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    |WINNING ELEVEN 9 / PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5|
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    |    MASTER LEAGUE TEAM TRAINING GUIDE    |
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    Version 0.4
    
    -> History
    -> 13 Oct 05 - Updated and Fixed players list and added an answer to 
    the FAQ section.
    -> 22 Aug 05 - Updated and added more players.  Finished Training
    section.  Fixed minor errors and re-wrote certain parts of the FAQ
    -> 12 Aug 05 - Got the Game and started researching.  Looked at 8 teams
    and added good players into respective growth charts + updating minor 
    errors
    -> 2 Aug 05 - Started the Guide by reusing old WE8 guide and updating 
    pre-released information (2nd growth spurts and new Curves, training
    features)
    
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    |[#0] Table of Contents|
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    [#0]  Table of Contents
    [#1]  Introduction
    [#2]  Growth Trends
    [#3]  Experience points
    [#4]  Training
    [#5]  Credits + What I would like..
    [#6]  Boring Old Copyrights stuff
    [#7]  Frequently Asked Questions
    [#8]  Contact me...
    
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    |[#1]  Introduction|
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    In WE8/PES4 in Master League, Konami developed the Player Development
    fature which allows us to develop younsters into Stars out there like 
    Zidane.  In WE9/PES5, Konami further improved it.
    
    In WE9, Konami implemented the second growth feature and more Growth
    Trends.  There're now a few main types that will be explain in the
    next part of the FAQ.
    
    Apparently, the Master League system had a drastic change.  Classic 
    Players no longer start at 17 yrs old, they start at whatever age 
    they're at in matchmode now.  When players retire, they don't re-appear
    either, new players replace them.  On with player developing...!
    
    P.S.  I've been recieving more and more emails about fixing player 
    names. For one, this is a player training guide, secondly, I have given
    links for you to revise the names of players in the "FAQ" section of
    this FAQ.  Read it.
    
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    |[#2] Growth Trends|
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    I'll keep it simple.  There are 3 main types of growth trends, but 
    they vary a bit for each player. (Please bare with the ASCII charts).
    These 3 growth trends also divert into sub groups (two of them). 
    The Short and normal growths both divert unti a Normal, Durable and
    Double growth type.  Durable people last for 3 seasons, usually.  
    Double growth player's second growth tend to be better than the first
    but that may not be the case every single time.
    
    (ia)  :Short-Term Growth
    (ib)  :Short-Term + Durable
    (ic)  :Short-Term 2 Growth
    
    (iia) :Middle Growth
    (iib) :Middle Growth + durable
    (iic) :Middle 2 Growth
    
    (iiia):Long-Term Growth
    
    
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    => (ia)  :Short-Term Growth
    
    
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    This type has been retained from WE8/PES4.  It is specially for players 
    who develop early in game but they dip really quickly.  This is a early 
    growth type of player.  They gain a LOT of experience points so it 
    would be wise to put them as substitutes.  Even if they score a 6 as 
    their match point, they would still gain a lot of experience, therefore 
    there's no need to actually play them for the whole match.  They are, 
    as well the easiest players to train.  I'll call them 
    "Short-Term players" (STP).
    
    --> Good Examples of players with this kind of chart
    
    GK: 
    CB: Kolo Toure / Mertesacker
    SB: Kabei
    SW: 
    WB:
    DMF: 
    CMF: 
    SMF: 
    OMF: Joe Cole
    WG: Robben
    ST: Rooney
    CF: 
    
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    => (ib)  :Short-Term + Durable
    
    
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    This is similar to the above trend, except players last a tad bit 
    longer,  what happens is, the player usually only lasts a season if
    he's a STP.  For a ST-LL player, he can usually last a couple of 
    seasons extra.
    
    --> Good Examples of players with this kind of chart
    
    GK: Buffon / Landreau
    CB: 
    SB: Roberto Carlos
    SW: 
    WB:
    DMF: 
    CMF: 
    SMF: 
    OMF: 
    WG:
    ST: Reyes / Del Piero
    CF: 
    
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    (ic)  :Short-Term 2 Growth
    
    
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    This is similar to the above trend, except players drop at around 23 
    then come back at around 26.  In general, these players are pretty
    easy to train like most short term Growth players.  I'd recommend 
    putting the players on loan until they actually regain their curve.
    
    --> Good Examples of players with this kind of chart
    
    GK: 
    CB: 
    SB: 
    SW: 
    WB: 
    DMF: 
    CMF: 
    SMF: 
    OMF: Pirlo
    WG: 
    ST: 
    CF: Baros / Mutu
    
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    => (iia) :Middle Growth
    
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    This is the normal growth speed.  It's lies somewhat in the middle, or 
    near the middle.  Like STPs, this is quite similar, you gain quite a 
    lot of experience and there is not a need to put the player on the 
    starting Eleven and they only last a season or so.  The best way to 
    exceed the chart is to consistently get 7.0+ for your player score per
     match, and get as many awards as possible. Another method would be, 
    loaning the player to another club, and retrieve him back later when 
    his stats are usable.
    
    --> Good Examples of players with this kind of chart
    
    GK: Cech
    CB: Rio Ferdinand / Heitinga
    SB: Ashley Cole / Chiellini
    SW: 
    WB: Cicinho
    DMF: 
    CMF: Lampard / Fabregas
    SMF: Riise
    OMF: Kaka
    WG: C.Ronaldo
    ST: Bergkamp / Ronaldinho
    CF: Eto'o / Adriano / Poldolski
    
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    => (iib) :Middle Growth + durable
    
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    Like the Mid Growth, these grow at 25~.  These lasts a tad bit longer
    like the ST-LL Players compared to the STPs.  Same concept, I guess I
    Don't need to speak much more!
    
    --> Good Examples of players with this kind of chart
    
    GK: Kahn / Toldo
    CB: Puyol / Coloccini
    SB: 
    SW: 
    WB: J.Zanetti
    DMF: Mascherano
    CMF: Iniesta
    SMF: Beckham / Figo
    OMF: Rui Costa
    WG: Robinho
    ST: Gudjohnsen
    CF: Henry / Gilardino
    
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    => (iic) :Middle 2 Growth
    
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    This is a same as above, except with a 2x growth, usually involving a
    major decrease in stats between each growth
    
    --> Good Examples of players with this kind of chart
    
    GK: Dida
    CB: 
    SB: Belleti
    SW: 
    WB: 
    DMF: Makelele
    CMF: 
    SMF: 
    OMF: Pires
    WG: Giggs / Van Der Meyde
    ST: Baumjohann
    CF: 
    
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    => (iiia):Long-Term Growth
    
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    Heck, these take FOREVER to train.  Of course, it's hard like hell.  
    It takes lots and lots of effort to exceed the actual curve. Anyway, 
    I highly suggest that you actually loan them for a few seasons until 
    they're useful enough for your squad.  
    
    --> Good Examples of players with this kind of chart
    
    GK: 
    CB: Maldini 
    SB: 
    SW: 
    WB: Cafu
    DMF: 
    CMF: 
    SMF: 
    OMF: 
    WG: 
    ST: 
    CF: Alan Smith
    
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    Well, the important thing is: Buy the right players.  Players who have
    great potential are USUALLY at around 700-1000.  STPs who have great 
    potential won't even cost up to 700.  Well, they don't last long
    enough, do they?  Now with the added feature in which you can tell if
    a player is growing or slacking, you can buy players with an assured 
    success.  This can be shown by pressing the right on the D-Pad again
    after checking out the chances of buying the player (star rating).
    
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    => Players with OMG growth curves:
    
    Okay, most of this will be either classic players or hidden ones, be
    prepared.  If you don't want to use them, don't even bother with this
    part.
    
    --> Alan Smith - CF
        Okay, this is unbelievable.  I screamed out loud when I saw his
        growth.  It shoots RIGHT UP from the 80s to the 90s in 1 year or
        so.  It's a MUST BUY.  Guaranteed game success.  He has 14 stats
        that're above/at 95 in my game right now and it's only 4 seasons.
        
    
    --> Baumjohann - ST
        He's in Shalke04.  His curve is unbelievable.  When you first have
        a look at his growing point when you're scouting, he's most likely
        having a decreasing growth.  But when you actually sign him, he has
        a double peak growth.  His peak (on his second growth) tips near 
        the 95s.  If he had special abilities he would be a monstrous 
        striker/support forward.
    
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    => Stats that never drop. Never will.
    
    Yep.  There are such stats which will never drop regardless of age.
    Konami emphasizes the fact that technique of a player will never 
    decrease, as for any sport.  Anyway the following stats will NEVER
    decrease, no matter what age is the player.
    
    --> Shoot Technique
    --> Technique
    --> Offense
    --> Defense
    --> Weaker Foot ability
    --> Weaker Foot frequency
    --> Curving the Ball
    --> Stamina
    --> All Stability Related Stats
    
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    |[#3]  Experience points|
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    Each position increases different stats of a player... if you want an
    all-rounded player, let him play all different positions.  I suppose
    that it wouldn't work, but it's just a thought!  On with the guide...
    
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    ->Positions and their individual attributes:
    
    GK:
    
    => Stats
    --> Goal Keeping Skill
    --> Response
    --> Body Balance
    --> Defense
    
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    CB:
    
    => Stats
    --> Body Balance
    --> Height
    --> Defense
    --> Header
    --> Response
    --> Stamina
    
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    WB:
    
    => Stats
    --> Stamina
    --> Speed
    --> Acceleration
    --> Offense
    --> Defense
    
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    SB/SMF:
    
    => Stats
    --> Top Speed
    --> Acceleration
    --> Dribble Accuracy
    --> Long pass Accuracy
    --> Long pass Speed
    --> Stamina
    
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    DMF/CMF:
    
    => Stats
    --> Stamina
    --> Body Balance
    --> Defense
    --> Jump
    --> Short Pass Accuracy
    --> Technique
    
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    OMF:
    
    => Stats
    --> Short Pass Accuracy
    --> Long Pass Accuracy
    --> Shoot Accuracy
    --> Dribble Accuracy
    --> Technique
    --> Offense
    
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    WG:
    
    => Stats
    --> Shoot Accuracy
    --> Shoot Technique
    --> Top Speed
    --> Acceleration
    --> Response
    --> Technique
    
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    ST:
    
    => Stats
    --> Shoot Accuracy
    --> Shoot Power
    --> Short Passes
    --> Response
    
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    CF:
    
    => Stats
    --> Shoot Accuracy
    --> Shoot Technique
    --> Top Speed
    --> Acceleration
    --> Response
    --> Technique
    
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    According to MY experiences, when you score goals, most of the 
    experience goes to Shoot technique, don't know if the theory is true 
    though.
    
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    |[#4]  Training|
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    In WE8, we had to train during off season with very time consuming 
    things.  They were:
    
    => Team
    --> Right Corner Kick
    --> Left Corner Kick
    --> Short Pass
    --> Attacking
    --> Snatch the Ball
    
    => Individual
    --> Shooting
    --> Dribble
    --> Long Pass
    --> Freekick
    
    In WE9, there was a drastic change in Training.  Now, you do specific
    training. Now you train with these, individually.
    
    -> Rest (Resting tired players)
    -> Scoring
    -> Drbbling
    -> Passing
    -> Defending
    -> Free Kicks
    -> Header
    -> Body Balance
    -> Speed
    -> Stamina
    -> Goal Keeping
    -> Teamwork
    
    I especially love the addition for speed.  It was something that 
    took ages to train up, even for a Side Midfielder. 
    
    Do whatever neccesary to your players (e.g. when Ronaldo's passing 
    starts to fail you, let him practice passing)
    
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    Scoring:
    
    -> Shoot power
    -> Shoot Acc
    -> Shoot Technique
    -> Offense
    
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    Dribbling:
    
    -> Dribble Accuracy
    -> Dribble Speed
    
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    Passing:
    
    -> Short pass Accuracy
    -> Short pass Speed
    -> Long pass accuracy
    -> Long pass speed
    
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    Defending:
    
    -> Defense
    
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    Freekicks:
    
    -> Freekick Accuracy
    -> Curve
    
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    Header:
    
    -> Header
    -> Jump
    
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    Body Balance:
    
    -> Body Balance
    -> 
    
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    Speed:
    
    -> Speed
    -> Acceleration
    
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    Stamina:
    
    -> Stamina
    
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    Goal Keeping:
    
    -> GK technique
    -> Response
    
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    Teamwork:
    
    -> Teamwork
    
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    |[#5]  Credits + What I would like..|
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    Okay.  First of all, thanks to myself.  Since it's my work.  All alone.
    
    Credits:
    Mastermind Chaud (MMC) - Need I say more?
    CJayC and GameFAQs.com - Need I say more?
    Konami and Sony - For creating Winning Eleven Series (Pro Evo) and the 
    Play Station 2
    ilovebananas - for proving links to translation of player names.
    
    What I would like:
    Erm, if you've read the WHOLE guide, I would like some players for 
    respective growth charts.  I've only played 1 season, so I have
    limited knowledge on players.  We all buy different people, so 
    hopefully I'll get more into the list.  Check Contact Me for my 
    e-mail address.
    
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    |[#6] Boring Old Copyright Stuff|
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    This FAQ/Guide belongs ONLY to Mastermind Chaud (MMC) or Martin Lee in
    Real life.  You know you don't want people to steal your work, so don't
    steal mine.
    
    If you would like to use it, ask.  Send me a E-mail in advance, got my
    permission, then you use it.  And please specify the use.  If you would
    like to host it, get my permission, host it, then link me to it so I
    know you haven't been changing it.  I here say:
    
    "THIS GUIDE SHOULD ONLY BE POSTED ON
    
    1. www.gamefaqs.com
    2. IGN.com
    
    If I find anyone else using my work, you're be screwdrivered. Dead 
    serious."
    
    On the nice bit, you're free to save one copy of this on your hard disk
    but yet again, you may NOT alter the info.
    
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    |[#7] Frequently Asked Questions|
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    I've been recieving tons and tons of the same question recently, so I
    might as well tell the answer to the question(s) right here.
    
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    Que: Where are the secret players?  Where?  I've bought them from the
         WE-Shop/PES-Shop!  Where did they go!?
    
    Ans: On average, I get 1 of this particular question in 2 days.  The
         Answer to this question is: Play a full season.
    
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    Que: I want a full list of player name translations, can you send me a
         copy?  Do you know a patch to correct the player names?
    
    Ans: Thanks to 'ilovebananaes', I've recieved a document which might be
         able to help you out.
    
         English premiership -- 
         http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players?league=eng.1&cc=4716
     
         Spanish Primeria -- 
         http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players?league=esp.1&cc=4716
     
         Serie A --
         http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players?league=ita.1&cc=4716
     
         Bundesliga --
         http://soccernet.espn.go.com/tables?league=ger.1&cc=4716 ** ** ** 
     
         French Ligue 1 --
         http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players?league=fra.1&cc=4716
     
         Dutch Eredivisie --
         http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players?league=ned.1&cc=4716
     
         Scottish premier league --
         http://soccernet.espn.go.com/tables?league=sco.1&cc=4716 ** ** **
    
         ** ** ** (Must click on Respective clubs---> look at the tab on 
         top ---> click on 'Squad')
    
         National teams are not included into this so you'll have to find
         those yourself.  
    
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    |[#8] Contact Me...|
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    Simple stuff ahead.  Don't Spam, don't sign me up for useless things
    My e-mail/IM adresses:
    
    e-mail: protommc@gmail.com
    AIM: GaiaBusterBlader
    
    I suppose I don't need a telephone number!  Anyway, thanks for reading,
    don't flame me on e-mails, I'd prefer nice notes.
    
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