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    Marvel Vs Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes
    Jin FAQ
    V1.0 
    
    
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    This FAQ is Copyright 2000 Isao (William Chiang)
    
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    Isao (William Chiang) (Isao4Ever@aol.com)
    
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    ============TABLE OF CONTENTS===========
    
    I.    Revision History and Introduction
    
    II.   Marvel Vs Capcom 2 Game System
    
    III.  Character Specifics and Move List
    
    IV.   Strategies (Specific and General)
    
    V.    Last Thoughts and Thanks
    
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    I. REVISION HISTORY AND INTRODUCTION
    
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    ====Revision History====
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    V1.0  (6-17-00): First Version of FAQ.  Everything is new.
    
    
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    ====Introdution====
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    The Vs series has been Capcom's bread and butter in the arcades these past 
    few years, and even between the ludicrous two and a half year wait between 
    MvC 1 and MvC 2, mindless drones have been dumping in quarters like no 
    tomorrow.  My personal opinion about the Vs series is rather mixed.  It's fun 
    and entertaining, but I have to admit that the gameplay isn't too great.  Of 
    course Capcom has fixed the horrendous balance problems since X-men Vs Street 
    Fighter, Marvel Vs Street Fighter (the absolute low point in the Vs series), 
    and Marvel Vs Capcom 1. But in the extraction of some problems, and in the 
    quest to make an even more entertaining game, Capcom has allowed some glaring 
    problems in Marvel Vs Capcom 2.  Almost every character has a 100% combo, and 
    an Infinite.  Personally, I prefer games with more gameplay than flash (Like 
    King of Fighters).  However I also prefer playing against a human opponent 
    rather than the computer, so I have committed myself to learning and becoming 
    a master of Marvel Vs Capcom 2.  
    This FAQ about Jin is for the educated reader and player only.  I know it is 
    long, but if you take your time to peruse the whole FAQ (including the Legal 
    Stuff ^_^), you will learn lots.  I will try to stress fairness in gameplay 
    (i.e. stay away from throws), however even I have my cheap inclinations 
    sometimes, so I will not deny the reader of SOME cheap info.  But please, 
    PLEASE do not play like a scrub.  It just makes you seem like an ass.  In the 
    Strategies Section, I will go into more depth about cheapness and cheap 
    characters, and how not to be one and how to stop one.  Have fun, and thanks 
    for reading.  (Note: An asterisk * beside a title means that there are 
    current plans to update that section.)
    
    
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    II. Marvel Vs Capcom 2 Game System
    
    
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    ====Control Abbreviations and Symbols====
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    Do not, I repeat, DO NOT pay attention to the button labels on the Arcade 
    Board.  They are wrong, and are labeled for MvC 1.  Do not get confused when 
    I say Roundhouse (HK) and press the button labeled Roundhouse, which is 
    actually the Assist 2 (A2) button!
    
    
         ==Button Abbreviations==
    
         LP:  Light Punch   (Jab)
         MP:  Medium Punch  (Strong)
         HP:  Hard Punch    (Fierce)
         P:   Any Punch
         2P:  Two Punches   (LP + HP)
         
         LK:  Light Kick    (Short)
         MK:  Medium Kick   (Forward)
         HK:  Hard Kick     (Roundhouse)
         K:   Any Kick
         2K:  Two Kicks     (LK + HK)
    
         A1:  Assist 1
         A2:  Assist 2
    
    
         ==Joystick Abbreviations==     
    
         F:   Forward
         D:   Down
         B:   Back
         U:   Up
         DF:  Down-Forward
         DB:  Down-Back
         UB:  Up-Back
         UF:  Up-Forward
         QCF: Quarter Circle Forward 
         QCB: Quarter Circle Back         
         HCF: Half Circle Forward    
         HCB: Half Circle Back
         270: Rotate Joystick 270 Degrees
         360: Rotate Joystick 360 Degrees
    
         +:  Denotes button or joystick movement that must be performed in
             conjunction with another button or joystick movement.
             (i.e. D + LP = Down and Light Punch at the same time)
    
         ,:  Denotes button or joystick movement that must be performed 
             immediately one after the previous button or joystick movement.      
             (i.e. D, DF, F = Down, then Down-Forward, and then Forward)
    
    
    
    
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    ====Basic or Universal Moves====
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    For more info, please refer to other FAQs.
    
    
         Jump:        Simply tap up on the joystick.
    
         Super Jump:  Quickly tap Down, and then up.  Or you may just press up 
         from a crouching (down) position.  Or you may press two kicks (LK + HK)
         for most characters (excluding Zangeif).
    
         Dash:        Simply tap forward twice.  Or you may press two punches
         (LP + HP) for most characters (excluding Zangeif.)
    
         Roll:        When falling from a knock down attack, quickly roll the 
         Joystick Back, Down-Back, and then Down plus any punch button.
    
         Force Block: When blocking a multi-hit attack, such as a beam super,
         Press two punches (LP + HP).
    
         Switch Characters: To switch out to Character 1, simply press Jab and
         Short buttons (LP + LK) at the same time.  To switch out to Character 2,
         press Fierce and Roundhouse (HP + HK) at the same time.  Switching out
         causes the character jumping in to lose all RED LIFE (The red life bar
         behind the main life bar).  So use smarts, and don't switch out every 
         three seconds, like some idiots do.
    
         Assist: To call out an Assist, simply press the Assist 1 (A1) for the
         second character, and Assist 2 button (A2) for the third character in 
         the team.
    
         Snapback: Move the joystick Down, Down-Forward, and then Forward (QCF)
         and press either Assist button (A1 or A2).  The opponent will be knocked
         out of the screen, forcing another opponent team member to jump in.
         Uses 1 Hyper Combo Level.
    
         Team Counter:  To counter an attack by the opponent, simply press the 
         Assist 1 or Assist 2 (A1 or A2) button whilst blocking the attack made.
         Either the second or third character will jump out accordingly and 
         attack the opponent.  The characters will switch out at this point.
         Uses 1 Hyper Combo Level.
    
         Triple Delay Hyper Combo: Simply ram on both Assist buttons at the same
         time (A1 + A2) and all three characters will appear on screen to perform
         their according HC.  Rather worthless if you ask me.  Uses 3 Hyper
         Combo Levels.
    
    
    
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    III. Character Specifics and Move List
    
    Jin is a character who has high priority attacks, which are damaging, but 
    have execution and lag time.  Jin's Hyper Combos are EXTREMELY useful and can 
    be abused most of the time.  He is definitely not a scrub character.  
    Overall, Jin is an excellent character in the hands of a master.  (My rating 
    system goes from 1: Really Crappy or worst to 10: Totally Overpowered or 
    best.  5 is the median rating, duh.)    
    
    
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    ====Character Rating====
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    Strength: 9.0.    He dishes out damage in loads.  For every hit that 
    connects, the opponent will regret it.  Even his Weak attacks have decent 
    damage.  One of Jin's forte.
    
    Vitality: 5.0.  He takes damage at an average pace.  Since 5 is the average 
    score, it should explain everything.
    
    Speed:    4.5.  Most times, his attacks are extremely slow in both execution 
    and lag. Even his Weak attacks have some start-up.  His walking and dashing 
    pace are average though.  You'll have to rely on his other attributes to 
    succeed.
    
    Attack:   6.5.  The difference between Attack and Strength is the character's 
    ability to go on the offensive.  Someone may be powerful, but his or her 
    offense can completely suck (i.e. Hulk). Jin goes on the offensive rather 
    well.  You can't rely on his speed (or lack thereof) to be an offensive 
    machine, but his priority and range will get the job done.
    
    
    Defense:  8.0.  The difference between Defense and Vitality is the 
    character's ability to sit back and go on the defensive.  Someone may have 
    high Vitality, but their defense can totally suck (i.e. Silver Samurai). Jin 
    has plenty of defensive weapons like Saotome Dynamite, crouching Medium Kick, 
    Saotome Cyclone, and even Saotome Typhoon.  But you have to anticipate in 
    order for Jin to play defense well.
    
    
    Overall:  8.0.  The overall score is independent from the rest of the scores.  
    It depends on the overall effectiveness of the character when played at 
    maximum ability.  Which explains the 8.0.  While Jin doesn't really excel at 
    many attributes, his overall effectiveness is strangely high.  His Hyper 
    Combos are some of the most useful in the whole game, making him a force to 
    be reckoned with.  To play Jin effectively, one has to play a smart game, 
    where you don't make any rash moves.
    
    
    ==------------Assist Options------------==
    
    Every character has three variations of assists.  Your choice is extremely 
    important, as it decides whether you lose or win.  All of Jin's assists are 
    better than average, Beta being the very best.
    
    Alpha Assist/Variable Type: Saotome Typhoon. This is a pretty good assist 
    type to choose if you wish to be able to combo after an assist and to keep 
    opponents at bay.  Jin has quite an amount of lag time after this, so the 
    overall usefulness is lessened.  Make sure you cover Jin's ass when he 
    taunts.  Damage is pretty good.  Rating: 7.0
    
    Beta Assist/Anti-Air Type: Saotome Dynamite.  This is an excellent assist 
    type to chose.  Period.  Jin jumps in and performs his Saotome Dynamite.  The 
    overall range is pretty much 1/3 of the whole screen. What makes this assist 
    so great is the priority of the Saotome Dynamite.  Pull Jin out whenever an 
    opponent jumps in or dashes in, and they will be sorry they ever tried to get 
    near you.  It does excellent damage too.  The only real downside to this 
    assist would be the inability to combo after it.  You can totally abuse this.  
    Rating: 9.5
    
    Gamma Assist/Launch Type: Standing Strong.  Jin jumps in with standing 
    strong.  I see no real reason to use this assist since his Beta assist is a 
    better Anti-air and has higher priority and damage.  If you want to be able 
    to combo your opponent after an assist, this is pretty good.  However, I just 
    see that Jin sacrifices too much execution and lag time and priority to 
    choose this assist.  It's only good if you have a character with great Aerial 
    Rave abilities.  Rating: 5.5 
    
    
    Recommended Assist: Definitely Beta. There is no better Anti-Air assist.
    
    
    
    ==------------Normal Moves-----------==
    
    
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    ====Light Punch====
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    To perform a Light Punch, press the "Jab" button once.
    
    
    Standing:  Jin simply sticks his arm out for a good ranged Jab.  The priority 
    and damage is pretty good too.  It's just too bad that this comes our very 
    slow compared to other Jabs.  It seems almost so slow, that other people's 
    Medium Punches are faster.  It's good for careful poking and combo starting.  
    Rating: 6.0
    
    
    Crouching: Jin does the same animation, just crouching this time. Execution I 
    think may be a bit slower, I don't know.  Same properties as the Standing 
    Jab.  It has the same uses too.  I'd prefer his crouching Light Kick instead.  
    Rating: 6.0
    
    
    Jumping:   Jin does a straight punch that is almost totally horizontal.  Use 
    only for Air to Air battles and for air poking.  Execution is alright, I 
    guess, but the vertical range is pretty terrible.  Use it to start Aerial 
    Raves with.  Rating: 4.5
    
    
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    ====Medium Punch====
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    To perform a Medium Punch, press the "Jab" button a second time.
    
    
    Standing: Jin's launcher.  Jin performs a large uppercut motion with his arm, 
    causing a small wave to fire to travel upwards.  The priority is actually 
    good, but the execution time is terrible.  The lag time isn't too hot either.  
    The vertical range is very good, but again, like most launchers, the 
    horizontal range kind of sucks.  You'll have to combo into it to get it to 
    connect most of the time.  Do not pull this move out if your opponent is 
    nowhere near you.  There is an alternate way of doing this move.  Read below 
    in Command Moves "Other."  Rating: 6.5
    
    
    Crouching:  Jin punches downward from a crouching position (obviously).  The 
    priority is okay for this move, but the range is pretty terrible.  Both 
    Vertical and Horizontal ranges are small.  Execution time isn't bad, but the 
    lag isn't good.  Since Jin can only chain a Weak hit into a Hard hit, you'll 
    be better off sticking with the Crouching Fierce.  Rating: 3.0
    
    
    *Jumping:    I'm not too sure about this one.  I think it is an upward punch 
    in the air not unlike his Standing strong.  I'll have to check back on this.  
    It's mainly an Aerial Rave filler.  More to come.  Rating: 2.0
    
    
    
    
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    ====Hard Punch====
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    To perform a Hard Punch, press the button that is labeled "Strong" on the 
    arcade board.  This is incorrect, due to the new button setup that MvC 2 has 
    introduced.  Pressing the "Strong" button will result in a Hard Punch 
    (Fierce) to come out.
    
    
    Standing:   Jin rears back for about half a second, and then lunges forward a 
    short distance with his arm outstretched and his fist aflame.  Very good 
    range and priority, but execution and lag are pretty bad.  His standing Hard 
    Punch is very strong.  The enemy gets knocked back a bit, but you can combo 
    after this by canceling it quickly.  Use it as a careful punisher or in 
    combos.  Rating: 7.5
    
    
    Crouching:  Jin rears back for a second, and then punches forward with an 
    extended arm on fire.  The range and priority are good once again.  The lag 
    and execution time is not as bad as the standing version.  Good damage, but 
    hard to combo after since it makes the opponent fly to the end of the screen.  
    Rating: 7.5
    
    
    Jumping:   Jin punches downward like his Crouching Medium Punch.  It actually 
    has good priority and execution time.  The lag is pretty small.  The damage 
    is very good on this.  My preferred jump-in combo starter.   Rating: 8.5
    
    
    
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    ====Light Kick====
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    To perform a Light Kick, simply press the "Short" button once.
    
    
    Standing: Jin does a simple kick with his leg.  The range is very good for a 
    Light Kick, but the execution time is pretty bad.  It's slow to come out, but 
    the priority makes it a pretty good poking move.  Use it to start combos with 
    too.  Rating: 5.5
    
    
    Crouching:  Jin props himself up with his hands and kicks forward with his 
    whole body.  Excellent range for a short once again.  But, the execution time 
    is once again very bad.  Use it to poke and to start ground combos with.  His 
    bread and butter combo can start with this.  Rating: 6.0
    
    
    
    *Jumping:   I think it's the same as his crouching version.  I'm not sure.  
    I'll check back once I get more info.  Rating: 2.0
    
    
    
    
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    ====Medium Kick====
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    To perform a Medium Kick, press the "Short" button as second time.
    
    
    *Standing: Jin hops forward and kicks the opponent twice with flame being 
    emitted from his feet.  The range and priority is good for a Medium Kick.  
    Use this to punish mistakes and to counter low attacks.  Rating: 6.5
    
    Crouching: Jin hops up with two flaming kicks aimed upward.  The Vertical 
    range and priority on this is amazing.  The Horizontal range isn't too good 
    though.  Use this as a defense from jump-ins, as it does very good damage.  
    Don't abuse this though, because it has quite a star-up and lag.  Rating: 7.0
    
    
    *Jumping: Same animation as the Crouching Version.  Aerial Rave filler.  Not 
    much to say about it.  It's not very effective in most situations.  I 
    sometimes skip this in an Aerial Rave because its Horizontal range is sort of 
    limited.  Decent for Air to Air battles.  Rating: 3.5
    
    
    
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    ====Hard Kick====
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    To perform a Hard Kick, press the button that is labeled "Forward" on the 
    arcade board.  This is incorrect, due to the new button setup that MvC 2 has 
    introduced.  Pressing the "Forward" button will result in a Hard Kick 
    (Roundhouse) to come out.
    
    
    Standing: Jin hops up again and lunges at his opponent feet first with a 
    swirling maelstrom of fire surrounding his legs.  The execution time is 
    decent (relatively) and the lag is okay at best.  The priority and damage is 
    awesome though.  Since Jin hops up a bit, he can avoid low ground attacks 
    with this.  It knocks opponents away after it connects.  Rating: 7.5
    
    
    
    Crouching:  Jin slides forward with the same spiral of fire surrounding his 
    legs.  Once again, this has very good priority and damage.  The range isn't 
    half-bad either.  You MUST ALWAYS cancel this into Saotome Dynamite.  ALWAYS.  
    It's his bread and butter combo.   Rating: 9.0
    
    
    
    Jumping:    Jin kicks forward twice with flames coming from his feet.  It's 
    like his Standing Medium Kick, but this time it is in the air.  The Priority 
    and Damage is insane on this move.  It doesn't have that much lag or 
    execution time either.  Use this for Air to Air battles and to finish off an 
    Aerial Rave.  Rating: 8.5
    
    
    
    ==------------Command Moves------------==
    
    
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    ====Throws====
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    F + HP (Air or Ground):  Jin grabs the opponent and dashes to the opposite 
    side of the screen, smashing the enemy into the outstretched fist of Brodia.  
    This does decent damage, but as I have said before, you should always refrain 
    from using Non-Special throws.  I only perform throws on accident most of the 
    time.  Throws are cheap, and escapable.  Don't abuse them.  Rating: 6.5
    
    
    F + HK:  Jin knocks down the opponent, sits on their chest and begins to 
    punch the hell out of them.  If you ram on the kick buttons, then you will 
    hit them more times, resulting in more damage.  Stay away from throws please.  
    Rating: 8.0
    
    
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    ====Other====
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    DF + HP: Second way to do his launcher (Standing MP).  Do this only for 
    defensive purposes outside of a combo.  Treat it the same way as you would 
    his normal Standing Medium Punch.  Rating: 5.0
    
    
    D + HK (In Air Only): Jin spins downward at a steep 25-degree angle towards 
    the enemy.  Hits three times and has high priority.  It's hard to combo after 
    it though.  The execution and lag time is minimal at most.  Use this to get 
    deep into a character's weak defense or to finish off an Aerial Rave.  
    Rating: 7.5
    
    
    
    ==------------Special Moves------------==
    
    
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    ====Saotome Typhoon====
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    Hold B, F + P:  
    Jin rears back for a moment, then spins towards the enemy covered completely 
    by a rather large tornado.  This does not negate fireballs.  The Jab version 
    travels only about 3/5 of a screen while the Fierce Version travels a full 
    screen length.  Both have some start-up and lots of lag time.  Do not abuse 
    this move, because it is easy to counter.  I use this move to counter, as an 
    Anti-Air, and as combo filler.  You really shouldn't pull this out of 
    nowhere.  The only other time when I use this is in conjunction with a 
    "Variable" or "Dash" assist (like Captain America).  While Captain America 
    negates projectiles, Jin flies forward and knocks the opponent silly.  It's a 
    good combination.  Use with care and brains, and you should never get 
    punished for a Saotome Typhoon.  Jab Version Rating: 6.5.  Fierce Version 
    Rating: 7.0
    
    
    
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    ====Saotome Dynamite====
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    Hold D, U + P:
    Jin stands up and his clothes immediately blow off his body, creating an 
    explosion with some range.  This can actually negate projectiles.  The 
    priority and damage for this is just way too awesome.  There is no execution 
    time, but there is some lag afterwards that very few opponents can take 
    advantage of.  Some hefty combos can be whipped out after or before this.  
    His bread and butter combo uses Saotome Dynamite.  You can use this in almost 
    any occasion; as an Anti-Air, as a punisher, or even as a keep away.  You can 
    easily abuse both versions.  Just don't get careless against people who have 
    Beam Hyper Combos.  Jab Version Rating: 9.0.  Fierce Version Rating: 9.5
    
    
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    ====Saotome Crush====
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    HCB + K:
    Jin crouches down for about 1/2 a second, then dashes forward a short 
    distance rather slowly.  This is considered a "Blockable Throw."  The 
    execution and lag time is pretty horrendous.  There will hardly be time when 
    you'll connect with this.  Never, I repeat, NEVER pull this move out if your 
    opponent isn't recovering form a missed attack or a combo.  The range isn't 
    that pleasing, and the priority is above average at best.  The real 
    attraction to using Saotome Grab is the damage and style points.  Most people 
    have never seen this throw before, and once it connects, it's one of the 
    coolest moves in the game.  The Light Kick version has less start-up and lag, 
    but the distance he dashes is shorter.  The Hard Kick version goes farther 
    but has quite some start-up and lag.  I sometimes use this close to the end 
    of a match just for fun.  You'll have to combo into this (it's VERY hard) or 
    counter with this for any success.  Short Version Rating: 6.5.  Roundhouse 
    Version Rating: 5.5
    
    
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    ====Taunt====
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    Hold START and alternate pressing both P Buttons (START + LP, + HP, + LP, + 
    HP...):
    One of the most hilarious moves in the whole game is also very deadly if done 
    correctly.  If you hold the START button down and begin to ram on the punch 
    buttons, Jin begins to scrub his naked back with a towel until he catches on 
    fire.  You can use this to defend against Jump-ins if you're fast enough.  
    Not only does it humiliate the opponent, but it can also take off a decent 
    amount of damage.  If the opponent is going for a cross up, and you have no 
    Hyper Combo Levels, pull this out, and they'll be sorry.  It is one of Jin's 
    Infinite Combos if done in the corner.  Use this if you're confident (I 
    always do ^_^).  Rating: 6.0
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    ==------------Hyper Combos------------==
    
    
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    ====Brodia Punch====
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    QCF + 2P:
    Jin punches forward in the same animation as his Standing Hard Punch, but 
    without the small dash forward, and the gigantic arm or Brodia reaches across 
    the screen and bashes the opponent in the face.  This is considered as Jin's 
    "Beam" Hyper Combo, but I think his Brodia Vulcan is more reminiscent of a 
    "Beam" super.  There is quite some start up on this (all of Jin's Hyper 
    Combos have start up though).  I tend not to use this Hyper Combo that much, 
    even though it seems to be the most popular with other players.  The reason 
    is, although it's his most combo friendly Hyper Combo, I find that it doesn't 
    connect as much as his other Hyper Combos.  The block damage is decent, but 
    I'd suggest going all out if you're going to pull this out.  To get the 
    maximum damage, you have to connect with this close up.  It is totally safe 
    from counters.  Use this as a punisher, a combo ender, or as a keep-away 
    tactic.  Rating: 7.0
    
    
    
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    ====Brodia Vulcan====
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    QCB + 2P:
    Jin turns his back to the player and snaps his fingers while the arm of 
    Brodia floats in and pummels the screen full of bullets.  I think this is his 
    best Hyper Combo.  In fact, I think this is one of the best Hyper Combos in 
    the whole game!  Although there is some start-up, it is totally safe from 
    counters.  The chipping damage is respectable too.  There are so many 
    occasions to pull Brodia Vulcan out.  If you're stuck with a cheesy 
    projectile opponent, execute a Brodia Vulcan and they will get at least 20 
    caps in their ass.  If an opponent is jumping in, then pull this out.  This 
    Hyper Combo has a strange blocking detection where Jin, although off screen, 
    is considered to be in the same location as where he began the Hyper Combo.  
    So the opponent often finds himself blocking the wrong way when they land 
    from a Super Jump.  You can pull this out anytime, even just to play keep 
    away.  The reason why I consider this his "Beam" Hyper Combo is that you 
    don't need to connect with it close up for maximum damage like you do for his 
    Brodia Punch.  One of the few downsides though is the difficulty at which it 
    takes to combo into Brodia Vulcan.  It's extremely difficult if not 
    impossible in most cases.  Abuse this Hyper Combo if you like.  It's that 
    good.  Ram on the buttons to increase the damage.  I use this Hyper Combo the 
    most.  And you should too.  Rating: 9.0
    
    
    
    
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    ====Saotome Cyclone====
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    QCF + 2K:
    One of the most damaging Level 1 Hyper Combos in the whole game.  Jin rears 
    back for a second (he does that a lot) like his Saotome Typhoon and then 
    spins forward a VERY SHORT distance.  The result is a huge tornado that 
    reaches to the very top of the whole fighting arena.  The Vertical priority 
    is unmatched, while the Horizontal range and priority isn't too good.  As you 
    can tell, this is an Anti-Air Hyper Combo.  And you should only use it in 
    Anti-Air situations.  The lag time isn't too great, se never ever execute a 
    Saotome Cyclone against an opponent who is not in the air.  The perfect time 
    to pull out a Saotome Cyclone is when the opponent is jumping over you to 
    cross over.  They often block the wrong way, and I think that it may be 
    unblockable in some situations!  Not only is it the ultimate in air defense, 
    it is the absolute best in damage.  You can even combo into Saotome Cyclone 
    from a standing Medium Punch!  If you use this carefully, then you should be 
    able to permanently ground the enemy.  You can't abuse it, but you can play 
    smart with it.  Use you brain, and it's one of the best Hyper Combos in the 
    game.  Rating: 8.5
    
    
    
    ==------------Special Ability------------==
    
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    ====Beserker Mode====
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    You can't really control this, so I don't really know where to put it.  If 
    Jin is the last character on a team, and he has only 30 percent (I think) or 
    less life left, he stands straight and begins to flash.  While he is 
    flashing, he has Hyper Armor (Weak and single hit attacks cannot phase him), 
    he takes damage better, and he cannot be knocked over easily.  Basically, 
    it's an extra that gives Jin a major bonus when he's the lone survivor.  It's 
    crunch time when this activates, so you better play smart.  There is no 
    downside to this, but then again, you can't control it either.  Rating: 10.0
    
    
    
    
    
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    IV. Strategies (Specific and General)
    
    
    
    
    ==------------General Strategies------------==
    
    
    To truly become a masterful Jin player, you must pay attention to several 
    things. 
    
    His strengths:
    
    +  He dishes damage out like a freakin' beast.
    +  He has a Beserker Mode once certain criteria are met (read "Beserker Mode" 
    for more info).
    +  His combos, although short, do very good damage.
    +  His moves have high priority.
    +  His Hyper Combos are some of the best in the game, giving him a big 
    advantage once the Hyper Combo bar is filled.
    
    His weaknesses:
    
    -  He's rather slow in execution and lag time and can be easily punished for 
    mistakes.
    -  He's at sort of at a disadvantage to "beam" characters, but not much.
    -  It's hard to get used to some of his moves since they're so unique.
    -  He's not a mashing character (bad for some of you, good for me).
    -  Since he is a charge character, there will have times when he's just 
    sitting there idle.
    
    
    
    Basically, Jin is a precision character that requires patience and smarts.  
    Unlike Joe Blow who plays Wolverine, or Strider, or Ice Man, you can't just 
    go wild and expect decent results.  It's either you're kicking ass with Jin 
    or you're getting your ass kicked.  Play it smart and know when you need to 
    sit back and play defense and when you need to charge in.  You'll usually 
    have to play an offensive game against projectile-based characters.  Sit back 
    and play Defense against pixies.  Play a mixed game against power characters 
    like the Hulk.  And make sure you liberally use your Assists.  Team Jin up 
    with people who have Projectile or Dashing Assists.  And once he's resting, 
    always use his Beta Assist.
    
    
    *More stuff later.
    
    
    
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    ====Teams====
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    Jin works well with certain characters Assisting him.  Here are some teams 
    that I have found very effective.  Most of these teams have earned me 15 or 
    more win streaks.
    
    
    1.  Jin, Magneto, Captain America:
    The trick to winning in MvC 2 is constant assisting.  Never should there be a 
    second in the match when there is no partner assist coming out.  Pick Beta 
    Assist for Jin (Anti-Air), either Alpha or Gamma Assist for Magneto 
    (Projectile or Launch), and Gamma Assist for Captain America (Dashing). 
    Whenever you face an opponent who just sits back or is a cheap Fireball/Beam 
    character (I.e. Ice Man), whip either Magneto (Alpha Assist) or Captain 
    America out.  Magneto will stop the projectile in most cases, while Captain 
    America's Charging Star negates all normal Fireball/Beam attacks.  I suggest 
    always pulling out a Saotome Typhoon whenever you call Captain America out.  
    You will travel with Captain America, with him covering Jin's ass against 
    projectiles and Jin covering Captain America's ass while he's taunting.  Jin 
    can't really protect his Assist Partners as well as others, so you'll have to 
    use a bit more caution. If you choose the Gamma Magneto Assist (Launch), just 
    use it to replace your own Standing Medium Punch.  It's mainly an Anti-Air or 
    a combo starter.  The range for it isn't too good though, so beware.  His 
    Crouching Fierce is just as good, if not better, than your own Launcher. 
    People tend to get pissed when you play this team (for several reasons) 
    because it is so effective Assist wise.  Many consider this style of play 
    cheap, but it's not like it's unstoppable.  In fact, with this team, comboing 
    after the assists is almost impossible, so the overall strength is weakened a 
    little.  Go for powerful, calculated hits instead.  Magneto can hold is own 
    against anyone, and Captain America can take on whole teams by himself.  This 
    team is amazing.  The Delayed Triple Hyper Combo for this team is hard to 
    connect, so don't use it.  In fact, never use Delayed Triple Hyper Combos.  
    They all suck anyhow.  Team Rating: 9.0
    
    
    2.  Jin, Ryu, Iron Man:
    The trick to winning in MvC 2 is constant assisting.  Never should there be a 
    second in the match when there is no partner assist coming out. Pick Beta 
    Assist for Jin (Anti-Air), either Alpha or Gamma assist for Ryu (Anti-Air or 
    Variable), and Alpha (Projectile) assist for Iron Man.  Use Alpha Ryu to 
    knock back incoming opponents and people who constantly jump in.  Use Gamma 
    Ryu to knock back pixies trying to dash in and to play a keep away game.  
    Iron Man is just thrown in there so you can combat projectile scrubs with 
    their own medicine.  The best character in the team is probably Ryu, so it's 
    best if you fight the match most of the time with him in the lead.  Once you 
    build up your Hyper Combo bar, bring Jin in to finish the team off.  Iron Man 
    isn't that bad of a character, but he's certainly the third best.  Use him if 
    your other characters need a break.  The Triple Delayed Hyper Combo actually 
    works tremendously well with this team, but I still recommend abstaining from 
    using it.  Team Rating: 7.5
    
    
    3.  Jin, Ryu, Captain America:
    The trick to winning in MvC 2 is constant assisting.  Never should there be a 
    second in the match when there is no partner assist coming out. Pick Beta 
    Assist for Jin (Anti-Air), Alpha or Gamma assist for Ryu (Anti-air or 
    Variable), and of course, Gamma assist for Captain America (Dash).  This team 
    is just like the first team I mentioned, only with Ryu instead of Magneto.  
    Basically played the same way.  Ryu's Alpha assist is very reliable, but 
    still lacks the punch of Jin's.  Ryu's Gamma assist is used similarly as 
    Captain America's assist to a certain extent.  His Tatsu Maki Senpuu Kyaku 
    doesn't negate projectiles though, so you'll have to be more careful with it.  
    Ryu as a character can take on teams by himself.  He takes damage decently 
    only, however he can play both offensive and defensive games incredibly.  
    This team, as individual fighters, is very strong.  The assists aren't too 
    bad either.  The only character whose assists are questionable are Ryu's, and 
    they really don't suck at all.  The Triple Delayed Hyper Combo of this team 
    works to a certain extent, but I still suggest staying away from it.  This 
    team has its weaknesses (no overly offensive characters), but they are still 
    a force to be dealt with.  If Ryu had better assists, than this team would be 
    truly unstoppable. Team Rating: 8.5
    
    
    4.  Jin, Ryu, Dr. Doom:
    The trick to winning in MvC 2 is constant assisting.  Never should there be a 
    second in the match when there is no partner assist coming out. Pick Beta 
    Assist for Jin (Anti-Air), Alpha or Gamma assists for Ryu (Anti-air or 
    Variable), and Alpha or Beta assist for Dr. Doom.  Like the team mentioned 
    above, except Dr. Doom adds a little twist to it. Instead of having an all 
    around character like Captain America, you have a keep away and poking 
    character in Dr. Doom.  Dr. Doom's assists are both excellent.  His Alpha 
    assist, Photon Beam, goes in all directions; perfect to keep the scrubby 
    Strider away.  His Molecular Shield Beta Assist is good for keeping people on 
    their own side.  The assists are pretty good with this team, but Dr. Doom, as 
    an individual fighter is hard to master.  The Triple Delay Hyper Combo for 
    this team is decent, but I still rather not use it.  Team Rating: 7.5
    
    
    *More Teams to come soon!  I need to play a little more and experiment.
    
    
    
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    ====Cheap Characters====
    ------------------------
    
    These are characters you shouldn't be playing for many reasons.  Either 
    they're just cheesy, overrated, or just stupid.  This is good advice to 
    follow if you want to become a respected player, not a loser scrub.  This 
    section is bound to piss off lots of gamers out there, because so many call 
    themselves "Masters" at these cheese characters.  People will argue that 
    these characters are good, but in truth, do you ever see the best players 
    using them without being cheesy?  Character Ratings are based on how most 
    people play them, NOT how a master plays them.  That is why their ratings are 
    so low.  I'm not claiming to be a "Master" at these characters either, so 
    please do not e-mail me about being conceited or something.
    
    
    1.  Ice Man:
    Grrr... the only people who play him are complete scrubs and worthless 
    idiots.  His no blocking damage for "energy" attacks is an unfair advantage.  
    People just sick back and shoot Ice Beams all day.  He's a scrubby character 
    that can't stand on his own.  He takes Damage poorly, and without that cheap 
    ability to take no block damage, he'd be totally worthless.  Stay away from 
    playing him.  It only takes about two minutes to master his style of play.  
    If you rely on him, you're a scrub.  Nothing brings me as much pleasure as 
    beating the living crap of an Ice Man player.  If you play him, you might as 
    well label yourself as a no-skilled, worthless scrub.  Enough said.  
    Character Rating: 4.0.
    
    
    2.  Wolverine (Both Versions):
    It doesn't matter whether or not Capcom weakened him; he's still a masher's 
    dream.  He almost totally sucks now, and is mostly flash.  There's almost no 
    reason to play him at all.  It's boring to play him too.  He's old and tired 
    out.  Capcom, please just let him age gracefully far, far away from the video 
    game spotlight.  Most people who play him are beginners or people who haven't 
    realized how crappy he is.  Character Rating: 3.0.
    
    
    3.  Strider:
    Overrated, overrated, overrated!  Sure, he has the speed and sometimes the 
    priority, but he's pretty much just a one trick pony.  All people ever try to 
    do is jump in, Aerial Rave, and then Uroburos or Legion.  Sigh... he's so 
    predictable, and so boring to play.  Masher's dream too.  His assists are 
    totally worthless.  Only idiots will keep on choosing him.  Please, just let 
    off, because he sucks.  Most people that use Strider are beginners, cheap 
    asses, or people who are not skilled enough to play a concentrated game.  
    Character Rating: 5.0
    
    
    4.  Cable:
    So many people do not know how to play Cable correctly.  They just use his 
    Viper Beam over and over again.  It's as if they don't know the meaning of 
    Execution and Lag time.  He's actually pretty good if played correctly; but 
    then again, he's almost never used correctly.  Basically a second scrub 
    version of Ice Man.  If you wish to play him, please read up on some nice 
    FAQs first, or practice hard.  Because if you don't then you just look 
    stupid.  Character Rating: 4.5
    
    
    5.  Spider Man:
    Sigh... like a second version of Strider.  Jump-in, ground combo, Aerial 
    Rave, Web Ball, crap poking game, and sweep into a Crawler Assault.  Spider 
    Man players are very predictable also.  Spider man can not play a varied 
    game.  He is limited to the same moves and same combos over and over again.  
    If played even at maximum ability, he is far from the best.  He's a semi-
    masher for semi-experienced characters.  Most people who use Spider Man are 
    decently skilled, however they like to use predictable and characters with an 
    easy game to learn.  Character Rating: 5.5
    
    
    6.  Jill:
    Geez, she seems to be the most favorite, new character.  She is used in about 
    3/5 of all the matches I have played.  She really isn't that great of a 
    character either.  And most people are very predictable when they play Jill 
    too.  All they do is dash in for a ground combo, Aerial Rave ending in her 
    Hyper Combo, call countless undead helpers onto the screen, and try to do 
    chip damage with her Rocket Launcher hyper Combo.  And they're not very 
    successful with it either.  I have never really met someone who could play 
    her at her maximum ability.  She has potential to be a very good Pixie 
    character, but no one seems to bother to learn how to use her correctly.  Use 
    Jill only after practicing and reading up on her.  But you'll still won't get 
    much respect for playing her because Jill players are a dime a dozen.  
    Masters are very rare.  Character Rating: 4.5 
    
    
    *People to be added/removed to the list as time goes on.
    
    
    
    
    ==------------Specific Strategies------------==
    
    Assist, Brodia Vulcan, Assist, Saotome Cyclone, repeat.  ^_^  Just kidding.
    
    
    *Coming Soon!
    
    
    
    
    
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    V.  Final Thoughts and Thanks
    
    Sorry for the missing sections, but they will be coming soon!  I think that 
    this FAQ is a respectable size already ^_^.  Anyway, just remember, the most 
    important part of playing a game is to HAVE FUN!  Don't let the lust for 
    winning totally ruin your enjoyment of the game.  Don't be an ass.  Have 
    manners.  Nothing's worse than a loser who takes the game too seriously.  
    There was once this guy who called me a derogatory name for African Americans 
    while playing me >_<.  Even though I am Taiwanese, that's a no-no.  Please 
    don't be like that.  It's not cool.  Oh yeah, and don't bring your boy/girl 
    friend to the arcade!  It sucks for them!
    
    
    Thanks to:
    
    All the scrubs who have forced me to learn to play fair and still kick ass.
    My best friend who's Importing habits have given me lots of time to play.
    All the people who write FAQs.
    The owner of www.Gamefaqs.com.
    You.
    
    
    Please e-mail me at Isao4ever@aol.com if I have violated any Copyright Laws 
    or have insulted you in some way.  Or just e-mail me if you have comments or 
    opinions or suggestions.  Please limit your bitching to 1 e-mail only please.  
    Replies will take some time so please wait.
    
    
    That's it for now!  Look for more FAQs on other characters and updates! 
    Laters people!
    
    
    Copyright Isao (William Chiang) 2000.