't you say FC ran away from the real world, idling away in some
safe place?  Time to grow up, kid."
Luc:  "What do you mean by that?"
Geddoe:  "A mature person would choose a life with loved ones over worldly
battles and faraway futures.  If you don't grasp this, you need to grow up!
You have a huge price to pay for abandoning your duty as a rune-bearer.  When
FC did that, the power's backlash caused him such intense pain and exhaustion
that he only lasted a few more years.  But he stood by his choice.  The most
important reason for living was to be with his loved one, a mortal.  A few
quality years with her were better than an eternity in misery."
Luc:  "Even so..."
Geddoe:  "I don't exactly know how long you have lived, but I will teach you
something more important than your stupid logic.  What you are trying to do is
not a fine job of shaping destiny, but rather simply murder!!"

The scene fades to black then back to the True Wind Rune platform, with Geddoe
on one knee, exhausted.  His party advises him to stop before the final battle
and recuperate.  When he is ready, he and his party square off with Luc's
powered up True Wind Rune.  After Luc's defeat, he is on one knee, breathing
heavily from the battle.

Geddoe:  "It's over."
[Luc:  "Yes.  After all, I, too am bound by destiny."]
Geddoe:  "Destiny?  You think this war was meant to end this way?  Are you
saying that the entire battle had no meaning?  Nonsense!  You don't
understand what my friend finally realized.  What he and those who came after
him went through, and what they came to believe, should never be linked to the
word 'destiny'!"

Geddoe's party enters and tells him they have to escape right now.  Geddoe
pauses and takes a look at Luc, still on one knee.

Geddoe:  "Ugh!"

As the site becomes more unstable, Geddoe is convinced to leave.  He takes one
last backward glance at Luc, then runs to catch up with his party.  After the
various scenes with Thomas/Cecile, Rico/Fred, etc., we see Jacques, Ace, and
Joker facing down some monsters in one hallway.  Jacques turns to look at Ace.
They nod at each other in agreement and fall back into the open corner.  In
the adjacent hallway, Geddoe, Queen, and Aila also fall back to join the
others.

Ace:  "Whoa, what's going on?  I thought the gigantic one we just crushed was
the leader."
Queen:  "Maybe they're riled up because we killed their leader.  That, or
maybe..."
Joker:  "Hmmm, the Summoning Gate is not closed yet.  That means the power of
the True Rune may not be entirely released."
Ace, with a smile on his face:  "Quit trying to interpret and just do
something!  Use magic--anything!"
Joker:  "In case you didn't know, I'm not a magician."
Ace:  "It's the first time I've heard you say that.  I thought you were either
a mage or a magician."

Joker narrows his eyes then makes a six shooter sign with his right hand and
points it at Ace's heart.

Joker:  "I'm warning you.  Don't upset me, okay?"
Ace is still smiling:  "Well, come on, then!  Let's have a go at each other!"
Queen shakes her head at both of them:  "Are you two crazy?  Where are we?"

Aila and Jacques, who are back to back, look at each other.  In unison, they
point at one of the hallways and shout, "Look!"  Everyone turns to look in
the direction they're pointing at to see a horde of monsters approaching.
Queen looks at the other hallway and sees the situation is the same from that
direction.  The camera switches back to Ace and Joker.  Ace is still smiling
and Joker is still pointing an imaginary gun at his chest.

Ace:  "We have to handle this one first, boss."
Geddoe smiles:  "Yes, let's do it quickly.  When we get home, I'll buy you a
round of drinks."
Queen smiles:  "That's what we wanted to hear!"
Joker rushes up to their side:  "It's an honor, boss!"
Ace pulls out his sais and joins them:  "All right, here we go!!"

Jacques pulls out his bowgun and the scene fades to white.  When the scene
fades back in, we see the front entrance to Lake Castle where Geddoe, Ace,
Jacques, Queen, and Joker are standing in front of Piccolo's tent.

Queen:  "Shall we get going, then?"
Joker nods:  "Why not?  There's nothing left to do.  Our job is finished.  We
always move on, right boss?  By the way, what do we do now?  Won't we be
infamous after what we did?"
Queen:  "We don't have to go back to the Frontier Defense Force.  There are
mercenary troops in Zexen and down south.  Even the Republic of Toran is
hiring.  I like the freedom we have in the Defense Force, though."
Ace smiles, his hands on his hips:  "There is no need to worry.  I've taken
care of the situation.  We won't be punished by the state for what we did."
Joker:  "Are you sure?  We fought against their army!"

Ace's face turns into a scowl, not liking that Joker doubts him.

Geddoe:  "Duke and his team will contribute testimonies to Ace's report.  Also,
Bishop Sasarai has offered to put a good word in for us."
Queen:  "When did you do all this?"
Geddoe:  "It's all part of survival after battle."
Queen:  "You're right.  A good mercenary needs to survive in all situations."
Joker (to Ace):  "If you find your tasks tedious, why don't you go back to
Caleria?"
Ace:  "Now, now!  Let's take some of our built-up stress and drown it in a few
drinks.  Shall we go to Vinay Del Zexay?"

Aila shows up, an angry look on her face.

Aila:  "Aiee!!!  Just as I thought!"

She walks up to the group and looks at them.

Aila:  "Why are you leaving without me?  That's mean."
Ace:  "Don't tell me you want to come with us?  Why?  You found people from
Karaya here."
Aila:  "I am joining the Defense Force."
Ace:  "What?!"
Aila:  "I decided to join the Defense Force.  Uh huh!"
Ace:  "It doesn't really suit you, Aila.  We're mercenaries, remember?"
Aila closes her eyes and turns her head away from Ace:  "I know!  Karaya has
lots of them.  Sometimes our village establishes a mercenary troop.  You said I
could!  You promised me that when the battle ended I could join you."
Ace, surprised, turns to Geddoe:  "Uh oh!  Boss?"
Geddoe shakes his head:  "I hadn't heard about this."

Ace turns to look at the other three members of the team.  Queen shakes her
head, no not her.  Joker then does the same, no not him, either.  Jacques, who
is standing between them, sheepishly raises his hand.

Ace:  "Jacques!  Did you really say that?"
Jacques:  "Uh...Sorry about that.  She was so persistent, so I told her I'd
talk to Geddoe about it."
Queen:  "Oh brother!"
Joker:  "Oh my goodness!"
Aila walks up to Ace:  "See?"
Ace turns aways from her:  "Shut up!  You should go home."

Aila raises her foot and promptly stomps it on Ace's foot.  Ace grabs it in
pain as Aila points to him.

Aila:  "I am recognized as a full-fledged Karaya fighter by my chief."
Joker:  "You are dependable as a fighter.  Better than a man who's all mouth
and no guts."
Queen nods:  "Yeah, she's been with us all the way from the Karaya Village.  I
think it's okay for the time being."
Jacques:  "..."

Geddoe starts to walk away from the team toward the gate exit.  He stops when
he's side by side with Jacques.

Geddoe:  "Then you take care of her, Jacques."
Jacques nods:  "Uhhhh, fine."

Geddoe, Jacques, Joker, and Queen turn and start to head out together.  Aila
runs toward them, a big, excited smile on her face.

Aila:  "Thank you so much, commander!"
Ace, with a smile:  "So when did we start up this babysitting business?"
Aila stomps his foot again:  "I am not a baby!"
Ace grabs his foot and hops around in pain:  "Ouch!!!!"

He falls on his rear end as Aila runs to join the others.  In the distance, the
other five team members are ready to leave.

Queen:  "Ace, come on!  You don't want to be left behind, do you?"
Ace, still on the ground, shakes his head:  "Wait, wait for me!"

He gets up and runs to join the others.  The screen fades to black as the
camera pans upward towards the sky.  The 108 stars of destiny roll call begins.

Geddoe's end picture shows the group at the Caleria bar.  Joker is in the
foreground yelling at Ace, who is shouting back at him.  At Ace's table are
Geddoe and Queen, both sitting calmly with drinks in their hands.  In the
background are Jacques and Aila, sipping sodas with straws.


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7d.  Chris' Endings

If Chris is not Flame Champion, she will have this conversation before she
heads out to face Sarah:

Chris stands at the entrance leading to the True Water Rune platform with
Salome as Lucia and Dupa walk up to them.  Chris turns to them.

Chris:  "Has [Hugo/Geddoe]'s team started already?"
Lucia:  "They'll go as soon as they are ready."
Chris:  "I'll leave for the Water Rune platform soon."
Dupa:  "All the best to you.  You'll be just fine."
Chris:  "You have such trust in me."
Dupa:  "You are a real fighter, and I never doubt a real fighter."
Chris:  "Will you respect me after this battle ends if we become enemies once
more?"
Dupa:  "Sure."
Lucia:  "I'm not sure how it is in Zexen, but in Grassland, we help even our
rivals when we must."
Chris:  "In Zexen, we have a saying: 'Trust must be earned.'  But it's sad not
being able to trust others.  For the time being, we will trust you."
Lucia:  "Listen to me.  As Chief of the Karaya Clan, let me tell you--It
doesn't matter whether you are our friend or our foe; I respect you.  You can
believe this."

Lucia walks up to Chris and leans in to whisper into her ear.

Lucia:  "And as a woman of experience, let me tell you--I know it's not always
easy to be liked if you're a strong woman.  If you want to have children of
your own one day, you must show weakness sometimes as well as strength."
Chris raises her eyebrows as her entire face turns red:  "Excuse me?"
Lucia:  "Know that we're counting on you, White Maiden of Zexen."

Lucia turns and walks away from Chris, who is still blushing.  Lucia walks by
Dupa, who wonders what they were talking about.  The two Grassland leaders then
walk away from the Zexens.

Chris:  "Uh...okay."
Salome:  "What is it, milady?  Is it something she said?"

Chris, still blushing, clenches her fists and stomps her foot down toward
Salome.

Chris:  "Could everyone please shut up!"

Chris pulls back, still blushing, and casually puts her hand over her mouth.

Chris:  "Sorry, Salome, it's nothing.  Now then, I'll get to the squad lineup."
Salome is a little puzzled:  "Yes, milady."

If Chris is not Flame Champion and you take her default party of Borus, Leo,
Percival, Salome, Roland, and Louis, the following conversation occurs as they
enter the hall to the True Water Rune platform:

The five other Zexen Knights and Louis stand in a circle around Chris.  Borus
is standing next to Percival on one side with Leo, Roland, Salome, and Louis 
across from them.

Percival:  "Shall we, Lady Chris?  Allow me to lead the way.  We'll go to the
platform as if we were walking home.  You'll see."
Borus glares at Percival:  "Oh, no, let me do the job."
Percival looks at Borus, who is looking down at the ground:  "Well, hello, Lord
Borus.  I thought you decided to stay quiet after that incident in Karaya."
Borus:  "Ugh."
Roland:  "Percival!"
Borus:  "Stand down, Roland.  It's my fault for not being able to stop it.  But
now at least I take responsibility. (He turns to face Chris) Lady Chris, if you
feel that I have disgraced the name of the Six Mighty Knights of Zexen, please
expel me from the Knights after this battle.  But for now, please let me stay
by you..."

Chris pauses, then walks toward Borus, who still has his head down.

Chris:  "Borus, I don't know as much about the Six Mighty Knights as you do.
You honor me by fighting by my side.  If you have any shortcomings as a knight,
I should be blamed. (She looks at her right hand) My sword has taken many
lives.  I have spilled the blood of too many men.  Nevertheless, we are
knights.  Because we know what it is to take a life in battle, we know the
value of human lives even more."

She smiles at Borus.

Chris:  "We must use our swords to protect others' lives, not just take them.
Look at me, Borus.  Join me in the fight."
Borus looks up:  "Lady Chris."

Borus turns to face Chris.  He grabs his sword from its sheath and holds it in
the air.  He looks at Chris then stabs the sword into the ground.  He turns to
face her and places his right hand over his heart.

Borus:  "I, Borus Redrum of the Zexen Knights, hereby take an oath to dedicate
myself to the commander of the Knights, Lady Chris Lightfellow, and fight by
her side in battles as her sword and shield."

Percival glances at Borus, pausing to survey the scene.

Percival:  "That was nice.  Can I do it too?"

Percival unsheathes his sword, flipping it in the air, catching it, and
stabbing it into the ground next to Borus' sword in one motion.  He looks at
the two swords next to each other and places his right hand over his heart.

Percival:  "I, Percival Fraulein of the Zexen Knights, hereby take an oath to
dedicate myself to the commander of the Zexen Knights, Lady Chris Lightfellow,
and fight by her side in battles as her sword and shield."

Borus turns to look at Percival, who nods at Chris.  The screen shakes as the
scene cuts away to Leo's huge axe being planted into the ground.  Leo stands
with his arms folded over the axe handle.

Leo:  "I, Leo Gallen of the Zexen Knights, hereby take an oath to dedicate
myself to the commander of the Zexen Knights, Lady Chris Lightfellow, and fight
by her side in battles as her sword and shield."

Roland looks around:  "How about you, Lord Salome?"
Salome:  "I already made my oath a long time ago."
Roland:  "I see.  As for myself, I don't fight with a sword."

Roland steps toward Chris and gets on one knee in front of her.

Roland:  "I, Roland Lesaurus of the Zexen Knights, hereby take an oath in the
names of the Zexen Federation and my tribe, and my long ears to work for the
commander of the Knights, Lady Chris Lightfellow."
Louis:  "That's cool.  I want to take an oath too when I become a knight one
day."
Salome smiles at Louis:  "I think you can at a time like this."
Louis:  "Really?"
Salome nods in reply.

Louis gets on one knee in front of Chris, with his right hand over his heart.

Louis:  "I, Louis Keeferson, apprentice of the Zexen Knights, hereby take an
oath in the names of the Zexen Federation, my tribe, and my long ears to work
for the commander of the Knights, Lady Chris Lightfellow."

Louis offers his hands up to Chris.  She smiles and places her left hand in
his.  Louis smiles and leans forward, kissing Chris' hand.  Borus, seeing this,
breaks out of his "oath" pose and steps toward Louis.

Borus:  "Louis!"
Louis:  "Ha ha ha!"
Chris:  "Borus, stop fooling around."

Everyone stands up and retrieves their weapons.

Salome:  "Well, we should be going.  We don't have much time."
Chris nods in agreement:  "Let's go!  We will fight and protect many in the
name of the Zexen Knights.  We'll all come back alive, too!"
Salome:  "So may it be, milady!"

Chris takes the point toward the platform and the other knights fall in.  When
they reach the True Water Rune platform, Sarah confronts Chris.

Sarah:  "Am I correct in saying that you refuse, at any cost, to stop
interfering with Master Luc?"
Chris:  "Positively.  You should be well aware of what will happen if the True
Wind Rune is released and spirals out of control.  It's unfathomable how many
people will be destroyed by this!"
Sarah raises her staff:  "Certainly, I am aware.  But it is necessary.
Besides, it isn't as if the sword by your side is innocent of taking lives, as
well..."
Chris:  "What?!  I use my sword to protect people, not to destroy them!"
Sarah:  "Master Luc wishes to give the people dignity.  This is the most
valuable thing in the world."
Chris:  "More valuable than life?"
Sarah:  "Let me ask you this:  Which is more important, your duty or your
life?"
Chris draws her sword:  "This is ridiculous!  Your life is far less valuable
than the countless lives you plan on sacrificing.  I will feel no remorse by
taking it!"
Sarah:  "Chris, it is unfortunate that you and I will never see eye to eye..."

After Sarah is defeated, Chris stands over her as Sarah lies on the ground.

Chris:  "This is as it should be."
Sarah gets up:  "Please forgive me, Master Luc.  I am not strong enough."
Chris walks toward her:  "Get out of the way!  I am reclaiming the True Water
Rune."
Sarah:  "No, I won't!  I'll give my life to keep it here!"

Chris closes her eyes and pauses.  She walks up to Sarah and raises her sword
as the scene shifts to slow motion.  We see Chris raise her sword as Sarah
closes her eyes, anticipating the deathblow.  Chris strikes her with the
pommel of her sword, knocking Sarah unconscious.

Chris:  "You mustn't be so willing to die!"

Chris then reclaims the True Water Rune.  This last ending is for Chris as
Flame Champion.  If you take her default party (that includes Louis for
support) to this battle, you will see the bonus scene described after beating
the True Wind Rune.  When Chris and her party enter they see Luc, his back to
them, looking at the True Wind Rune's pedestal.

Chris:  "I'm finally here.  Your allies either ran away or suffered defeat,
leaving you behind.  Why destroy the True Wind Rune and so many innocent lives
along with it?  You should give up now and let life go on."
Luc:  "Ever since I was born, I've been alone.  You have too, Flame Champion,
Chris, White Maiden of Zexen, Chris Lightfellow, the hero.  You already know
that power and fame don't guarantee happiness."
Chris:  "So what?!  I've got friends I trust and duties to fulfill!  Maybe fame
and power won't make me happy, but other things will!  You and I are nothing
alike!"
Luc:  "The True Fire Rune, like all runes, stores memories of its past bearers.
Did they lead happy lives?  Learn from their memories.  Learn the truth about
the world and learn about what I'm trying to do."

The screen fades to white and the scene changes to Brass Castle's eastern
courtyard.  The background is in black and white, with Chris, in color, in the
foreground.  She is puzzled by her surroundings and senses something watching
her.  She defeats a group of guardian eyes and walks to the entrance.  She sees
the flags over the archway and recognizes the Zexen crest.  After dispatching
another group of guardian eyes, she gets her bearings.

Chris:  "What's wrong here?  I don't feel a life force anywhere.  Can this be
the real Brass Castle?"
Luc has appeared behind Chris:  "This is our future...at least one of them."
Chris:  "Future?"
[Luc:  "Do you hear how quiet it is?  Every sound, form, and color blend into
complete tranquility.  This is the absolute world."]
Chris:  "What are you saying?  What do you mean by absolute world?"
Luc:  "In this parallel world, battles are fought between dharma and chaos.
This balance of power brings justice."
Chris:  "Balance?  I have heard that a girl from Alma Kinan saw a dream of a
balancing scale."
Luc:  "The 27 True Runes were an incarnation of God in this world.  This world
was born after the war of the sword and the shield.  So began the eternal
struggle between dharma and chaos.  What you see here is one of its termini.
This is a world of silence universally reigned by the power of dharma, the
orderly cosmos."
Chris:  "Rubbish!  What myth is this?  I have never heard of it in the stories
of Saint Loa."
Luc:  "It is truth sprung from the collective imagination of the people.  It is
the true destiny--our destiny.  This is where the world will eventually end up:
this quiet, sad world."
Chris:  "You say this world of the dead is the terminus?  Nonsense!  Where are
the people?  Do you mean to say that this is the world where people live?  A
totally dry, unfeeling world?"

Luc shakes his head.

Luc:  "Human existence interferes with the realm of the absolute.  Humans have
needs in their world, but the world does not need them."
Chris:  "Did you say that the world doesn't need people?  What meaning would
the world have like that?  The swords of the Knights are meant to protect
people.  A world without people has no soul.  The will of a person can change
destiny.  These are the Flame Champion, FC's words.  I believe this as well!"

[The background behind Chris and Luc fades all to black.]

Luc:  "That's what I wanted to hear."
Chris:  "What?"
Luc disappears then re-appears:  "I could see the future, a predetermined
future, all this time."
Chris:  "You say you can foretell the future?  What arrogance!  If you say it
is the power of the True Rune, why doesn't the rune that I bear tell me
anything?"
Luc:  "The True Wind Rune is with my soul.  Sasarai and I were created to bear
the 27 True Runes.  The Chief Bishop Hikusaak created us for a secret ritual.
One man can bear only one True Rune, and the successor to the rune is chosen
by the rune itself.  We were created to provide a safe holding place for the
True Runes.  We were his clones."
Chris:  "Chief Bishop Hikusaak's clones!"
Luc:  "The world you just saw was kept as a memory in the True Wind Rune.  The
Flame Champion, FC, might have been able to see it vaguely.  It was the future
of this world."

Luc disappears again and re-appears standing far away in front of Chris.

Chris:  "What are you trying to say here?"
Luc stares at his right hand's palm:  "I already told you:  I'll destroy this
True Wind Rune and myself."

Luc clenches his fist.

Luc:  [Just like the Flame Champion said, I can change our destiny!  Since the
True Rune causes this eternal struggle, perhaps I can change our fate by
destroying that rune.  This is not the future you deserve.  No!  Before I
acquired the power, I was helpless.  Now, I am different.  I have the
knowledge!  With the ultimate knowledge from the Cyndar Clan, I can change the
world's destiny.  I'll release humans from bondage!"]
Chris:  "..."

[Luc extends his right hand toward her.]

[Luc:  "Now, if you understand me, return your rune to the pedestal.  I'll use
human willpower to change the future!"]
Chris:  "..."
Luc:  "Hurry up!  You can destroy destiny!"
Chris:  "This disgusts me!"
Luc:  "?"
Chris:  "This is a disgusting way to make excuses.  The True Fire Rune went out
of control and burned the armies of Harmonia and the Grasslands.  Then the True
Water Rune blew up the Ruins of Cyndar.  You want to destroy the runes?  You
must know what calamity this will bring.  And you're still going to do it?"
Luc:  "Did I not tell you that the freedom of a prisoner is not real freedom?"
Chris:  "You talk about destiny and freedom, but they matter only after our
everyday needs have been satisfied.  Are you really ready to sacrifice human
lives for your destiny and freedom?  Do you comprehend the importance of human
life?"
Luc:  "I've learned a lot.  I have good reasons for doing this, even if it
means being responsible for taking the lives of a million people."
Chris draws her sword:  "Then I will be the last person to stand before you.  I
will become the shield to block you.  This is the reason I am a knight!"

The scene fades to black then back to the True Wind Rune platform, with Chris
on her knees, exhausted.  Her party advises her to stop before the final battle
and recuperate.  When she is ready, she and her party square off with Luc's
powered up True Wind Rune.  After Luc's defeat, he is on one knee, breathing
heavily from the battle.

Chris:  "It's over.  This is it."
[Luc:  "Yes.  After all, I, too am bound by destiny."]
Chris:  "Destiny?!  You can't just disregard the power of choice!  You say
everything's predetermined?  Nonsense!  Why would so many people sacrifice
their lives?  You can't get away with this!"

The site starts to fall apart and the knights tell Chris they must escape.

Chris:  "Not yet!  We have to get him."

As the site becomes more unstable, Chris is convinced to leave.  She takes one
last backward glance at Luc, then runs to catch up with her party.  After the
various scenes with Thomas/Cecile, Rico/Fred, etc., we see Chris, Louis,
Roland, and Salome in the corner alcove while Borus and Percival, swords drawn,
cover the hallway with approaching monsters.  Leo covers the other hallway.
Borus shakes his head.

Borus:  "Damn!  Are they ever going to stop turning up?"

He and Percival sheathe their swords and walk back to the others.

Salome:  "Hell's gate might have opened by itself."
Leo:  "Then I'll go complain.  That devil needs some discipline."
Roland:  "Is that a joke, sir?"
Leo:  "No, I'm serious."
Percival:  "Ha, ha.  That's interesting.  Leo is single-handedly going to knock
off Lucifer, King of Hell."
Chris:  "Really!  We're in the middle of a battle, and we still have to
evacuate."
Percival is still smiling:  "Rest assured, milady, we'll get you out of here
safely."
Salome smiles and turns toward the others:  "We have the best of our knights
gathered here.  Even Lucifer would avoid us, milady."
Chris smiles back at him:  "I trust you all.  Let's go."
Louis points in the direction of one of the halls:  "Oh no, oh no!"

Chris turns and sees the monsters approaching, as well as from the other hall.

Borus:  "I will take care of them all!"

Borus unsheathes his sword.  The camera pans around as Percival and Leo also
ready their weapons while Salome stands back to back with Roland.  Louis smiles
as he sees the knights ready for action.  Chris draws her sword and the screen
fades to white.  Chris is walking along the front of the main house at Lake
Castle with Salome.

Salome:  "It is so unfortunate.  The people of Vinay Del Zexay didn't consider
the battle as their battle since they weren't directly affected."
Chris:  "I know how hard-headed the Council is."
Salome:  "So how can I explain it to them?"
Chris:  "I'm tired of their tricks and lies.  I'll go talk to them myself!"

They walk up to the front entrance of the house where Lucia and Hugo are
standing.

Chris:  "Chief Lucia, can I have a minute with you?"
Lucia:  "Of course, we have time."
Chris:  "It's taking longer than it should to convince the Council to sign the
treaty.  We can't act on anything right away."
Salome:  "A councilor with secret connections to Harmonia was forced to resign.
As for the treaty, the council meticulously weighs the pros and cons of every
decision.  It takes them forever to act."
Lucia:  "Alas!  I am starting to see how it is in your world."
Chris:  "I think it's the same for both of us."
Lucia shakes her head:  "Maybe we should maintain the status quo.  We shouldn't
change our relationship right now.  Hasty changes aren't always good in the
long run."
Chris nods:  "That's a good idea.  I don't think I can change my beliefs
overnight."
Dupa walks up to them:  "That's true.  Who will we fight if we have no more
ironheads to give us trouble?"
Chris turns to face him and puts her hand over her heart:  "I'll be happy to
provide something to 'amuse' you."
Dupa cocks his head back:  "Haaaa!"
Lucia:  "Chris, there's no way of knowing where we'll meet again, it may be at
a treaty-signing ceremony or on the battlefield.  For now, let us respect each
other's viewpoints and see how it goes.  We can't expect to forge a close bond
right away."
Chris:  "You are a realist."
Lucia:  "You have to be tough to survive whether it be on the streets of Zexen
or in the plains of the Grasslands."
Chris:  "The Fire Bringer have disbanded.  I'll be reinstalled as the Commander
of the Zexen Knights.  You'll resume your position as Chief of the Karaya Clan,
right?"
Lucia:  "That's the only way."
Chris:  "I look forward to meeting you again, perhaps on a battleground."
Lucia:  "Same here."

The screen fades to black and the scene shifts to the eastern bridge of Brass
Castle.  The Six Mighty Knights of Zexen, on horseback with Louis on foot, are
making their way to the entrance.

Borus:  "I'm back!  Home sweet home!"
Percival:  "Borus, you always say that."
Borus:  "Well, don't you agree with me?  It's been only a few months, but it
felt longer."
Leo:  "I agree.  It's good to be back."
Roland:  "What was the end result of all our battles?  What happens now?"
Chris:  "That's for historians to decide.  Our job remains the same: to protect
the Zexen Federation.  That's the best we can do."
Salome:  "That is the way of the world.  Never does it change."
Chris:  "Nevertheless, it's good to be back.  The [Budehuc] Castle was okay,
but the beds were hard as rock!"
Borus:  "Those things are the least of my worries."
Louis:  "Let me remind you, sir, that Lady Chris was born with a silver spoon
in her mouth.  She's used to more comfort and luxury!"
Borus:  "That's very rude of you to say so."
Leo:  "Ha, ha, ha!"
Chris smiles:  "Heh, heh!"

The camera pans back for a wide shot of all the knights and Louis, then pans
upward to the sky and the 108 stars of destiny roll call begins.

Chris' end picture shows her, Thomas, and Salome in the foreground at Budehuc
Castle.  Thomas and Salome are looking at papers.  In the background, Cecile
is apparently holding back Leo, Percival, Borus, Roland, and Louis as they
look at what's going on in the foreground.


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8.  Luc's POV

8a.  Introduction

Luc is the sixth flame represented at the Trinity Site.  In order to play his
POV, you have to have 104 stars recruited before the final strategy battle in
Chapter 5 and not have anyone die in the strategy battles.  You can make sure
you've unlocked his POV by checking the Tablet of Stars after the last strategy
battle.  You should have 108/108 stars and only Jimba and Yun's names should be
in red, indicating they're dead.  After the 108 stars of destiny roll call and
the end picture for whoever you picked for Flame Champion, hit X and the screen
will go dark.  It may take a minute but you'll eventually see the Trinity Site
again and the sixth circle will be lit indicating you can play Luc's POV.

Luc's POV allows you to replay all the events represented in the 3 main
characters' chapters but from Luc's perspective.  The choices you made in your
interactions with he and his group and how you fared in battle against them are
replayed in this POV.  If you lost any of the optional battles to him you will
get to replay those scenes using Luc, Sarah, and Yuber.  In case you're
wondering, Luc's treasure boss victory and impatience animation is grabbing
his shoulder and cocking his head.  Sarah does not have any special animations.

8b.  Luc's Story

It is night outside of Leknaat's tower.  Inside, she is standing in a large,
circular room, flanked by a couple of torches lit by blue flames.  She is
wearing a simple, long white robe.  Luc, unmasked, is standing in front of her.

Leknaat:  "So you are leaving...?"
Luc:  "The time I've been waiting for has come."
Leknaat:  "What if I stop you?"

Magical energy emits from Leknaat towards Luc but it simply goes around him, as
if he is protected by an invisible barrier.

Luc:  "You can't.  Not with your imperfect Gate Rune."
Leknaat:  "..."
Luc:  "I have hatred towards the entire world, and you are no exception."

He turns and walks away from her.

Leknaat:  "Is this truly what you want?"
Luc stops:  "..."

He continues and exits.

-Great Hollow-

Luc, with his mask on, Yuber, Albert, and Sarah stand outside the entrance to
the Great Hollow.

Yuber:  "Shall we begin?"
Luc:  "Er...Yeah..."
Yuber:  "What is it?  I hope you're not hesitating.  If you quit after coming
this far..."
Sarah:  "What are you trying to say?"
Yuber:  "What do you think?"
Sarah grows angry:  "I think I'd be happy to take you on."
Albert:  "We don't have time to get into arguments.  Our operation requires
minute-by-minute precision and swiftness."
Luc steps up to Yuber:  "Don't mind me, Yuber.  I was just thinking about
something.  My decision stands.  I will collect all Five Elemental Runes and
destroy the hideous True Wind Rune.  This is the only way I can escape my fate,
which is bound by the rune."
Sarah moves to stand next to Luc:  "Master Luc, I will follow your path."
Yuber:  "As long as I get to see the chaos you'll cause, I am happy to help
you."
Albert:  "Well, then, shall we get started?  This will be the spark that
ignites the flame of war."

The four of them move into one of the Lizard Clan passageways.

Albert:  "Let's go over our plan.  Up ahead is the room of Chief Zepon of the
Lizard Clan.  Yuber, you'll do your part as arranged. (he turns to Luc and
Sarah) We'll create a force field on the way as a trap."
Yuber:  "Sounds good.  Depend on me!"

The group moves to the main back passageway.

Yuber:  "Further ahead, I suppose."
Albert nods:  "Yes.  Master Luc, let's erect the force field here.  We'll set
a trap at the other exit."

Sarah waves her staff in the air, which emits magical energy.

Sarah:  "This should do it."
Yuber:  "Deceptive magic, isn't it?  Now, all I have to do is to go back to the
first pathway."
Sarah:  "Yes.  Your pursuers will chase an illusion from here."
Yuber:  "All right, see you later.  I have an old grudge to settle with Zepon,
so this should be great!" (he walks off toward Zepon's room)
Albert:  "Very well.  We'll go over to the other side now."
Luc:  "Excellent!"

The three of them move to the clearing outside of the passageway.

Sarah:  "I didn't have time to make the force field illusion totally perfect,
but it should convince them they're fighting knights for quite some time."
Albert:  "We don't want to kill them.  What we want are witnesses."
Luc nods:  "True.  Will this magic look like a real swordfight to them?"
Sarah:  "Yes, but the wounds show, so please use only the wind spells and not
the fire or lightning."
Albert:  "All right.  I'll go on ahead to scout and twist the details.  I'll
leave the combat matters to you."
Luc:  "Fine." (Albert leaves)
Sarah turns toward Luc:  "Are you sure about this, Luc?"
Luc:  "I already said I've made up my mind, didn't I?"
Sarah:  "Yes."
Luc turns toward the passageway:  "Sarah, I think they're here."
Sarah:  "They are."

A group of Lizard Clan fighters emerge from the passageway.  When they see Luc
and Sarah, they believe they're Zexen knights.  Sarah refuses to answer their
questions and the pair attack, easily defeating the Lizard fighters.  After the
battle, Luc says the fighters they have just beaten were of low-level rank.  He
wants to wait for the commander.

At this point, the fight you had in Geddoe's chapter 1 takes place where he
fought "Chris" and the "Zexen knights"-now revealed to be Luc and Sarah.
Although you can fight this battle and win or lose, the resulting cutscene you
received in Geddoe's chapter 1 will still take place.  That is, if you beat
Luc and Sarah, you'll still get the cutscene where Sarah asks for Geddoe's name
even if you beat Geddoe's team in this POV.

-Karaya Clan-

Yuber, Albert, and Luc are standing in the middle of the Karaya Village, which
is on fire.

Luc:  "Where's Sarah?"
Albert:  "She was on her way here, but now we can't find her.  I warned her not
to try anything alone."
Yuber:  "Maybe she was repulsed by the smell of blood.  I don't see why.  I
love it!  I find it quite sweet."

A group of Karayan fighters spot Luc's group and rush up to them, drawing their
swords.

Karaya Fighter:  "Who are you?  Are you one of the Zexens?"
Yuber:  "Hmmm.  You don't need to know.  You are here to die."

Yuber and Luc make quick work of the Karayan fighters.

Yuber:  "This will do, I suppose."
Albert:  "Almost complete.  According to my calculations, a Zexen scouting
squad should be arriving shortly.  Call Sarah back."
Luc:  "Good.  I'll take care of this:  you two head for the site."

Yuber opens up a teleporation circle.

Albert:  "If you insist, but be careful!" (he and Yuber leave)
Luc surveys the burning village around him:  "The blaze of war..."

Something flies through the air past Luc.  He walks toward the direction it
came from to investigate.  He sees a nervous Karaya fighter, huddled next to a
young Karayan girl who is shaking and crying.

Luc:  "What was that?  A small child?"
The Karaya Fighter raises his sword, his whole body shaking:  "Come no closer,
you beast!  I-I'm a proud fighter of Karaya!  I can fight--I can!  I've been
called a c-coward b-but I'll defend the village!  You wait and see!!"
Karayan Child:  "Uuuh...ah...ooohhhh..."

Luc approaches closer to them.

The Karaya Fighter swings his sword around in the air:  "No!  Stay where you
are!  Don't come any closer!"

At this point, there are two options for Luc.

The first is "I have to kill you!"  Selecting this causes Luc to tell the
fighter he has to kill him because he has seen Luc and this interferes with his
objectives.  Luc raises his right hand and blasts the Karaya fighter with his
True Wind Rune, killing him.  The little girl stands over the dead body and
weeps.  Luc raises his right hand again and magical energy crackles around him.
He hesitates and a teleportation circle opens nearby.  He lowers his hand and
starts to walk away.  He turns to take one more look at the little girl crying.
He then continues on.

The second choice is "....."  Selecting this causes the Karaya fighter to
swing his sword some more, telling Luc to charge.  Luc blasts him with the True
Wind Rune but it only stuns him.  Luc stands over them and says, "I'll get you
next time!"  The fighter wises up, grabs the little girl, and escapes.  The
teleportation circle then opens nearby and Luc walks over to it.  I have not
noticed any differences to how the rest of the POV plays out depending on which
of the two choices you pick.

Luc walks up to greet Sarah, Albert, and Yuber who have just teleported back.

Sarah:  "Please forgive me.  I shouldn't have gone on my own."
Luc:  "Never mind, it's fine.  Are you ready?"
Sarah:  "Yes."
Yuber:  "I hope you're right about the Zexen Knights coming this way."
Albert nods:  "They will.  The Lizard Clan's convinced that Zexen Knights
murdered their chief.  They'll attack the knights at the truce negotiation.
There are only a few knights coming.  I've confirmed this.  They'll be
surrounded in the Grasslands, cut off from the main army.  Their military
strategist is Salome Harras, the assistant commander.  I know his thinking
well enough to surmise that he'll raid this village to break the siege."
Yuber:  "How can you be so sure?"
Albert:  "Reality flows from cause to effect like a mathematical equation.
Mortals can't comprehend this.  They're so pathetic."
Luc:  "But you are different than all of them?"
Albert:  "My family, the Silverbergs, have worked hard for generations to put
history on the right track, so to speak."
Yuber:  "Looks like you're right.  Here they come!"

A group of Zexen knights, mounted on horseback, have arrived in the village.

Zexen Knight:  "Who are you?  What's going on?"
Yuber:  "Who are YOU?  Why not tell us YOUR identity?  On second thought, who
cares?  You and the villagers are good mediums for anger."
Zexen Knight:  "What did you say?"

Luc, Sarah, and Yuber engage the knights, beating them.  Yuber, Luc, and Albert
survey their corpses.

Yuber:  "This should do."
Albert:  "Uh-huh.  Casualties in the Karaya Clan and the Zexen Knights' Advance
squad.  Then..."
Sarah:  "I've finished installing the force field of anger.  The spell reacts
to human emotion, it relies heavily on conditions at the time."
Yuber:  "Then these are optimum conditions, are they not?"
Sarah:  "Yes.  Bloodshed is crucial.  I find it disgraceful, but you seem to
have a taste for it, Yuber."
Yuber:  "How right you are, my dear!"
Luc:  "We should get back if we're done here.  Less chance of discovery.  Time
is of the essence."

Luc opens a teleportation circle and the group departs.

-Ancient Pathway-

This is the same scene as in Hugo's chapter 2 where he, Sgt. Joe, Fubar, Lilly,
Reed, and Samus observe Luc and co. trying to open the doors.  Before they
arrived, this is the conversation that took place:

Luc:  "This is the Seal of Cyndar...One of the Five Elemental Runes is
concealed ahead.  We'll start with this one.  Once we have two, it should be
easy to get the rest."
Yuber:  "Splendid."

Yuber steps toward the door but a magical barrier blocks his path.

Yuber:  "Damn!  It doesn't want to let me through..."
Sarah:  "The seal is strong...It consists of what the Cyndars left, plus other,
later additions, which are neither Cyndar, nor Harmonian.  This is very rare."
Albert:  "Explain."
Sarah:  "In addition to the original seal, they've added a new one.  They've
hidden the key somewhere else.  This could be the Grasslands way of doing
things."
Luc approaches the door:  "Can you step back a little?  As a successor of the
27 True Runes, I will release the seal."

The rest of the scene plays out how based on your choices in Hugo's chapter.
For me, I picked to talk with Luc's group using Sgt. Joe and Hugo.  As Luc's
group leaves, Yuber stays behind to fight Hugo's team.  If you lost to them,
you'll get to use Yuber.  If you beat Yuber, you'll see the cutscene where
he's on one knee and gets a tongue lashing from Lilly.  Sarah then appears and
teleports Yuber away.

-Crystal Valley, Circle Palace-

Luc walks down the hallway inside a structure apparently made all of crystal.
The long hallway is lined on each side with a row of Harmonian soldiers.  The
circle shape is a recurring pattern, on the designs of the hall floor, the
curves in the Harmonian outfits, the shape of the elevated platforms, and the
patterns on the floor of the platforms.  Luc, still masked, walks up to the
elevated, circular platforms inside a crystal domed room. Harmonian clerics in
robes and large hats (similar to the one Sasarai wore in Suikoden II) form a
circular line around the bottom platform.  Sasarai stands in the middle of the
top platform.  He does not know that the masked man is Luc.  Luc walks up to
Sasarai and kneels before him.

Luc:  "It gives me great joy to devote my body and soul to my master and
father, Chief Bishop Hikusaak, who controls all." (Luc bows his head)
Sasarai walks up to him:  "I have been instructed by Chief Bishop Hikusaak
to appoint you as bishop."
Luc:  "I am honored."
Sasarai:  "Rise, bishop.  Blessings to you from the Circle Rune."

Luc rises to his feet.  Sasarai stands in front of him and makes a sign similar
to that of a cross in front of Luc with his right hand.  Sasarai then puts his
hands on Luc's shoulders and kisses both sides of Luc's neck.  On the second
kiss, he pulls Luc in and whispers in his ear.

Sasarai:  "Very clever to use the words 'my father.'  How crafty of you to be
named a bishop without revealing your name or face."
Luc:  "Forgive my grandiloquence, but it is how I feel."
Sasarai:  "Can I trust your word?"
Luc:  "..."

Sasarai pulls back and steps away from Luc:  "Blessings to our new bishop!"

The Harmonian soldiers in the hall stand at attention.  Luc turns and walks
away from Sasarai.

-Le Buque-

Luc and Sarah are seated at a table inside one of the Le Buque houses.  A
villager is attending to them.

Villager:  "We never expected an honorable bishop to come to a remote town like
ours.  I'm afraid we didn't have enough time to prepare for your visit.  Please
feel free to use this room."
Luc:  "Your service is greatly appreciated." (the villager turns and leaves)
Sarah:  "Master Luc, has the Circle Palace changed since I left?"
Luc:  "Do you wish to go back there, Sarah?"
Sarah takes a step back and shakes her head:  "No, master, my only place is by
your side."
Luc:  "Sarah..."

Luc then walks out to the entrance of the village.  This is the scene in
Geddoe's chapter 2 when his team visits Le Buque and meet Franz for the first
time.  The conversation is exactly the same as in Geddoe's chapter, including
whatever choice you picked for talking to Luc as he walked away.  Sarah and Luc
then walk back to the village.

Sarah:  "Master Luc?"
Luc:  "What is it?"
Sarah:  "I'll have a Mantor trainer get ready.  Please proceed when he's here."
Luc:  "I will, thanks.  I'm quite exhausted from traveling to Crystal Valley
and back."

Luc turns and walks back to their room.  Sarah walks over to where Franz is
standing.

Sarah:  "Excuse me.  You're one of the Mantor trainers, aren't you?"
Franz:  "I am.  And if I'm not mistaken, you're the bishop's attendant.  What
can I do for you?"
Sarah:  "Could you ready yourself, please?"
Franz:  "Certainly.  I'll get the Mantors ready, too."
Sarah:  "Thank you." (she turns and starts to walk back)
Franz:  "Er, excuse me, ma'am."
Sarah stops:  "Yes?"
Franz:  "Er, I have a favor to ask you."
Sarah:  "Yes?"
Franz:  "Could you ask the bishop to consider making the people of Le Buque
second-class citizens?"
Sarah:  "If I'm correct, Le Buque only became part of Harmonia a few decades
back.  It usually takes a lot longer than that to become second-class
citizens."
Franz:  "Yes, but I've heard othat some countries acquired second-class status
through exemplary service on the battlefield.  Isn't there some way I could
prevent my people from being treated like slaves?  Can you help?"
Sarah:  "....... (she looks around)  This place feels like a prison for you,
doesn't it?"
Franz looks away:  "Sorry, I didn't mean to..."
Sarah:  "No, no.  I'll pass on your wishes, but that's all I can do."
Franz:  "Oh, thank you very much!"
Sarah walks away then pauses:  "In my view, you are the ones who are actually
free."

She goes back to Luc's room where he is sitting at the table, his hands are
together with his elbows on the table.

Sarah:  "All preparations are complete."
Luc:  "Could I...have some time?"
Sarah:  "Something on your mind?"
Luc:  "Yes...Time flows toward the end of the world.  Can you see it?"
Sarah:  "The end of the world?"
Luc:  "Yes, the end of the future.  Don't you see?"
Sarah shakes her head:  "I'm not powerful enough, I guess.  Master Luc, can you
see that?"
Luc:  "I don't see it, but the True Wind Rune remembers it."
Sarah:  "Really?"
Luc:  "The world will ultimately end in a huge battle to settle the power
struggle between dharma and chaos.  Humans will not survive.  Our future is
predetermined.  To avoid our fate, we'd have to oppose the battle which
controls the world:  that of man versus balance.  It's a war against the gods.
Man can't fight his destiny.  This is the end, known by the True Wind Rune.
The desired end."
Sarah:  "How can you know your future?"
Luc:  "This world is one of several million worls that exist.  And this battle
has been fought many thousands of times..."
Sarah:  "..."
Luc:  "But I..."
Sarah:  "Master, you want to change the future, our destiny?"
Luc:  "Others would find this act unforgivable.  A million people will die.  I
know extreme death, but I still don't have the courage."
Sarah:  "Master Luc, if you want to carry out your wish, I will follow you.
Include me in the millions of lives you take."
Luc:  "I too will perish."
Sarah:  "As I trust you, I'll follow your path.  This is my nature."
Luc:  "Thank you, Sarah..."

If in Geddoe's chapter 2 you took the opportunity to spy on Sarah and Luc,
Sarah will hear you outside and ask if Luc wants her to take care of the
problem.  He says he would rather not deal with it.

-Alma Kinan-

Yuber is standing outside the village where the ritual with Yun is taking
place.  Luc and Sarah appear, having teleported.

Yuber:  "Hmm, you're late."
Luc:  "The Flame Champion tricked us again.  He's clever.  Difficult to deal
with."
Yuber:  "So it was his idea to leave the key to the seal here in Alma Kinan, a
village virtually hidden behind a curtain of rituals."
Sarah:  "The ritual must have begun already."
Yuber nods:  "Indeed.  I've been waiting for this!"

The scene plays out the same as in Chris' chapter 3, where she stops Luc's
group from interrupting the ritual.  After their defeat, Luc and his team
teleport away to safety again.

-Caleria-

Yuber, Sarah, and Luc are in the room on the 2nd floor of the Caleria Inn.
Yuber is relaxing in a chair while Luc and Sarah are standing.

Yuber:  "Look what we've got.  Nothing!  The seal of the Fire Rune was fake.
The seal for the Water Rune disappeared before we could even take it."
Sarah turns to Luc:  "Shall we delay the Harmonian main army's invasion?"
Luc:  "No, we won't alter the schedule.  The temple will realize our plan
sooner or later.  We must carry out the whole plan before then."
Sarah:  "Time is running short."
Luc:  "Uh huh, but if we miss this chance, we'll never be able to collect all
five True Runes."
Yuber:  "Are we really that short on time?"
Luc:  "I am not as patient as you.  By the way, where is Albert?"
Sarah:  "He was supposed to meet us here.  I'll go look for him."

Luc (or rather, the player) wanders around the village to kill time.  If you've
played this scenario and didn't know, the item and rune shops in Caleria for
Luc's POV carry some very rare and powerful runes such as Barrier, Fury, Gale,
and Pale Gate.  It's interesting to note that Sarah has an "S" ranking for
Pale Gate magic but has a Flowing Rune attached to her head that can't be
removed.  If you didn't get recipe #15 from the woman down in the bar, she'll
give it to you now.  Mike and Hortez can also be visited.  Mike says he's an
arms salesman named "Leonard."  One of the men in the Caleria bar also mention
that he played cards with a man claiming to be a detective in the trade shop.
After several minutes, Luc heads back to the inn and meets with Albert.

Yuber:  "I'm surprised you're late.  You're usually so punctual."
Albert:  "Sorry, but I stumbled upon some very intriguing information."
Luc:  "Information?"
Albert:  "Yes.  I was with Bishop Sasarai's unit en route to invade Chisha
Village when I heard a rumor that a boy calling himself the Flame Champion
turned up after I left the village."
Yuber:  "Chisha Village?  The regular army had problems with the measly little
village!  What's going on?"
Albert shakes his head:  "It was just a scouting squad so you couldn't really
expect more of them."
Luc:  "Anyway, what about the boy who called himself the Flame Champion?"
Albert:  "There was a cunning little brat with them, so it must be one of their
tactics.  One of our scouts said he saw them head for a mountain north of
Chisha Village."
Sarah:  "What do you mean?"
Albert:  "I was intrigued so I did some research.  I found a report in the
Harmonian regular army's records.  They surveyed the Cyndar Ruins at the time
of the last invasion 50 years ago.  FC, the head of the Fire Bringer at the
time, was supposedly born in that area."
Luc:  "Interesting...If the Cyndar Ruins are there, and if we can get close
enough, Sarah can tell us their exact location."
Albert:  "Yes, are we leaving right away?"
Luc:  "Uh huh, we might as well."
Albert:  "Then I'll have someone get ready for you."

-Serenia- (Flame Champion Hideaway)

Luc, Sarah, Yuber, and Albert enter the hideaway.

Yuber:  "Are you saying the Flame Champion, who bears one of the 27 True Runes,
is here?"
Luc:  "Sarah, do you feel anything?"
Sarah:  "No, but somehow..."

Luc and Sarah both turn in the direction of the teleportation circle deeper in
the cave.  They sense something.

Sarah:  "Master Luc, what was that?"
Luc:  "Yes, I felt it, too.  How could the True Fire Rune be here?  How could
it unseal itself?"
Sarah:  "Could it be...the successor?"
Luc:  "I don't know.  Even then, we just have to take the rune.  Let's hurry!"

At this point, you can make a beeline to the familiar circle or go and fight
the treasure boss (it's the winged Azzorree creature).  Luc won't loot any of
the corpses in the cave.  His team makes their way to the circle and pause,
staring at the design on the floor.

Luc:  "What can this be?"
Sarah:  "A seal.  This is another Cyndar seal, that was refurbished at a later
time.  It looks like it was loosened."
Luc:  "So this is why a few minutes ago...Sarah, do it."
Sarah:  "As you wish." (she concentrates and the screen fades to white)

The next scene is the same as the one in your chapter 4 after passing the test
of the True Fire Rune dragon.  Luc and co. arrive as Sana leads the 3 main
characters out.  If you were beaten by Luc's team, you get to replay this
battle using Luc.  If you beat them, it simply goes to the cutscene where Luc
tries to use his True Wind Rune and the Flame Champion's spirit blocks him,
followed shortly by Sgt. Joe, Fred and Rico, Nash, et. al.  Luc's team has
teleported safely to another part of the cave.

Luc:  "How could we fail again?  Damn it!"
Sarah:  "Nevertheless, since the True Fire Rune has a new owner, the seal
applied in the name of FC has weakend.  Now that the seal in Alman Kinan is
released..."
Yuber:  "What if it doesn't work?"
Luc:  "I have an idea..."

Luc's next line depends on who you picked as Flame Champion:

Luc:  "but that man had the True Lightning Rune..." (if Geddoe is FC)
Luc:  "but that boy's eyes...reminded me of the former..." (if Hugo is FC)
Luc:  "but that female knight...her spirit as a hero..."  (if Chris is FC)

-Ancient Pathway-

This is the same scene you see in your chapter 4 after seeing Jimba enter the
Ancient Highway where Luc and his team are finally able to open the door to
the Cyndar Ruins.  After entering the Ruins, they make their way up the steps
to the area where the True Water Rune awaits.  Sarah stops.

Sarah:  "Huh?"
Luc:  "What is it, Sarah?"
Sarah:  "It seems like someone has been following us.  It's the successor to
the True Fire Rune...I will remain here and prevent him from getting any
closer."
Luc:  "All right, Sarah, but do be careful.  Your opponent's title may be new
to him, but he has a True Rune."
Sarah:  "Please do not worry about me.  Remember, I have dedicated my life to
you.  You should take good care of yourself, Master Luc."
Luc:  "Thanks, Sarah.  I'll leave this to you."

The scene shifts to the giant True Water Rune seal, with Jimba lying at the
bottom of the steps.  Jimba had tried to put the True Water Rune back into his
body but failed, releasing a huge burst of magical energy.  Yuber and Albert
are standing over him with Luc sitting down close by, his hand on his forehead.

Luc:  "Ugh, how could this be..."
Jimba:  "I'd rather have it this way than give it up to you."

Yuber walks up to Jimba's prone body, burying his foot in the small of Jimba's
back and twisting it.

Albert:  "You're well aware of what happens when a rune goes out of control.
You must've seen it 50 years ago."
Jimba:  "I did, which is why I can't surrender the True Rune to you."
Albert:  "Are you sure?  You, these ruins, and the nearby area of Grassland
will be destroyed."
Jimba:  "So what?  I have the spirits protecting me."
Yuber flips Jimba over on to his back:  "Huh, mere superstition!"

As you saw in chapter 4, Sarah arrives and rushes up to Luc to check on him.

Yuber:  "This is getting complicated.  I think we should back off at once."
Albert:  "I agree.  We'll get it later."
Jimba stirs and looks at Luc:  "Hmm, you...are the bearer of the True Wind Rune
aren't you?  The spirits have told me so..."
Luc:  "So?"
Jimba:  "How long have you lived so far?"
Luc:  "30 years...I've been cursed for 30 years."
Jimba:  "Heh, you're still a child...I suppose you don't even have children of
your own."
Luc:  "Why would you want any when you're cursed?  You don't have a future, do
you understand?"

Jimba:  "Heh...don't be a fool.  I've lived 70 years and have just one
daughter.  I've tried to run away thinking like you.  When I had a baby girl,
I was scared for her future.  I just had a chance to see her recently...Heh,
heh!  She was astonishingly beautiful.  (he looks to the sky and sees an
image of Chris in her green outfit, the image smiles at him)  She reminded me
of Anna.  I almost cried with joy.  I'd been so filled with anger about my
fate, but then I felt happy for a moment.  (the image of Chris turns to one of
her in her armor)  If she's in the world, it doesn't matter whether I live or
die.  My daughter is on her way here, so she can carry on my visions.  This
will be the happiest moment in my life, I'm sure of it."  (his eyes close, a
smile on his face)

Luc:  "What are you getting at?"
Jimba:  "I'm saying that life is meaningless if you can't entrust it to
someone.  We don't age, but we are not given eternal life.  All that's just an
illusion.  You and I will eventually disappear.  Then..."
Luc:  "I will end the legacy of my miserable visions with my own hands..."
Jimba:  "Huh...you're still a kid."

Jimba's body contracts, as if he is having a seizure, then he is still.  Yuber
kicks him over so that he is face down.  Yuber draws his blade and turns toward
Luc.

Yuber:  "He's still breathing.  Shall I put an end to him?"
Luc:  "No, leave him alone.  What a pity.  He lives in his hope.  He won't
survive anyway."

-Crystal Valley, Circle Palace-

This is the scene at the start of chapter 5, when Nash reports to Sasarai that
the masked bishop intends to collect the Five True Runes for himself rather
than Harmonia.  The following picks up after Luc tells Sasarai he'll inform him
of exactly "who they are":

Sasarai:  "You and me?"
Luc:  "That's right.  Holy Harmonia...no, Chief Bishop Hikusaak wants to
collect all 27 True Runes.  Unfortunately, the True Runes can only be borne by
successors chosen by the runes themselves, and can only be sealed in certain
places."
Sasarai:  "So?"
Luc:  "So Hikusaak has acquired an interesting method to keep the True Runes in
his possession."

Luc raises his right hand, casting an image of a rune crystal that is filled
with floating human body parts.

Nash:  "What is it?"
Luc:  "A rune crystal.  But this is no ordinary crystal.  It is used for
sealing the 27 True Runes.  And can you guess what's inside?"

Sasarai looks closely at the crystal, a shocked expression coming over his face
as he realizes what's inside.

Sasarai:  "It's...No, it can't be...but it's appearance..."
Luc:  "Yes, this is...us.  Our arms, legs, eyes...everything dissolved in this
milky white liquid.  They're the ingredients for a human body.  And..."

Sasarai collapses to the ground, his hand covering his mouth.

Sasarai:  "Cough, cough!"
Luc stands over him:  "Look closely, it's us!!  This is what we're made of.
Made to bear the True Runes while maintaining a human appearance.  We are
duplicates of Hikusaak himself, who's also a rune bearer."
Nash:  "Why, you--"

Nash is about to attack Luc but is quickly thrown back by Luc's magic.

Luc:  "I will take the True Earth Rune.  You have no need for it."
Sasarai:  "No."
Luc:  "Do you mean to say that you have the willpower to live, despite this
knowledge?"
Sasarai:  "..."

There is a flash of light and Luc takes Sasarai's True Earth Rune.

-Le Buque-

Sarah and Luc are back in their familiar room.  Luc is seated at the table.

Sarah:  "The preparation is almost complete.  Albert and Yuber are adding the
final touches."
Luc:  "I see...Sarah, are you tired?  You look pale."
Sarah:  "A little.  Large-scale illusions are exhausting to create."
Luc:  "Please take care of yourself.  Now that we've lost the backing of the
Harmonian army, we must rely on your powers."
Sarah:  "I know.  Luc, are you really going through with the ritual?"
Luc:  "Absolutely, the ritual is my only hope."
Sarah:  "I see."

-Mt. Senai, Brass Castle-

The next two scenes are replays of when Luc takes the True Runes belonging to
Geddoe and Hugo in chapter 5.  No further dialogue or scenes were added to
them, so I have not provided any further description.

-Ritual Site Ruins-

Luc, Yuber, and Sarah are standing at the entrance to the Rune platforms.

Luc:  "Here at last!"
Sarah:  "Your wish will finally come true!"
Luc:  "Yes.  At last I can put an end to these 30 long years."
Yuber:  "The destruction of the True Rune will bring chaos.  This is fine by
me, but how does that make you feel as a human?"
Luc:  "Human, you say?"

Luc casts the image of the rune crystal that holds human parts.

Luc:  "Look at this.  This ball is filled with human components.  I'm just an
assortment of these.  I was created for the sole purpose of sealing the True
Runes.  Do you call this human?  I am no different from you, Yuber."
Yuber adjusts his hat:  "Me?  You must be kidding!  Actually, I suspect you
are somewhat fond of humans...You know, if you wish to free them from their
destiny, there is a very easy way..."

Albert walks in and interrupts.

Albert:  "If you mean death, then no thanks.  I rather enjoy the world
populated by humans."
Yuber:  "I thought you'd run away.  You've mangaged to gain favor in the eyes
of those in high positions."
Albert:  "Well, of course, that was my original intention.  But rest assured,
I wouldn't dream of interfering with your ritual."
Luc:  "If you do, I'll kill you on the spot!"
Sarah:  "Master Luc."
Albert:  "It's about time.  The Fire Bringer should arrive outside any minute.
Those who survived your wrath, that is..."
Luc:  "..."
Albert:  "Do I sense a lingering attachment to this world?"
Luc:  "Let's go, Sarah, Yuber!"

Luc starts toward the hallway.

Luc:  "No, there's no attachment.  They just reminded me of people I used to
know, that's all."

The four of them split up, each taking a separate route.  The POV then picks up
at the moment in chapter 5 when Sasarai, Dios, Thomas, and Cecile are making
their way to the True Earth Rune pedestal.  After Sasarai tells Dios to look, 
this is what happens:

Luc walks in from around the corner.

Sasarai:  "You!"

Luc pauses to look at him, then calmly turns and heads toward the pedestal.

Luc:  "I am surprised to see you've come this far, my elder brother.  I thought
you were a bishop sheltered in the temple."
Sasarai:  "I'll have the True Earth Rune returned to me and take your True Wind
Rune back to Harmonia, where it came from.  Leknaat, the witch, stole it when
she abducted you from the Crystal Valley."
Luc:  "You can talk your gibberish after you defeat me."

Luc raises his hand as the symbol of the True Wind Rune appears.  Dios starts
toward him, mad as heck.

Dios:  "You'll have to defeat me first.  I won't let you touch Bishop Sasarai."

Luc blasts him to the ground with the True Rune.

Dios:  "Uggghhh!  Sorry, Bishop Sasarai.  I'm not good at dealing with this."
Sasarai:  "Never mind, Dios, I'll take him on."
Cecile:  "Let me join you."
Sasarai:  "No thanks, you stay behind.  Let me finish this one."
Luc:  "You think you can win, my brother?"

A duel then takes place between Luc and Sasarai.  If you lose, you'll have to
start from your last save and fight Sasarai again.  After you beat him, you see
Luc standing with his right hand in the air, the True Wind Rune shining forth
with energy.  Sasarai is in front of Luc, on his knees bent over.  Thomas and
Cecile rush to block Luc's path.

Cecile:  "You can't do that!"
Thomas:  "No!  Not in a million years!  Go away!"

Luc waves his arm and the two of them go flying backward, landing with a thud
on the ground.  They bounce right back up however, to get inbetween Sasarai
and the approaching Luc.

Thomas:  "Stop!  Not until Bishop Sasarai gets his True Earth Rune back..."
Cecile:  "That's right, no way!"

Luc waves his arm (again) and the two sail across the room (again).  They get
back up (again) and block Luc's path (again), albeit slower.  They are both
exhausted but still defiant.

Thomas:  "I won't let you!  Never!"
Cecile:  "Master Thomas is right.  Never, never, never!"

Luc raises his hand, his True Wind Rune powering up.

Luc:  "Why do you persist?  Don't you want to live any longer?"
Thomas:  "I won't back down!  I promised everyone in the castle that I'd
protect them.  I keep promises."
Cecile:  "I made a promise to protect Master Thomas, and I stick to my oaths!"

Luc pulls his hand down as the magical energy dissipates.

Luc:  "Promises, promises. Is that all that matters to you? (the room shakes)
Damn!  Now I lose the Fire Rune!  This is getting ridiculous!"

A teleportation circle opens beneath Luc's feet.

Sasarai:  "Where are you going now?"
Luc:  "With the Earth Rune alone, the force field can be broken at any time.
The ritual must be done quickly."
Sasarai:  "Are you sure you can leave me here?  I'll get my True Earth Rune
back."

Luc turns to face Sasarai.

Luc: "I hate you more than anything in this world.  But at the same time,
you're the only one I empathize with."
Sasarai:  "Luc...you are..."
Luc turns his back to him:  "This will be the final battle to decide whether
humans can change their destiny.  I am a demon, prepared to sacrifice as many
lives as it takes.  You'll see it happen and you'll die here."

The scene fades and we next see Luc on one knee.  He has just been defeated by
the Flame Champion's team.  After they exit to escape the crumbling ruins, Luc
stands and walks back to the True Wind pedestal.  He collapses on all fours.

Luc:  "Ugh...uh..."

The screen fades to black.  We then see Sarah walking to the pedestal and
coming up to Luc.  She puts her arms around his torso.

Sarah:  "Master Luc..."

She sits him up and embraces him.

Sarah:  "Sir, are you all right?"
Luc:  "Sarah, I tried to gather the power of all Five Elemental Runes to
destroy the True Wind Rune I bore in my body.  I could only draw out its power.
My soul could not cope with such intensity."
Sarah:  "So what will happen now?"
Luc:  "These ruins will collapse...Sarah, you must escape.  You are free to
go."

Sarah holds on to him tighter.

Sarah:  "No, I'll stay.  I chose to follow you and let a million people die.  I
must be punished for this."
Luc:  "Sarah..."

The screen fades to black.  When it fades back in, Luc is lying on the ground,
his head resting in Sarah's lap with his eyes closed.  The ruins around them
are crumbling.

Sarah:  "I was living in that palace all alone.  No one cared for me, even
though they were after my power.  Only you..."
Luc:  "I might have been after your power, too..."

He reaches up to touch her cheek with his hand.  She raises her hand to touch
his.

Sarah:  "It doesn't matter.  I chose you because you brought me joy.  I must
accept my punishment..."
Luc:  "But..Still, you should..."

Sarah guides Luc's hand to gently stroke her face.  Luc opens his eyes to look
at her.

Luc:  "Sarah."

Her eyes are closed.

Luc looks down, closing his eyes:  "I sincerely thank you, Sarah...My soul will
be healed.  I'm convinced now that I too have a soul of my own..."

He turns his head toward Sarah.  The screen fades to black.  The end credits
roll.  After the credits, we see the interior of Leknaat's tower.  It is the
same room as when Luc's story began.  Leknaat is standing in the same place.
A bright white light is fluttering through the air inside the room.

Leknaat:  "So, you've returned! (the light stops in front of Leknaat)  That is
fine.  I will answer you if I see anything with these sightless eyes.  The
wheel of destiny is heavy for a man to turn, but it's not impossible.  I'm the
executor of the Balance...I have no tears to shed.  Luc, you challenged God
like a fool.  You disregarded a million lives with a cursed soul, but I forgive
you and bless you.  You're human, too.  I bless your soul."

Leknaat pauses.  The light is still hovering in front of her.

Leknaat:  "My apprentice, my son, child of a cursed rune, you're a human child.
One that can sleep now.  Even though Destiny can be brutal, it will allow you
to rest.  108 stars will bless you.  Man is powerful enough to change destiny.
(a second light, this one blue, has appeared next to the white one) No matter
how futile our struggles seem, they all make a difference!"

The two lights come closer to Leknaat.  They glow for a moment then fly
through the window, leaving trails of shimmering light in their paths.  The two
lights drift outside.  It is a clear, moonlit night.  The lights fly around the
tower, pause, then depart into the sky together.

The ending picture for Luc's Story shows Leknaat, Sarah (as a small child), and
Luc as they walk toward Leknaat's tower.  Leknaat and Luc are on either side
of Sarah and the three are holding hands.  The sun shines brightly in the
distance and the characters' backs are toward us.  The picture is faded out in
brown and white with no other colors.

It's debatable, but based on the ending cinema with the two lights, I believe
this picture shows the past when the three of them first arrived at Leknaat's
tower after escaping from Crystal Valley.  This would also mean that Luc and
Sarah both perished at the Ceremonial Site.


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9.  The 108 Stars of Destiny Roll Call

I have included notes when necessary for each of these descriptions.  If your 
character was killed in a strategy battle, it will list a generic "Killed in 
Battle" type statement instead of the description below.

Key:
[Dunan]-If you loaded Suikoden II data, this refers to the name you used for 
your army
[Budehuc]-This refers to the name you gave your castle in Suikoden III
[FC]-This refers to the person you picked for Flame Champion

Tensyo Star: Hugo (not FC)
Revives Karaya Village and succeeds Lucia as chief.

Tensyo Star:  Hugo (as FC)
Revives Karaya Village, succeeds Lucia as chief, and becomes a bridge between 
Zexen and Harmonia.

Tenko Star:  Sergeant Joe
Returns to Duck Village and remarries his ex.  He's devoted to his kids!

Tenku Star:  Fubar
Ends up living in Karaya Village with Hugo.  They get along just fine.

Teni Star:  Lucia
After yielding her position as chief to Hugo, she moves to [Dunan], where she 
works for Karaya's future.

Chijiku Star:  Beecham
Asked by Lucia to stay on as Chief Hugo's Lieutenant.  As hot-blooded as ever!

Chiin Star:  Luce
Wants to mother all children who have lost parents in war.  Wants one big happy 
family.

Tenyu Star:  Dupa
As chief of the Lizard Clan, he faces the Zexen Federation on the frontlines
of battle.

Tenmou Star:  Shiba
When the fighting ends, he returns to his clan and gets married.

Tenritsu Star:  Bazba
Maintains his position and never lets his guard down.

Chitan Star:  Wilder
Makes his living as a Grasslands guide who escorts caravans.

Chikaku Star:  Rhett
Member of Zexen Archeology Association.  Specialty:  ancient ritual sites.

Chiko Star:  Peggi
Stays in [Budehuc] Castle and gains a reputation as a blacksmith.
(In case you're wondering, Peggi is a guy according to Kidd's profiles)

Chisou Star:  Anne
Achieves dream of owning a shop in Karaya Village, but dislikes he rude and 
crude clientele.

Chibun Star:  Twaikin
Returns to Great Hollow and continues to expand it.

Chiyu Star:  Dominic
Keeps up armor shop in [Budehuc] Castle.  Customers avoid his lengthy chats.

Chisou Star:  Shizu
Entrusting Thomas with the key to her cozy hideaway, she sets off on a journey.

Chiku Star:  Mel
Sets out, leaving word she's visiting Branky's home town.

Chizou Star:  Mamie
Voyages to a new land, seeking the legendary cookbook once sought by her 
father.
(According to Kidd's profile, her father is Bashok from Suikoden II)

Chikyu Star:  Lilly Pendragon
Returns once to Tinto, then decides to study in Harmonia.  By the time the 
President notices, she is en route.

Chisa Star:  Reed
Ordered to stop Lilly, who talks him out of it.  He ends up accompanying her!

Chiyu Star:  Samus
Resigns as Lilly's bodyguard, but is sent back to her when Minister Marlowe 
refuses to accept the resignation.

Tenbi Star:  Chris (not FC)
Gains fame for her exemplary service as Captain of the Zexen Knights.

Tenbi Star:  Chris (as FC)
Tells Yun the battle's over.  Vows to fulfill Yun's wishes.

Chisyu Star:  Louis
Serves as an attendant and is eventually knighted.

Tenki Star:  Salome
One of Chris's lieutenants.  Assistant leader of the Zexen Knights.

Chisyu Star:  Leo
True to his nickname, Iron Leo always gives 100 percent.  Active in Zexen-
Tinto border clashes.

Chiki Star:  Percival
Returns to Iksay Village.  When war breaks out, rejoins the knights.  Neither 
his sword nor his skills got rusty.

Chimou Star:  Borus
Borus's cavalry always leads the charge in the Zexen-Tinto border clashes.

Chiin Star:  Roland
Fiercely loyal to Chris, this cool-headed elf-knight is committed to Zexen 
service to the end.

Chii Star:  Fred Maximillian
Hearing that evil is afoot once again, he sets off on a new journey.

Chiei Star:  Rico
Asks to return many times.  Thoroughly ignored, she winds up helping Fred.

Tenbou Star:  Scott
Seeking new trade routes, he journeys to the western continent.

Tenkoku Star:  Ernie
Joins Archeology Association and researches ritual sites.  Discovers the Secret 
Zexen Ritual Inscription.

Chisu Star:  Mike
Departs [Budehuc] Castle in the middle of the night with several mystery men, 
and never returns.
(In Kidd's profile, he mentions Mike meeting with hooded men who appeared to be 
showing him signs of respect.  Also in the profile, it appears that Mike and 
Watari know each other.  In Luc's POV, Mike refers to himself as an armorer 
named "Leonard")

Chichin Star:  Augustine Nabor
Hears rumor of a beautiful palace in Toran and sets off to find it.
(Kidd's profile states that he got his rose brooch as a prize for winning a 
Male Beauty Contest judged by Vincent from Suikoden I and II)

Chikou Star:  Gordon
Admirably elegant, a model Zexen gentleman.

Chibou Star:  Jefferson
He bustles about, conferring titles to new residents at [Budehuc] Castle upon 
their arrival.

Tensatu Star:  Hallec
Per [FC]'s suggestion, he returns to his village with Tuta and others, who get 
rid of many infectious diseases.

Chiretsu Star:  Mua
Follows the saga of the Flame Champion.  His quest complete, he returns to his 
homeland and gets married.

Tenfu Star:  Jimba (Chris is not FC)
Vanishes from the pages of history after two turns as a Champion's partner.

Tenfu Star:  Jimba (Chris is FC)
He is content to depart after he leaves behind evidence of his time on Earth.

Tenei Star:  Yuiri
Retires to Alma Kinan Village and leads a peaceful life.

Tenyu Star:  Yumi
Returns with Yuiri to Alma Kinan Village, but seems to get out and about 
frequently.

Tensyo Star:  Yun
The spirit of Yun lives on, amidst the winds of Grassland and the trees of 
Kuput Forest.

Tenjyu Star:  Geddoe (not FC)
Thanks to Sasarai, he rejoins the SFDF.  He still can't decide about the right-
hand rune.

Tenjyu Star:  Geddoe (as FC)
He won't be Flame Champion, but he is unsure of his goal.  For now he enjoys 
being in the SFDF.

Tenson Star:  Queen (Geddoe is not FC)
Returns to her life in the Southern Frontier Defense Force.  Recently, she's 
given up vegetarianism.

Tenson Star:  Queen (Geddoe is FC)
Learns about the curse of the rune on Geddoe's right-hand.  Hopes to be of 
assistance.

Tenhei Star:  Ace
What a life!  Managing the headstrong SFDF, he can't avoid complaining.

Chisai Star:  Joker
Says fighting is difficult, but continues nonetheless.  That's the Joker for 
you!

Chisin Star:  Jacques
Plans to fabricate an even more powerful bow gun.

Teni Star:  Aila
Geddoe refuses to let her join the SFDF, but lets her accompany them as a 
trainee.

Chikatsu Star:  Duke
Heads south on a new mission, still hoping for a rematch with Geddoe.

Chimei Star:  Elaine
Her fate is bound up with Duke's but it looks like she has no plans to quit 
working as a mercenary.

Chikai Star:  Gau
Goes out on a military training tour, but often returns to Caleria to help 
Duke.

Chiri Star:  Nicolas
Heads south with Duke.  Defends him in any battle.

Chikou Star:  Watari
Once his contract is up, he disappears.

Chikyou Star:  Ayame
Disappears in pursuit of Watari.

Tenkyu Star:  Estella
Sets out on a journey to find the 109th star.
(For anyone who didn't figure it out, Estella is a pathological liar.  Have 
Kidd investigate her or put her and Chris in the bath and you'll see what I 
mean.  Naturally, Rody's testament of her beating Crowley and the idea of an 
all-male village are very likely lies)

Chikou Star:  Rody
Devotes himself to his training while traveling with Estella, but he still 
can't fly.

Chitou Star:  Barts
Returns to Iksay Village and continues tilling the fields.

Chiyou Star:  Arthur
Spends his time running around looking for headlines

Chiyu Star:  Kidd
Responds to a request to solve the kidnapping of a lady of the Black Rose 
Society in an obscure nation.

Chisei Star:  Nadir
The theater at [Budehuc] Castle sells out after the Flame Champion is rumored 
to have performed there.

Chihei Star:  Ruby
Returns to Le Buque and has lots of healthy babies.

Tensui Star:  Iku
Even as she holds off the persistent Franz, she decides she wants to live with 
him.

Tenrou Star:  Franz
Makes great effort to help Le Buque villagers win status as second-class 
citizens.

Tenkai Star:  Thomas
Aided by Salome, gains Free Trade Zone status for [Budehuc] Castle.  Still 
serves as Lord of the Castle.
(Thomas occupies the star sign held by McDohl from Suikoden I and Genkaku's son
from Suikoden II)

Chihi Star:  Sebastian
Still Thomas's assistant, he's devoted to [Budehuc] Castle's accounting.  
Constantly worries.

Tentai Star:  Cecile
As Captain of the Guard, she and her three subordinates (including Thomas) keep 
the peace in [Budehuc] Castle.

Tenman Star:  Juan
As the population of [Budehuc] Castle increases, so do the pupils at his dojo.  
But second Master Emily does the teaching.

Chiken Star:  Piccolo
He boasts to the people of the castle that he's a great wizard who can show 
them how to win the War of the Champions.
(Kidd's profile states that Piccolo claims to be 1 of 3 pupils of Crowley)

Chizen Star:  Martha
The population of [Budehuc] Castle increases, and commerce flourishes.  She is 
always smiling.

Chison Star:  Muto
A busy warehouse keeper, he mistakenly hands over the wrong goods often.

Chisui Star:  Eike
Heads the Silent Reading Society.  Sometimes holds meetings in a deep basement 
of the castle.

Chima Star:  Koroku
Everybody's doing fine.

Chiraku Star:  Nei
Goes back to traveling, free as the breeze with Toppo and Shabon.

Chian Star:  Toppo
Protects Nei and Shabon.  Dreams of owning a small theater.

Shiyu Star:  Shabon
Not sure if she wants to pursue a career as a wandering minstrel or as a Kenpo 
master.

Chihi Star:  Kenji
Opens a gymnastics school at [Budehuc] Castle and gains popularity with the 
kids.
(I was hoping he'd say, "It's true, it's true" at some point in the game)

Chiman Star:  Wan Fu
Sets off on a voyage to avenge a friend.

Chiretsu Star:  Goro
Loses to his dad in a Bath Match.  He then goes off to find materials with 
which to hold a new bath.

Chisyu Star:  Billy
Melville gets hold of him and takes him back to Vinay Del Zexay.

Chisatsu Star:  Kathy
Still running the ranch for [Budehuc] Castle.  Recently, she's holding horse 
races.

Chizaku Star:  Guillaume
Can't stand working as an appraiser, either.  That figures!

Tenken Star:  Melville
Returns to Vinay Del Zexay with his father.

Tenzai Star:  Alanis
The war having ended, she goes north with her family, hoping to fulfill her 
promise to Melville and Elliot someday.

Tenpai Star:  Elliot
His ambition to become a treasure hunter, like Melville's father, is opposed by 
his own father.

Chifuku Star:  Apple
When the biography of her teacher is done and Caesar is gone, she opens a 
school in her hometown.

Tenki Star:  Caesar Silverberg
Painfully aware of Albert's superior talent, he sets off on a voyage to see the 
world.

Chikai Star:  Albert Silverberg
It is said he serves bravely in Harmonia's army, but is also a strategist for a 
great power on another continent.  Truth?

Tenan Star:  Edge
To defeat a foe sought by the Star Dragon Sword, he goes on a voyage to the 
south.

Chido Star:  Landis
Whereabouts unknown.

Chikei Star:  Sanae Yamamoto
Finishes her military training prior to getting married.  Returns to [Dunan].

Chitatsu Star:  Viki
At the victory banquet, she announces she'll teleport everyone back to their 
hometowns.  She and her guests teleport.

Chisaku Star:  Viki
Viki teleports all over, chasing Elder Viki and others.

Chikou Star:  Hortez VII
Sets off by ship from Vinay Del Zexay to open a shop in Holy Harmonia.

Chiketsu Star:  Jeane
Returns to Brass Castle, resuming her career as a Rune Sage.

Chijyu Star:  Tuta
Goes with Hallec to his village, where they help many residents.

Chirei Star:  Mio
Accompanies Tuta to Hallec's village.  Wanting to help Tuta, she begins to 
study medicine.

Chiaku Star:  Emily
Becomes the Second Master at Juan's dojo.  Never neglects her own daily 
training regimen.
(Emily is most likely the daughter of Ronnie Bell from Suikoden I)

Chikei Star:  Belle
Sets off on a journey with Gadget Z in order to become a great Gadget Master.

Chisyun Star:  Gadget Z
Aims to power up while traveling with Belle as her attendant.

Chibi Star:  Futch
Having rejoined the Dragon Knights, he's studying to get 3rd degree ranking.
(Futch was an apprentice, 9th class, in Suikoden I)

Chii Star:  Sharon
She attends the new Dragon Knights ceremony and gets a Golden Dragon.
(Sharon's mom, Milia from Suikoden I, is noted as the Commander of the Dragon 
Knights by Futch and Kidd.  What happened to Joshua?)

Chikyou Star:  Bright
Loves flying around in space with Futch, but Futch is bothered by his constant 
pestering.

Tengou Star:  Sasarai
Returns to Holy Harmonia and serves as Bishop, but suffers from existential 
angst.

Tenkou Star:  Dios
Sasarai's Chief of Staff.  Supports him publicly and behind the scenes.

Tensoku Star:  Nash (Chris is not FC)
By the time the fighting ends, he is nowhere to be seen.

Tensoku Star:  Nash (Chris is FC)
The eve after the final battle, he appears in Chris's room and announces that 
he is leaving.
(According to Blue Moon at suikosource.com, it's highly likely Nash's "missus"
is Sierra from Suikoden 2.  Nash is the main character of the two Suikogaiden
games released in Japan but never in the US)

Tenyu Star:  Yuber
There's a rumor he's been seen amongst the deformed creatures that sprung forth 
from the crumbled ruins.

Chizen Star:  Sarah (all 108 stars recruited, only Jimba and Yun are dead)
Caressing her one and only love, the only one who understands her, she is 
lonely but content.

Chizen Star:  Sarah (108 stars list incomplete and/or 3 or more stars are dead)
Nobody's heard any news of her since she was left among the crumbling ruins.

Tenkan Star:  Luc (all 108 stars recruited, only Jimba and Yun are dead)
Luc's name vanishes from the histories of Harmonia, but he is remembered as one 
who defied Fate.

Tenkan Star:  Luc (108 stars list incomplete and/or 3 or more stars are dead)
The battle is just one of many forgotten battles in Grassland.  No one knows
where he is.


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10.  Bath Conversations

10a.  Introduction

Once you recruit Goro, you can take your characters into the bath at Lake
Castle and hear some rather interesting conversations.  I checked Ryvius' FAQ
to get the last 3 conversations listed in this section, so credit and thanks to
him for that information.  If you need to know how to recruit Goro or what all
the possible bath conversations are, I refer you to his excellent FAQ available
here at gamefaqs.  Enjoy!

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10b.  Estella and Chris

Chris:  "Estella."
Estella:  "Mm.  Yes?"
Chris:  "Umm, those particular clothes...is there any special reason you're
wearing them?"
Estella:  "Ah.  By wearing them, my magical powers are increased!"
Chris:  "Really?"
Estella:  "No, I'm joking!  A-ha ha ha!"
Chris:  "..."
Estella:  "Hey, shouldn't you be wearing something lighter?"
Chris:  "Huh?"
Estella:  "Well, magicologically speaking, armor with a little exposure is
better than the heavy armor you're wearing.  Particularly, the chestal area,
where your magic power is stored, shouldn't be so constricted."
Chris:  "I didn't know that..."
Estella:  "Gotcha again!  Ha ha ha!"
Chris:  "..."
Estella:  "Sorry, sorry!  Don't get angry!  I'll make it up to you by telling
you a big secret."
Chris:  "She's doing it again..."
Estella:  "Fubar is really...a griffon suit!"
Chris:  "..."
Estella:  "And there are two Karaya soliders inside of him!"
Chris:  "..."
Estella:  "Those poor soldiers only get 350 potch a day.  It's really hard work
and no one wants to do it but it's an order from the chief, so they have no
choice!"
Chris:  "..."
Estella:  "The real Fubar actually died ten years ago, but the chief couldn't
bring herself to tell Hugo.  You see, from the moment he was born, Hugo has
been by Fubar's side.  After some thought, the late Fubar's skin was used to
make the griffon suit."
Chris:  "..."
Estella:  "The 'Kuueen!' sound is really ventriloquism by Sgt. Joe.  It seems
the structure of the throat of the griffon and the duck are similar.  So as to
not cause Hugo grief, Sgt. Joe underwent grueling special training."
Chris:  "So does that mean Fubar understands human speech?"
Estella:  "You're so gullible!  Ha ha ha!"
Chris:  "That's enough!"
Estella:  "You know, you're very amusing!  You really should try to relax more!
Well, I must be off now.  See ya!"
Chris:  "I'm such an idiot..."

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10c.  Bazba, Shiba, and Dupa

Shiba:  "Since I came here, humans have been constantly getting my name wrong."
Bazba:  "These days, Master Juan has taken to calling me Shiba.  Imagine that!
What could he be looking at?  Shiba, of all things..."
Shiba:  "What do you mean by 'of all things,' Bazba?"
Bazba:  "No, no ulterior meanings.  Forgive me if I offended you."
Dupa:  "It's hard for us to tell humans apart, so it's probably hard for them
to distinguish between us.  It's a delicate issue."
Shiba:  "Yes, that's definitely a problem!  The other day, I was about to call
out to Master Nash, but after looking closer it turned out to be Master Hallec.
Those two look far too much alike!"
Bazba:  "Ah, I also get those two mixed up.  Also, Lady Lilly and Lady Luce.
They're twins, aren't they?"
Shiba:  "They look alike, yes.  But if you look closely, you can tell them
apart.  You must take more care!"
Bazba:  "But despite that, being mistaken for Shiba is pretty..."
Dupa:  "How far are you going to push it?"

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10d.  Futch, Franz, and Fred

Franz:  "You crossed two mountain ranges in a single night?  And...you're proud
of yourself?  The Dragon Knights are nothing to be afraid of..."
Futch:  "Huh?  Excuse me, did I upset you in some way?"
Franz:  "Well, I guess dragons are certainly faster, but can dragons fly
straight up?  I don't think so."
Futch:  "Ha ha ha!  Vertical ascents would admittedly be disastrous, but as far
as survival at high altitudes goes, nothing beats a dragon!  Dragons can live
at altitudes where Ruby would be gasping for air!"
Fred:  "Hold on, my Rico is pretty talented.  She can cook, you know.  I'm sure
Ruby and Bright can't cook.  Am I right?"
Franz:  "How's his rotational ability?  Can a sluggish dragon keep up with
Ruby's maneuverability?"
Futch:  "Well, its turn isn't as tight as an insect's, but a dragon does have a
thick shell, as well as a high offensive capability."
Fred:  "Rico is really agile.  She does the washing and cleaning before I wake
up.  What do you think of that?  Does your Ruby or Bright do laundry or
cleaning?"
Franz:  "Fred, could you be quiet for a moment?  Please stop comparing Rico
with Ruby."
Futch:  "And comparing Rico with Bright is kind of..."
Fred:  "What are you saying?!  Aren't you both buddy boasting?"
Futch:  "Mmm, not really...Well, it might be buddy boasting, but...it's just
that Rico is a little different..."
Franz:  "Right...Exactly what's different is tricky to say, but, well...She's
different!"
Fred:  "What do you mean?!  So you're saying that Rico is inferior to Ruby or
Bright?  Don't insult me!  Do Ruby or Bright go shopping?  Do they sew?  Do
they fix weaponry?"
Franz:  "No, no, it's just that..."
Futch:  "I understand...calm down."

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10e.  Melville, Louis, and Rody

Melville:  "Hey.  You know, there's...There's something I'd like to ask you
about."
Rody:  "What?"
Louis:  "What is it, Melville?  Why so formal?"
Melville:  "Umm, listen.  Now, this is just between us...You know how everyone
is supposed to have a 'dream person'...Do you?"
Rody:  "'Dream Person'?"
Melville:  "Mmm.  This is really only between us.  I just thought I'd ask."
Louis:  "Mmm, I have one."
Rody:  "Me, too.  I've...got one too."
Melville:  "Ah, I see.  In fact, I do too."
Louis:  "Hee hee!  Now I want to ask who it is!  Shall we say who it is,
together?"
Rody:  "No lying, okay?  It'll just be a secret between us, all right?"
Melville:  "Absolutely.  A secret between the three of us.  Ok, let's say it!"
Louis:  "One, two, three."

(All at once:)

Melville:  "Chris."
Louis:  "Lady Chris."
Rody:  "Wan Fu."

Melville:  "..."
Rody:  "Ho...Hold on a second.  No, it's not that!  I didn't mean it like that!
I meant, it'd be cool to be like him some day!"
Melville:  "I-I'll...just hop out of the bath now."

(We hear water splashing as Melville leaves)

Rody:  "Hey, I said it's not like that!  I didn't mean it like that, Melville!
I said it's not like that!"
Louis:  "..."

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10f.  Estella and Little Viki

You have to do the Chris and Estella bath event first to view this event.

Estella:  "..."
Viki:  "..."
Estella:  "Hey, Viki..."
Viki:  "Yes?"
Estella:  "Because you're such a cute girl, I'll tell you an amazing secret.
But you're not to tell it to anyone...It's such an important secret."
Viki:  "Ok, try it on me."
Estella:  "You know Hallec...it seems that he's an arachnid."
Viki:  "..."
Estella:  "He was born from an egg.  Soon he will start to molt.  He told me
himself!  It seems he was saying, 'I'll give my old molt skin to anyone who
wants it' or 'I have to fatten up before molting' or something like that...
Pretty scary, huh?  You mustn't go near Hallec before he molts!"
Viki:  "Do you make up lies like this up every day?  You're not very busy, are
you?"
Estella:  "You're pretty smart, aren't you?"
Viki:  "Well, it doesn't take a genius..."

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10g.  Ayame and Chris

Chris:  "Mmm...nice bath!"
Ayame:  "..."
Chris:  "(This is the first time I've met Ayame...I didn't think she'd be this
pretty!)"
Ayame:  "Lady Chris."
Chris:  "Y-yes?"
Ayame:  "There's soap on the tip of your nose."
Chris:  "Huh?  Oh...ah, thanks!"
Ayame:  "..."
Chris:  "..."

Chris:  "(Ayame's body...is covered in scars...)"
Ayame:  "Lady Chris."
Chris:  "Y-yes?"
Ayame:  "There's still soap on the tip of your nose."
Chris:  "So there is..."
Ayame:  "..."
Chris:  "Sorry..."
Ayame:  "..."
Chris:  "..."
Ayame:  "..."
Chris:  "..."
Ayame:  "Hee hee..."
Chris:  "(Uh...)"

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10h.  Jacques, Watari, and Toppo

Appropriately, the final words belong to these guys.

Jacques:  "..."
Watari:  "..."
Toppo:  "..."
Jacques:  "..."
Watari:  "..."
Toppo:  "..."
Jacques:  "Watari..."
Watari:  "..."
Toppo:  "..."
Jacques:  "The soap..."
Watari:  "..."
Toppo:  "..."
Jacques:  "I'll lend you mine..."
Watari:  "Thanks..."
Toppo:  "..."

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11. Play Transcripts

11a.  Introduction

Once you get Nadir and give him some scripts, you can put on plays at Lake
Castle.  There is no way in heck I am going to cover all the transcripts for
every possible combination-each play deserves its own FAQ for the sheer amount
of dialogue involved.  Instead, I'm just going to list some of my own personal
favorites.  If you never played Suikoden I and II, then the Imperial Love and
Neclord's End plays will likely make no sense to you.  Tir and Riou are the
official names for the Suikoden I and II heroes, respectively.  For the
Imperial Love play, I have corrected the McDohl McDohl grammar error.  I'm not
planning on expanding this section so please don't e-mail me with any
transcripts.  Enjoy!

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11b.  Romeo and Juliet 1

Romeo-Eike
Juliet-Martha
Nurse-Koichi
Guard 1-Landis
Guard 2-Hallec

Juliet:  "Romeo, Romeo.  Why are you Romeo?  Get rid of that name of yours, and
I'll get rid of mine."
Romeo enters:  "You're...you're not just putting me on, right?  Because if
you're bluffing, I'll...I'll..."
Juliet:  "Oh, Romeo.  What made you come here?  The orchard walls are high and
hard to climb and the place death considering who you are."
Romeo:  "...Don't try to change the subject..."
Juliet:  "If any of my relatives were to see you, they would surely kill you."
Romeo:  "I...don't really care...in fact."

Romeo leaves to hide in the bushes.  Guards 1 and 2 enter.

Guard 1:  "Heee hee he...The voices came from somewhere around here."
Juliet:  "Don't wreck my garden you lowlife thugs.  My prey has all run away
because of you."
Guard 1:  "Yuh huh huh...Lady Juliet, we heard people talking here...Might
there perhaps...be someone around should not really be here...?"
Juliet:  "That must have been just the final dying groans of my prey."
Guard 2:  "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!  I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!"

The Guards exit and Romeo re-enters.

Juliet:  "Romeo, if you stay here any longer I fear for your life.  Go back for
today."
Romeo:  "So that's how it is, eh?...Just as I suspected...that's how it is."
Nurse: "...Ruf..."
Juliet:  "Well, then, I'm off to bed." (Juliet exits)
Romeo:  "...If you come out once more, I will...I will..."
Juliet comes back:  "Oi, you in the Romeo role.  Does that mean you might like
us to really go out...privately?  You can tell me.  Don't be shy."
Romeo raises his arms:  "Ooooh, Owoooooooooow!!!!"
Juliet:  "Really, is that so?  Well then, I will sneak into your bedroom
tonight."
Nurse:  "...Ruf..."
Juliet:  "I'm looking forward to this evening."  (Juliet exits)
Romeo:  "Oow, ooooooooooooooooow!!!!!"  (Romeo exits, the set collapses)
Juliet:  "You got any complaints?"

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11c.  Imperial Love 1

Milich-Lilly
Flik-Percival
Viktor-Futch
McDohl-Thomas
Barbarosa-Big Viki
Golden Hydra-Hallec

Barbarosa:  "Um...Where are we again?"

McDohl's team enters.

Barbarosa:  "And you are um...Who?"
McDohl:  "Barbarosa, Lord!  The Toran Army has...surrounded Gregminster?
Under my command?!?"
Flik:  "Right."
Viktor:  "..."
Milich:  "Barbarosa, give up!  The Scarlet Moon Empire is dust!"
Barbarosa:  "Barbaropa?  No, wait...I'm Viki.  My specialty is teleportation.
What now?  You want me to teleport?"
Milich:  "Gee, you're right.  That Claudia person too, she liked it a lot."
Barbarosa:  "Garden?  Should I teleport to the garden?"

Barbarosa becomes the Golden Hydra.

Flik:  "The bugger is transforming!"
Viktor:  "Um..."
Golden Hydra:  "Waaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!"
McDohl:  "Yar!"
Milich:  "McDohl, get a grip!  You're shaking like a weasel!  Here it comes,
Barbarosa!"

Milich charges the Golden Hydra, knocking it out.

Golden Hydra:  "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Flik:  "Oi!  Downed with one blow?!?"
Viktor:  "Were you always like this?"
Milich:  "The Scarlet Moon Empire has been destroyed, thanks to me."

Milich starts to leave.

McDohl:  "Sir Mill Itch!  Where will you go?"
Milich:  "McDohl, what would I do in a boring dead empire like this one?  You
take care of the details.  Yours truly is going to have an afternoon tea and a
bath.  Ciao."

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11d.  William Tell 1

Wiliam Tell-Roland
Son-Jacques
Lord-Lilly
Attendant-Big Viki
Crowd-Kidd

Lord:  "What's up, Mr. Tell?  Come on, show me your hot stuff!"
Attendant:  "Huh?  What's going on?  Did that guy do something wrong?"
Lord:  "Tee hee hee.  If he misses, the people will turn on him.  Especially if
he hits the boy.  Ooh, this is fun!"
Crowd:  "William, you can do it!"
William:  "Trust your Pa.  Don't move a muscle."
Son:  "I think I'd rather be the one doing the shooting..."

William hits the apple with his arrow.

Lord:  "I'll get you for this, Tell!"

The Lord and Attendant exit.

Son:  "Aw, that was nothing."
William:  "Good you trusted your Pa."
Crowd:  "Arrest the magistrate!"

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11e.  Neclord's End

Neclord-Geddoe
Viktor-Edge
Flik-Fred
Riou-Lilly
Sierra-Nash
Narrator-Big Viki

Narrator:  "Hm?? 'Riou'???  No, I'm Viki.  The City-city...state?  What's that?
Food??"

Neclord:  "...So, I'm a Vampire..."
Riou:  "Got you now, Neclord.  You perverted swine!  I'm going to chop you up
to pieces until nothing's left of you!"

Narrator:  "A bear???  You mean Viktor??  Yeah, Viktor's a bear.  The deft
Flik???  Really???  Yeah, I knew he was a greenhorn, but...He's really that
dexterous???"

Viktor:  "Hey, come on, Neclord..."
Flik:  "Give it up.  There is no escape."
Neclord:  "...Oh."

Narrator:  "You mean the elder's Rune that Neclord held in his hand?  Sierra?
I'm Viki, not Sierra."

Sierra enters.

Sierra:  "It's been a while, eh, Neclord?  It's me, 'Old Hag Sierra'--I'm
arrogant, never keep promises and suck people's blood at any chance."
Neclord:  "..."
Sierra:  "I could attack using electricity...No.  Hear me, my Moon Rune!  Lay
this evil magic to rest...Now, you shall sleep."
Neclord:  "..."
Sierra:  "There's nothing left now to protect this one.  I leave the rest to
you, Riou!"
Riou:  "Get ready, Neclord!!!  You hideous, perverted old man!  I'm not afraid
of the likes of you anymore!"
Neclord:  "Come on...let me out of here..."
Riou:  "That's how I learned!!!"

Riou charges Neclord and knocks him out.

Viktor:  "You...you did it."
Sierra:  "Nice going."
Neclord:  "..."
Flik:  "What a cruel person you are...Don't come around here anymore..."
Riou:  "I feel much better now.  What an awful memory...Let's try and forget
it."
Viktor:  "Wow, that story's really been corrupted."

Narrator:  "Narrator??? That's a funny name.  I'm Viki.  Nice to meet you.  Me?
Narrator?  No, I told you, I'm Viki.  Is that it???  Can I go now???" (bows)

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11f.  Romeo and Juliet 2

Romeo-Wan Fu
Juliet-Sharon
Nurse-Ace
Guard 1-Ruby
Guard 2-Kogoro

Juliet:  "Romeo, Romeo.  Why must you be Romeo?  Like, get another name for
yourself, and then, like, I'll change my name, too, OK?"
Romeo enters:  "I got your drift.  Say you my goyl, and I be new baptized.  I
won't be Romeo no more."
Juliet:  "Oh, Romeo.  Why have you come?  The walls are so high and a pain to
get over--and this place is, like, so dangerous for you."
Romeo:  "I smashed through the wall with my fists."
Juliet:  "If, like, anyone in my family sees you, you are so dead."
Romeo:  "I don't fear the swords of ruffians.  Your eyes frighten me more than
such things.  Gimme a sweet look and I gots nothing to worry 'bout them foes."

Romeo leaves to hide in the bushes.  Guards 1 and 2 enter.

Guard 1:  "Bzzzz..."
Juliet:  "Don't like, wreck the garden!  Thanks to you two geniuses the birds
all flew away."
Guard 1:  "Bzzzz..."
Juliet:  "That was just me talking to, like, the birds.  Sorry."
Guard 2:  "...A-e-i-o-u!...A-e-i-o-u!"

The Guards exit and Romeo re-enters.

Juliet:  "Romeo, staying here any longer is dangerous.  Please go back..."
Romeo:  "Juliet, we were just talking.  You gotta go so soon?"
Nurse: "Madam!"
Juliet:  "Well, then, see you around." (Juliet exits)
Romeo:  "I'm 1000 times dissatisfied you're leavin' me.  If you say I be your
guy, lemme see yo face again, baby."
Juliet comes back:  "Romeo, parting's like, so sad."
Romeo raises his arms:  "Oh, Juliet.  You my goyl!"
Juliet:  "Romeo, morning's coming soon.  I wish the sun wouldn't rise.  Then we
could just, like, keep on talking like forever."
Nurse:  "Madam.  Come quickly!"
Juliet:  "Good night, Romeo."  (Juliet exits)
Romeo:  "Have a good sleep, y'hear?"  (Romeo exits)

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11g.  Imperial Love 2

Milich-Guillaume
Flik-Thomas
Viktor-Eike
McDohl-Big Viki
Barbarosa-Landis
Golden Hydra-Gadget Z

Barbarosa:  "Heee hee he.  The death of the Scarlet Moon Empire.  And the
Golden Emperor, too.  Heee hee he...Death..."

McDohl's team enters.

Barbarosa:  "Yuh huh huh...Tir McDohl.  Heee hee he...Tir McDohl."
McDohl:  "Um...Oh, yeah.  Sir Greg!  And Sir Minster!  They're surrounded by
Barbarosa!"
Flik:  "R-R-Right.  Surrounded we say."
Viktor:  "That's right."
Milich:  "Ho ho ho!  Give up, ho ho!  You have lost, ho ho!"
Barbarosa:  "Milich...Yuh huh huh...Yuh huh huh.  Look here.  Garden.  Yuh huh
huh..."
Milich:  "Ho ho ho.  But you must agree I am as radiant as the garden."
Barbarosa:  "Yuh huh huh.  This garden is...Mine!"

Barbarosa becomes the Golden Hydra.

Flik:  "Is this...illusion?  Or is he...Golden Hydra?"
Viktor:  "I wonder if anyone has a plan?"
Golden Hydra:  "Krckrckrckrckrckrck."
McDohl:  "Um...what's going on?"
Milich:  "Egads, lookit!  Barbarosa, you've changed ever so frightfully.  This
won't be easy on me, either."

Milich charges the Golden Hydra, knocking it out.

Golden Hydra:  "Ooh, I am done for."
Flik:  "Unbeliev--Golden Hydra deathstroke!"
Viktor:  "Sir Milich Oppenheimer.  Your knighthood is assured."
Milich:  "That's what I like about stage work.  If you're a hero in the script,
then a hero you shall be."

Milich starts to leave.

McDohl:  "Um...Milich?  Where are you going?  Wouldn't you rather teleport than
walk?"
Milich:  "Ho ho ho.  Naturally, I'm going for to tea.  Now if you'll pardon
me..."

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11h.  William Tell 2

Wiliam Tell-Jacques
Son-Chris
Lord-Cecile
Attendant-Landis
Crowd-Mike

Lord:  "What's wrong, William Tell?  Hurry up and show your stuff."
Attendant:  "Hee hee he...Yes, master.  He's nuts to put an apple on his own
son's head and try to shoot it off."
Lord:  "Hee hee hee.  One miss and the people's faith in him will be gone.  Get
ready for chaos!"
Crowd:  "Ha ha ha.  Go for it, William Tell!"
William:  "If I miss...I'll be sorry."
Son:  "What did I do to deserve this?"

William hits the apple with his arrow.

Lord:  "Curses.  Run!"

The Lord and Attendant exit.

Son:  "I'm never doing that again."
William:  "Whew, that was lucky."
Crowd:  "Ha ha ha.  The good guys win.  Ha ha ha."

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11i.  The Little Match Girl

Match Girl-Estella
Phantom Grandma-Lilly
Passer By-Peggi
Child-Hortez VII
Narrator-Geddoe

Narrator:  "...It is the last day of the year."

Passer By and Child enter.

Girl:  "Won't you buy some matches?"
Child:  "Oh, this child is wearing strange clothes."
Passer By:  "Out of my way!!!  I'm in a rush!!!!"

Narrator:  "..."

Girl:  "It is cold.  I'll light a match."

Girl lights a single match and turns to see a vision.

Girl:  "Oh, Grandma?"
Phantom Grandma:  "Why do you have to call me Grandma!!!!"
Girl:  "Grandma, you know, it seems I'm going to go there, too."
Phantom Grandma:  "Would you stop treating me like an old woman!!!!"
Girl:  "Isn't there any way for you to take me to heaven with you?  It is
written in the script."

The Girl approaches the Phantom Grandma and they both vanish.

Narrator:  "...The girl has died."

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11j.  He Cried Wolf

Shepherd Boy-Kidd
Wolf-Nash
Sheep-Sgt. Joe
Villager-Landis
Narrator-Big Viki

Narrator:  "Huh?  Wolf boy?!  A boy that's a wolf?  Nobody around here like
that.  Oh, you mean Cobold?"

Sheep enters and Wolf chases if off the stage.

Sheep:  "Qua...Ooops, I mean Baa..."
Wolf:  "In case you didn't get it, I'm playing the wolf.  Grr-Growl!"

Enter Shepherd Boy.

Boy:  "Run everybody!  The bad guys are coming!"

Enter Villager.

Villager:  "Yuh huh huh...Here wolf.  Yuh huh huh.  Where's that wolf?"

Villager exits.

Boy:  "I mean it!  The bad guys!"

Sheep and Wolf re-enter and re-exit.

Sheep:  "Baa. Baa."
Wolf:  "I'll never take this role again."

Narrator:  "What?  But Cobold's not a wolf..."

Boy:  "You dirty rat!  I'll remember this."

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11k.  Romeo and Juliet 3

Romeo-Hortez VII
Juliet-Ayame
Nurse-Mel
Guard 1-Bright
Guard 2-Landis

Juliet:  "Romeo, Romeo.  Why are you Romeo?"
Romeo enters:  "Hmph.  So that's Juliet.  I guess I am bequeathed one further
wife."
Juliet:  "Ummm, Romeo.  Why did you come here?  It's no big deal for a ninja,
but for a normal person the orchard walls are high and hard to climb.  And this
is a place of death for you considering who you are."
Romeo:  "Do thy walls concern thee?  I will construct for thee new, stronger
walls if thou dost so desire."
Juliet:  "If any of my kinsmen find you, they'll surely kill you.  The are all
skilled warriors."
Romeo:  "Interesting.  Thou may call thy kin.  I shall give them a taste of my
power."

Romeo leaves to hide in the bushes.  Guards 1 and 2 enter.

Guard 1:  "Kuueee!!!"
Juliet:  "Don't just creep about like that.  You made all the birds fly away."
Guard 1:  "Kuueee!!!"
Juliet:  "That was just me talking to the birds.  It's a false alarm."
Guard 2:  "Heee hee he...Sending me off...What are you up to..."

The Guards exit and Romeo re-enters.

Juliet:  "Romeo, it seems dangerous for you to stay here any longer.  Go home."
Romeo:  "Thou hast yet been granted permission to depart."
Nurse: "Madam!"
Juliet:  "C-Ya." (Juliet exits)
Romeo:  "I feel a thousand times the worse to observe thy departure.  Return to
thy balcony, Juliet."
Juliet comes back:  "I pretend to leave, and then...SURPRISE ATTACK!"
Romeo raises his arms:  "Hmph.  There is merit to leading a modest life."
Juliet:  "Romeo, it will soon be morning...I wish the sun would never rise."
Nurse:  "Madam.  Come quickly!"
Juliet:  "Well, then.  See you around, Romeo."  (Juliet exits)
Romeo:  "No.  Thou art not yet permitted to depart."  (Romeo exits)


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12.  Acknowledgements

-Thanks to Konami for making this great, albeit flawed, sequel

-Thanks to Blue Moon for info. on Nash and to his web site, suikosource.com,
 for info. on the location of Fury runes

-Thanks to Ryvius, whose FAQ I consulted for the final 3 bath conversations

-Thanks to Tatooine Ozzel and Raikochan from the gamefaqs message board for
info. related to the Saint Loa Knights farewell and Futch/Viki meeting Luc,
respectively

-Thanks to Abraxas for info. related to the Prosperity Set

-Thanks to Nanami, DelRaycowboy, timmyshoop, Joshua009, Vivamagic, LuBuCaoCao,
EvilSpike, Jonezy424, SternAndMond, Kasumi, and Bonaparte for permitting me to
use their e-mails for the story/analysis section

-Thanks to Mr KO and Emperor Magus from the gamefaqs board for correcting info.
related to the unwinnable battles section

-Thanks to nihon for info. on gametz.com

-Thanks to everyone on the gamefaqs message board for showing your patience in
 helping out others and for all the thoughtful discussion.  This goes out
 especially to (in no particular order) Tatooine Ozzel, Mi Heng, dabodufus,
 demon knight x, Raikochan, Skye Anchorz, Starvenus, Abraxas, Mochan, Emperor
 Magus, TexasAndroid, VermilionX, and everyone else who I may have not seen in
 a while and neglected to mention.  Hope to see you all for Suikoden IV

-Thanks to CJayC and gamefaqs for hosting this document

-Thanks to everyone else who has e-mailed me with their thoughtful viewpoints


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13.  Version History

+Version .60 (11/26/02)
 -Started FAQ, added Hugo/Chris sections, introductory information, and 108
  stars of destiny roll call

+Version .95 (11/27/02)
 -Added Geddoe's Story and Endings section
 -Added Luc's POV introduction and story
 -Did some format changes with Hugo and Chris' Endings sections, correcting
  bracketed sections that were not universal for all 3 characters and adding
  some separation between the dialogues to make it easier to read

+Version 1.0 (11/30/02)
 -Added ending picture description for Luc story
 -Added statement for Luc story if Chris is FC
 -Added 108 stars of destiny endings for Luc & Sarah if 108 stars are not all
  recruited or if one of them died in a strategy battle
 -Verified duplicate star signs on Tablet of Stars
 -Added Nash information from Blue Moon at suikosource.com
 -Corrected Chris scene with Saint Loa Knights from Ch. 1 to Ch.2 courtesy of
  info. by Tatooine Ozzel on gamefaqs message board
 -Did some further format changes to Hugo and Chris' Endings section to help
  make it more readable

+Version 1.05 (12/02/02)
 -Added Character/Story analyses section, filled in Karaya Raid analysis
 -Made further grammar and format corrections, including correcting Saint Loa
  Knights scene placement in section 2

+Version 1.15 (12/04/02)
 -Added analyses info. for Luc and co. and the three main characters
 -Added Geddoe chapter 2 and Futch/Viki content for "hidden scenes" section
  (credit Raikochan for Futch/Viki content)
 -Re-ordered sections/table of contents to make things more readable and easier
  to find
 -Added Bath section

+Version 1.4 (12/06/02)
 -Added all transcripts/descriptions for "Hidden" scenes section
 -Added Q&A for Rincar since a handful of people e-mailed me about it

+Version 1.5 (12/07/02)
 -Added five more bath conversations, including three that were acquired by
  consulting Ryvius' FAQ
 -Added some further details for Hugo recruiting Belle
 -Added line separators to make "Hidden" scenes section more readable
 -Added a final credits/acknowledgements list as this is the "complete" version
  of this FAQ
 -Changed my e-mail contact to reflect my new ISP

+Version 1.7 (12/14/02)
 -Added some Q&A's to section 2 due to multiple e-mails on the topics
 -Added comments in analyses section from outside contributors
 -Added "hidden" scene with Dios and Sasarai
 -Corrected Luc comment about Hugo in Luc's story section
 -Changed Spoiler Warning at beginning to include all Suikodens since content
  on the other 2 games have been added
 -Changed contact info. to reflect credit by e-mail name only since an outside
  contributor on my Kidd FAQ requested their domain name be deleted

+Version 1.71 (12/26/02)
 -Corrected info. in unwinnable battles section
 -Updated play order question
 -Added some paragraph breaks in section 2

+Version 1.9 (1/7/03)
 -Added 2 new "hidden" scenes and more detailed content for the scene where
  Chris receives Jimba's memento and what happens if Lucia beats Chris in their
  duel
 -Added proper credit to suikosource.com for Fury runes location, something I
  absentmindedly forgot in the last version
 -Added info. from nihon concerning gametz.com as another source for obtaining
  Suikoden I and II
 -Added 10 play transcripts in a new section
 -Added (belated) thanks to gamefaqs message board, CJayC, and gamefaqs to
  acknowledgements section