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User Info: grasu

grasu
5 days ago#51
It simply boggles my mind how people can claim that Islam isn't a problem when its basically gotten to the point where there's multiple attacks PER MONTH in Europe, ALL fueled by Islamic extremism. It's not just the young either anymore, it's middle aged men that are getting in on it too. It's not just the French or the Belgians either, but also the British, Eastern Europeans or Germans.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that this transcends social barriers, language barriers, nationalities or economic status? If you take the last 10 terror attacks make a "portrait" of your "typical" jihadist you'll find as many differences as you will similarities between attackers.

The problem ISN'T people, it's the f***ing institution! Islam is, literally, stuck in the Dark Ages! It's unreformed, part political movement part relgion (i.e. the Catholic church in the 12th century) and no real debate can ever be undertaken about it. It's Sun Tzu's Art of War under a religious guise. If you can't even have proper scientific debate over the locations or timelines of the Koran on fear of death, how can you possibly hope for reform?
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User Info: sfcalimari

sfcalimari
5 days ago#52
bigmalky posted...
I'm just going to add that the deaths resulting from Islamic terror attacks in France sits at 238 since 2015. That many in 2 years is not in any way acceptable, nor should be to anyone.

I don't want stats from the unsympathetic and extremely callous about how you're more likely to die in a car crash, or how it's easier to die from an accident at work... This is so-called human beings taking other human beings lives in the name of a twisted ideal.

238 people with families left behind. 238 victims. People forget that word too easily when this happens and instead make victims of the attackers, their culture and their poor unwitting families who always say they were such good upatanding citizens.

You might as well spit in their graves for the lack of humanity if you keep blowing this all off as 'just another random guy with mental illness'.

It's shameful.


Ok but to put things in perspective, like 10,000 Americans die every year by being shot by other Americans. Like 60 Brits are shot to death every year and their population is about 4.5 times smaller than the US, not 166 times smaller.
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User Info: sfcalimari

sfcalimari
5 days ago#53
grasu posted...
It simply boggles my mind how people can claim that Islam isn't a problem when its basically gotten to the point where there's multiple attacks PER MONTH in Europe, ALL fueled by Islamic extremism. It's not just the young either anymore, it's middle aged men that are getting in on it too. It's not just the French or the Belgians either, but also the British, Eastern Europeans or Germans.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that this transcends social barriers, language barriers, nationalities or economic status? If you take the last 10 terror attacks make a "portrait" of your "typical" jihadist you'll find as many differences as you will similarities between attackers.

The problem ISN'T people, it's the f***ing institution! Islam is, literally, stuck in the Dark Ages! It's unreformed, part political movement part relgion (i.e. the Catholic church in the 12th century) and no real debate can ever be undertaken about it. It's Sun Tzu's Art of War under a religious guise. If you can't even have proper scientific debate over the locations or timelines of the Koran on fear of death, how can you possibly hope for reform?


Reminder: you are more likely to be shot by an American toddler than killed in an Islamic terrorist attack.
Hands fit together like medicine butterfly itch on a bottle rocket tail everything is bleeding shake the glass out of your hair spell your name in broken teeth
I've long since analyzed most of these Gun Deaths within an average year and broke it down into details as much as possible.

- Violence Policy Center using FBI data for Justifiable Homicides
- http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable16.pdf
- http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable15.pdf
- http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable.pdf
- ~200-300 of those Homicides are Justfiable Self Defense

- 538 Gun Deaths Visualized
- https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gun-deaths/

- About 2/3rds of all deaths are Gun Related Suicides
- 21,058 deaths due to suicide via gun

- The remaining 1/3rd are Gun Deaths
- About 11,726 deaths are homicides
- Only about 546 deaths are due to accidents
- Only about 269 deaths are due to unknown causes

- Within the ~12,000 Homicides per year

~ 1092 were killed by cops
- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

- About 2,000 homicides are Gang related
- https://www.reference.com/government-politics/many-gang-related-deaths-occur-year-81d438d69ed97cc6

- Fatalities related to Mass Shootings for every year has been < 100 deaths per year
- http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

- Usually < 100 LEO's are killed by guns each year
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/30/507536360/ number-of-police-officers-killed-by-firearms-rose-in-2016-study-finds

~7,900 remaining deaths due to gun violence are attributed to other reasons for dying

- Compare Gun Violence to the grand scheme of Deaths in the US
- http://www.snopes.com/causes-of-death-2016/
- http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Causes_of_Death#sthash.PzztUzDk.dpbs
- http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-leading-causes-of-death-in-the-us/

- Domestic Violence:
- http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/domviofs.htm
- https://www.thetrace.org/2016/08/15-facts-that-show-how-guns-make-domestic-violence-even-deadlier/
- http://www.guns.com/2013/10/12/presence-firearm-escalate-domestic-violence-murder/
- ~1,000 women die via gun homicide due to Domestic Violence

- Death due to Robbery or Burglary
https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-are-killed-during-home-invasions-every-year
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide /expanded_homicide_data_table_10_murder_circumstances_by_relationship_2013.xls
In 2013 there was 12,253 murders, and 780 of those were associated with robbery or burglary (6.4%),
with 94 of those burglaries (0.7%). So, "home invasions" isn't part of the list,
but there's at least 94 murders definitely involving invasion of the home, and potentially some more home invasions in the "robbery" category.
2013 = Robbery: 686 + Burglary: 94 + Larceny-theft: 16 = 796

2/3rds of all Gun Related deaths are Self Inflicted Suicides:
~21,058 deaths annualy

1/3rd of all Gun Related deaths are some form of Homicide:
~ 11,726 deaths which we will round up to 12,000 for simplicity
Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'
Within those 12,000 (11,726 rounded up) Gun Related Homicde Deaths
~ 2000 deaths are inflicted by gang related violence
~ 1092 deaths are inflicted by police
~ 1000 deaths are against females due to domestic violence by a partner using a gun
~ 800 deaths are due to some form or Robbery/Burglary/Theft
~ 546 deaths are due to accidents
~ 269 deaths are due to unknown causes
~ 200-300 of those Homicides are Justfiable Self Defense
~ <100 deaths are due to a LEO getting killed via Gun Violence
~ <100 deaths are due to Mass Shootings of some sort
~ 5843 deaths are due to other reasons that I don't have more clear and consistent stats for, but here are samples within 1 year
-> ~ 2889 are due to some form of argument between people
-> ~ 1766 are due to some form of non-specified conflict between people
-> ~ 1188 are due to miscellaneous reasons
Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp 'Once Upon A Time in Mexico'
(edited 5 days ago)
sfcalimari posted...
Reminder: you are more likely to be shot by an American toddler than killed in an Islamic terrorist attack.
Actually, you're more likely to be killed by Gang Violence or the cops.
Any sort of negligent discharge by children is basically a statistical fluke compared to what happens in a year.
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User Info: grasu

grasu
5 days ago#57
sfcalimari posted...
grasu posted...
It simply boggles my mind how people can claim that Islam isn't a problem when its basically gotten to the point where there's multiple attacks PER MONTH in Europe, ALL fueled by Islamic extremism. It's not just the young either anymore, it's middle aged men that are getting in on it too. It's not just the French or the Belgians either, but also the British, Eastern Europeans or Germans.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that this transcends social barriers, language barriers, nationalities or economic status? If you take the last 10 terror attacks make a "portrait" of your "typical" jihadist you'll find as many differences as you will similarities between attackers.

The problem ISN'T people, it's the f***ing institution! Islam is, literally, stuck in the Dark Ages! It's unreformed, part political movement part relgion (i.e. the Catholic church in the 12th century) and no real debate can ever be undertaken about it. It's Sun Tzu's Art of War under a religious guise. If you can't even have proper scientific debate over the locations or timelines of the Koran on fear of death, how can you possibly hope for reform?


Reminder: you are more likely to be shot by an American toddler than killed in an Islamic terrorist attack.



A. What does that have to do with anything I posted?
B. That toddler is one helluva f***ing shot with his drone because I live 5000 miles away from the closest American city.

User Info: masher11

masher11
5 days ago#58
KingDFizzle posted...
Who cares about yet another Muslim attack? This happens all the time now and countless millions around the world have decided it doesn't matter at all. We were just debating this a couple days ago with the crazed Muslim in California slaughtering whites. It'll happen again next week, and liberals still won't care.

User Info: Jaghave

Jaghave
5 days ago#59
Newhopes posted...
Seems to be the religion of peace been peaceful again.


It was a cultural enrichment exchange
Most accurate analysis in this forum here the proof http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/261-politics/74887736

User Info: Jaghave

Jaghave
5 days ago#60
grasu posted...
sfcalimari posted...
grasu posted...
It simply boggles my mind how people can claim that Islam isn't a problem when its basically gotten to the point where there's multiple attacks PER MONTH in Europe, ALL fueled by Islamic extremism. It's not just the young either anymore, it's middle aged men that are getting in on it too. It's not just the French or the Belgians either, but also the British, Eastern Europeans or Germans.

Why is it so hard for people to understand that this transcends social barriers, language barriers, nationalities or economic status? If you take the last 10 terror attacks make a "portrait" of your "typical" jihadist you'll find as many differences as you will similarities between attackers.

The problem ISN'T people, it's the f***ing institution! Islam is, literally, stuck in the Dark Ages! It's unreformed, part political movement part relgion (i.e. the Catholic church in the 12th century) and no real debate can ever be undertaken about it. It's Sun Tzu's Art of War under a religious guise. If you can't even have proper scientific debate over the locations or timelines of the Koran on fear of death, how can you possibly hope for reform?


Reminder: you are more likely to be shot by an American toddler than killed in an Islamic terrorist attack.



A. What does that have to do with anything I posted?
B. That toddler is one helluva f***ing shot with his drone because I live 5000 miles away from the closest American city.


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