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User Info: C_Mat

C_Mat
4 years ago#1
If you're an agnostic (one who does not posit a firm stance on the existence of God), you do not bear the burden of proof.

If you're a theist (one who believes that a God exists), the burden of proof is on you.

If you're an atheist (one who believes that no God exists), the burden of proof is also on you.

Sound fair?
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User Info: JonWood007

JonWood007
4 years ago#2
Except most atheists are also agnostics.

Only gnostic atheists, ie, those who claim with certainty God cannot exist, have the burden of proof. Agnostic atheists basically don't know, and also don't believe. It's basically the null hypothesis.
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User Info: OrangeWizard

OrangeWizard
4 years ago#3
I wasn't aware there was ""burden of proof" question"
Trolling and making valid arguments are not mutually exclusive things.

User Info: Moorish_Idol

Moorish_Idol
4 years ago#4
This is going to end up in another "define atheism" debate, so I'll just try to quell the masses now:

Atheism = the lack of belief in a god

It doesn't posit the lack of god, but rather it is a lack of belief, so it doesn't have to prove anything because it's making no claims.

"Strong atheism," on the other hand, says that no god exists. They have a burden.

User Info: bratt100

bratt100
4 years ago#5
Saying the burden of proof is on athiests is really asking the impossible it would require becoming god to disprove god. You would need to be in all places and times past present and future...both in and outside of time and space at all times (is no time outside of space). Also you would need to be fully aware of everything.

Asking a non-believer to prove god does not exist is a very stupid question and shows they didn't really think it through. You would prove a god exists by becoming a god..it's absurd.

Saying the burden of proof is on the religious requires much, much less of the one making the claim. A proper observed and studied miracle would be enough to convince many more people that there is more to the world then the material.

Asking a person why they believe and then asking for evidence doesn't really sound so crazy to me as most religions do make some pretty unlikely claims about the nature of the universe.

Just my two cents though.
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User Info: OrangeWizard

OrangeWizard
4 years ago#6
From: bratt100 | #005
Saying the burden of proof is on athiests is really asking the impossible it would require becoming god to disprove god.


Then don't make any absolute claims about the existence of God.
Trolling and making valid arguments are not mutually exclusive things.

User Info: bratt100

bratt100
4 years ago#7
OrangeWizard posted...
From: bratt100 | #005
Saying the burden of proof is on athiests is really asking the impossible it would require becoming god to disprove god.


Then don't make any absolute claims about the existence of God.


I don't. I don't believe he exists but I can't deny the slight possibility.
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User Info: OrangeWizard

OrangeWizard
4 years ago#8
And here comes the "atheist vs agnostic" debate
Trolling and making valid arguments are not mutually exclusive things.

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TheRealJiraiya
4 years ago#9
OrangeWizard posted...
And here comes the "atheist vs agnostic" debate


I like how this debate has gotten so irritating to all of us that we end up having more posts fearfully anticipating it than we do actually trying to spark the debate
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gamesrgreat
4 years ago#10
I don't believe in a god because I see no reason to. The universe doesn't seem to necessarily point to one . It is very easy, I think, to see why one would think this way. I find it a little more difficult to see why people believe in gods.
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