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User Info: Sativa_Rose

Sativa_Rose
5 months ago#1
Basically this renewable energy expert named Mark Jacobson, director of the Atmosphere and Energy department at Stanford and a pretty famous dude, wrote this paper on what a system with 100% renewable energy would look like in the years 2050 - 2055.

A group of other experts, led by a bold hero from the University of Colorado Boulder named Christopher Clack, just published a rebuttal to his paper yesterday and thus begins the twitter smackdown. I'll post some pics to illustrate the timeline of events

Professor Mark Jacobson publishes his original paper:

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A group of experts, led by Christopher Clack, publishes their rebuttal:

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Mark Jacobson immediately lashes out and dismisses the paper as "intentionally scientifically fraudulent". Shots fired!!

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Clack responds by calmly stating Mark's paper was full of errors and mistakes.

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Mark doubles down on his accusations of SCIENTIFIC FRAUD and then claims that Clack is only doing this because he's pissed that his own research isn't getting enough attention! BAM!

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As the crowds start to gather around the fight, Clack takes a deep breath and remains calm, remaining steadfast in his commitment to the facts. He wants to appear above the personal attacks, and he wants to make himself as clear as possible. Mark is claiming he can bring the existing dams to a power level of 1,300 GW from their current 145.16 by installing these additional turbines... Clack says this power level is impossible. Nobody can reach that power level. Nobody.

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Mark digs his heels in and gets nasty. Clack is a "DATA FAKER" cries Mark. He was told about the additional power level in an email in February! He's a FAKER!

But then suddenly a lone member of the crowd calls out "Come on Mark. This is Trumpian."

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Realizing that he is starting to lose the favor of the crowd to his seemingly more honorable opponent, Mark reevaluates his strategy. He reaches into his pocket and pulls out a dusty old record of an email and shows it to the crowd. This email "proves" that Clack and his gang of heroes MUST have known about the assumptions, and therefore must have falsified the data.

In this email, Mark tries to dodge his opponents strikes by claiming that he "did neglect to clarify that increased the number of generators/turbines for each hydro plant (without increasing the dam capacity) and neglected to include the additional cost..."

He then turns it back on his opponent by claiming Clack was intentionally misrepresenting the data by claiming to be unaware of these assumptions when he in fact knew about it the entire time.

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Clack takes a moment to compose himself and then carefully fires back with a well-aimed graph. A series of quick blows is exchanged between the two in a flurry of fists. The assumptions don't matter because it's still wrong, he says.

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ENTER JESSE JENKINS, climate researcher from MIT and a titan in his own right. Jesse walks slowly into the ring... Who does he stand beside? The famed Mark Jacobson or Christopher Clack and his gang of assorted heroes?

With a complete calmness and zen-like focus that amazes everyone who beholds it, Jesse Jenkins places himself at the forefront of the party of heroes, and then unleashes a series of decisive finishing blows.

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User Info: Sativa_Rose

Sativa_Rose
5 months ago#2
The crowd begins to solidify around Christopher Clack, Jesse Jenkins, and the other assorted heroes who have risen to stand against the now seemingly absurd Mark Jacobson. Members of the crowd start to join in and throw punches of their own, and with good force to back it up.

https://i.imgtc.com/PBvPPgK.png


And the response from the camp of Mark Jacobson now that he appears to have lost the fight? He stops responding. The people start murmor that he is blocking people on twitter.

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Not content with being completely silent though, he starts to retweet his supporters, including a picture of himself posing in a sexy poncho. Who doesn't love ponchos? He also got the environmental site EcoWatch to publish a more formal rebuttal to the claims of his opponents, which he retweets.

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Despite the onslaught, Mark Jacobson will not take one step down from his assertions. What will be the end of this story? Will this saga spell the end of the career of the once illustrious Mark Jacobson? Will the deeds of Christopher Clack and his band of heroes go down in history? Or could the people end up rallying behind Mark Jacobson, now the likely underdog in this fight? Only time will tell...

If anyone is interested, here are links to the two papers, and then Mark's written rebuttal to the rebuttal:


Mark Jacobson's original paper - http://www.pnas.org/content/112/49/15060.abstract

Christopher Clack et. al's rebuttal - http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2017/06/16/1610381114.abstract

Mark's rebuttal rebuttal - https://www.ecowatch.com/pnas-jacobson-renewable-energy-2444465393.html
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User Info: CherryTsundere

CherryTsundere
5 months ago#3
You have way to much time at your hands.
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User Info: gphjr14

gphjr14
5 months ago#4
CherryTsundere posted...
You have way to much time at your hands.
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Triad
5 months ago#5
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User Info: ZeroX91

ZeroX91
5 months ago#6
f*** 'em Solar and Nuclear all the way. lol
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Bluebomber182
5 months ago#7
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User Info: Sativa_Rose

Sativa_Rose
5 months ago#8
gphjr14 posted...
CherryTsundere posted...
You have way to much time at your hands.


Nah, it took me a little while to do all the screenshots but this is some actually interesting stuff going on right now. Of course, the mainstream media is completely oblivious to this, but in reality this should be huge news.
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User Info: ClayGuida

ClayGuida
5 months ago#9
CherryTsundere posted...
You have way to much time at your hands.

And this is what's wrong with politics.

'blah this is boring, who cares'

This is kind of important s*** to the welfare of our planet tbqh and it's kind of cool to see them go at it like this.
lolAmerica

User Info: ZeroX91

ZeroX91
5 months ago#10
Sativa_Rose posted...
gphjr14 posted...
CherryTsundere posted...
You have way to much time at your hands.


Nah, it took me a little while to do all the screenshots but this is some actually interesting stuff going on right now. Of course, the mainstream media is completely oblivious to this, but in reality this should be huge news.



It is....but its also really kinda dense, specially for a twitter fight. lol
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