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    Tales of Phantasia SFC/PSX differences
    v .7
    Created by Cless (email at bottom)
    http://starocean.zophar.net/
    http://cless.romhacking.com/
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        I have recently obtained a copy of Tales of Phantasia's remake for
    the Sony PlayStation. It's really good and I _HIGHLY_ recommend it to
    anyone who enjoyed the original Super Famicom version. I wrote up this
    guide up to cover as many big differences as I can possibly find. I also 
    throw in a few comparisons to Tales of Destiny's general engine as well.
    
        Since it's a true remake, it's bound to have all the essentials of
    one. Enhanced graphics, sounds, music, etc. But that's not all. Not
    only is it a remake, it's also a remix, there are new features, quests,
    and a lot more.
    
        If you've ever played Tales of Destiny (the sequel), the remake
    of Tales of Phantasia has inherited many of the engine enhancements
    from it. It seems to me that the remake may have actually been ported
    to a modified version of the Tales of Destiny engine.
    
    What's new?
    
    01/21/01
    
    	I've never been one to come up with reliable release dates, and it's
    	been over 3 seasons since the last... but...
    
    	This FAQ's gone through some formatting changes, and undergone many 
    	revisions and additions. Just read it all over again!
    
    	The next release will be focused on event differences, it shouldn't
    	take too long to release and I feel confident on that one. ^^;
    
       NEWS NOT ENTIRELY RELATED TO THIS FAQ BUT THE GAME ITSELF:
    
    	Dejap Translations has released their translation patch for the 16-bit
    	SFC version. Go play it, absorb the story if you couldn't read Japanese.
    	Do not email me about Tales of Phantasia ROMs!
    	http://dejap.zsnes.com/
    
    	Phantasian Productions (my game translation site) is working on the
    	32-bit PSX remake. Don't expect it to be released for awhile though.
    	http://cless.romhacking.com/
    
    04/08/00
    
    	Initial release. There are a number of differences that I don't think
    	I've gotten around to inputting here. Hopefully there will be an 
    	update soon.
    
    				Table of Contents
    				-----------------
    	1) Character related stuff; abilities, magic, misc stuff
    		  I. Cless Alvein
    		 II. Chester Barklight
    		III. Mint Adnade
    		 IV. Klarth F. Lester
    		  V. Arche Klaine
    		 VI. Suzu Fujibayashi
    	
    	2) Items
    		  I. Deleted (quick list)
    		 II. Added
    			1. Quick list
    			2. New items that deserve to be explained
    		III. Changed effect
    
    	3) General gameplay
    		  I. New cooking system
    		 II. The "Job" system
    		III. Battle system
    		 IV. Difficulty modes
    		  V. The "New Game save"
    
    	4) Changes throughout the game
    		I.	Story
    		II.	Subquests
    
    	5) Misc changes and additions
    
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                       	     1) CHARACTER RELATED STUFF
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    	One general thing. In the SFC version, the in-game character sprites
    	hardly at all even resembled the original artwork. Cless wore this
    	blue dress type thing (not sure what it's called), Klarth looked much
    	more like a scholar and wore a different hat. This has been completely
    	changed. The sprites now very much reflect the artwork. Cless has his
    	cape, Klarth has his hat and body symbols, Mint looks much more like
    	a priestess, etc. And maybe it's just me, but the characters look a bit
    	older, too...
    
    
    	I.	CLESS ALVEIN
    		------------
    
    	He now has two new 'secret' techiques. Both of these special techniques
    	are NOT performed the same way normal techs are performed! They are also
    	not gotten in the traditional fashion.
    
    	His first one is a desperation attack. When the word "Power" flashes by 
    	his HP or TP, hit all 3 attack buttons, [], X and O at the same time!
    
    	The other one is Stahn Aileron's Ougi "Assassin" (US name...). You must 
    	have a SPECIAL SWORD (it's kind of a spoiler, yet an optional one) and I
    	believe it requires the use a certain combination of buttons to execute.
    	I've still not gotten this yet-- I found out in a technique FAQ.
    
    	II.	CHESTER BARKLIGHT
    		-----------------
    
    	As far as being a fighter goes, he's changed quite a bit. The biggest
    	and obvious change is that he has 9 TP-consuming skills at his disposal.
    
    	No longer is he only a brute force fighter. His later weapons have gone
    	through a bit of weakness, but in the end, his techs by far make up for
    	this change!
    
    	His new moves are:
    
    	Guren - Fire arrow attack
    	Touga - Ice arrow attack
    	Gouten - Lightning arrow attack
    	Shuuu - Attacks enemies with a bunch of airblades
    	Hayate - Shoot lots of arrows at an enemy
    	Shyouha - Shoots an arrow into the ground and hits enemies with earth.
    	Shinten - Arrow Rain attack.
    	Taiga - He pulls out a HUUUUUUUUGE arrow from his quiver and does big 
    		  damage. ^^
    	Toryuu - Powers up his bow and shoots a powerful beam
    
    		NOT BATTLE RELATED:
    
    	Chester has a new Seiyuu (voice actor). In the original, he had the same
    	one as Cless, but he didn't have many voice clips so it was alright.
    
    	III.	MINT ADNADE
    		-----------
    
    	A "Deleted spell" is one that is not present in the remake.
    
      DELETED SPELL: "Valkyrie". Was the attack up spell
    
      DELETED SPELL: "Haste". It increased battle walking speed. I think.*
    
    IMPROVED SPELLS: "Nurse" and "Ressurection". Now affect characters not in the
                       same screen as the one it was originally casted on.
    
    	NEW SPELL: "Charge". Recovers 5 TP to another member while consuming
    	           10 of her own. Kinda useless.
    
    	NEW SPELL: "Time Stop". Works like an Hourglass item.
    
    	NEW SPELL: "Sharpness". Replaces Valkyrie, and has the same effect (attack
    		     up). Wonder why the change... Valkyries are cooler. :/
    
    	On Haste: (you can ignore this, it might not make sense) I dumped a list
                    of all the tech/spell names from memory in the game, and found
    		    out that the spell actually does exist. Mint just can't obtain
    		    it. it is known as a "Dummy"; something placed in a game but 
    		    never used)
     ANOTHER DUMMY: (ignore this too if you want). There is a spell in the list
    		    called "Holy Wall". It cannot be obtained. It doesn't exist
    		    in the SFC version and wasn't used in the PSX version. It is
    		    unknown what it is supposed to do. I hope to have a Gameshark
    		    code here one day to enable it...
    
    	NOT RELATED TO SPELLS:
    
    	Just like Chester, she has a new Seiyuu. Don't know why the original
    	didn't come back...
    
    	IV.	KLARTH F. LESTER
    		----------------
    
        DELETED SPELL: "Chameleon". Was an instant death summon.
    
       CHANGED EFFECT: "Maxwell". No longer does 'random' damage. Each hit is about
                       the same. Overall, not as powerful as before.
    
       CHANGED EFFECT: "Luna". Now multi-hit. Blasts several beams in random areas
                       of the immediate battlefield. If a beam makes contact with an
    		       enemy, it does damage.
    
    	  NEW SPELL: "Pluto". Replacement for Chameleon. Never gotten it, but from
                       reports, it's a weak summon that does many hits. Apparently
                       good for making ridiculous combos and getting good combo EXP.
    
    	V.	ARCHE KLAINE
    		------------
    
    	All the lame death spells are gone, YAY!
    
        DELETED SPELL: "Fire Wall". Was a fire element spell.
    
        DELETED SPELL: "Ice Wall". Was an ice element spell.
    
        DELETED SPELL: "Distortion". Was a weak death spell.
    
        DELETED SPELL: "Extinction". Was the most effective death spell.
    
        DELETED SPELL: "Death Cloud". Was the middle level death spell.
    
        DELETED SPELL: "Flare Tornado". Was another Fire element spell.
    
       CHANGED EFFECT: "Black Hole". No longer a death spell. Now it is a powerful
                       damage spell that is about as powerful as the SFC version's
                       Meteor Swarm.
    
       CHANGED EFFECT: "Meteor Swarm". Multi hit. There are five large meteors that 
                       come crashing down. Each one does 1500-2000 damage to an 
                       enemy that comes into contact.
    
    	  NEW SPELL: "Maelstrom". Forgot its effect...
    
    	  NEW SPELL: "Cyclone". Multi-hit wind elemental.
    
    	  NEW SPELL: "Tempest". More powerful wind elemental. Replaces Death Cloud.
    
            NEW SPELL: "Rock Mountain". Strong Earth elemental. Drops a big boulder
    			 on the enemy.
    
    	  NEW SPELL: "Earthquake". Should be self-explanitory.
    
    	  NEW SPELL: "Big Bang". The most powerful spell in the game. Replaces
    			 Extinction.
    
    	VI.	SUZU FUJIBAYASHI
    		----------------
    
    	She's just Phantasia's new character, and is also a Ninja. She is the
    	same Suzu found in the SFC version, only much more grown up (and looks
    	entirely different, but they ARE the same).
    
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                     			       2) ITEMS
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    	There are a lot of new items in the remake, a few deleted ones here and 
    	there, and some that have had their effects changed.
    
    	Also new to ToP PSX are 'trade items'. They are usually found in treasure
    	boxes or on monsters. Their values varies between shops, a certain item
    	might be worth some pathetic amount at one shop, but be worth enough to 
    	start	a small fortune elsewhere.
    
    	This section probably would not be possibly be complete without the help
    	from Chess Piece Face. Thanks again for the item list from the SFC ToP! :)
    	No thanks to Namco for their horrible, unorganized item order, though. :P
    
    	Secondly, I know there are some weapons/armors with attack power/defense
    	differences. Now that is probably humanly impossible, so I'm not going to
    	bother with that stuff, with the exception of major stuff.
    
    	Thirdly, I'm not including Food items into these lists.
    
    	I.	DELETED ITEMS (quick list)
    		--------------------------
    
    		Rare items:
    
    	Food Sack S, Food Sack M, Food Sack L
    
    		Weapons:
    
    	Soul Steal (bow), Sukebehon (book)
    
    		Headgear:
    
    	Land Beret, Ribbon
    
    		Accessories:
    
    	Magical ruujyu, Silver Mattock, Sephira+1, Demon Symbol, Fly Symbol,
    	Iron Boots
    
    	II.	ADDED ITEMS
    		-----------
    
    		1. 	QUICK LIST
    		   	----------
    
    		Rare items:
    
    	Mascot, Komonjo, Rozania's Dress
    
    		Weapons:
    
    	S*D (spoiler weapon...), Gungnir (level 2), Gungnir (level 3), Vanguard,
    	Pin up girl (book), Misa Requiem (book), misutosabonsun (book),
    	Nintoubotan (Suzu), Nintouayame (Suzu), Nintoukikyou (Suzu), 
    	Nintoukuruyuri (Suzu), Nintouchizakura(Suzu)
    
    		Armor:
    
    	Silver Plate, Witch Dress, Kisaragi (Suzu), Yayoi (Suzu), Kagatsuki (Suzu),
    	Kannadzuki (Suzu)
    
    		Headgear:
    
    	Golden Helm, Round Beret, Zukin (Suzu), Fukumen (Suzu), Long Blue Ribbon
    
    		Handwear:
    
    	Kagitekou (Suzu), Kitchen Mitten, Hahanotebukuru, White Gloves
    
    		Accessories:
    
    	Manjinoshirushi, Heavy Boots, Mizugumo, Channel Ring, Dash Ring,
    	Technical Ring, Blue Sephira, Attack Symbol, Demon's Seal, Wall Breaker,
    	Magical Puch, Utsushimishippu.
    
    		Standard Items:
    
    	World Map, Monster Zukan, Collector Zukan, Ticket
    
    		2.	NEW ITEMS THAT DESERVE TO BE EXPLAINED
    			--------------------------------------
    
    	Monster Zukan: Displays statics of all previously fought monsters. Using
    			   spectacles will reveal more. All info is retained in a
    			   "new game save" (see below) so you can try to fight all the
    			   monsters in a series of playthroughs and get their data.
    
        Collector Zukan: Displays any and every item you've ever found. Data is 
    			   retained in a new game save so you can try collecting
    			   every item in a series of playthroughs.
    
    	    World Map: Map of the world. You can also view the contents of shops
    			   you've been to before.
    
         Technical Ring: Imported from Tales of Destiny. Enables manual battle
    			   control.
    
    	III.	ITEMS WITH A CHANGED EFFECT*
    
    	Jet Boots: Originally allowed you to run while pressing B. But since
    		     running in ToP PSX doesn't require such items, it raises combat
    		     speed by 50%.
    
      Berserk Arrow: Quite a bit weaker, and doesn't shoot two arrows anymore.
    		     Chester's techs far more than make up for this, and this
    		     isn't his best weapon anymore anyway...
    
    	*probably very incomplete
    
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                    		        3) GENERAL GAMEPLAY
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    	I.	The NEW food/cooking system
    		---------------------------
    
    	The Food Sack system is just a memory and Food has a couple of new 
    	purposes:
    
    	To act as weak recovery items. I guess this is true successor 'feature' to 
    	the loss of the food sack. Food items restore a very small amount of HP 
    	and/or TP. The recovery amount is so small, that it might not be worth it 
    	unless you are utterly desperate and don't have recovery items.
    
    	The new cooking system. The real use of the food items.
    
    	Around the world and in every time period, there are chefs in every town.
    	They will teach you how to cook new kinds of food. Logically speaking, the
    	food requires ingredients. Gather the required ingredients and cook 'em.
    
    	For some reason, you can only cook once, and to cook again, you have to
    	battle first. I don't understand the logic... it's like that in Tales of
    	Eternia as well.
    
    	II.	The "Job" system
    		----------------
    
    	As you go up levels, or meet certain requirements, you get new "Job" 
    	options for a character. No, it's not a job system like Final Fantasy 
    	5, Tactics, Dragon Quest VI, etc where you go from a mage to a fighter, 
    	but rather a titling system that ups your "rank" (like going from 
    	Apprenctice Knight to Knight), or gives them or something special after 
    	an event (Arche gains the title "Sex Kitten" after a "certain" event, 
    	hehe). 
    
    	You can switch between the titles at any time, but they don't appear to
    	do anything. They're just merely decorative and for completionists.
    
    	I do recall a guy in Euclid (Future) who seemed to make comments on
    	the character's titles. He says the same thing on generic level up 
    	classes, but his comment seems to change on more "explicit" ones (see
    	above. ^^;)
    
    	III.	Battle system
    		-------------
    	Tales of Phantasia basically imports the Enhanced Linear Motion Battle
    	used in Tales of Destiny. So it has a much smoother, nicer feel than
    	the SFC's original Linear Motion Battle system.
    
    	But since this FAQ isn't about ToD, Let's compare ToP SFC's LMB
    	with ToP PSX's version of the E-LMB.
    
           1-MUCH easier handling and control of the character you're controlling.
     	 In the original Tales of Phantasia, it was quite tricky. Sometimes it
    	 seemed that the normal moves that Cless did were almost random. Not so
    	 anymore. It's hard to explain, but your character is just SO much
    	 easier to control.
    
           2-Your character will go into a "Defense" state while pressing the []
    	 button. Getting attacked with it on will reduce damage a bit.
    
           3-Up to 4 human players can play the battles with a multitap. Requires
     	 you to find the Channel Rings like in Tales of Destiny, though. Who 
    	 says RPGs can't be fun multiplayer games? Star Ocean needs this 
    	 feature! Only problem is that there are only 3 dedicated fighters and 
    	 the mages are genearally boring to control...
    
           4-Say goodbye to ranged special attacks. You can use any special attack
    	 at any range. For example, Majinken could only be placed in a long
    	 ranged slot and could only be executed when your target was far away.
    	 Now it's possible to use it on enemies that are only two pixels away.
    	 This is all because ToP PSX has imported the skill assign menu from
    	 Destiny (You assign the skills to d-pad pressings + special button)
    
           5-New character control options. These are Auto, Semi-Auto and Manual.
    	 Don't confuse them with the SFC version's targetting options! These
    	 are entirely different. Here is how they work:
    
              Auto: Character is controlled by the computer AI. Yes, you can even
                    set your player character to this and you will have no control
                    over the character whatsoever.
    
         Semi-Auto: Same control mode SFC version ALWAYS runs in. If you're quite
                    familiar with the SFC version's LMB, then you'll be right at
                    home.
    
            Manual: My favorite. You take complete control of the character.
                    Pressing up will make you jump (which is something Tales of
                    Destiny's manual mode didn't offer!). Pressing the attack
                    button will make you swing rather than have you run at the
    		    selected target. Pressing a left or right directional twice
    		    will make the character run in that dirction. You have to work 
    		    harder in this battle mode, but I think it is a lot more fun 
    		    that way. By the way, it requires a Technical Ring to access
    		    this control mode.*
    
    	*Cool tip: The Combo Command accessory also gives access to Manual mode,
    		     However you'll have to use d-pad inputs to do the specials.
    		     BUT, this allows a cool twist in the battle system. Have you
    		     realized it yet? You get the freedom of full movement, plus
    		     specials performed with the d-pad, not to mention the ability
    		     to block. Throw that in a blender and what do you get? An old
    		     school 2D fighting game! Basically, anyway. (Do you believe it
    		     now, Spinner? Remember, YOU'RE wrong :P)
    
    	IV.	Difficulty modes
    		--------------
    	he original Tales of Phantasia actually had two difficulty modes. One was
    	normal, and the other was much harder. The harder mode was a secret 
    	feature in the original. (to access it, hit ABXY at the same time while
    	"New Game" is highlighted on the title screen. If you hear "Yatta" being 
    	said by everyone in the party, then you've got it. Monsters will attain a 
    	lot more attack power, but their HP  staylevels the same.)
    
    	Now, in the remake, there are THREE difficulty modes that I know of:
    
    	Normal:  Normal difficulty. Fairly easy and very beatable.
    
    	Hard: Not quite as hard as the SFC version's "Hard Mode" from what I've
    		experimented with. Monsters obtain a significant increase in attack
    		power, and HP twice that of the Normal mode. Seems very beatable, but
    		you may run into a few rough spots.
    
    	Maniac: Pure insanity. Monsters get an even higher significant increase in 
    		  strength and receive THREE times as much HP as the Normal mode. 
    		  The difficulty of this seems virtually impossible. In the earlier 
    		  parts of the game, unless you run into G.Bees, you're in for one
    		  hell of a brutal beating. Super expert players who know how to 
    		  maneuver themselves well through battles and can avoid getting hit 
    		  should be the only ones warranted to play this death wish! Oh, and
    		  what's more? This mode very easily gets the title "Hardest hard 
    		  difficulty in ANY RPG." Yes, it even kills Star Ocean: The Second 
    		  story's Universe mode with EASE.
    
            NOTE: This mode is not accessible until you beat the game, and use 
                  the "New Game save" that you are given to make at the end of
                  the game.
    
    	One more thing worth saying is that these difficulty modes are adjustable 
    	during the middle of out of battle play. So if you're playing in Normal, 
    	and getting bored becase it's really easy, you could simply highlight 
    	"Hard" or something.
    
    	V.	The "New Game save"
    		-------------------
    
    	To some people, it might sound like something such as "New Game +" from 
    	Chrono Trigger. But it's actually quite different. After the credits when 
    	you finish the game, you'll be given the option to save. If choose to, you
    	can create a file with a green star at 0 Hours and 0 minutes (0:00). It 
    	retains the special data that was in your last game, such as the Monster 
    	Zukan and Collector Zukan data. It also enables the Maniac difficulty 
    	level. Perhaps it does more than that, but I haven't noticed anything.
    	With the retained data, it adds more replay value.
    
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                            4) CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE GAME
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    	This part will be kind of like a walkthrough of changes in events during 
    	the game. I haven't really devoted a real playthrough to write this part 
    	yet in completion (I've just begun that playthrough, and I will record as
    	many differences that I can remember, in fact, I've put a couple more in
    	this version...)
    
    	There are remake SPOILERS in here, obviously! Even spoilers for you who've
    	played through the SFC version. There are new scenes and stuff that reveal
    	more. Not everything is major, but anything major is not specially marked,
    	so read at your own risk. So, if you're only an SFC vet, skidattle.
    
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    	Amy (Chester's sister) will have some dialogue with Cless if you go and 
    	talk to her before going in the forest. She'll give you the rare item 
    	called the "Mascot" which is a model of Cless.
    
    	When you return from the Spirit Forest, instead of being completely out 
    	of it, Miguel will mutter a couple of sentences to you before dying.
    
    	To break the gate in the sewer, you need to use the Battle Axe found in 
    	the treasure box. The Long Sword you pulled out of Meryl won't work 
    	here. The Battle Axe breaks too, so you can't use it for the coming 
    	battles. (too bad, hehe).
    
    	The Clay Demon boss in the sewer is joined with two additional flying
    	creatures. Originally, it's just him and the two slugs.
    
    	When Cless and Mint look at Torinics D. Morison's book after he shifts
    	them to the past, there will be a flashback that will show an extended 
    	version of the post Dhaos battle intro.
    
    
    	II.	SUBQUESTS
    
    	First one I remember involves the Forest of the Treant. To get to it, you
    	must have gotten Origin. Go back to Origin's place and "talk" to the slab.
    	Dialogue will engage and soon after a Yes/No option will come up. Select 
    	yes and you'll be warped to some new forest in another dimension. You 
    	search for a certain item here. This forest is a maze, because the map 
    	wraps around. I never completed it...
    
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    				PART 5: MISC CHANGES AND ADDITIONS
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    	The stuff in here is for singular things or things that aren't big enough 
    	to be worth making a section for.
    
    	1) The ending credits song in the Super Famicom version is NOT present. 
    	   Rather, it uses the great Hoshi wo Sora Ni song on those old singles!
    
    	2) Can't confirm it myself, but from what I've read from a review, most of 
    	   the dialogue in the game has been completely rewritten, to match the 
    	   'quality' of a modern game script or something. Same meaning, just 
    	   better written or something.
    
    	3) The Indignation spell isn't anywhere NEAR as a effective on Dhaos in 
    	   the Past/Present! Remember how it did like 5000-6000 damage, and then 
             how he screams at you for using it? In the PSX version, it only does 
             about as much as a common enemy (about 2000 at the time) and he doesn't
    	   get pissy at you. 
    
    	4) Dhaos in the present is MUCH more difficult! You thought he was difficult
    	   on SFC... wait till you fight him now! Remember how he was stronger than 
    	   Dhaos in the past, but had like 15000/45000 HP? Well, guess what now? 
    	   He's even strongerthan that, and has a FULL 45000/45000 HP! Skillful 
    	   waza use with Cless should pronounce you the victor, though.
    
    	5) A common complaint with the original game-- the RIDICULOUSLY high 
    	   encounter rate, has been toned down to unbelievably low levels. Believe 
    	   it or not, the NORMAL encounter rate in this game is even lower than 
    	   using Holy Bottle in the original. And now to think, the Holy Bottle still 
    	   exist in the remake. So what happens when you use one? Stress free 
    	   travel.
    
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