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    Owner Mode NFL Logo Glitch FAQ by ElasTic RealiTy

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                              + WITH RELOCATION WALKTHROUGH
                        + WITH OWNER MODE OFF SEASON WALKTHROUGH
    
                       Madden NFL 2004 Owner mode logo glitch FAQ
                                       VERSION 3.0
                          For Playstation 2 (tm), GameCube (tm)
                                      and X box (tm)
                             submitted on August 29th, 2003
                             by ElasTic RealiTy  (Greg Hall)
                             email @ aries_seven@hotmail.com
    
    
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                                 Disclaimer / Legal Mumbo
    
    
    
    This FAQ was created for personal use only. All trademarks and copyrights
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    copyright 2003 Greg Hall
    
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                                    Introduction/About
    
    This FAQ is to expose various glitches and cheats in owner mode, with most of
    the FAQ space going towards the Logo Glitch.
    
    The NFL Logo glitch allows users to relocate their team and keep or change
    their respective NFL Logo.
    
    Some NFL logos do not work properly using this glitch. I have included a
    section below that contains what happens to every team logo when you use this
    Logo Glitch FAQ. I also included recommendations on what is best to use for
    every team. (usually what looks the best)
    
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                                          Credit
    
    I give credit to Flash72 and exoin for exposing the NFL Logo glitch. This find
    is priceless. It makes the game so much more valuable. Thank you both.
    
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    Table of Contents
    
    PART I - OWNER MODE NFL LOGO GLITCH
    w/ relocation & off season owner mode walkthrough
    
    1. Be In Owner Mode
    2. Off Season Owner Mode
    3. Relocating
    4. Relocation Main Menu
    5. Team By Team Breakdown (including recommendations)
    
    
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    <><><><><><><><><><><><>PART I - OWNER MODE NFL LOGO GLITCH<><><><><><><><><><><>
    <><><><><><><><>w/ relocation & off season owner mode walkthrough<><><><><><><><>
    
    
    1. Be In Owner Mode
    
    a) In order to move your team to a different city, and keep a NFL logo, you must
    be in OWNER MODE and relocate.
    
    b) After you complete season 1, right after the Pro Bowl, you will be prompted
    to go to off season owner mode. Scroll to YES, and hit the (X) button to
    advance to off season owner mode.
    
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    2. Off Season Owner Mode
    
    a) Off season owner mode menu
    OFF SEASON MENU
    STAFFING
    SET PRICES
    STADIUM
    INFORMATION
    MY MADDEN
    
    b) The first thing to do is go under MY MADDEN, and save your franchise.
    
    c) Go to INFORMATION, and peak at your owner rating located at the bottom of
    the INFORMATION menu. Ratings range from expert to very poor.
    
    d) Now go to STAFFING.
    STAFFING MENU
    SIGN COACH
    COACHING STAFF
    TRAINING STAFF
    COACH PROGRESSION
    CHANGE OWNERS
    
    Go to SIGN COACH first, check out your coaching needs. If you need to sign a
    specific coach, it will be highlighted in red. If you wish to promote a coach
    instead of hiring, or rehiring another coach, then go to COACHING STAFF.
    
    HEAD COACH TIP: Defense oriented = Kiffin, Offense oriented = Kubiak
    
    After you signed or resigned your coaches, go to TRAINING STAFF. Here you
    will find staffing to help you prevent injuries for your players, and be able
    to help them recover faster. Make sure to sign the best possible staff.
    
    e) Now go to SET PRICES.
    
    For TICKETS, MERCHANDISE, and PARKING, set prices to the last green horizontal
    arrow. For CONCESSIONS set to second to last green horizontal arrow. Keep
    ADVERTISING at 0 until the regular season starts.
    
    f) Go to MY MADDEN and save your franchise again.
    
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    3. Relocating
    
    a) Go to STADIUM located in the off season owner mode menu.
    
    b) Scroll down to RELOCATE on the STADIUM menu and hit the (X) button.
    On the next screen hit the (X) button under other cities. More than likely,
    (unless your team is doing very poorly) no city is quite ready to contribute
    large sums of money towards a move to their city. You will get a warning
    stating that before you proceed further. Proceed!
    
    c) On the next screen you will find 60 different cities that are available for
    your team to relocate to. You will see how interested the cities are in
    getting a team, and the population of each city. For info, the announcers do
    say the names of each city in the game.
    
    Cities with highest desire:
    
    Los Angeles 99
    Mexico City 98
    Boston 95
    Richmond 90
    Lincoln 90
    
    Obviously, the less desire a city has for a team, the more money your team
    has to contribute towards the move.
    (some financial examples are posted in the next section, see SECURE FUNDS)
    
    d) Once you select a city, a new page will show you even more information
    about the city you are about to relocate to. Including population growth
    changes and average income. Scroll to YES and hit the (X) button to proceed
    to the RELOCATION MAIN MENU.
    
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    4. RELOCATION MAIN MENU
    
    a) This is where things matter!
    
    b) On the RELOCATION MAIN MENU, you will see seven different items that will
    need your attention. In order for the NFL LOGO GLITCH to work, please follow
    the exact order listed below.
    
    Step 1 - Select location (you will see the city you selected here so move
    to step 2)
    
    Step 2 - Design stadium - within this menu, you might get confused, but just
    realize, it will be using your old team's colors and logo here. Do not worry.
    If you plan to change your team colors and/or logo, you don't do it here
    anyway. Complete everything you want in here now, and move on to step 3 by
    pressing continue >.
    
    Step 3 - Secure funds - here is where you shell out your money to move the
    team. Follow these steps.
    
    a) Scroll down to relocation package contribution. Now toggle once to the left.
    This will allow you the maximum contribution amount.
    b) Don't use PSLs.
    c) Scroll up to team contribution and fill the bar until it turns green. This
    is the minimum amount you will have to pay to move your team.
    
    Financial Examples
    
    Team Desire (99) - City (Los Angeles) - Team Contribution ($60 mil)
    Team Desire (98) - City (Mexico City) - Team Contribution ($62 mil)
    Team Desire (82) - City   (Orlando)   - Team Contribution ($70 mil)
    Team Desire (61) - City   (Portland)  - Team Contribution ($99 mil)
    Team Desire  (7) - City   (Bismark)   - Team Contribution($146 mil)			
    
    d) Once you are done here press continue > and on to step 4.
    
    Step 4 - Submit Proposal
    
    !!! Warning, there is no turning back after this point. Also, make sure the
    approval bar in step 3 is in the green. You can get denied! If it's in the
    green, you will be approved and on to step 5.
    
    Step 5 - Change Nickname
    
    Here, you select the primary and secondary colors that you want to use for your
    new and improved team. If you are just changing cities, and want to keep your
    usual colors, they will already be there.
    Please note, that if you do change your colors, your new stadium and uniforms
    will reflect those colors, but NOT YOUR CHEERLEADERS.
    Also, it is best to use all CAPS when selecting your team's abbreviation.
    
    After you have selected you new nickname, colors etc.... it is time to select
    a GENERIC LOGO. YES, A GENERIC LOGO. For the GLITCH TO WORK, you MUST do this.
    To make it easy, just select the first one, which is the EA SPORTS LOGO.
    Now press continue > and on to step 6.
    
    Step 6 - Change Uniform
    
    First things first. On Helmet, toggle down to STRIPE TYPE. Here is where you
    make the logo pop up. You can select single stripe w/logo, short stripe w/logo,
    triple stripe w/logo.... or even just logo. MAKE SURE you have a logo on for
    both home and away uniforms.
    Once you have created your new uniforms, and made sure you see the EA Sports
    logo on both your home and away uniforms, press continue > and go to STEP 5.
    YES, back to step 5.
    
    Step 5 - Change Nickname
    
    Now, the only thing you touch here is the LOGO part. Yes, this is where you
    trade in that EA SPORTS LOGO for an NFL or Historic NFL LOGO. Once you have
    selected your logo, press continue > and go directly to STEP 7!
    
    Step 7 - Finalize
    
    Hit the (X) button to finalize, and you are done! Providing you didn't go back
    into step 6, all should be fine.
    
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    5. Team by Team Breakdown (plus recommendations)
    
    As stated above, not every team's logo work perfectly with this glitch. So here
    is the team by team breakdown, including historic and NFL Europe logos.
    
    Bears - One logo is backwards, size is normal.
    
    recommendation - Use a generic PAW, instead of the C, which is for the city you
    abandoned hehe
    
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    Bengals - Picture of the Bengals head is the logo on the helmet instead of the
    usual stripes.
    Historic Bengals - A picture of the historic Bengals helmet is the logo on the
    helmet, instead of the word BENGALS.
    
    recommendation - Go for the Bengal head, it actually looks really good with a
    white helmet with short black stripes.
    
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    Bills - Logo is correct but appears a bit smaller than normal. Looks decent.
    Historic Bills - Perfect! Looks Great.
    
    recommendation - Historic Bills logo!
    
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    Broncos - Logo appears smaller. Looks decent.
    Historic Broncos - One Logo is Backwards.
    
    recommendation - Use the regular logo, small but OK.
    
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    Browns - Browns have no logo on their helmet to begin with.
    Historic Browns - You get the little guy on the 50 yard line
    
    recommendation - The little guy looks pretty cool.
    
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    Bucs - Logo might just be a bit smaller, but not much. Looks good.
    Historic Bucs - Near perfect
    
    recommendation - I'd go for the newer logo, still looks sharp.
    
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    Cardinals - About twice as small as it should be.
    
    recommendation - The generic Cardinal looks better, just keep the same colors.
    
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    Chargers - Picture of helmet appears on your helmet.
    Historic Chargers - AWESOME! The shield is on the helmet.
    
    recommendations - The Chargers shield looks awesome, and you get it at midfield
    too. You can make this one of the best uniforms in the game.
    
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    Chiefs - One logo has the KC backwards.
    Original Chiefs - One logo Backwards.
    
    recommendation - Use the Generic Native Logo, or rename.
    
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    Colts - Near Perfect.
    Historic Colts - Same.
    
    recommendation - Newer Colts has better logo at midfield.
    
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    Cowboys - Near Perfect.
    Historic Cowboys - Got the horse, but looks bad.
    
    recommendation - Plenty to chose from here, there are 2 Generic Stars even.
    Just don't get the horse.
    
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    Dolphins - Perfect
    Historic Dolphics - Awesome!
    
    recommendation - Historic Dolphins all the way, midfield looks great.
    
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    Eagles - Eagle head, and backwards.
    Historic Eagles - The whole eagle is on there, looks good.
    
    recommendation - Historic is the only way to go here.
    
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    Falcons - Perfect
    Historic Falcons - A size smaller, but looks cool that way.
    
    recommendation - Toss up! Both are good!
    
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    49ers - One logo has SF backwards
    Historic 49ers - same : (
    
    recommendation - Generic Logos (Miner,Worker,Convict,Skull,Ravager)
    
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    Giants - One logo backwards
    Historic Giants #1 - same
    Historic Giants #2 - same
    
    recommendation - Generic Logos (Monster,Plunderer,Shield)
    
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    Jaguars - Perfect
    
    recommendation - USE IT!
    
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    Jets - One logo backwards
    Historic Jets #1 - same
    Historic Jets #2 - same
    
    recommendation - Generic Logos (Fly,Plane,Dynamo) or rename
    
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    Lions - Smaller, but ok
    Historic Lions - Lions didn't have a logo way back when.
    
    recommendation - Use the regular logo.
    
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    Packers - One logo backwards
    Historic Packers - looks cool, got the guy on there.
    
    recommendation - Historic Packers is good enough.
    
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    Panthers - Smaller, looks bad.
    
    recommendation - rename to Tigers, that logo is cool.
    
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    Patriots - Smaller, but looks good.
    Historic Patriots - Doesn't look as good as I remembered it.
    
    recommendation - new PATS!
    
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    Raiders - Perfect
    
    recommendation - Keep the Silver and Black alive!
    
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    Rams - Picture of helmet on helmet
    Historic Rams #1 - The blue and white ram turns out great, ram head!
    Historic Rams #2 - Picture of helmet on helmet.
    
    recommendation - Use the blue and white ram head on a goldish/yellow helmet.
    
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    Ravens - Logo smaller, looks decent.
    
    recommendation - Purple and white Ottawa Sugar Buzz?
    
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    Redskins - Perfect
    
    recommendation - Hail to the Redskins!!!
    
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    Saints - just a size smaller maybe, and placement looks strange.
    
    recommendation - still decent enough to use.
    
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    Seahawks - twice as small
    Historic Seahawks - also small, but a little bigger.
    
    recommendation - Historic I suppose.
    
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    Steelers - Logo kinda big on both sides, placement isn't the best.
    
    recommendation - Keep the steel curtain alive?
    
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    Texans - one logo backwards
    Original Texans - same
    
    recommendation - Generic Logos (Desperado or Bandit)
    
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    Titans - Smaller, looks decent
    
    recommendation - good enough to use.
    
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    Vikings - Not just the horn, but the whole viking is on there, looks good.
    
    recommendation - keep em purple.
    
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    Oilers - Looks great
    Oilers #2 - Looks awesome
    
    recommendation - Both are best bets, if you want blue use #1, red white and
    blue use #2.
    
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    AFC & NFC - Both just a size small but ok.
    
    recommendation - You could use these logos with cities that start with A or N.
    
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    Admirals - little smaller, looks decent.
    
    recommendation - there are better euro logos to use.
    If you do use it, make sure to take the logo off at midfield, as it is the
    NFL Europe Logo.
    
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    Claymores - might be a bit smaller, looks decent.
    
    recommendation - you get the sword at midfield too.
    
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    Dragons - looks good.
    
    recommendation - again, take the logo off at midfield, as it is the europe
    league logo.
    
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    Fire - twice as small
    
    recommendation - don't use it.
    
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    Galaxy - looks good.
    
    recommendation - midfield europe again. This logo rocks though.
    
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    Thunder - looks good.
    
    recommendation - midfield europe again. This might be the best euro logo.
    
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    Best Generic - Sugar Buzz, Comet, Tiger
    
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    last updated on August 29th, 2003