Technical Seiken Densetsu 3 Faq
Meeple Lard
Date 8/29/03, Version 10.1

Table of Contents:
1.Introduction
2.Back Ground
3.Terms to know
4.Damage Calculations
5.Stat and Equipment Calculations
6.Spell Calculations
7.Support Spells and Effects Calculations
8.Recovery Rates and Spell Casting Times
9.Miscellaneous Q&A
10.Other Faqs to Read
11.Version History
12.Credits
13.Legal Stuff

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1.Introduction
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Hi there all you viewers.  If you're reading this, then it must be 
posted.  This is my Second Faq, for those who don't know.  My first was 
a Faq for the Same Game, Seiken Densetsu 3, on the Character Hawk.  
This one is a bit different.  If you ever wondered how the Game figures 
out things like damage, or if you wondered things like "Do Sabers 
Effect Techs?" this is where most of those Questions will be answered.  
This Faq is dedicated to all the technical Stuff within the game Seiken 
Densetsu.  Please realize that this is not a regular Faq or a 
Walkthrough, but an Information Guide so that you can see certain 
Aspects of the game and whether some rumors related to this are true or 
false.  Anyway, Lets Start.

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2.Back Ground
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For those who don't know what this game is, this is an explanation of 
it.  The Game is the Prequel of Secret of Mana, or in Japan, Seiken 
Densetsu 2.  In other words, this Game was made after, but takes place 
way before the events in Secret of Mana.  The game is an Action RPG or 
an Adventure as some people might consider it.  The story is about in a 
land where Mana is source that brings life; the Goddess has sealed 8 
mighty Creatures called the God Beasts in 8 Mana Stones.  Years later, 
Mana is fading from the world, and the Mana Tree, which is the current 
form of the Goddess, is slowly Dying.  A few Malicious Hearted people 
have decided to take this time to receive the Mana Sword, the mightiest 
Relic in the World, which houses Power even Greater than the Goddess 
herself.  To do this, they must release the power of the 8 Mana stones 
and Open the gate to the Mana Holy land.  The Goddess sent Faeries to 
find the Chosen ones for the Sword to save the world.  Only one makes 
it, but that's all that was needed.  6 teenagers are chosen.  This is 
where you come in.  You choose 3 of the six, the first is the Main 
Character, and the other 2 are the supporting ones.  The 6 you could 
choose from are:
Duran the Swords Man Mercenary of Forcena
Angela the Magician Princess of Altena
Kevin the Half Beast Man Grappler, Prince of the Beast Kingdom
Carlie the Half Elf Cleric Granddaughter of the Light Priest of Wendel
Hawk the Thief from the Navarre Thieves Guild
Lise the Amazoness Princess of Rolante

Now, the game was not released in the US.  Some people imported the 
Cart from Japan, but a few people translated the game into English and 
made a patch for the Rom.  Most people who played this Game in the US 
use the Rom, but a few have the Cart.  Anyway, this game was a big Hit 
in Japan, but never released anywhere else since the game had a bunch 
of bugs in it.  Anyway, this Faq is dedicated to how the Game works 
things out.

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3. Terms you should know
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FS= Full Screen- Hits all enemies on the Screen, regardless
ST= Single Target- Always hits one enemy
MT= Multi Target- Can be chosen to be FS or ST
T= Tech (used in conjunction with FS and ST)-A move used by the B 
button (default) when your Attack Bar reaches a high enough point
WF= Wolf Forms- At night Time, Kevin becomes a wolf, which makes him a 
different Character in a way
SU= Stat Up- Spell or Item that raises Stats of your Characters
SD= Stat Down- Spell or Item that lowers Stats of the Enemy
HP= Hit Points- how much damage your character can take before they die
MP= Magic Points-The amount of Spells that can be used (spells cost a 
different amount of MP)
STR= Strength- Stat that Effects your Attack Power
AGL= Agility- Stat that effects your Hit and Evade Rates, and the Speed 
of the Trap Wheel in chests (The higher the AGL, the Slower the wheel 
moves)
VIT= Vitality- Stat that Effects your HP and Defense
INT= Intelligence- Stat that effects MOST of your Offensive Magic and 
Magic Defense
SPR= Spirit- Stat that effects various things centered around magic, 
explained later in the FAQ
Luck- Stat that effects various miscellaneous things, explained later 
in Fact
DEF= Defense- The amount you defend against Physical attacks
ATK= Attack- Related to Physical Attacks
MAG= Magic- Related to Magic Attacks
PWR= Power- How much damage you deal
EVD= Evade- How often your Character Dodges attacks
WP= Weapon Power- Explained in the Weapon Armor Calculation section
AD= Armor Defense- Explained in the Weapon Armor Calculation section
PQ= Potential Question- A question that MAY be brought up by some one 
(to tell you the truth, its my way showing a point as opposed to just 
plain THROWING it in awkwardly, at least when I can't think of a better 
way to flow into that particular comment)
A= Answer- My answer to the Potential Question
CC= Class Change- When a Character becomes a New more powerful Class
FC= Final Class- Class achieved after the 2nd Class change, all Light 
Light, Light Dark, Dark Light, and Dark Dark Classes are Final Classes. 
Light Classes- Includes Light, Light Light, and Light Dark classes
Dark Classes- Includes Dark, Dark Light, and Dark Dark Classes.
Active Time- The time during the game in which you are capable of 
controlling your characters.  In other words, when your not using the 
ring menu or a Spell/Tech is being pulled off. 
Schematic of classes:

                  Light Light
                 /
            Light
            /    \
           /      Light Dark
    Neutral
           \      Dark Light
            \    /
             Dark
                 \
                  Dark Dark

So, on the Menu screen, an Arrow up means Light and an Arrow down means 
Dark when showing the Possible Class Changes.

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4.Damage Calculations
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Now, this is for the Sole purpose of how Damage is dealt in this Game.

For Regular attacks, The Characters ATK PWR subtracted by the Enemies 
Defense Power is the base damage.  Then, 1 point of Damage is randomly 
added or subtracted from that amount.  If the amount is 0 or Negative, 
then the damage dealt is 1.

Magic Attacks follow a similar rule.  The rule is the MAG PWR of the 
spell subtracted by the MAG DEF of the enemy.  Then, a few minor points 
of damage are randomly added or subtracted (depends upon the Spell).  
For elemental spells, they do 1.25 the damage they do on their elements 
day.  This is a chart of the spirits, and the element(s) they 
corresponds with:
Salamando = Fire 
Undine = Ice and Water
Jinn = Wind and Thunder
Gnome = Earth
Dryad = Leaf and Wood 
Luna = Moon
Wisp = Light and Holy 
Shade = Darkness
The only significance the Mana Holy Day has is that it makes Inns free.  
Also, people believe that Light spells are stronger at Day and Dark at 
Night, but this is false.  Day and Night determine other random factors 
like Kevin's WFs and Enemies are examples.

When an Enemy is weak against an Elemental attack, the Spell does 2x 
the damage it would normally do.

Now, for techs, they each follow this rule:
Level 1 techs: 1.67 x the characters ATK PWR
Level 2 techs: 2.0 x the characters ATK PWR
Level 3 techs: 2.5x the characters ATK PWR
NOTE: Level 2 and 3 techs don't add the random numbers.

So, for example, if you take the Duelist, who has an ATK PWR of 351, 
and put it up against an Enemy who has a DEF of 100, then the Damage 
dealt would be:
Regular Attacks: 251
Level 1 tech: 486
Level 2 Tech: 602
Level 3 Tech: 778

Now, that applies for MAG damage as well, only it's much harder to show 
examples since they don't give you the MAG PWR of each spell.

Now, if Sabers were on the Weapon, then we simply double the ATK PWR of 
that character (providing the enemy has a weakness to that element), 
but note that Sabers DO NOT affect Level 2 and 3 techs.

So, the Duelist in the same situation has Thunder Saber cast on his 
weapon against the same enemy who is weak against Thunder:
Regular attack: 500 points of damage
Level 1 tech: 836 points of damage.

So, now that damage is out of the way, on to Stats.

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5. Stat and Weapon Calculations
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First we'll start with ATK PWR, since that's what we were discussing.

The rule of ATK PWR is this:
STR x Weapon's Power = Base ATK PWR
Base ATK PWR + Weapon Bonus = Weapon's ATK PWR
Weapon's ATK PWR + Character Bonus = Character's ATK PWR
Character's ATK PWR + Class Bonus = Listed ATK PWR (referred to as ATK 
PWR from now on)

Now, we'll be doing Calculations with the Strongest Equipment, since 
it's a lot easier to work with that stuff, and there is the most 
variety of Best Equipment.  This also takes away from the Confusion 
Factor.  So basically, all weapons we will be discussing have a Weapon 
power of 15, but most have much lower, remember that these are the 
Strongest Equipment.

The WP determines what Level Weapon the character is using, or at 
least, that's how I like to refer to it as.  The WP, in every case, is 
1 point higher than the Level of the Weapon.
For instance, the Level 1 weapons (the Initially Equipped Weapons of 
the Main Character) have a WP of 2
The Level 2 Weapons (Initially Equipped Weapons of your Allies when 
they join) have a WP of 3
The level 14 Weapons (the Ultimate Weapons, or the ones Obtained 
through Weapon/Armor seeds by all classes except the Neutrals) have a 
WP of 15.

STR is a stat raises your ATK PWR.  The STR is based on what character 
your using, what class he/she is, and how much emphasis you put into 
raising it when you level up.  The Following is the order from the best 
to worst of what each Characters RANGE in STR is, and what that Range 
is (Character's Initial STR -> Character's Highest STR):
Duran:  6 -> 22
Lise:   5 -> 20
Kevin:  4 -> 19
Hawk:   3 -> 18
Angela: 2 -> 17
Carlie: 2 -> 17

So, Duran has the Highest ATK PWR while Angela and Carlie have the 
Lowest, generally speaking.
So, every point of STR with the Strongest Weapon means 15 points of 
damage more not including the modifiers from the bonuses that come 
after.

Now, if 2 Classes have Equal STR, then to determine the Higher ATK PWR, 
you go by the Class Bonuses.  Here are the Class Bonuses each Ultimate 
Weapon gets compared to each other from the same Character: 

Neutral Weapons: 0
Light Light Weapons: +2
Light Dark Weapons: +4
Dark Light Weapons: +6
Dark Dark Weapons: +8

So, basically, if you take the God Hand (Kevin's Light Light) and the 
Dervish (Kevin's Dark Dark), both of which have an STR of 18, the 
Dervish would have a Higher ATK PWR by 6 points since it's a Dark Dark 
class and the God Hand is a Light Light.  Now, granted, 6 points is 
very little, but Square probably made a few point differences in ATK 
PWR to make sure that No class of the same character was equally as 
strong.

Next, if 2 classes have the Same STR but are NOT from the Same 
Character, then this system follows with the Character Bonus Modifiers:
Swords (Duran): +0
Spears (Lise): +1
Gloves, Knuckles and Claws (Kevin): +2
Daggers and Swallows (Hawk): +3
Rods and Staves (Angela): +7
Flails (Carlie): +7

How to find the Weapon Bonus is a bit more difficult, since like the 
WP, it changes constantly depending on which Level Weapon your using.  
However, unlike WP power, it's not just a simple relation to the Level 
of the Weapon.  Weapon Bonuses don't ALWAYS change when you give a 
character a higher level Weapon.
How to find Weapon Power you ask?  Here are two examples of how I'd go 
about it:
 
Example #1:
Weapon: Death Bringer (Dark Dark Ultimate Weapon) 
Class: Duelist
Character: Duran
STR: 22
ATK PWR: 351
WP of Ultimate: 15
With this in mind, I did the following: 
22(STR)*15(WP)=330
330 + 0(Character Bonus) + 8(Class Bonus)=338
351(ATK PWR) - 338(ATK PWR w/out Weapon Bonus)= 13

Result: The Death Bringer's Weapon Bonus is +13. 

Example #2:
Weapon: Flint Knife (Neutral Initial Weapon)
Class: Thief
Character: Hawk
STR: 3
ATK PWR: 15
WP of Initial: 2
3(STR)*2(WP)=6
6 + 3(Character Bonus) + 0(Class Bonus)=9
15(ATK PWR) - 9(ATK PWR w/out Weapon Bonus)=6

Result: The Flint Knife's Weapon Bonus is 6

PQ: Ok, with all the bonuses and such, what is the Most Important 
Factor towards the characters ATK PWR?

A: Generally Speaking, the most important factor in the ATK of a 
Character is the WP and the Character's current STR.  Early in the game 
though, the Weapon Bonus might out weigh the WP and STR a bit, but as 
you get better weapons, the Bonus' become less and less apparent.  
Class Bonuses and Character Bonuses play the smallest roles in 
determining ATK PWR, since they have the smallest values.  The Bonuses 
are just there basically to make as Few classes as possible with 
Identical ATK PWR
NOTE: The Only Exception, I believe, to the Identical ATK PWR rule is 
the Ninja Master (Hawk's Dark Light) and the Grand Divina (Angela's 
Light Light), whom both have an ATK PWR of 277.

Now, on to Defense and Armor.
Defense is figured out through a similar Method as ATK PWR.  The Rule 
for DEF is:
VIT x Armor Defense(AD) = Base Defense
Base Defense + Helmet Bonus + Accessory Bonus = Equipment Defense
Equipment Defense + Character Bonus = Character's Defense
Character's Defense + Class Bonus = Total Defense (refered to as DEF 
from now on)

Now, the difference between ATK PWR and DEF is that in DEF you can't 
Surpass 300, while in ATK PWR, you can go as high as it allows.  It is 
possible for all characters to Reach a 300 DEF, but some have an Easier 
time than others.  

VIT is a stat, like STR, that you raise when you gain levels and is 
dependant on what character your using, and what level he/she is.
The List of each character's Range in VIT is(Initial VIT -> Max VIT):
Kevin:  6 -> 22
Duran:  5 -> 21
Lise:   4 -> 20
Hawk:   3 -> 19
Carlie: 2 -> 18
Angela: 2 -> 18

Now, the interesting thing about VIT is that all the FC's of one 
character have equal Vitality.  Now, there are 2 reasons that let each 
Character Max out their DEF.  
Those reasons are:
Accessories and Helmets add to DEF and are not related to the 
Character's Stats.
The other is that the Difference in Character Bonus is much higher than 
that of the Weapon Bonuses.

I can't say exactly what each of the Character Bonuses is, but I can 
give you who have the highest and lowest in that order:
Carlie
Angela
Hawk
Lise
Duran
Kevin
NOTE: I am not sure who has the higher Character Bonus between Carlie 
and Angela, since they both have VIT stats of 18.  I'd suggest you look 
at a FAQ dedicated to Weapon and Armor Values for the Bonus' that each 
Armor gives. 

So, its not unlikely that early in the game, Angela and Carlie could 
have a Higher Def than Kev, even though his VIT is MUCH higher.  When 
it comes to difference in Armor for Classes, it really does not matter 
much in the Long run, since they all are going to gain the 300 DEF mark 
at some point.

Now, the Helmets and Accessories work differently.  They don't include 
VIT in anyway.  Instead, they have there own Constant Defense rating.  
For instance:
A certain Helmet would raise DEF by 3 points and MAG DEF by 1 point
Another Helmet would raise DEF by 5 points and MAG DEF by 2 points.
You see.  It's just added on, not effected by your VIT or INT in 
anyway.

Speaking of INT, I would say its time for MAG DEF.  MAG DEF follows the 
same system as DEF only with INT instead, so this is the system: 
INT x Armor MAG DEF + Bonus.

Now, unlike all the other 2 stats, all the characters have the Same MAG 
DEF ratings for their Armor.  There are only 2, although, which follow 
this system:
The first half of the armor you get is INT x 4 + 7
The Second half of the Armor you get is INT x 8

That means, in all cases, the Character with Highest INT (Considering 
Equivalent Armor is equipped, no doubt) will have the Highest MAG DEF 
of the party.
The Below is the list of Ranges of INT for each Character (Initial -> 
MAX):
Angela: 6 -> 22
Carlie: 5 -> 20
Lise:   4 -> 19
Hawk:   3 -> 18
Duran:  2 -> 17
Kevin:  2 -> 17

Now, Helmets and Accessories, like in DEF, play a similar role in MAG 
DEF, as they just Add points to that rating, don't involve INT in 
anyway.  Also, like with Weapons, the darker the Helmets and 
Accessories, the Higher the Ratings.  But the difference is only a 
point or 2, so it's not much of a difference.

However, there is another thing I MUST point out.  The MAG DEF the game 
lists is only MAG DEF against INT based spells.  It neglects to tell 
you MAG DEF against SPR based spells.
SPR based MAG DEF is done EXACTLY the same way as INT based MAG DEF, 
the only difference is that instead of using INT in the calculations, 
you use the SPR stat.  Besides that, nothing else changes.

Now, for Evade.  I can't tell exactly how Much Agility effects evade, 
but I believe it raises Differently for Every point of Agility.  For 
instance, if you have raise Agility from 16 to 17, you Evade might go 
up by 2 points.  If you raise Agility from 17 to 18, it might only go 
up one.  Now, the only other thing that Effects Agility is Shields, and 
the only Classes that can equip them are Duran's Light Classes (Knight, 
Paladin, Lord) all shields raise Duran's Evade by 20 points, with one 
Exception.  That exception is the Adamant Shield, which raises Evade by 
25 points.

The other shields, though, don't have anything special about them.  
They are all just variations of the Gold Shield (in otherwords, don't 
bother buying/finding any Shield beyond the Gold Shied, unless it's the 
Oath or Adamant Shield (both used by the Lord))  Now, though at first I 
thought it was a Bug, I've come to believe otherwise.  I think its that 
because Shields are programmed similarly to Accessories in terms of 
special effect, they fell pray to something that was intended for 
Accessories only.
For more info on this Accessory situation, refer to section 9.

Also, from what I've seen, Evade seems to reach a Limit naturally at 
45, since the Ninja Master has that stat for Evade at an AGL of 22, but 
I also noticed that the Rogue has that Evade at with an AGL of 21.  It 
appears that your Evade sometimes raises during Level Ups by itself.
Now, taking Shields into account, the Highest you can raise your Evade 
is up to 60.
Only one class can reach an Evade of 60, the Lord.  It is only reached 
when he gets his AGL Maxed out (I believe its 18) and equips the 
Adamant Shield (adds 25 to Evade) His Natural evade is 38, all the 
other Shields make it 58, so you'd expect a 63 Evade from the Adamant 
Shield, but there's a Limit for Evade at 60.
Like with Defense though, it is possible to surpass those Limits by use 
of a Stat Up.  Of course, that's not exactly natural though.

The Final Stat I would like point out is Hit Rate.  Unfortunately, 
there is NO way to calculate Hit Rate, since it's a TOTALLY unlisted 
stat, and finding the enemies Evade (or any of their stats for that 
matter other than ATK PWR and DEF) is difficult as well.  I believe Hit 
Rate is based on AGL.  Now, normally, I would believe Hit Rate doesn't 
exist, HOWEVER, there are spells that alter Hit Rate like Shurikens or 
Speed Down, so obviously, and such a stat exists.

PQ: Which characters have high AGL and which ones have the lowest AGL?  
And what's the Numerical stat for each.

A: Its listed later in the FAQ, so do not fret.  If you're curious to 
know, check Section 9, the Miscellaneous Q&A section.

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6. Spell Calculations
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Each spell is affected by different Stat and each Spell is affected 
differently by that Stat.  Here's a list of spell types and what they 
are effected by:

Intelligence: 
All of Angela's Spells except Saint Beam, Holy Ball, and Death Spell
Hawk's Jutsu's
Demon Breath (Not Certain)

Spirit: 
Holy Elemental Spells 
Healing Spells
All Summons (Both Carlie's and Lise's)

Agility: 
Throwing spells like Silver Dart
Trap Spells like Land Mine
All the Night Blade's NEW Spells

NOTE: This applies for equivalent Items as well, so a High SPR 
character best throws Poto Oils, or Ice Coins by a High INT character.


The Calculation for Spell Damage, step by step, is the following:

Step 1: Base Power = 25 * Spell's MP Cost
Step 2: Magic Power = Spell Power * Caster's Stat (depending on Spell, 
could be either INT, AGL, or SPR)
Step 3: Base Damage = Magic Power + Base Power
Step 4a: If Spell is "Heal Light," than proceed to step 5. 
Step 4b: If Spell is SPR or INT based, then  Damage = Base Damage - MAG 
DEF.
Step 4c: If Spell is AGL based, then Damage = Base Damage - Defense
Step 5: Final Damage = Damage * Character Modifier

Character Modifier?  If you've read an earlier version of this FAQ, 
you'll know I never mentioned anything close to this.  Well, I'll get 
more in depth with it later in my Q&A section, but here's a brief 
description.

There are 3 "Levels" of characters and enemies in this game. Those 
types characters and enemies Levels along with their Modifiers are: 
Level 1 Targets: 0.5
Level 2 Targets: 0.75
Level 3 Targets: 1.0

In other words, even though an enemy might have lower Magic Defense, 
and in fact, be a weaker enemy, they will take less damage.
As far as YOUR characters go, Neutral classes are Level 1, Dark and 
Light Classes are Level 2, and FC's are Level 3.  Even though Angela's 
Magus Class might have a good 100 points to her Magician Class in MAG 
DEF (this is just for description purposes), the Magician will probably 
take less, believe it or not.

NOTE: These NEW estimates are much closer to what they originally were.  
My Tests were made against Shadow Zero's in the Mana Holy Land after 
they Transformed.  The Reason for this testing is that when a Shadow 
Zero transforms, they gain the exact unaltered stats that character 
has, so I know the enemies MAG DEF.

If an elemental spell is cast on its Proper Spell, some might be 
effected this way: 
Base Damage * 1.25
The following Spells (ones available to YOUR characters only) are 
effected by the "Day" modifier, as we shall call it, and the 
corresponding day listed next to them (no particular order): 
Undine's Day: Ice Smash, Cold Breeze, Mega Splash  
Salamando's Day: Fireball, Blaze Wall, Explosion, 
Luna's Day: Half Vanish (believe it or not, Half Vanish DOES increase 
in damage when used on Luna's Day)
Dryad's Day: Poison Bubble, 
Jinn's Day: Thunder Storm, Air Blast, Stun Wind
Gnome's Day: Diamond Missile, Stone Cloud, Earthquake
Mana Holy Day: None

Despite Popular Belief, Spells on the Opposite day are not any weaker, 
only spells on the Right day are stronger.
Also, Holy elemental is NOT stronger during the day, nor is the Dark 
Elemental at nighttime.  Thus, waiting until Day fall to take on Zable 
Fahr is just a waste of time, and will hurt you, in fact, if you have 
Kevin on your team.

Since I've given you the General Calculations, I'm gonna state the 
Spell Power ONLY.
NOTE: For spells that have some calculation involved, just ignore them, 
since I haven't gotten around to doing accurate tests with them.  Give 
me time, and I will eventually get them all.  Some of these spells are 
approximate values, due to repeating decimals; so don't complain if 
they are not EXACT.

Basic Level 1 Spells: 13
Basic Level 2 Spells: 16
Basic Level 3 Spells: 19
Jutsus: 13
Unicorn: 14
Golem: 14
Gremlin: 18
Ghost: 20
Ghoul: 18 
Great Demon: 21
Rainbow Dust and Double Spell: 27
God Summons: 16
Ancient: 33
Level 1 Traps: 14
Level 2 Traps: 21
Shurikens: 21
Silver Dart: 21
Cutter Missile: 20
Cresent: 19.3333...
Rocket Launcher: 18.14
Axe Bomber: 17.5
Grenade Bomb: 17.5
Poison Bubble: 19
Deadly Weapon: 19.20
Blow Needles: 14
Flame Breath: 14
Poison Breath: 14
Black Rain: 20.20
Heal Light: 25
Demon Breath: 14

Now, the next factor in ALL spells is how many Targets.  The Rule is 
that an MT spell compared to the same Spell targeting 1 enemy is in the 
ratio of 3:4.
Example: 
Save Angela casts Holy Ball 2x.  The First time she casts it, its 
Single Target, and it deals 400.  The 2nd time she casts it, its on ALL 
enemies on the screen, and that same enemy now takes 300 points of 
damage.
Recap: 
Holy Ball's Damage Focused on 1 Enemy: 400 Points of Damage
Holy Ball's Damage to the same enemy when its MT: 300 Points of Damage
Thus, 300/400= 3/4, and that leads us to MT Spells being 3/4 the power 
of the same spell under same situation when its ST.
 
NOTE: When I say MT and ST here, I mean what form they are being used 
in.  If your using an MT Level 1, for example, on ONE enemy, than its 
considered an ST spell.  When people refer to a spell as "MT Shurikens" 
for example, it means that if you so please, you can have the spell hit 
ALL enemies, but you don't have to if you'd rather deal more damage to 
one enemy.

Lets show use an example:
Suppose you cast a spell that does 400 points of damage to 1 enemy.  
Your Character learns to MT that spell, yet does not raise the Stat 
that Effects the Spell.  You now try it on a group of 3 of those 
enemies; it would do 300 points of damage.  Now, these are estimates, 
but they are relatively Accurate, though.

Now there are a few Spells I left out, but that's because either I 
can't figure out the Equation, or had not have had a chance to test the 
spells.  In an Update, they will most likely be there.

And lastly, there's one Unique Attack Spell of them all: Half Vanish.
Like all other RPGs with Spells that do damage based off HP%, Half 
Vanish is no exception. 
Half Vanish ignores the entire above Equation that all other Attack 
Spells follow, and proceeds with the following Equation: 
Damage = Current HP/2

NOTE: AGL spells are effected MAG DEF and DEF increases/decreases, 
despite what the calculations might let you believe.  DEF apparently 
only decreases by 1/6 for THESE purposes w/ AGL spells, as oppose to 
the usual 1/3 (see below for more detail), haven't quite figured out 
how MAG DEF affects the spells, though.  Also, oddly, Heal Light, which 
isn't affected, by any form of MAG DEF actually lowers when you raise 
MAG DEF (and conversely, raises if MAG DEF is lowered in battle) in 
battle.  Not sure why this is, for either case, but it MIGHT be do to a 
bug or shoddy programming, but don't want to make any immediate 
assumptions.
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7. Support Spells and Effects Calculations
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In this game, certain Spells or Items Actually raise your Stats or 
lower the Enemies.  The spells that do so are:
The Spells Lise Learns as a Valkyrie are SUs 
The Spells Lise Learns as a Rune Maiden are SDs
The Spell Magic Shield Learned by the Bishop (Carlie's LL class) is an 
SU
Pressure Point learned by Kevin's Light Classes is an SU
All spells the Ninja Learns (Hawk's Dark Class) have SD side effects to 
them
The Spell Black Curse used by the Necromancer (Carlie's Dark Light) is 
an SD
Demon Breath used by the Evil Shaman (Carlie's Dark Dark) has SD side 
effects to them

The concept behind SU's and SD's and how much they raise them by is 
rather simple.  Take the current Stat it's raising (IE ATK PWR for PWR 
Up and Pressure Point) and raise it by 1/3.  So if your character has a 
DEF of 300, and you use Protect up on him/her, then that character now 
has a DEF of 400
NOTE: Max Def applies to Armor Only; SU's can let that character exceed 
that max Def temporarily
SD's work the exact same way, only Subtract 1/3 of the Stat instead of 
adding 1/3 of the stat.  For instance, you have a MAG DEF of 99, and 
some one casts Mind Down on you (lowers MAG PWR and MAG DEF), that 
character now has a MAG DEF of 66.
All Stat Changes do not matter whether they are MT or ST, they will 
always raise the Stats by the same amount.  Also, as I said before, 
they will last until Nullified, Countered with the Opposite effect, 
character/enemy dies, or battle ends.  Also, MT Spells are NOT Cast any 
slower than the ST version of the spell.
NOTE: NO stat spell affects stats like STR or INT, just the stats 
altered by them.


Now, the Next SU's and SD's that are going to be discussed are the ones 
that Alter HP.  3 Spells/Skills do so: Lunatic (Lowers), Deadly Weapon 
(lowers) and Life Booster (Raises) The amount they Raise the Stat by is 
1/5 only, though, and the effect Does Wear Off over time, unlike the 
other Stat Effecting Spells which last until the Battles over, the 
Effects are nullified through Star dust herbs, Anti Magic, or the 
spells Opposite (IE Speed Down Overrides Speed Up if cast Second, and 
vice Versa) or if the character dies.  These spells were off in the 
same way, but last a limited time as well.  Also, if a characters HP is 
lowered and his Current HP is Higher than that of his NEW max HP, his 
HP drops to the Current Max.

Now, Kevin's WF.  Some people believe Kevin gets a HUGE increase in all 
stats when he turns into a Werewolf.  Well, its true he is stronger, 
but only in the respect to his ATK PWR, the other stats remain the 
same.  The amount Kevin's ATK PWR raises is equal to that of 1/7 of his 
total (in other words, roughly 1.14 x Base ATK PWR)
Also, Note that all Wolves are pretty much the same.  There is no 
difference in power between Kevin's Werewolf, Black Fang, Bloody Wolf, 
Wolf Devil, Golden Wolf, and Silver Wolf forms as far as power 
increase.  The only difference is what they look like.  The monster 
equivalents, on the other hand, are a different story.
Also, all SDs and SUs that were on Kevin before he transformed are 
negated, and his stats go to his base stats, so unless the battle 
happens to change from Day to Night during a fight (There are times 
this happens, and be thankful when they do :P), and Kevin Transforms 
mid battle, wait til Kevin transforms before beefing his stats up, as 
otherwise, it'd be a wasted effort.  Also, I think its true in reverse, 
where if WF Kevin has some sort of SD or SU on him, and he transforms 
back to his human form, those increases/decreases in stats will be 
negated as well.

BUG ALERT:  Apparently, when Kevin is in WF, after he takes one hit, 
his ATK PWR rises by 1/3, just like if he had Pressure Point or Power 
Up cast on him.  Now, I highly doubt that Square meant for this to 
happen, so it's probably a bug in the game.  So, if I say the "Kevin 
Bug" this is what I am referring to.
Example:
Class: God Hand (Light Light) with the Aura Glove (strongest Weapon for 
the God Hand) at MAX STR (18).
ATK PWR as a human=287
ATK PWR after transformation=330
ATK PWR after being hit once in Wolf Form=440

Now, here's something you might have not expected.  Duran's, Carlie's, 
and Kevin's Magic Sabers DO raise your ATK PWR.  When cast, they not 
only give the elemental or Rasping attribute to your saber, but they 
also give a slight boost in power.  A saber raises the effected 
Character's ATK PWR by 1/10 of their base.  But, if a Power Up spell is 
cast, then this little increase is nullified.  If cast the Saber is 
Cast after the Power Up spell, then the Power Up spell is nullified and 
the 1/10 increase appears.  Confused?  Well, maybe an example might 
help.
Character used: Lise Vanadis (LL) with True Spear (Strongest Weapon for 
the Vanadis) and MAX STR (20)
Base ATK PWR=316
ATK PWR after a Saber is cast=348
ATK PWR after SU is cast=421
ATK PWR when Saber is Cast after SU=348
ATK PWR when the reverse of above happens=421

So, as a little tip, if you want to Use both a Saber and a Power Up 
spell or item, cast the Saber and then the SU.
Also, because of the fact that a Magic Saber raises your ATK PWR, this 
might explain why enemies like Dark Lords or Papa Potos cast Elemental 
Sabers on themselves when they can't benefit from the elemental 
attribute.  Of course, it is easy to see why those Swords (forgot their 
name, will appear in an update) in Dark Palace cast Leaf or Moon Saber 
from that, since they can benefit from the Absorption Powers the Spell 
gives.

Now, for an explanation about the Elemental Factors of Sabers and 
stuff.
Saint Saber: Weapon becomes Holy Elemental 
Diamond Saber: Weapon becomes Earth Elemental
Thunder Saber: Weapon becomes Thunder/Wind Elemental
Flame Saber: Weapon becomes Fire Elemental
Ice Saber: Weapon becomes Ice/Water Elemental
Dark Saber: Weapon becomes Dark Elemental
Moon Saber: Weapon heals users HP equal to about %15 of Damage dealt
Leaf Saber: Weapon heals users MP equal to about %15 of Damage dealt 
(and no, it doesn't steal MP from your enemies)

With the first 6 sabers, the "Basic" elementals, so to speak, if the 
enemy is weak vs. that Element, than Damage is doubled.  If enemy 
Absorbs that element, than damage is basically equal to 0, just they 
make it look realistic by having the enemy hurt by the weapon (Purple 
Numbers), but healed by the element (Yellow Numbers, in this case, 
Identical to the previous ones), canceling each other out.  Otherwise, 
damage is not changed at all.
Moon Saber is altered only against a few select enemies (perfect 
example is Zable Fahr), where normally it does normal damage with a 
special HP healing power, however, to limit its power, some enemies are 
"Immune" to it, so to speak, and instead, take 1 point of damage (and 
your characters heal 1 point of HP as well) instead of the normal 
amount, whatever that is. 
Leaf Saber's damage is NEVER altered.  However, enemies immune to MP 
"Stealing" affects (Since MP is not actually stolen from the enemy, 
just added to your characters current amount) are also immune to Leaf 
Saber's special MP healing power, meaning your characters will LOSE MP 
instead restoring it.

NOTE: Apparently, against some enemies, a delayed reaction type affect 
occurs, sometimes, the spell doesn't last until AFTER a level 1 tech is 
used.  Its probably a minor glitch in the programming that happens 
SOMETIMES only, thank you Good Luck Die for finding this out.

Now, for Energy Ball.  Well, this Spell is SUPPOSED to raise your 
Critical Hit Rate.  Well, in a way it does, but in a way, like most 
people have experienced, it doesn't work.  I'd explain the process, but 
Alex Jackson, the man who discovered this Bug, can do it better:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From Alex Jackson:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There's a byte in the character status data structure that is normally 
equal to the character's Luck, but when you cast Energy Ball it shoots 
up to 50. Presumably this byte is supposed to be the character's 
critical hit rate. However, it doesn't seem to have any actual effect. 
Even if you modify it to 255 you'll still only see critical hits once 
in a blue moon. I can only assume that due to a bug the game ends up 
testing some other byte instead of this one, and the byte it does test 
is one whose value is almost but not quite always zero.

My Personal Thoughts: What can I say?  Finally, somebody figured out 
WHY Critical Hits almost Never Appear, and why Energy Ball never seems 
to work.  It was because of a Bug, not because of Bad Programming (ok, 
a Bug is Bad Programming, but its not on purpose), but anyway.  The 
Bottom Line is don't bother Casting Energy Ball regardless of 
Circumstances (unless you wanna see the spells animation, but its best 
to wait until AFTER battle to do that...)

Counter Magic: 
Counter Magic is similar to Reflect Spell from other RPGs, but it's not 
completely the same.  It makes it so Certain Attack Spells (not all) 
will NOT affect the character with this Spell on.  Like SU's and SD's 
this effect is permanent until some sort of Nullifier (Anti Magic, Star 
Dust Herb, Character dying, etc.) is placed on them, or the Battle 
Ends.
The status allows the spell to be reflected with decreased Damage (1/4, 
I believe, but not certain), and as Non-elemental damage.  Thus, at 
worst, you'll be dealing 0 Damage to an enemy.
Here are a Few Spells Counter Magic Does NOT Repel: 
Most Enemy Only Attacks
Ultimate Spells like Ancient
Healing Spells
All Support Spells
Death Spell
Death Roulette
Turn Undead
Throwing and Trap Spells
Summons

If an attack spells has a Side effect of either Status Effects or SDs, 
then those effects will also be reflected back at the user.  So if you 
were to cast, say, Stun Wind (Level 3 Thunder/Wind spell, also adds 
"Silence" to the enemy) on a Power Boulder (innate Counter Magic 
Status), not only would Angela feel the brunt of her spell back at her 
(or at least a portion of it), but she would be silenced as well.
Lastly, certain enemies have innate Counter Magic Effect on them, some 
have it specialized to certain elements, others have the general 
effect.  A few examples of these are: 
Arch Demon both Forms (which Color and Form depicts which element)
Koren (Randomly Changes which Elements)
Power Boulder (All Elements, I believe)

Interesting Fact: Apparently, some enemies like Mispolm and such, who 
cast Counter Magic on themselves, for some reason, cannot repel spells 
of the Dark Element, most notably, Dark Force.  Its not that their 
Counter Magic doesn't work, as the other elements are repelled, 
including ones they are weak against, so I'm guessing it's a bug of 
some sort, especially since your characters are protected vs. all 
elements, including dark, when Counter Magic is cast.

Aura Wave: 
Aura Wave does a total of ONE thing, and that's filled your Tech Gauge 
to its current max.  In other words, if your best Tech is level 2, your 
Tech Gauge gets filled to Level 2.  Lasts until Anti Magic or Star Dust 
is used on character, Character uses the tech, or the Battle Ends.  

Transparent: 
When the spell "Transhape" is cast, or a Dryad Statue is used for that 
matter, a character becomes Transparent.  This effect is temporary, and 
can also be nullified by Star Dust and Anti Magic.  This effect allows 
you to nullify enemy's regular attacks and level 1 techs, but leaves 
your character still as vulnerable as usual to Magic Attacks and Level 
2/3 techs.

Casting: 
This status effect happens whenever a character is casting a spell.  
When under the Casting status, the character becomes motionless, and 
the only way to stop the effect is the finish the spell.  Characters 
under the Casting status are immune to pretty much all Negative Status 
effects (even death to an extent), don't flinch like normal from 
physical attacks, and you can't access their ring menu.  If the 
character you control is under the Casting status, you can't switch 
character to control another until the spell is done.

Negative Status Effects:
Here is a list of the Negative Status effects and what they do: 

NOTE: You can have only 1 negative Status effect on at a time, which is 
how the Chibiko Hammer Trick (use the Hammer 2x on a character, and the 
effect is Negated) Also, any effect with a * by them indicates the Oath 
Shield CAN protect against them. 

*Poison: HP slowly decreases.  Lasts character is Healed, Dies, or 
Battle Ends.  Indicated by small green bubbles above person's head.

*Chibiko: Character can't use ANY Techs and physical attacks do 1 point 
of Damage (Magic Spells are still usable though).  Lasts until 
Character is Healed, Dies, or Battle Ends.  Indicated by character 
being Small.

*Moogle: Character can't use Any Attacks, Spells, or Techs, and the 
only action that can be performed is the Item Command.  Lasts until 
Character is healed, die, or Battle ends.  Indicated by Characters 
becoming weird Teddy Bear Like Creatures with Wings

*Sleep: Character becomes temporarily inactive in battle, and if other 
Characters are playable (Not dead, petrified, Sleeped, or Snow Man), 
then you gain control of one of them.  Lasts until character gets hit 
physically, is healed, dies, battle ends, or effect wears off after 
some time (whichever comes first in otherwords)  Indicated by character 
laying on the ground with Z's coming out of their mouth.

Silence: Character cannot use Spells/Skills or Level 2/3 Techs.  Lasts 
until character is healed, die, or battle ends.  Indicated by a Quote 
bubble with a "..." in it.

Snow Man: Character becomes temporarily inactive in battle.  Lasts 
until character dies, is healed, battle ends, or effect wears off over 
time (whatever comes first) Indicated by character becoming a Snow Man 
that resembles a Duck of some sort.

Petrify: Character becomes inactive in battle, and loses half their 
Current HP.  Lasts until character is healed, or battle ends.  If all 
characters are Petrified or Dead, then it's game over.  Indicated by 
character being turned to Stone.
NOTE: Petrify on enemies' yields the same effect as killing them; 
essentially, on the ones it works anyway.

Dead: Character's HP becomes 0 and they become COMPLETELY inactive 
during battle.  If all Characters are Dead or Petrified, then it's game 
over.  Lasts until Battle Ends, or an Angel Grail is used.  If the 
Former, Character comes back to life with 1 HP.

Shell Hunter: Character becomes a small little turtle like thingy that 
has decreased ATK PWR and cannot use Spells or Techs.  Lasts until 
Healed, Character dies, or battle ends.  Only effects enemies, and 
replaces the Chibiko Status.  Enemies killed in the Shell Hunter Status 
give minimal money, and 0 EXP, regardless of level.

The following are the ways to heal Status Effects besides Dead: 
-Have another Status Effect hit the character, which will nullify the 
first, and the 2nd will take its place.  
NOTE: This still holds true with the Oath Shield Equipped; however, the 
only difference is that the 2nd Status Effect does NOT occur.
-Puipui Grass heals all status effects
-Using a Stardust Herb heals ALL Status effects and Stat Changes with 
the exception of HP Down and Casting, I believe
-Anti Magic nullifies all Status Effects and Stat Changes, with the 
exception of Casting.
-Mama Poto Oil heals all negative status effects, and can be MT
-The Tinkle Rain spell used by Carlie (all Classes) and Duran's Lord 
class heals all Negative Status Effects
-Bottle of Salts are an FS item that heals from all negative status 
effects.

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8. Recover Rates and Spell Casting Times
----------------------------------------

This Section is dedicated completely to how long spells take to cast, 
and how what determines the casting time, as well as Character's 
Recovery Rates with Physical Attacks. First, I'm gonna start with the 
Latter.

This part is easy.  If you've read in other Faqs, you might have 
noticed they mention Duran Swinging Slower than Other Characters, but 
they never mention how fast the Other Characters swing, right?  Well, 
there's a good reason for this.  The fact is, Duran is ONLY slow in 
their Minds.  It's most likely a Psychological Thing.  Anyway, truth be 
told, ALL Classes and ALL Characters have the same Recovery Time 
between Attacks, regardless.  There are a few things that make 
Characters SEEM to attack faster than others, though, and those are: 
NOTE: These are Facts, yes, on what effects Recovery Rate or related 
things, but only speculations on how the Rumor gets started and is 
believed.
 
1. If a Character is attacked while in Recovery Pose, or they do their 
Mid-air Evade Maneuver (IE Hawk Flipping, Duran Jumping, etc.) so to 
speak, it will cause the Recovery Counter to Restart.  I assume that 
with Duran, he gets hit Often since they bring him close up into the 
Fighting spray, and thus, gets hit a lot.

2. They neglect to take into Account that Hawk and Kevin hit 2x on 
every regular attack they pull off successfully.  This is probably why 
the above reason never seems to apply to them.  With Carlie and Angela, 
they don't care since they are not Fighters, but with Lise, I'm not 
quite sure, possibly because they don't view her as much of a Fighter 
either, so don't expect much.

3. Its psychological.  Duran's ready pose is him holding his Sword Up, 
however, his Recovery Pose is DRASTICALLY different, where he's 
dragging his Sword on the ground.  This drastic change in stance might 
yield people to believe that he swings slower, since its more 
noticeable, where as the other Characters, their Recovery Poses are 
marginally different than there Ready Poses.

Also, here's a Theory Submitted by Darrien on the Whole Subject: 
NOTE: This is a LONG theory.
Alright, before anyone groans in disgust or posts a flame: No, I did 
not create this topic to continue that "disassembled code" argument. I 
have a theory that I'd like some people to help me test out, which I 
think might solve this matter once and for all. 

~~~~~~~~~~~~
From Darrien
~~~~~~~~~~~~

I believe that many people are claiming certain characters are slow 
because they're making a critical mistake in playing them. Do not jam 
on your attack button in the heat of battle, and do not try to swing 
when you are in the middle of being hit by an enemy. If you do, then 
you yourself are actually slowing the character's attack speed. Why is 
this? Because every time you push the attack button while your 
character is in the middle of being hit, he or she has to start the 
recovery process all over again. 
 
I think this is what's happening to a lot of people and causing them to 
think certain characters are slower in battle. If anyone wants to try 
it out, take any character in the game and let them get into a ready 
attack mode. Allow them to be hit by the enemy, and while they're in 
the "hit" animation (you know, the way they're shaking and shuddering 
from the blow), push your attack button. If you did it correctly, 
you'll see that the character will not attack at all, he will simply go 
into his "tired" phase as if he did attack. This is because the game 
registers that you attacked, but the attack was canceled out by the 
"hit" animation. This same thing will also happen sometimes if you push 
your level 1 tech button while you're in the "hit" animation. Your 
meter will stay full, the attack will not be performed, and your 
character will go straight to "tired" mode. (Note: Techs can be 
affected by this, but it does not seem to happen as often as it does 
with regular attacks). 
 
Note: if you hit your attack button just before the enemy's hit 
connects or just after you've gotten out of the "hit" animation, you 
will either go through with your attack and just take the damage 
without flinching, or your character will do the "hit" animation and 
then perform the attack immediately afterward. 
 
This, I believe, is the reason why it looks like there's a difference: 
Double-hit characters naturally get their attacks off more quickly 
since they have to fit 2 attack animations into the time it takes other 
characters to do 1 attack animation. This makes it easier for them to 
get attacks off in between enemy hits, and it makes them less likely to 
be interrupted. On the other hand, a single-hit character who swings 
less often and has one full-length attack animation is more likely to 
be hit just before the player pushes the button. This results in 
irritating "lost" attacks and what appears to be a ridiculously long 
recovery phase. 
 
You might wonder, what are the odds of someone hitting the attack 
button in the middle of this hit animation? It seems to happen more 
often than one would think. Anyone who rapidly pushes the A button 
during battles is especially susceptible to it. 
 
Well, anyway, this is just something I tested out, and I'm not trying 
to declare it as law or anything, but I would really appreciate it if 
some others here would try it out as well. So far, I've tested this out 
with Duran, Kevin, and Hawk. I'm going to retest this with them and try 
some of the other characters to follow up.

Personal Thoughts on Theory: This is VERY plausible Actually, and might 
explain why this common error of opinion exists, since it IS possible 
that many people just SPAM the A button when playing this game.  Not 
sure if its true or not, and if so, to how many people it applies, but 
nonetheless, a possible Solution to this problem.

Now, On to Spell Casting Time!
Let me warn you first.  These are not 100% accurate.  I measured them 
using a Stop Watch.  I started the stop watch right after the screen 
went back to Normal when I chose the spell (the ring menu completely 
gone) and stopped it when the spell was started (that includes when 
Angela or whoever summons the spirit use it.  That is part of the 
spell, so it does not count in the time it takes to cast it.) So if 
they're a little off, this is why.  I am only human, and can't get 
things exact.  
 
First off, what determines the time it takes to cast a spell?  Well, 
there are several things.  First off, the kind of spell being cast is 
the biggest factor.  The Character casting it is another factor.  If 
the different characters can cast the same spell, then the speed of the 
spell is dependant on which character is casting it.  The last factor 
is what class the character that casting it is in.  Now, let me warn 
you, it does not mean what you may think at first.  By class, I mean 
First Class, Second Class, and Final Class.  If Final Classes share a 
certain Spell, providing it's of the same character, they both will 
cast it at equal times.  

If, say, someone claims the Arch Mage casts Saint Beam faster than the 
Rune Master can cast Dark Force, they are wrong.  They are Both Level 2 
Elementals, and both classes are Final Classes of Angela's, so the 
casting time is exactly the same.  If it appears faster, there are few 
things that could cause this: 

A. A Tech or Spell was pulled off during the casting time, which causes 
a delay in the spell time.  Though the spell will the usual amount of 
Active Time (the time you can control your characters in other words), 
it will look longer, since the enemy or another character has done some 
fancy animation in between.

B. Its Psychological.  This is just like the case with Duran having a 
slower recovery rate than the other characters.  Looks can deceive, and 
things may only appear to be done a certain way because of what they 
are (Like Dark Force is a more complicated spell animation than Saint 
Beam, and thus, it may seem to take longer to cast, but it actually 
takes the same amount of time)

C. If a character is attacked by Normal Attacks (attacks that don't 
pause the action like Spells or Level 2/3 techs), and they take damage, 
it will apparently increase the time by a bit needed to pull of the 
spell.  This is probably where the myth of classes of the same 
Character which are both the same kind of Class (FC or 2nd Class in 
other words) take longer to cast spells than others.  This is the ONLY 
case where spell Times are delayed, and it applies for ALL classes by 
the same amount.

Finally, whether a Spell is MT or not does not change a thing.  The 
Disadvantage to an MT version of a spell, remember, is that it has 
reduced the damage as opposed to if it was ST.  Spell casting time is 
exactly the same, in other words, if the spell is ST and MT.

Ok, now I know you're dying to see how long it takes to cast spells, 
and without Further Delay (yes I know, I am delaying you, sorry), I 
bring you the Spell Times.

All spells times are listed in seconds.  Thus, the number "3.0" means a 
spell takes 3 seconds to cast.  If no time is listed after spell, 
assume I haven't tested them yet (at least when this FAQ was posted)  
If there is a spell I completely neglected, then E-mail me and I will 
try my best to get back to you.

*Angela*
Level 1 Elementals:
Magician - 3.5
Sorcerress/Delvar - 2.0
Grand Divina/Magus/Arch Mage/Rune Master - 1.25

Level 2 Elementals:
Sorcerress/Delvar - 4.0
Grand Divina/Magus/Arch Mage/Rune Master - 2.25

Double Spell: Grand Divina - 3.0
Rainbow Dust: Arch Mage - 3.0
Level 3 Elementals: Rune Master - 3.5
Death Spell: Rune Master - 3.25
Ancient: Magus - 4.0


*Carlie*
Heal Light:
Cleric - 1.25
Priestess/Enchantress - 0.75 
Bishop/Sage/Necromancer/Evil Shaman - 0.00 
(No, that is NOT a Typo, once Carlie reaches her FC, she casts Heal 
Light INSTANTANEOUSLY!)

Sabers:
Priestess - 2.67
Bishop/Sage/Necromancer - 2.25

Holy Ball: 
Priestess - 1.75
Bishop/Sage - 1.25

Tinkle Rain:
Cleric - 2.0
Priestess/Necromancer - 1.67
Bishop/Sage/Necromancer/Evil Shaman - 1.0

Unicorn Head:
Enchantress - 1.25
Necromancer/Evil Shaman - 0.67

Machine Golem:
Enchantress - 1.75
Necromancer/Evil Shaman - 1.25

Turn Undead: Bishop - 0.75
Magic Shield: Bishop - 2.0
Saint Beam: Sage - 2.25
Black Curse: Necromancer - 3.25
Ghoul: Necromancer - 1.75
Ghost: Necromancer - 2.25
Gremlin: Evil Shaman - 2.0
Great Demon: Evil Shaman - 2.5
Demon Breath: Evil Shaman - 1.25
Anti Magic: Evil Shaman - 2.5

*Duran*
Heal Light:
Knight - 1.75 
Paladin/Lord - 1.25

Tinkle Rain: Lord - 2.0

Sabers: 
Gladiator - 3.75
Paladin/Sword Master/Duelist - 3.0

*Hawk*
Shurikens:
Ninja - 1.33
Ninja Master/Night Blade - 0.75

Justus: 
Ninja - 2.33
Ninja Master/Night Blade - 2.0

Arrows:
Ranger - 1.5
Wanderer/Rogue - 1.25

Spikes:
Ranger - 2.0
Wanderer/Rogue - 1.75
Body Change:
Ranger - 2.5
Wanderer/Rogue - 2.0

Sleep Flower:
Ranger - 2.75
Wanderer/Rogue - 2.25

Transhape: Wanderer - 2.0
Counter Magic: Wanderer - 3.75
Poison Bubble: Wanderer - 3.5
Lunatic: Wanderer - 3.5
Life Booster: Wanderer - 3.0
Energy Ball: Wanderer - 3.75
Half Vanish: Wanderer - 2.5
Aura Wave: Wanderer - 2.5
Rock Fall: Rogue - 2.33
Land Mine: Rogue - 3.33
Silver Dart: Rogue - 0.75
Cresent: Rogue - 0.75
Rocket Launcher: Rogue - 0.75
Axe Bomber: Rogue - 0.75
Cutter Missile: Rogue - 0.75
Grenade Bomb: Rogue - 0.75
Flame Breath: Night Blade - 3.0
Poison Breath: Night Blade - 3.0
Deadly Weapon: Night Blade - 3.0
Blow Needles: Night Blade - 3.0
Black Rain: Night Blade - 1.25
(And yes, Hawk was a pain in the ass to do -_-, especially the Spells 
that Target enemies)

*Kevin*
Pressure Point: 
Monk - 2.0
God Hand/Warrior Monk - 1.25

Heal Light: 
Monk - 1.75
God Hand/Warrior Monk - 1.25

Sabers: Warrior Monk/Dervish - 3.0
Energy Ball: Death Hand - 4.75
Aura Wave: God Hand - 2.75

*Lise*
Stat Ups:
Valkyrie - 
Vanadis/Star Lancer - 1.67

Stat Downs: 
Rune Maiden - 
Dragon Master/Fenrir Knight - 1.67

Freya: Vanadis - 3.25
Marduke: Star Lancer - 3.25
Jormungand: Dragon Master - 3.25
Lamia Naga: Fenrir Knight - 3.25

BUG ALERT: This is one very famous and often abused Bug.  For some 
reason, whenever you open the Ring Menu or somebody else casts a Spell 
or Uses a Tech, the Spell counter still goes down as if the action was 
still being used.  Normally, it's supposed to STOP the timer until you 
exit the Ring Menu or the Spell/Tech has finished its animation, 
depending on which situation it is.  However, it just keeps going.
This is often called by people the "Spam Magic Trick" or the "Chain 
Casting Trick" Notice how they say "Trick" instead of "Bug" Personally, 
I try to avoid using either as much as possible.

PQ: What are "Spam Magic" and "Chain Casting?"

A: These are 2 "Tricks" that involve taking advantage of a Bug.  Spam 
Magic is DELIBERATLY opening your Ring Menu, letting it sit there for a 
little while, and closing it after some time passes, thus allowing 
Spells like Ancient in virtually NO Active time whatsoever.  Chain 
Casting is having Characters cast several spells in a row, the first 
one being a spell that is pulled off relatively fast, but not instantly 
(like Shurikens for example), by doing so, it will have the same effect 
as Spam Magic, however, instead of cheaply casting a Long Spell OVER 
AND OVER again instantly, its casting several spells at once with 
virtually no time in between each spell.
Now, Spam Magic is down right cheating, IMHO.  This is because its 100% 
avoidable.  There are rare situations where you cast a spell and need 
to open the ring Menu to use an item or of some sort, and by accident 
and ignorantly, imply this trick, but that's usually not the case.  I 
recommend that if you CAN avoid this trick, do so.  It takes away a 
good deal of the challenge from this game.
Chain Casting is not as much cheating as Spam Magic, since it's harder 
to employ.  If you do it all the time, that's abusing it, which is just 
like cheating.  But I can't blame you for doing so.  Chain Casting is 
sometimes unavoidable, since we don't know what the enemies going to do 
and such, and that could cause you to pull off such a trick by 
accident.

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9.Miscellaneous Q&A
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As the name of this section implies, it's done entirely in Question and 
Answer format.  The answers, though, are much longer than one might 
expect in a section such as this, but they're basically topics that 
either weren't big enough to have a section of their own, couldn't fit 
them in the FAQ any other way, or are just plain curious questions that 
some have brought up.  And some may even be just some random FAQs I 
through in there for the fun of it :P

PQ: Ahh! I cast Poison Bubble on Dark Lich to restore Hawk's MP, but 
his MP went DOWN!  WTF happened? Is my game Messed up?

A. No, your game is fine, don't worry.  Since Leaf is not an actual, 
element, so to speak, it can't be absorbed.  However, several Leaf 
Elemental attacks absorb MP, so for enemies with Leaf Elemental 
immunity, so to speak, instead of healing from the attack, will cause 
your Characters to lose MP when as oppose to gaining it.  

PQ: I built my Tech Gauge up, but all of a sudden it dropped down to 1, 
and I didn't even use a tech at all.  What happened? 
 
A: This is a relatively frequent glitch, and annoying as well.  
Sometimes, for no reason whatsoever, the game will lower your Tech 
gauge to 1.  This seems to happen most vs. Arch Demon, though, so it 
might just be a spell of some sort he casts that has the Side Effect 
but haven't discovered it *Shrugs*

PQ: How come you neglected that VIT effects HP when raised?  I think 
that's something important, don't you? 
 
A.  Well, not really.  The reason being that raising VIT affects HP in 
a VERY slight matter.  Every Character gets a Certain HP Progression, 
Kevin having the Highest and Angela the lowest.  The characters in 
between are directly related to who has the Higher VIT.  However, 
raising VIT raises your HP only by 3 Points every 2 points you raise 
VIT (or, in other words, some levels its 2 points per VIT, while some 
its 1 point per VIT), regardless of character.  Many people think that 
by Raising VIT they can solve their Low HP problems with Angela, 
however, at best, they can only raise her HP 16 points, since that's 
the possible amount you can Raise Angela's VIT.  Allow me to also Point 
at that because Stats MAX OUT when you CC from the Previous Class, if 
that character has not MAXed out his/hers VIT, and thus, not gotten the 
HP benefits, he/she will get the HP instantly right after CC.  So, to 
sum it up, VIT effects HP ONLY in the Short Run, and by a small amount 
of 2 Points of VIT = 3 Extra Points of HP, and they WON'T effect 
overall HP progression.  A character at level 58 who reached MAX VIT 
early will have the same HP as the same character at Level 58 who 
reached MAX VIT at THAT Level, no exceptions.
So basically, if your raising VIT for HP reasons, then you should 
really consider putting investment into another stat, since VIT and HP 
are related by such a small amount its not worth a Level, unless your 
doing MASS VIT upgrades where the cumulative effect my be overall worth 
it.

PQ: What about MP?  What affects that? 
 
A: MP progression I believe is based off the characters SPR and INT at 
a rate of 2 points of INT or SPR (or a combo of both) yields 1 extra 
point in SPR.  I believe that all characters, otherwise, have the same 
MP progression.  Despite what this seems, all classes of the same 
character will have the same MP progression, as the case with ALL 
Classes for each character in the game, if one class has higher SPR, 
then it has lower INT (this is why Carlie and Angela always have 
highest MP.  They get an extra 20 MP total that the others don't get, 
and thus, they reach the 99 MP limit before Level 50 w/out much 
problem)  Confused?  Well, lets give a quick example.  Angela's Magus 
Class has her highest INT w/ 22, but lowest SPR with 18, while on the 
Flip side, The Arch Mage has Angela's lowest INT but highest SPR, both 
being at 20.  Notice how the Arch Mage lost 2 points in INT but gained 
2 points in SPR?  I believe Square worked it this way so perfectly just 
for simplicity with MP progression (supported by the idea that all 
classes of same character have same Max VIT ratings.) Either that, or 
its just some random coincedence...

PQ: What does Luck do?  Everyone tells me that it raises your Critical 
Hit Rate and Chances of OKs in a Treasure Chest, but is that all it 
does?  If it is, isn't a useless stat? 

A: This is something that people often ask.  Pretty Much everyone knows 
luck does two Things: 
Effects the rate of Critical Hits, albeit, not a lot.
Effects how many OK's (The Higher the Luck, the more OK's) that appear.

Now, Luck does MORE than just those two.  In fact, its much more useful 
than people give it credit for.
For one thing, Luck also determines the rate you get the rarer items 
from an enemy.

NOTE: I don't take advantage of Save States like that.  If you use a 
Save State, the random number that decides which item its going to be 
changes if you save and open right before you start to open the box.  
For those people who do this, I consider you cheaters.  So for me, this 
aspect of Luck is useful.

Next off, Luck does stuff in battle.  That's right, it does.
There are certain enemies (non bosses) that can use Magic and Level 2/3 
techs.  They'll either use them as Counter Attacks or just on a Whim. 
Now, with the Single Target attacks, the Higher Luck the character has, 
the less likely they are to be hit with a spell like that.
Now, I noticed this in Navarre again (I was playing an SCC with both 
Classes (2 different games, of course)) My Ninja Hawk was being hit 
with the Lesser Demon's Dark Force every so often, but it was not like 
every single fight I had with them.  Now, with Rune Maiden Lise, she 
was getting hit with Dark Force every other fight with those demons.  
And I was not using any spells.

When it comes to MT attacks, I believe its Based on the Teams Average 
Luck.  When it's the Team in general, or just those remaining, I am not 
sure.  If you can help me on this, please contact me in some way.

Now, regarding Counter Attacks, here's how it works.
Counter attacks happen ONLY on spells and Level 2/3 techs, not on 
Skills (the Rogue's Throwing Weapons are an example of Skills).  At 
least to my experiences any way.  Whether the Tech or Spell is 
Multitarget, it doesn't matter.  They all counter attack based one 
thing: 
Who was the Character that hit it with the spell?
Now, a Character with High Luck has a safer bet of casting a Spell on 
an enemy like that without him getting royally POed, and hit you with 
an Attack that, in the long run, caused your attack to hurt you more 
than it hurt them.
A character with Low Luck, as you may have guessed, is more likely to 
get the Crap beat out of them if they cast a spell.  Fortunatly for us, 
the only Characters who will be casting Spells on a Regular Basis, 
Hawk, Carlie, and Angela (and maybe the Dragon Master (Lise's DL (The 
Light Lise Summons cause status effects that Nullify any chance to 
counter attack))), all of which have the Highest Luck.  Duran and 
Kevin, characters who have no Spells, have the lowest Luck.  But don't 
think they don't have to worry (well, with their High HP, they might 
not need to), as their Level 2/3 techs can still provoke a Counter 
Attack, albeit, the enemy will probably die on Contact by their techs 
anyway, so you won't have to worry that Much.

So, as you can see, unless your one of these people who fights using 
only Physical Characters and Level 1 techs, Luck actually is quite 
useful.  Trust me, this little stat can save you just when you least 
expect it.

Finally, Luck determines one other extra not quite as known factor.  
Sometimes, when your characters die, there's a small chance that your 
characters can actually be alive after taking a beating with 1 HP.  The 
rate at which this happens is based off Luck.  Its most noticed when 
your team is spammed with several level 3 techs, but somehow, one 
character survives w/ 1 HP (what's more, that character is someone like 
Carlie who has Low HP while the others was someone like Duran who has 
MUCH higher HP)

PQ: WTF Causes the Trap Wheel to spin slower?

A: Well, it wasn't till recently that I realized that the Trap wheel 
does have different speeds.  I always thought it was psychological due 
to the amount of OK's I get with Hawk that it seems to move slowly.  
Apparently, I was wrong. 
 
The speed of the Ring is dependent on one thing and one thing alone: 
AGL.
So, if you want to make sure you don't get killed by a Chest's Trap 
(Ogre Boxes and Kaiser Mimics anyone?) raise Agility to slow the Ring 
down and Luck to increase your chances of hitting an OK.

PQ: Wait, who exceeds in each of those Stats?  I want to know who to 
use to Open Chests?

A: Oh yeah, I guess I should have told you that as well, hehe... ::runs 
like crazy:: Anyhow, here's the Range for Agility of each Character 
(Initial -> Max): 
Hawk:   6 -> 22
Lise:   5 -> 20
Duran:  4 -> 19
Kevin:  3 -> 18
Angela: 2 -> 17
Carlie: 2 -> 17

For Luck on the Other Hand, its:
Hawk:   6 -> 22
Carlie: 5 -> 20
Angela: 4 -> 19
Lise:   3 -> 18
Duran:  2 -> 17
Kevin   2 -> 17

Thus, Hawk has the best chance of ANYONE to open a Chest without 
problems.  This is assuming you are raising his AGL and LUCK as much as 
the other characters.  Who is safer after that?  It all depends on what 
you value more, Speed or Quantity of OK's.

PQ: Why is Duran so SLOW when it comes to attacking?  It takes him 
forever to pull off one attack.  Looking at his AGL, he should have the 
3rd fastest swing, right?

A: He's not slow.  The only reason he SEEMS slower than the other 
characters is because he has the most noticeable Recovery Pose.  Most 
other Characters Battle and Recovery Poses are similar enough that they 
are not noticeable (IE Kevin always has his fists up and ready.  Just 
he puts them in a slightly different position in his Battle Pose as 
opposed to his Recovery pose) enough to make it seem to take a long 
time.  Duran, on the other hand, Drags his Sword around, and then lifts 
it high up.  To sum it up, it's a psychological thing that makes Duran 
take longer, or anyone else for that matter.
Another reason people think Duran is slow is because he's being 
compared to the other Males.  Now, the only reason Hawk and Kevin seem 
to hit more times is because, well, they do.  However, they attack just 
as many times and have the same time in between each attack as well. 

PQ: But that doesn't make any sense!  Your Crazy!

A: Yes, I am crazy, but back to this.  It does make sense, since Hawk 
and Kevin his 2x for every attack they make.  Duran, like the females, 
hits only once with his Big Heavy Sword.  Hawk (even if he does have a 
Swallow equipped, he'll look the same o.o) is using 2 single-handed 
weapons, allowing him to strike 2x with each.  Kevin uses his fists and 
legs as weapons, allowing him to hit 2x using 2 punches, or a Punch 
Kick combo or WHATEVER before needing to rest.  Duran's swing a rather 
Heavy Sword, which takes a lot out of him to swing it constantly w/out 
resting like Hawk and Kevin can do.  The Females as well are using 
rather heavy 2 Handed weapons (well Lise anyway.  Carlie and Angela 
aren't exactly the most physically fit) as well, so they need to 
recover after one swing too.

PQ: Ok, I am convinced that Duran is not slower, but how come he 
doesn't swing faster than Kevin, Angela, and Carlie if he has the 3rd 
highest AGL?  Isn't the stat that changes Attack Rates?

A. No, AGL does NOT affect Attack Rates (how often a character can 
attack) Believe or not, NOTHING determines Attack Rates except the game 
itself.  All Characters in EVERY class have the same Attack Rate as one 
another.  Even a Level 99 Ninja Master (AGL 22, the games highest) has 
the same Attack Rate as a Level 1 Cleric or Magician (AGL 2, games 
lowest), despite these VAST differences in AGL.  All characters will 
have the same amount of chances to attack the enemy.

However, there is something that does slow down Recovery Rate.
If your character is attacked while in his/her Recovery Pose, it 
lengthens the time it takes for them to get back into Battle Poses, 
just like how being attacked while your character is casting a spell 
lengthens the spells Casting time.  This is another place where Duran's 
slow recovery rate probably came from.  Duran probably got a bunch of 
hits fighting up close to the enemy, and that makes him take WAY longer 
to recover from his previous attack he made.  Kevin and Hawk probably 
don't seem to suffer under this since they hit 2x.  I don't know why 
this wouldn't make Lise seem to take Longer though, since she's got the 
situation as Duran essentially.  Carlie and Angela are probably not 
brought up since they are Mage characters, and people tend to not care 
about how they fair in comparison to the 4 fighters, since they are not 
supposed to be used for their physical power, but their Magic Skills.

PQ: Why did Square bother to put Accessories in this game?  They raise 
Defense stats by amounts that don't really matter much, and don't have 
any special effects.  Might as well have just made Headgear more 
expensive, yet yield greater upgrades, right?

A. Ah, well, no ones asked this (hence why its POTENTIAL), but its 
something I've been wondering for a while.  The truth is that Square 
originally intended Accessories to have some special effects, ranging 
from Elemental resistances (aka 1/3 damage decrease from that element), 
to Status Immunities (like the Oath Shield has), to raising your Vital 
Stats (ones you raise when you level up, like STR or Luck)  However, it 
appears that later in the programming, they decided not to, for 
whatever reason, and instead changed it to making such equipment just 
raise DEF and MAG DEF in the same Hats, Helmets, etc. do.  How do we 
know this?  Well, Alex Jackson (Whom I give thanks to again for 
discovering this and posting this on the SD3 Board) discovered that the 
game claims only Angela can equip it, can also be used by Carlie, just 
gotta change exchange the item through the not often used Weapon/Armor 
exchange screen (generally, I only use it when I get stuff for the 
Wrong character from Weapon Armor Seeds...)), and that led him to 
believe, from what I understand, that the Accessories had AT LEAST some 
ORIGINAL intention.  Apparently, Square got lazy, and instead of 
Deleting the info from the game, they simply programmed in another byte 
that nulls out the Accessories special affects.  Thus, Accessories are 
nothing more than extra Armor...
some Accessories can be equipped by Multiple Characters, just the game 
doesn't tell you (Example: Angela's Protect Ring, though when buying it 
But wait, that's not all.  Apparently, that extra programming did not 
apply to Status Immunities, for some odd reason.  Apparently, Shield's 
Special Effects are programmed the same way as Accessories, but the 
Oath Shield still works, while all the Elemental ones do not.  Well, in 
a game, I was fighting Gildervine, and Hawk was hit with many of 
Gildervine's Poisonous attacks (like Poison Bubble or Pollen Jet.  
Remember, if an attack CAN do a status effect, it works 100% of the 
time, not taking Status immunities into account), but not once did he 
get poisoned (Poison Bubble still hurt like a ***** though, but that's 
a different story), while Carlie and Kevin were being hit with them 
just once and got poisoned.  Hawk's Accessory was the Cobra Earrings, 
which are suppose to Protect against Poison Status, and apparently, 
they DO work, as Hawk was never poisoned with them on, but when I 
removed them for a "better" accessory, he was still getting poisoned.  
So, yeah, there are still a few Unique Accessories out there which DO 
have special effects, all of which are Status immunities, so if you 
want to, take the time to go out and experiment a bit with them and see 
what protects against what, and what is just plain a generic Defense 
boosting item...

PQ: Wait a minute!  I know you, you're the person who wrote that 
Hawkeye FAQ, right? 
 
A. Yep, it's the same guy.  I wrote the Hawkeye FAQ before this FAQ, as 
you might have guessed, and it was my first FAQ I've ever written.  If 
you need help with Hawkeye, check that FAQ, since I attempted to cover 
virtually EVERYTHING there was to cover about Hawk.  Just like if you 
questions about this FAQ, you can also E-mail me questions you have 
about Hawk that I didn't cover in my other FAQ that you were wondering 
about.

PQ: Hey, are you the same Meeple Lard who hangs around at the SD3 
boards and seems to never go away?  So that's how you know all this 
random info about the game!  When did you get inspired to write this?

A. Well, yes, I am the Insane Meeple Lard himself.  I do spend a lot of 
times at the boards; I am not ashamed to admit it.  I don't like to 
brag (Ok, maybe I do, but who cares at this point, right?) about my 
accomplishments and when I first decided to write this Faq, I mentioned 
it on the Board to see if people would find it interesting.  Most of 
them did.  I got inspired because at One point (any VET on the board in 
the Summer of 2001 will tell you this if you ask) one summer, when I 
was still a Newbee to the boards believe it or not, I had this phase 
where I was obsessed with the technical stuff and Mathematical 
Equations on the game works in some areas (I only knew ROUGH estimates 
back on spells (and I mean VERY rough), and how ATK PWR and Damage 
calculations were figured out) to help support my rants, and it seemed 
impossible to find a post where I didn't bring anything like this up.  
Eventually it stopped, but everyone who was there remembers this stuff.  
I then asked around if I should write this FAQ, and a lot of the 
Members thought of it as a good idea.  Also, I wanted to prove that 
some things aren't quite a big a deal as people claim they are, and 
expose some rumors as being RUMORS in subtle ways.

PQ: How did you find out how a lot of the above stuff worked?

A. Well, at first, I was just observant to the fact that Characters 
never did anything HIGHER than their ATK PWR.  Then, I noticed on a 
Transformed Shadow Zero they did Damage exactly equal to their ATK PWR 
minus the DEFENSE.  That's how I first discovered the damage 
calculations.  From there, it was all trial and error.  For the Weapon 
and Armor Calculations, though, I got most of that info by doing my 
Hawk Faq and getting all the Stastics (I played 2 games at once, one 
where Hawk was going towards to the Light, and the other towards the 
Dark so I could get ALL Weapons (I already had a File with the Ninja 
Master and Rogue already, so I only needed a file with Wanderer and 
Night Blade) statistics in a relatively short amount of time.  It was 
time consuming, no doubt about that.  However, through a lot of trial 
and error, I eventually got the statistics on Weapon and Armor, and was 
able to use that info to apply it in this FAQ.  The rest is through 
good old Trial and Error, and a lot of free time on my hands (I tend to 
lack a much needed life) 

PQ: How can I contribute to this Faq?

A:  Well, if you find something Related to this FAQ that's I neglected 
to put in, or you feel that I have a Mistake in here somewhere (that's 
not unlikely, so don't feel afraid to try and point one out), just E-
mail me at my address listed at the bottom of this FAQ.  If it's 
something worthy of going my FAQ, then I'll put it in and you'll get 
credit.  If your E-mailing me on how much you like/hate it, or are just 
trying to flame me, I won't put you in this FAQ, obviously.  Also, note 
that because I don't respond to your message doesn't mean your not 
being put in the FAQ, so if I don't respond after you sent it to me 2x 
(I say 2, because you may think I didn't get it the first time, which 
is reasonable), don't expect to get another response.

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10. Other Faqs to read
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Here are a list of Faqs that are really good IMO, not including my own.

First of all, if your looking for Good info on the Whole game it self, 
check out Ryu Seiryuu's Faq.  There are a lot of Faqs on the whole 
game, but his, IMO, is the best one out there.  His Faq is still being 
updated every now and then.  Now, what makes his Faq stand out is the 
Fact that he got other Board Members such as myself to give their 
opinions on stuff like Classes and Boss tactics, so you see multiple 
point of views.  As a person, he's perhaps the most respected member on 
the SD3 board, since he's been there a long time, knows a lot about the 
game, and shares his Knowledge with others to Help them, not to show 
off.  His Faq is truly worth Reading.

Next, Tw1light, a fellow board member and of Friend of mine on the 
boards too.  He created the first In Depth Character Faq.  His was on 
Duran, and he has finished it already.  He put everything he could 
about Duran in the Faq, and showed people that Duran DOES NOT suck like 
many people think.  I gave input to his Faq as well.  But he's done 
more.  He's also written a Single Character Challenge Faq for those who 
want a bit of a Challenge in the game.  GO there to get the Rules and 
tips for playing one.  I myself am constantly playing Through SCCs

Lord Zero is another Character Faq writer, and the one who inspired me 
to write my Hawk Faq.  He did a Faq on Lise in the same way Tw1light 
did one on Duran.  It's the best info you could find if you want to 
know everything you can about Lise and her classes.  He also included 
some Norse Mythology that relates to her.  For those who speak Spanish, 
he wrote a Spanish Faq for the game as well.  He's also a fellow Board 
Member, so expect to see him on the boards from time to time.

Now, an AIM friend of mine also wrote a Character Faq, his on Angela.  
His name is Thunda Snake.  His Faq is still in the early Stages, since 
it was written not too long ago, but its Still worth Reading.  But 
don't e-mail him saying the Grand Divina Sucks, as he likes that class 
a lot more than I like the Ninja Master.

Another Character Faq that is good to look at is Veib's Kevin Faq.  He 
did a good job on expanding the basic strategy of Kevin, "Beat Down all 
the enemies in your Path" into a well-developed Faq.  If you need good 
info on Kevin, then his Faq is definitely worth reading.

Anemo has written the Sixth Character Faq on Carlie, yet another Board 
Member.  This is the last Character FAQ made, and the one that everyone 
was waiting for the longest time to be created.  Anyway, I suggest 
Checking out this FAQ if you need help on how to use Carlie or you are 
convinced she's worthless and all.  I wouldn't suggest E-mailing him 
any ANTI Carlie letters, or even worse, ANTI Evil Shaman, since that's 
just asking for trouble, as he does like Carlie (he wouldn't have 
written the FAQ otherwise) a lot, like all us Character FAQ writers.  
Another worthwhile FAQ to read.

Absolute Zero, yet another Board Member has created 2 Challenge Faqs.  
His first is a Class Change Faq.  It's a Faq that involves a whole 
bunch of ways of playing through game using certain restrictions on 
which Classes you can use (For Example, not getting the Final Class 
Change is an example) Interested?  Check out the FAQ itself for more 
info.  The other is a Low Level Challenge Faq.  It basically is your 
usual Challenge Faq, with tips, hints, and rules for going about a 
Challenge.  As you might have guessed, this FAQ is on challenge of 
getting through the game as at low a level as possible.  Also sounds 
interesting?  Check that FAQ out as well if you feel bold enough for 
that challenge.

Also, if you want info on all the classes in the game and what's good 
about them all, check out GoodLuckDie's Class and Class Combination Faq 
(I think that's what its called) its very well done, and he shows how 
each class can be used well.  Not once does he say "So and So class is 
better than So and So" or things like that.  He looks at each Class 
Objectively (though, he's a little TOO positive about each class), so 
its good when you just want to see what the class is capable of.  Also, 
he does throw in whats wrong with the class in his Faq, but doesn't 
start Harping (is that the right word?) about how the class is bad 
because of this disadvantage, but rather, just bringing up a point that 
NO class is without disadvantages.  Anyway, if you want Class info, 
check out his Faq.

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11. Version History
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Version 1.0-Faq was created
Version 2.0-Added Miscellaneous Section
Version 3.0-Added more to the Rumors Section 
-Added info on shields 
-Added to the advertisement Section, changed the name of versions in 
Version Updates.
Version 4.0-Changed info on the Golden Wolf to the Kevin Bug 
-Added info on Night Blade Bug 
-Added info on Magic Saber's effecting attack power.
-Changed the Name of Sections 7 and 8
-Fixed up some of the Grammar
-Added info on Kevin's WF
-Added info on Lise's Summons
Version 5.0-Added Section 8
-Changed a few mistakes here and there.
Version 5.5- Corrected Date of Update
-Other random corrections and additions made.
Version 6.0- More Mistakes Corrected
-Added people who deserved it in the Credits
-Added stuff to the Miscellaneous Section
-Added GoodLuckDie's whole theory on the Elemental Sabers
-Added Ancient's, the rest of Carlie's Heal Light's and Shurikens' 
Casting Time.
Version 7.0
-Removed Rumor Section
-Added more Casting time stuff
-Fixed up the Spell Calculations to be more accurate
-Corrected many mistakes in damage calculations
-Changed the Layout of the FAQ overall
-Added a few comments here and there
-Changed the presentation the Weapon Calculation Section
-Added Bug Alerts
-Added Potential Questions and Answers
-Changed Section 9 to a Q&A section
Version 8.0
-Added Darrien's theory on Recovery Rates of Characters to Section 8.
-Relabelled and added a lot of stuff to Section 8.
-Changed the Info on Kevin's Wolf Forms
-Added info on Energy Ball by Alex Jackson
-Added info on Other Support Spells
-Added info on Negative Status Effects in section 7
-Added info in spell calculation section.
-Changed around stuff in Section 6
Version 9.0
-Changed a few things in the Spell Calculation Section
-Fixed a few errors in Spell Calculation Section
-Added a few more Spell Casting times
-Deleted a few unnecessary things in this FAQ to make it look cleaner
Version 10.0
-Changed a few gramatic errors
-Minor Cosmetic Changes
-Minor Description Changes in section 3
-Added to the Spell casting times
-Corrected some mistake on "Tech's Damage Multipliers" as well as 
examples in damage
-Corrected a few things in Spell Calculations
-Added another PQ to the Misc. Q&A section
-Changed a bit of description about Shields
Version 10.1
-Changed a mistake regarding Angela's Multipliers
-Changed some mistakes in spell casting times

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12. Credits
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I would like to first give credit to Square Soft for creating an 
amazing game.  Next, Gamefaqs for their great site and Message Board I 
never leave (almost anyway) I would also like to thank all those board 
members who supported the idea of doing this Faq.  I would also like to 
give my thanks to Gyara Man for, yet again, inspiring me to do this, 
and Eternal Spirit for helping in ways to figure it out.  Thank you 
Armisael for the help with Lise's and Carlie's Summons

Thank you Erpy for notifying me about that Agility affecting the Trap 
Wheel part.

Thank you Darrien for your Recovery Rate theory.

Thank you Alex Jackson for your discovery of Energy Ball and why it 
never seems to work.

Thank you LSSJMagus for finally discovering the Relationship between HP 
and VIT progression.

Thank you Good Luck Die, for bringing up the Delayed Reaction with 
Sabers and SUs, and how Leaf and Moon Saber Work. 

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13. Legal Stuff
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This Faq is a copyright of Meeple Lard, Copy Right year 2001.  If you 
want to use this Faq to help you in anyway, contact me at my E-mail:
DBZfflord@aol.com
It can be found at www.gamefaqs.com and they're only.  All updates can 
be found there as well.

This Is Meeple Lard saying good day, and hope you enjoyed my Faq on 
Technicalities.  Be sure to look for updates in the Future.  And if you 
can, check out my other Faq on Hawk if you need info on that elusive 
Character.

Good Bye, all of you, and Good Luck in the future.