Suikoden Stars of Destiny Correlation Guide. (C) 2004-6, Kenneth Whitten, all rights reserved. Version 2.0, January 21, 2006. After completing the third installation in the magnificently epic Suikoden series, I had the notion of lining up all the cast lists side by side, and seeing what I got. I was completely unsurprised to learn that any recurring characters kept their same slots, but what was surprising was the correlations I found between different characters in the same slot. (For example, the chief strategist on each game takes Star #3, Tenki, in their respective game.) Having seen no previous work on these correlations here on GameFAQs, I decided to be uncharacteristically industrious and made my own. Herein is the result of my labors. This guide can be found either on my webpage: http://www.geocities.com/kewhitte/starsfaq.txt or under the Suikoden III and Suikoden IV segments of GameFAQs: http://www.gamefaqs.com/ (Due to the nature of the material within (see Spoiler Notice, below), I will assume those reading this are familiar with the series. As such, I will put it on no bord older than Suikoden III's, the board it was originally posted on.) ** SPOILER NOTICE: These contain full Star of Destiny lists for ALL FOUR Suikoden Games. If you have not completed one or more of the games, some of the names may spoil future events in the game. This is most true in the third game, wherein many people unexpectedly become Stars. If you do not wish to be spoiled about such things, I suggest you back out of this page now. Proceeding means you have either beaten all four games or simply do not care. I am not to be held responsible for any disregard paid to this warning. ** GUIDE NOTICE: This guide serves only to illustrate the various correlations between the four games' casts. For help on how to obtain any particular Star, there are guides devoted to the topic on the appropriate game's entry in GameFAQs. (Actually, as I wrote it, it evolved a bit. Yes, it shows the correlations between the Stars of Destiny on the four games (see first two main sections), but I have also decided to add lists for Recurring Stars and for Related Stars. You can basically think of this guide as an illustration of the amazing continuity connections between the characters of the games. Lastly, I decided to tack on a list of all True Runes known at the moment. It has nothing to do with the rest of the guide, but I am quite interested in the evolving tale of the 27 True Runes, so added this as a bonus.) TABLE OF CONTENTS: ------------------ (Entries marked with an asterisk (*) instead of a dash (-) are the meat and potatoes of this Guide - the actual game-related info.) - Introduction and Notices - Table of Contents (You are here.) - Revision History and List of Abbreviations * Comparative Stars of Destiny List * List of Star Correlations * List of Recurring Stars * List of Star Relations * Quick Reference Guide to All Known True Runes (bonus section) - Credits and Copyright Revision History: 0.8) Pre-submission draft. 1.0) Includes Comparative Stars List, list of correlations, and list of recurring and related Stars that I have discerned. First submitted version, having been double-checked by Jeno'Qilka, a fellow Suikofan. 1.1) In what may be the largest update to this guide until Suikoden IV comes out, this version includes a plethora of corrections submitted from the message boards for the Suikoden games on GameFAQs, as well as a couple sent via email. 1.11) Very minor - Anti-Spoiler notice and note regarding the True Holy Rune added and a few lingering spelling errors corrected; nothing more. 2.0) Finally, the Suikoden IV update! Updated the Anti-Spoiler notice (Suiko5 is coming soon!), and added all entries regarding the fourth game. NOTICE: LIST OF IMPORTANT ABBREVIATIONS: I will be using these abbreviations a LOT. Their meaning should be obvious, but for the sake of clarity, I am including this index. <Hero 1> = Hero of the first Suikoden, son of Teo McDohl. <Hero 2> = Hero of the second Suikoden, adopted son of Genkaku. <Hero 4> = Hero of the fourth Suikoden, initially a Gaien Knight trainee. S1, Suiko1 = Suikoden 1 S2, Suiko2 = Suikoden 2 S3, Suiko3 = Suikoden 3 S4, Suiko4 = Suikoden 4 *** ANTI-SPOILER NOTICE: SUIKODEN TACTICS, SUIKODEN V *** At the time of this update, the Suikoden Tactics has been out for some time, and Suikoden V is not far off. However, I would appreciate it if you all refrained from posting any submissions related to these games until such time as I have played them and made a proper update of my own, bringing this guide to Version 3.0. I DO have Tactics, but am currently backlogged on games. ANY SUBMISSIONS OF ST OR S5 INFORMATION BEFORE V3.0 IS RELEASED WILL BE DISMISSED. This notice will be removed in the 3.0 update, and all submissions will then be welcome. I simply do not like having the games I play spoiled. Thank you for your consideration. *** END NOTICE *** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ COMPARATIVE STARS OF DESTINY LIST: A listing of each game's roster of Stars, placed side by side. Any parenthetical notations will be explained below the list. No. Star of Destiny Suikoden 1 Suikoden 2 Suikoden 3 Suikoden 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Tenkai Star <Hero 1> <Hero 2> Thomas <Hero 4> 2. Tengou Star Lepant Ridley Sasarai Lino En Kuldes 3. Tenki Star Mathiu Shu Caesar Elenor 4. Tenkai Star Luc Luc Luc(6) Ted(6) 5. Tenyu Star Humphrey Humphrey Dupa Tal 6. Tenyu Star Kasim Hauser Yuber Izak 7. Tenmou Star Kwanda Kiba Shiba Axel 8. Teni Star Pesmerga Pesmerga Lucia Selma 9. Tenei Star Gremio Sierra Yuiri Aldo 10. Tenki Star Warren Teresa Salome Reinbach 11. Tenfu Star Kun To Nina Jimba Chiepoo 12. Tenman Star Cleo Sigfried(1) Juan Paula 13. Tenko Star Viktor Viktor Sgt. Joe Kika 14. Tensyo Star Valeria Tomo(2) Hugo(b) Keneth 15. Tenritsu Star Griffith Fitcher Bazba Ramada 16. Tensyo Star Clive Clive Yun Travis 17. Tenan Star Flik Flik Edge Snowe 18. Tenyu Star Camille Tsai Yumi Rachel 19. Tenku Star Kreutz Jess Fubar Helga 20. Tensoku Star Stallion Stallion Nash Cedric 21. Teni Star Kage Georg Prime Aila Keen 22. Tensatsu Star Fu Su Lu Hanna Hallec(7) Gau(b) 23. Tenbi Star Kirkis Killey Chris Gretchen 24. Tenkyu Star Milich Anita Estella Konrad 25. Tentai Star Pahn Feather(1) Cecile Jewel 26. Tenjyu Star Sonya Nanami Geddoe Katarina 27. Tenken Star Anji Rina Melville Lo Seng 28. Tenhei Star Tai Ho Tai Ho Ace Shiramine 29. Tenzai Star Kanak Eilie Alanis Lo Fong 30. Tenson Star Yam Koo Yam Koo Queen Ugetsu 31. Tenpai Star Leonardo Bolgan Elliot Lo Hak 32. Tenrou Star Hix Hix Franz Rakgi 33. Tensui Star Tengaar Tengaar Iku Rikie 34. Tenbou Star Varkas Freed Y Scott Jango 35. Tenkoku Star Sydonia Yoshino Ernie Brec 36. Tenkou Star Eileen Chaco Dios Flare 37. Chikai Star Leon Klaus Albert Tanya 38. Chisatsu Star Georges Gilbert(3) Mua(3) Jeremy 39. Chiyu Star Ivanov Tetsu Dominic Gareth 40. Chiketsu Star Jeane Jeane Jeane Jeane 41. Chiyu Star Eikei Wakaba Shabon Lilon 42. Chii Star Maximilian Maximilian Fred Gary 43. Chiei Star Sancho Genshu Rico Ema 44. Chiki Star Grenseal Camus Percival Sigurd 45. Chimou Star Alen Miklotov Borus Hervey 46. Chibun Star Tesla Jude Twaikin Micky 47. Chisei Star Jabba Lebrante Nadir Nabokov 48. Chikatsu Star Lorelai Lorelai Duke Frederica 49. Chitou Star Blackman Tony Barts Mao 50. Chikyou Star Joshua Gijimu Bright Bartholomew 51. Chian Star Morgan Rikimaru Toppo Helmut 52. Chiziku Star Mose Gantetsu(4) Beecham(4) Pablo 53. Chikai Star Esmeralda Simone Gau Bang 54. Chisa Star Melodye Connell Reed Liloon 55. Chiyu Star Chapman Hans Samus Lilen 56. Chirei Star Liukan Huan Mio Yu 57. Chijyu Star Fukien Tuta Tuta Carrie 58. Chibi Star Futch Futch Futch Dario 59. Chikyu Star Kasumi Kasumi(2) Lilly Millay 60. Chibaku Star Maas Badeaux Jefferson(8)Reinhold 61. Chizen Star Crowley Mazus Sarah(b) Warlock 62. Chikou Star Fuma Mondo Watari Akaghi 63. Chikyou Star Moose Sasuke Ayame Mizuki 64. Chihi Star Meese Leona Sebastian Ornan 65. Chisou Star Sergei Adlai Shizu Manu 66. Chikou Star Kimberly Raura Hortez VII Rene 67. Chimei Star Sheena Sheena Elaine Ameria 68. Chisin Star Kessler Kinnison Jacques Nico 69. Chitai Star Marco Shiro Joker Wendel 70. Chiman Star Gen Amada Wan Fu Tov 71. Chisui Star Hugo Emilia Eike Phil 72. Chisyu Star Hellion Zamza Leo Eugene 73. Chiin Star Mina Karen Roland Mitsuba 74. Chii Star Milia Lo Wen Sharon Lilan 75. Chiri Star Kamandol Tenkou Nicolas Nataly 76. Chisyun Star Juppo Gadget Gadget Z Nao 77. Chiraku Star Kasios Annallee Nei Etienne 78. Chitatsu Star Viki Viki Viki Viki 79. Chisoku Star Rubi Koyu Viki(b) Kate 80. Chichin Star Vincent Vincent Augustine Charlemagne 81. Chikei Star Meg Meg Belle Rita 82. Chima Star Taggart Mukumuku Koroku Oleg 83. Chiyou Star Giovanni Marlowe Arthur Perrault 84. Chiyu Star Quincy Richmond Kidd Deborah 85. Chifuku Star Apple Apple Apple Agnes 86. Chihi Star Kai L.C. Chan Kenji Trishtan 87. Chiku Star Lotte Millie Mel Noah 88. Chiko Star Mace Tessai Peggi Adrienne 89. Chizen Star Onil Taki Martha Setsu 90. Chitan Star Kuromimi Gengen Wilder Nalkul 91. Chikaku Star Gon Gabocha Rhett Champo 92. Chisyu Star Antonio Yuzu Louis Funghi 93. Chizou Star Lester Hai Yo Mamie Pecola 94. Chihei Star Kirke Kahn Ruby Maxine 95. Chison Star Rock Barbara Muto Basil 96. Chido Star Ledon Sid Landis Igor 97. Chisatsu Star Sylvina Shin Kathy Lilin 98. Chiaku Star Ronnie Bell Oulan Emily Karl 99. Chisyu Star Gaspar Shilo Billy Gunter 100. Chisu Star Window Alex Mike Desmond 101. Chiin Star Marie Hilda Luce Louise 102. Chikei Star Zen Bob Sanae Y Kevin 103. Chisou Star Sarah Ayda Anne Pam 104. Chiretsu Star Sansuke Pico Goro Taisuke 105. Chiken Star Qlon Alberto Piccolo Nalleo 106. Chimou Star Templeton Templeton(5)Rody(5) Haruto 107. Chizoku Star Krin Hoi Guillaume Oskar 108. Chikou Star Chandler Gordon Gordon(b) Chadli Stars marked with (b) share the name of other stars yet are not the same person. 1) Sigfried, Feather, and Abizboah, the Monster Stars of Suikoden 2, have interchangeable slots. 2) If you pick Valeria instead of Kasumi, Tomo takes Kasumi's Star while Valeria gets Tomo's. 3) Called Chiretsu Star in Suikoden II and III. 4) Called Chijiku Star in Suikoden II and III. 5) Called Chikou Star in Suikoden II and III. 6) Called Tenkan Star in Suikoden III and IV. 7) Called Tensatu in Suikoden III. 8) Called Chibou in Suikoden III. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LIST OF STAR CORRELATIONS: NOTE: I will omit any cases where the only correlation between the stars is that the same person occupies that slot in two or all three games. I will, however, include cases where the star has the same person in two games, a different in the third, and that different character has some correlation to the one who holds that star in the other two games. (Perhaps in a future version, I shall compile a section listing the recurring Stars.) 1) Tenkai Star: <Hero 1>, <Hero 2>, Thomas, <Hero4> Chief Star of the game. (Although I use this definition very loosely in the third game, for the true hero will be either star 14, 23, or 26.) Also can be construed as the gatherer of the Stars, in which Thomas fits the role as well as the others. 2) Tengou Star: Lepant, Ridley, Sasarai, Lino En Kuldes In all four games, this character is a skilled general or leader of some sort. 3) Tenki Star: Mathiu, Shu, Caesar, Elenor Chief Strategist of the game. 27) Tenken Star: Anji, Rina, Melville, Lo Seng 29) Tenzai Star: Kanak, Eilie, Alanis, Lo Fong 31) Tenpai Star: Leonardo, Bolgan, Elliot, Lo Hak In each game, these three stars are always together. A trio of pirates in S1, a circus trio in S2, child knights in S3, and some sort of con artists in S4. 32) Tenrou Star, Hix, Hix, Franz, Rakgi 33) Tensui Star, Tengaar, Tengaar, Iku, Rikie As Hix and Tengaar are a couple in S1 and S2, Franz and Iku are a couple in S3. (While not a couple in Suiko4, they are still paired up, as son and mother.) 37) Chikai Star, Leon, Klaus, Albert, Tanya As Star #3 is the chief strategist in each game, Star #37 is the secondary strategist in games 1-3; S4's Tanya is a librarian, but aspires to learn of strategy from Elenor. In fact, in each Star's case, the S1 and S3 entries are from the Silverberg family of strategists. (Interesting note: This is the first of the Chi- stars.) 41) Chiyu Star: Eikei, Wakaba, Shabon, Lilon (Games 1-3) Nothing major, but all three are barefisted fighters in the game. The latter two also have in common being young girls who are learning martial arts (although Eikei certainly is not!). 42) Chii Star: Maximilian, Maximilian, Fred, Gary 43) Chiei Star: Sancho, Genshu, Rico, Ema (Games 1, 3, and 4) Star 42 is the leader of the Knights of Maximilian (Max himself in the first two games, his grandson in the third, and although the order did not exist, Gary held the same ideals in 4), and the following star is his squire in Suikodens 1 and 3 is his squire; in 4, Ema is Gary's wife. 44) Chiki Star: Grenseal, Camus, Percival, Sigurd 45) Chimou Star: Alen, Miklotov, Borus, Hervey In each game, a pairing of warriors who have a Unite Attack. Alen and Grenseal served Teo McDohl before joining, Camus and Miklotov were from the Knightdom of Matilda, Percival and Borus are among the Six Mighty Knights of Zexen, and Sigurd and Hervey are pirates in Kika's crew. 47) Chisei Star: Jabba, Lebrante, Nadir, Nabokov (Games 1, 2, and 4) In the indicated Suikodens, this is the Star held by the Castle's Appraiser. (S3's appraiser, Guillaume, is Star 107.) 49) Chitou Star: Blackman, Tony, Barts, Mao Castle gardener, although I use the term loosely in Mushroom-growing Mao's case. 50) Chikyou Star: Joshua, Gijimu, Bright, Bartholomew (Games 1 and 3 only) A loose correlation, but a correlation nonetheless. Joshua is the Captain of the Dragon Knights, and Bright is a Dragon ridden by a Dragon Knight. 53) Chikai Star: Esmeralda, Simone, Gau, Bang (Games 1 and 2 only) In the first two Suikodens, Esmeralda and Simone are second only to Vincent de Boule in vanity. 54) Chisa Star: Melodye, Connell, Reed, Liloon (Games 1 and 2 only) Melodye and Connel allow you to change your sound settings (a function not present in the third our fourth games). 55) Chiyu Star: Chapman, Hans, Samus, Lilen (Games 1 and 2 only) Castle Armorer. (S3's armorer, Dominic, holds Star 39; Chadli in S4 is #108, selling both items and armor.) 56) Chirei Star: Liukan, Huan, Mio, Yu 57) Chijyu Star: Fukien, Tuta, Tuta, Carrie (Games 2-4) The Castle healer(s). In games 1 and 2, Star 56 is the primary healer, while S2's Star 57 is secondary, but the positioning had to be switched in the third game because the primary healer was a recurring character, and thus held the same star he held before. In Suiko4, it reverts to #56 primary, 57 second. 61) Chizen Star: Crowley, Mazus, Sarah(b), Warlock The Mage Star, and a very interesting correlation. The correlation between Crowley and Mazus is obvious, of course, but I find it interesting that Sarah took the spot in game 3. (When Rody and Estella join the group, Rody claims Estella is the world's greatest mage, and has even bested Crowley once. Obviously, since Estella is Star 24, and Sarah, Luc's sorceress, is here, such claims should be taken with a grain of salt.) 62) Chikou Star: Fuma, Mondo, Watari, Akaghi 63) Chikyou Star: Moose, Sasuke, Ayame, Mizuki (Games 2-4) Ninjas, ninjas everywhere. While S1 has two other ninjas, and S2 has (potentially) one other, those are not star correlatives. These are. Further, Mondo and Sasuke join together, as do Akaghi and Mizuki. And while Watari and Ayame don't, they are known to come from the same place. 65) Chisou Star: Sergei, Adlai, Shizu, Manu Someone has to run the elevator. These four fit the bill. Also, Shizu is a student of Adlai. 66) Chikou Star: Kimberly, Raura, Hortez VII, Rene (Games 2 and 3 only) Raura and Hortez have so very much in common. Both are scrollmakers, and neither has a sense of direction. (In fact, when I finally had recruited Hortez, I found myself entirely unsurprised to see him as a scrollmaker.) While not part of the correlation, Rene's placement here amuses me, as she deals with maps in S4. 68) Chisin Star: Kessler, Kinnison, Jacques, Nico (Games 2 and 3 only) Kinnison and Jacques are a lot alike, really. They're both quiet bowmen with a fodness for nature. (I forget if Kessler wields a bow or not, but he does not strike me as either quiet or nature-loving.) 70) Chiman Star: Gen, Amada, Wan Fu, Tov (Games 1, 2, and 4) When a sailor is needed, Gen and Amada become joiners. Gen helps you brave the rapids (with Kamandol's modified ship) between you and famous physician Liukan, while Amada is the one to recruit to get to Lakewest. And Tov might not be a sailor, but he does make ships, putting him in the same industry. 71) Chisui Star: Hugo, Emilia, Eike, Phil (Games 1-3) Castle librarian. (Position is Star 37 in S4.) 73) Chiin Star: Mina, Karen, Roland, Mitsuba (Games 1 and 2 only) Castle dancer. 74) Chii Star: Milia, Lo Wen, Sharon, Lilan (Games 1 and 3 only) More Dragon Knights, although Sharon, Milia's daughter, is merely in training for such a position. 76) Chisyun Star: Juppo, Gadget, Gadget Z, Nao (Games 1-3) 81) Chikei Star: Meg, Meg, Belle, Rita (Games 1-3) OK, yes, I am taking this a bit out of order, but these two Stars go together. For Star 76, we have master trickster Juppo, his creation, and an updated version of said creation. Star 81 has Juppo's niece in the first two games, before she gives up the slot to her daughter in the third, and the two of them are journeyman tricksters. (While not part of this correlation, I must admit that Rita's exuberant personality fits in with Meg and Belle.) 77) Chiraku Star: Kasios, Annallee, Nei, Etienne (Games 1-3) Castle singer. 80) Chichin Star: Vincent, Vincent, Augustine, Charlemagne As mentioned in the entry for Star 53, Vincent is the most narcissistic person in the first two Suikodens. And Augustine takes over that role in the third game. And while Reinbach III (Star 10) takes it in 4, Charlemagne comes a close second. 82) Chima Star: Taggart, Mukumuku, Koroku, Oleg (Games 2 and 3 only) The squirrel Mukumuku and the dog Koroku hold a correlation because each is the only Star of Destiny member of a five (squirrel/dog) group which has a Unite Attack. Each is also the first of their group to join. 84) Chiyu Star: Quincy, Richmond, Kidd, Deborah (Games 2-4) Castle detective. Also, both are confident in their abilities to the point of arrogance. Makes one wonder if they're actually related, but such is never proven. And while Deborah is no detective, this fortune-teller provides recruitment hints as the detectives did in their games. 86) Chihi Star: Kai, L.C. Chan, Kenji, Trishtan (Games 1-3) All three are in professions of martial arts trainers of some sort. Kai taught <Hero 1> the way of the staff, Long Chan-Chan is Wakaba's teacher, and although Kenji has no student at the time of S3, he does say he is a trainer. 87) Chiku Star: Lotte, Millie, Mel, Noah (Games 1-3) A loose correlation, but each is a teenage girl with a pet. (Lotte's cat, Millie's hedgehog, and Mel treats her puppet as a pet as well.) 88) Chiko Star: Mace, Tessai, Peggi, Adrienne Castle Blacksmith. (While Mace is only one of five blacksmiths in the first Suikoden, he *is* the master blacksmith among them, being the only one who can reach the 16th level of a weapon.) 89) Chizen Star: Onil, Taki, Martha, Setsu (Games 1 and 2 only) Castle gossipmonger. 90) Chitan Star: Kuromimi, Gengen, Wilder, Nalkul 91) Chikaku Star: Gon, Gabocha, Rhett, Champo A pair of nonhumans in each case. Kuromimi and Gon are Kobolds, as are Gengen and Gabocha. Wilder and Rhett are of the Duck Clan of Grassland, and Nalkul and Champo are Nay-Kobolds. In each case, the first outranks the second. 92) Chisyu Star: Antonio, Yuzu, Louis, Funghi (Games 1 and 4) 93) Chizou Star: Lester, Hai Yo, Mamie, Pecola (Games 1-3) Castle cooks (in 1, Antonio ranks over Lester). 95) Chison Star: Rock, Barbara, Muto, Basil (Games 1-3) Castle warehouse keeper. 96) Chido Star: Ledon, Sid, Landis, Igor (Games 2 and 3 only) Sid and Landis are both members of the Winged Horde, and both are uncannily morbid. I am half convinced they are one and the same person, but have little to offer in the way of proof, except that the last three letters of Landis, when reversed, spell Sid. 98) Chiaku Star: Ronnie Bell, Oulan, Emily, Karl (S1-3) Strong female fighters, almost to the point of Amazonian. (Well, there is no 'almost' in Bell's case.) Also all (including Karl) use fist/claw weaponry. Lastly, Emily is the giant woman's daughter. (Credit to Emperor Magus for confirming Ronnie Bell's weapon.) 99) Chisyu Star: Gaspar, Shilo, Billy, Gunter The only gamblers in each game to share a star. Gaspar, Shilo, and Gunter in fact, play the same gambling game. 101) Chiin Star: Marie, Hilda, Luce, Louise (Games 1, 2, and 4) Castle innkeepers in their respective games. (S3's innkeeper is Sebastian, Star 64.) It is possible to correlate Luce with the others, however, as all three have a maternal personality. 104) Chiretsu Star: Sansuke, Pico, Goro, Taisuke (Games 1, 3, and 4) Castle bathmakers. (S2's Tetsu is Star 39.) 107) Chizoku Star: Krin, Hoi, Guillaume, Oskar (Games 1-3) All of these three are petty thieves. 108) Chikou Star: Chandler, Gordon, Gordon(b), Chadli (Games 1, 3, and 4) Castle Item Shopkeeeper. S2's Gordon is actually manager of their Trade Center, while their item store is run by Star 100, Alex. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LIST OF RECURRING STARS: In this section, I include any Stars who reappear from one game to another, as well as Stars who share blood relations (which may or may not hold the same Star Slot). While this has rather little to do with Star Correlations (see previous section), it is a nice illustration of the continuity of the Suikoden series. (Note: Although many of you probably know this, the timeline of the Suikodens is Suiko4, 150 year interim, Suiko1, three year interim, Suiko2, fifteen year interim, Suiko3. What this means is that you can actually find characters in one game who are descendants of of characters from the prior games - or who were children in them.) Recurring Stars The arrogant Wind Magician Luc (Star 4, Tenkai; S1-S3) Humphrey, a swordsman of few words (Star 5, Tenyu; S1+S2) Pesmerga, carrying his vendetta against the demon, Yuber (Star 8, Teni; S1+S2) Viktor, rugged warrior type (Star 13, Tenko; S1+S2) Imperial swordswoman Valeria (Star 14, Tensyo; S1+S2) (*) Incredibly cool Howling Voice Guild Gunner, Clive (Star 16, Tensyo; S1+S2) "Blue Lightning" Flik (Star 17, Tenan; S1+S2) Fastest Elf Ever, Stallion (Star 20, Tensoku; S1+S2) Whimsical sailor and free spirit, Tai Ho (Star 28, Tenhei; S1+S2) And caught up by his brother's latest whims, Yam Koo (Star 30, Tenson; S1+S2) Hix, a warrior with a severe lack of valor (Star 32, Tenrou; S1+S2) Tengaar, with enough valor for Hix and herself both (Star 33, Tensui; S1+S2) Enigmatic runemistress, Jeane (Star 40, Chiketsu; all games) Maximilian, idealist crusader in search of a cause to follow (Star 42, Chii; S1+S2) Aloof treasure-hunter, Lorelai (Star 48, Chikatsu; S1+S2) Tuta, doctor in training (Star 57, Chijyu; S2+S3) Dragon Knight Futch (Star 58, Chibi; S1-S3) Rokakku ninja Kasumi (Star 59, Chikyu; S1+S2) (*) Lepant's slacker son, Sheena (Star 67. Chimei; S1+S2) Ditzy teleportress Viki (Star 78, Chitatsu; all games) Vain narcissist par excellance, Vincent de Boule (Star 80, Chichin; S1+S2) Journeyman trickster, Meg (Star 81, Chikei; S1+S2) Mathiu Silverberg's most devoted student, Apple (Star 85, Chifuku; S1-S3) Perfectionist cartographer Templeton (Star 106, Chimou; S1+S2) (*) - In Suikoden 2, you must choose Valeria OR Kasumi. Whoever you choose will take their own Star. When you recruit Tomo later on, she takes the star of the person you do not choose. Further, there are characters who hold Non-Star roles yet recur as well. And many which are Stars in one game only to not be Stars when they recur. Here is a list of all known Other Recurring Characters. (NOTE: I will not include characters merely MENTIONED in games as recurring, or this list would be far too long. The amount of times characters from previous games are mentioned perhaps surpasses the amount of recurring characters both on the list above this paragraph and the list below.) First and foremost, the seer Leknaat, overseer of Destiny, who is in all four games yet never holds a Star of Destiny. (With the advent of Suikoden IV, only her, Jeane and Viki span the series now.) Next is the Star Dragon Sword, bane of vampires, Night Rune incarnate. Also spans the first three games, but never in a Star Capacity. (However, he is wielded by Stars in each game. In the first two, Viktor on Star 13; in S3, Edge on Star 17.) Last of the recurring characters to span the first three games is the demonic Black Knight, Yuber. He is a star (#6) only in the third game, though. <Hero 1>, first Star of the first Suikoden, can make an appearance in his own subplot in the second game, provided you have loaded in S1 end-save data. Lepant, (Star 2, S1) reappears in the second game as President of the Toran Republic. Sasarai (Star 2, S3) first appeared in the second game, aiding the Highland forces under Luca Blight (and later Jowy Blight), fifteen years before becoming a major participant in the third game. Lucia (Star 8, S3) also appeared in the second game, assisting Jowy Blight and the Kingdom of Highland, before returning to the Grasslands, where we find her in S3. Beecham (Star 52, S3) was one of her soldiers, although too minor to even give a portrait to, and was mistranslated as Beechum. (Credit to Gunloc for this submission.) Gremio (Star 9, S1) reappears in the McDohl subplot (mentioned above), but ONLY if your S1 end-save had collected all 108 Stars of Destiny in time. Cleo (Star 12, S1) makes a cameo appearance in Gregminster in S2, tending to the McDohl household. Kage (Star 21, S1) makes a brief and enigmatic appearance in a scene early in S2, covertly dealing with Jowy Atreides. Pahn (Star 25, S1) makes a cameo appearance in Gregminster, but only upon completion of the McDohl subplot. Varkas (Star 34, S1) retires from bandit life to guard the path between the City-States of Jowston and the Toran Republic in S2. Leon Silverberg (Star 37, S1), the only Silverberg to span multiple games, is found aiding Luca, then Jowy, as chief strategist for the Highland Kingdom. Grenseal (Star 44, S1) returns in S2 as Vice-Commander of the guard at Gregminster Castle. Alen (Star 45, S1) is the other Vice-Commander. Tesla (Star 46, S1) returns in S2 for a brief appearance in the meeting between <Hero 2> and President Lepant. Liukan (Star 56, S1) plays a brief part in S2's McDohl subplot. Lilly (Star 59, S3), before being an obnoxious and spoiled brat, was simply the daughter of Gustav of Tinto in S2, where she spent some time as a hostage of Neclord. Lotte (Star 87, S1) makes a cameo appearance on the streets of Gregminster. Looking for her cat, as always. Antonio (Star 92, S1) plays the role of one of the Rival Chefs in Hai Yo's minigame in S2. Marie (Star 101, S1) reprises her role as innkeeper in a cameo in Gregminster in S2. Sarah (Star 103, S1) provides our last Gregmisnter cameo in S2, in an upstairs room in the inn. She gives us a Cyclone Rune, too! Not a Star in either game, but Han Zo, leader of the Ninjas' hidden village of Rokakku, makes brief appearances in both S1 and S2. And while you thought you offed him in the first game, Neclord (also not a star in either game) reprises his role of evil vampire in S2. And a fact little known to laymen (due to being revealed in the Suikogaiden games released only in Japan) is that Nash (Star 20, S3) had a couple of minor, uncredited appearances in S2. One such is that he was the guard to the supply tent during <Hero 2> and Jowy's infiltration mission, and another is that he was present in the scene where Jowy was brought before Luca Blight after said mission. (Credit to Gunloc for this submission.) Lester (Star 93, S1) is a rival cook in the cook-offs Hai Yo faces in S2. (Again, credit goes to Gunloc.) And Ted (Star 4, S4), a bearer of the Soul Eater, is the only new name on this list for the S4 revision. In S1, he was not a Star, but he became one for S4. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LIST OF STAR RELATIONS: Finally, I will proceed to the list of Star Relations. Most of these will be blood relations, although I will add in a few cases of close non-blood relations between characters in different games. (As their Star is largely irrelevant in this section, I shall omit including Star Numbers in these entries.) <Hero 1> McDohl, leader of the Toran Liberation Army, is the son of Teo McDohl, one of the Five Generals of the Scarlet Moon Empire. <Hero 2>, who goes on to lead the Jowston Alliance's armies, is the adopted son of Jowston's old hero, Genkaku. Also, Nanami is Genkaku's adopted daughter, and <Hero 2>'s adopted sister. Lepant, who will become the president of the Toran Republic, has a wife, Eileen, and a son, Sheena. Odessa Silverberg, who led the Toran Liberation Army in its beginnings, had a brother, Mathiu, and their uncle is Leon. Leon has two known grandsons, Caesar and his elder brother Albert. All Silverbergs are known as strategists except for Odessa. (Also, Shu and Apple were trained by Mathiu, which can be construed as a relation of sorts.) (Credit to Blue Moon on Leon's relation to Odessa and Mathiu, and to reminding me that Odessa is never said to be learned in strategy.) And long before we hear of any of them, Elenor Silverberg was in on the family business as well, and at one time had her own pupil, Graham Cray. The Harmonian mages, Luc and Sasarai, are brothers to each other. While I will not mention specifics, they can also be said to be kin to Hikusaak, the leader of Harmonia. Lucia, Clan Chief of the Karaya, is the mother of Hugo, one of the heroes in S3. The Karayan known as Jimba, formerly Wyatt Lightfellow of Zexen, has a daughter in Chris Lifghtfellow. Tomo is the daughter of Tsai "of the Divine Spear". Ronnie Bell from S1 is the mother of S3's Emily. The father is speculated to be the blacksmith Mose, but this is only a rumor, albeit a prevalent one. (Credit to Blue Moon for pointing out it is only rumor.) The elves Kirkis and Sylvina are a couple. So are Hix and Tengaar from Warriors' Village. Ace from S3 once served as a mercenary for Gilbert from S2. Rina and Eilie of the circus troupe are sisters, and Bolgan has more or less been adopted by them after they helped him in an incident not in the game series proper. (Credit to Blue Moon for the correction on Bolgan's relation.) Tai Ho and Yam Koo are, for lack of a better term, "oath brothers" or "blood brothers", although this is mistranslated in the game as brothers-in-law (learned from Richmond). Richmond also states that Kimberly (from S1) is Tai Ho's wife by S2, and there appears to be nothing inaccurate here. (Credit to Blue Moon for the correction on the translation.) Freed Y (stands for Yamamoto) is married to Yoshino, and they have a daughter, Sanae Y. Franz and Iku in S3 are yet another couple waiting to happen. Sid claims to be Chaco's "big brother", but is most likely his personal bully instead. General Kiba of Highland is the father of the young strategist Klaus. Fred, grandson of the knight Maximilian, carries on his grandfather's crusades, a tradition initially started by Gary, who traveled with his wife Ema before they settled down in the Scarlet Moon Empire. Further, Fred's squire, Rico, is the daughter of Max's own squire, Sancho. (Credit to Emperor Magus for this submission.) Futch and Bright are bound as Dragon Knight and Dragon. Lilly is the daughter of Gustav, president of Tinto. The Great Wizard Crowley (S1) has a number of associations. He has a rival in Mazus (S2), Piccolo (S3) is said to be a student of his, and Estella (S3) claims she once defeated him (although the veracity of that claim is dubious at best). Dragon Knight Commander Milia is the mother of Sharon, aspiring Dragon Knight. Gijimu, Lo Wen, and Koyu, the Mt. Lampdragon Bandits, are oath-siblings. (Credit to Blue Moon for this clarification.) Master Trickster Juppo has a niece, Meg, who in turn comes to have a daughter, Belle. Meg's Gadget could be said to be the ancestor of Belle's Gadget Z. In what may very well be paradoxical, Young Viki (S3) is in fact be the same person as Older Viki (present in all games). Apparently, her teleportation skills can cross time as well as space. (Credit to Emperor Magus for confirming this.) Billy and Melville are father and son in S3. Further, Kathy is Billy's daughter, a fact she is unaware of. (Credit to Gunloc for the info on Kathy.) Luce and Lulu are mother and son in S3. Hilda and Alex are wife and husband in S2. They also have a son, Pete, but he was too minor to even give a character portrait to. The bathmaker, Goro (S3), is the son of Tetsu, who filled the same role in S2, and he considers his father to be his greatest rival. King Agares Blight, of Highland, has a son, the hideously evil Luca, who himself has a half-sister, the Princess Jillia, with the mother (Sara Blight, dead at the time of the game) as the common parent - she is not Agares's. Further, Jillia comes to marry Jowy Atreides, bringing him into the Blight Royal Family, and Jowy eventually comes to care for a young girl by the name of Pilika, orphaned by a Highland raid, although he leaves her with Jillia when he sends them to safety late in the war. (Credit to BlueMoon for correcting Jillia's relation, providing Sara's name, and for clarifying Pilika's part in this entry.) Sana, elder of Chisha Village in S3, is the widow of the Grasslands hero known as the Flame Champion, who never appears in the game but is pivotal to its story nonetheless. Mamie, the cook in S3, is the daughter of Bashok, one of Hai Yo's rival chefs in S2. However, an unfortunate mistranslation in S2 called her Mei Mei. (Credit to Gunloc for this submission.) Sid appears to be related to Landis, but the nature of the relation is undisclosed. (Credit to Emperor Magus for this; I had previously speculated them to be one and the same.) Also thanks to Emperor Magus, I receive information that Raura and Hortez are apparently related, but just how is not certain. They certainly have a similar lack of direction sense, to be sure. Although a blood relation is unlikely here, there is definitely a connection between Yuber and Pesmerga. Matt620 of GameFAQs speculates that they are incarnations of Chaos and Order (called Dharma in the game) respectively. While not related, Viktor (S1/2) and Edge (S3) have an association worth mentioning. Between S2 and S3, Flik, Viktor, and Edge apparently fought together to stop a vampire that had decimated Edge's village. This is how Edge came to have the Star Dragon Sword in the third game; Viktor gave it to him after the event. (Credit to highwind5001 for this information.) Aside from a new Silverberg, Suikoden IV throws in several new families, starting with Lino En Kuldes, the King of Obel, who has a daughter, Flare, and a lost son, which by all evidence appears to be Hero4 himself. His late wife is also in one scene in the game, for she was a previous bearer of the Rune of Punishment. Speaking of that Rune, another of its bearers is survived by a wife, Rikie, and a son, Rakgi. Lastly, Graham Cray had a son - again, in the game only during a Rune Scene - who bore the rune. Schtolteheim Reinbach III is the son of Schtolteheim Reinbach II, both aristocrats of Middleport. More on the aristocracy: Snowe Vingerhut, Hero4's old friend, has his father, Vincent, in the game. While not directly related, Kika and the pirate Brandeau have a common acquaintance - Kika's late husband, Edgar. Through an optional scene involving Keen's confessional, we learn that instructor Katerina is the daughter of Commander Glen of the Knights of Gaien, a fact he never knew. Lo Seng, Lo Fong, and Lo Hak, who tried to take you for all you were worth at the Mordo bathhouse, are siblings. Colton and Helmut, both of Kooluk, are father and son. While Dario has raised Nalleo as his son, it is learned that the boy's mother is Louise, and the father is NOT Dario, although we are not told who it is. And the cooks, Kevin and Pam, are husband and wife. Lastly, one NON-relation that is not readily apparent: Leknaat and Windy, the holders of the Gate Rune, are from the same tribe, and although they call each other sisters, that is merely a custom of said tribe. (Credit to Blue Moon for this correction.) These are all I can think of at the moment, but I will also add a couple of relations I cannot find verification for: Given his youth, it is theoretically possible that Kidd is the son of Richmond. Why else have such a young person fill the job? (Also, their demeanor is remarkably similar in certain ways.) However, there is no information to support this. I have also heard that there is evidence in the obscure Suikogaiden games connecting Nash (S3) to Sierra (S2) - apparently, she is the 'missus' of whom he refers to Chris. And in Suiko4, the mermaids Lilan, Lilen, Lilin, Lilon, and Liloon call each other sisters, but I do not know if this is mere kinship, or if they are actually kin. If any know the truth of these links - or falsehood, accompanied by the correct answer - do let me know. Email address is at the bottom of this guide. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ QUICK REFERENCE GUIDE TO ALL KNOWN TRUE RUNES What does this have to do with my Star Correlation Guide? Absolutely nothing! But the 27 True Runes are perhaps the one binding force in this grand epic, and I am rather interested in following the progress of these Runes. It is my theory that they will all be present should this series ever draw to a finale. That said, their inclusion in this Guide is for no better reason than I want it to be. ** SPOILER NOTICE: Whereas the above sections provided occasional spoilers (especially as regards Suiko3), what follows is practically a SpoilerFest due to the inextricable ties between the 27 True Runes and the plot of the Suikodens. If you have not played all three games to completion, I recommend you stop reading right now. (All that follows this section are the credits, contact info and copyright notice anyway.) NOTE: I have recieved several emails already mentioning the True Holy Rune borne by Stallion in the first two games, and Cedric in the fourth. THIS IS NOT A TRUE RUNE. Although I once thought as you, I have since learned it is a translation error, and that the name of the Rune, if properly translated, would have been "Godspeed Rune." Also, the "Zexen Rune" referred to in a scene early in Suiko3 is another misnomer - they refer to the "Crest of Zexen", their heraldic emblem. Entries (which will be in no particular order) will read as follows: Rune Name (Current Bearer): Known History. Soul Eater Rune (<Hero 1> McDohl): Given to a young boy named Ted 300 years before Suiko1 by the elder of his village during an attack by Windy, Yuber, and Neclord. He has borne the Rune for three centuries when he befriended the son of Teo McDohl, a general in the Scarlet Moon Empire. Upon it being discovered that he bore the Rune, he passed it to <Hero 1> to keep it out of Windy's grasp. Gate Rune (Leknaat (front), Windy (back)): I know little about the two facets of the Gate Rune. The seer Leknaat, who holds the front half of the Rune, is an enigmatic woman who oversees various moments of Destiny. The sorceress Windy, who holds the back half, is an ambitious woman who desired to bear two True Runes and was last seen plummeting from the gardens atop Gregminster Castle. Whether the bearer of a True Rune could survive such a fall is unknown, as is what would happen to the Rune if she didn't. Night Rune (Star Dragon Sword): The sentient blade calling itself the Star Dragon Sword, bane of vampires, is the actual Night Rune, transformed into a sword incarnation. Currently borne by a swordsman called Edge, it previously belonged, on two occasions, to Viktor, who held a fierce grudge against the vampire caleld Neclord. Sovereign Rune (Dragon King Sword): Unlike the Night Rune, the Sovereign Rune did not transform into the sword it is found on, but was merely attached to it in the same manner a rune would attach to a person. The last known owner of the Dragon King Sword was Emperor Barbarossa, last ruler of the Scarlet Moon Empire. The sword's current whereabouts are unknown. Dragon Rune (Joshua): All I really know of the Dragon Rune is that Joshua has worn it for centuries before relinquishing it to its current owner, Milia, and that the bearer of this Rune commands the Dragon Knights, for this Rune is the force that allows Dragons to exist in the world of the Suikoden series. (Credit to BlindTelescope for the transference in ownership.) The Rune of Beginning (<Hero 2>, Jowy Atreides): I will divide this entry into two parts, one for each component of the Rune. * Bright Shield Rune (<Hero 2>): Originally one half of the Rune of Beginning, the Rune responsible for the creation of the world. Thirty years before the events of Suiko2 it resided on the hand of Genkaku, who fought as a hero for the City-States of Jowston. He and his friend, Han, sealed their Runes within a shrine in Toto Village, where they resided until Genkaku's adopted son and Jowy Atreides inherited them. The Bright Shield Rune was taken up by <Hero 2>, the adopted son of Genkaku. * Black Sword Rune (Jowy Atreides): The other half of the Rune of Beginning. Borne by Han Cunningham when he led the forces of Highland against his friend and the Jowston Alliance of City-States. After the war, he sealed the Rune away with his friend's, where it lay until Jowy Atreides inherited it three decades later. Beast Rune (unknown): This malevolent Rune was given to the Kingdom of Highland by the Holy Kingdom of Harmonia some time in the past. During the rule of Luca Blight, the mad king desired to unleash its power by slaughtering the population of an entire city. The Rune itself was embedded in the floor of his castle's throne room, where its incarnation was brought forth by Leon Silverberg to provide one last obstacle for <Hero 2>'s army in winning their war against Highland. After the battle, its whereabouts became unknown. (Credit to BlindTelescope for the info that it is no longer in the throne room.) Blue Moon Rune (Sierra): Once belonging to the inhabitants of the Blue Moon Village (a clan of reclusive vampires), it was stolen by the corrupt and malevolent Neclord, who used its power to aid his bloodthirsty pursuits. During the events of Suikoden 2, it was reclaimed by Sierra, the elder of the Blue Moon Village, in the process of the Neclord's final defeat. (Credit to Gunloc for correcting the name of this Rune, previously listed here as Moon Rune.) Circle Rune (Hikusaak): Its name is invoked in Suiko2 during the wedding of Jillia Blight and Jowy Atreides. And in Suiko3, Sasarai invokes its name when investing Luc with the title of Bishop. It is worn by Hikusaak, the leader of Harmonia, and as near as I can tell, has been for some time. It represents order and conformity, and as such is fitting for such an empire as Harmonia. (Credit to BlindTelescope for that last.) True Wind Rune (Luc): One of the Five Elemental Runes, this has been borne by Luc, Leknaat's apprentice, for 30 years. To say more would invoke spoilers that even someone who has completed Suikoden 3 might not know, for much of the tale is told only to those who have obtained all 108 Stars of Destiny. All I will say is that it is the central aspect of what I shall call "Luc's Plot" when I need to refer to it in entries for following Runes. True Fire Rune (Hugo): Borne fifty years prior to Suiko3 by a man who called himself the Flame Champion and led the Six Clans of Grassland to repel an invasion by the Holy Kindom of Harmonia, this Rune has passed the intervening decades in a secret chamber in a cavern near the Chisha Clan's village. During the events of Suiko3, three would-be heroes came to this location, and one of them walked away as the successor to the True Fire Rune. (While Chris or Geddoe could be chosen, I chose Hugo, and am using him here because the other two are more plot-related to two other Runes.) It was briefly separated from Hugo and stored in a True Rune Crystal as part of Luc's Plot, but retrieved with the others in the course of defusing that plot. (Matt620 confirms that Hugo is the official choice for Successor.) True Lightning Rune (Geddoe): Borne by Geddoe as far back at least as far back as the time of the Flame Champion, whom Geddoe fought along the side of. He wielded its power again aiding Hugo, but lost the Rune to a True Rune Crystal as part of Luc's Plot. Like the True Fire Rune, Geddoe reclaimed True Lightning in the climactic sequence of Suiko3. (NOTE: If you choose Geddoe to inherit the True Fire Rune, he will give Hugo his True Lightning Rune that he may claim it.) True Water Rune (Chris Lightfellow): The third Rune at the Flame Champion's disposal, this was borne by Wyatt Lightfellow during that time. Like the Flame Champion, Wyatt chose to seal away the Rune after it was no longer needed. He sealed it in Cyndar Ruins near to the Lizard Clan's Great Hollow, and assumed a new identity as Jimba of the Karaya Clan. During the events of Suiko3, Luc attempted to claim the True Water Rune as part of his Plot, but was stopped by Jimba, who released the Rune's Power to drive Luc off. However, Jimba had suffered grievous injury in the combat, and bequeathed the Rune to the daughter he had when he was Wyatt, Chris Lightfellow, before dying. Chris then lost the Rune to another of Luc's True Rune Crystals, but joined with the others in reclaiming the Elemental Runes. (NOTE: If you choose Chris to inherit the True Fire Rune, Jimba will give the True Water Rune to Hugo.) True Earth Rune (Sasarai): Luc's brother, Sasarai, bore the True Rune all his life, as his brother did. His was the first Rune Luc stored in a True Rune Crystal as part of Luc's Plot. Later, Sasarai joined forces with Hugo, Geddoe, and Chris (who were his enemies at first) in order to reclaim his Rune and disrupt the Plot. The Eightfold Rune (Yuber): In actuality, I know not if this is even the Rune's proper name. It is only the most commonly used name I hear it referred to on GameFAQs. I also know very little about the Rune, other than that the struggle between Yuber and Pesmerga seems to center on it. BlindTelescope from GameFAQs presents an interesting theory regarding the Eightfold Rune: "I believe the Eightfold Rune is split between Yuber and Pesmerga, just as the Rune of Beginning is split between Riou and Jowy. Konami said that the conflict between Yuber and Pesmerga will last until the end of the world. I think that Yuber contains the chaos side, while Pesmerga the order side of the Eightfold. That would explain their respective personalities, and why they must continue to fight." The Rune of Change (???): Little is known of this Rune. I know that the Leader of the Cyndar (called Sindar in S2) is said to bear a "cursed rune" on his forehead. (Excerpt from an Old Book in S2.) I have learned that this rune is the reason there are so many Cyndar Ruins, because it forced the Cyndar to be a nomadic people. (Credit to BlindTelescope for that tidbit.) The Rune of Punishment (<Hero 4>): With a history as dark as that of the Soul Eater, this Rune, governing Forgiveness and Atonement, consumes the life of the bearer itself. As such, no bearer seems to last for very long. The game lists an impressive string of Runebearers - no less than eight. Beginning with the bearer who secluded himself so that the Rune would not be passed on, it was then taken up by the Queen of Obel some 15 years before the game. Since then, it was borne by Rakgi's father (Rikie's husband), Graham Cray, Cray's son, the pirate Brandeau, Commander Glen of Razril, and ultimately the hero of the game, who may hold it still for all I know, or may have perished, causing it to continue its dark legacy. This is seventeen True Runes, or nearly 2/3 of the set. I know my count said this in v1.11, but I miscounted the Rune of Beginning as its two component parts. Assuming I am not forgetting any, there should be ten more Runes left to discover. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you feel that this guide is mistaken or missing something, send additions, revisions, or corrections to <firstname.lastname@example.org>. Please keep in mind that this guide covers only correlations between the three games' Stars of Destiny and relations between Stars when suggesting additions. If your suggestion does not fall within the scope of this guide, I will reserve the right not to include it. If your addition, correction, or revision does find its way in, you will be credited when next I update this guide. NOTE: I will accept proof of correlations or relations between characters in the three games from any source considered canonical, including the obscure Suikogaiden games and the mangas based in theSuikoden universe. However, I will not include relations or recurrences of characters outside the series. An illustration of this policy: I will not list Nash under Recurring Characters, because the only primary game he is in is 3 (even though he is in at least one of the Suikogaiden games). However, I will accept proof of his connection to Sierra, even though that proof lies in the gaidens - both characters involved are in the primary series. The reason for this policy is that most people outside of Japan are, like myself, not likely familiar - perhaps not even aware - of these other titles, so they would not know of the people in question. However, to make this guide as complete as possible in showing continuity, I do acept proofs from these sources. Credits: Initial credit goes to myself, Kenneth Whitten, for authoring it, and to Konami, for making some of the few RPGs that truly deserve the label of 'epic', the Suikoden series. Credits also extend to Jeno'Qilka for giving this guide a once-over to make sure I didn't miss too much. He is responsible for the inclusion of the correlations for Stars 2, 41, 68, as well as the relation entry for Goro and Tetsu, and some information regarding the Dragon Rune. And now, the credits for all submitted entries and clarifications made since the initial submission. Gunloc (on GameFAQs) corrected the name of the Blue Moon Rune, and provided information regarding Nash, Lester, and Beecham (recurring stars), Mamie and Kathy (Related Stars), and informed me that the term Zexen Rune was a mistranslation (this last was not credited in the guide proper since I removed the entry entirely, leaving no place to put credit). Blue Moon (on GameFAQs) earns a great deal of credit for his many corrections and submissions. He has corrected Leon's relation to Mathiu and Odessa, Odessa's not being a strategist, the fact that Mose is not confirmed as Emily's father, and the lack of blood relation for Bolgan (to Eilie and Rina), Yam Koo (to Tai Ho), the Lampdragon bandits, and Windy (to Leknaat). He has also corrected Jillia's and Pilika's place in my entry for the Blight family, and supplied the term "True Rune Crystals" for what I had previously called runetraps in the descriptions of the True Elemental Runes. BlindTelescope (on GameFAQs) supplied the transition in bearer of the Dragon Rune, information on the Rune of Change and the Circle Rune, and a theory regarding the Eightfold Rune. He also supplied the information that the current whereabouts of the Beast and Sovereign Runes is currently unknown. Emperor Magus (on GameFAQs) corrected me regarding Landis/Sid, and supplied relations for Rico/Sancho and Raura Hortez, as well as confirmed that Ronnie Bell uses fist-type weapons. He also confirmed that Older Viki and Younger Viki are the same person, stating their ability to teleport through time. Matt620 (on GameFAQs) supplied the relation between Yuber and Pesmerga. He also confirmed that Hugo is the `official' Flame Champion Successor. highwind5001 (on GameFAQs) provided the circumstances that led to Edge's acquisition of the Star Dragon Sword. (C) 2004-6, Kenneth Whitten, all rights reserved. P.S. Keep the above line in mind should you ever wish to use this guide. If you wish to use it, all you need do is follow the universal FAQ/Guide courtesies of keeping the content unaltered and remembering to credit me for authoring it. P.P.S. I will know if you don't.