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User Info: Faust_8

Faust_8
4 years ago#31
DarkContractor posted...
OrangeWizard posted...
From: JonWood007 | #011
Ah, so you admit it?


I had you on ignore, so I wasn't replying to you.

I un-ignored you to squash the post that Magyar quoted, in case it was directed at me.

In response to that, you don't see me believing in any modern day miracles, so, as usual, you continue to make claims with no basis.


How come you don't believe in modern miracles?


My guess is it's a lot easier, since we can't examine miracles from thousands of years ago as well as we could examine any claimed miracle today.
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User Info: OrangeWizard

OrangeWizard
4 years ago#32
From: DarkContractor | #025
How come you don't believe in modern miracles?


Why should I?
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User Info: JonWood007

JonWood007
4 years ago#33
Do you know how messed up it sounds to not believe in modern day miracles, but to accept supposed miracles from a prescientific age? IMO, the lack of miracles in the 21st century implies that many of the old miracles may have been misinterpreted or exaggerated or made up. Why would God reveal himself in an age in which there were no scientific standards to measure such miracles, yet he won't reveal himself today when we could easily prove his miracles if they were indeed miracles? God could just go take the james Randi challenge and prove himself.
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User Info: Faust_8

Faust_8
4 years ago#34
Hence my whole "it's a lot easier for him to justify" argument.

It's easier for him if all the claimed miracles are locked away in the past and he doesn't have to explain the lack of them today.
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User Info: Guide

Guide
4 years ago#35
At anyrate, id rather be wrong about science than be wrong about God. God made science. I know that is hard for you to comprehend. And you will say some slick cliche statement about it trying to make me look dumb/bad. But I just dont care. I know where im going after i die. I know Jesus loves me and he loves you too. Have you ever thought about asking jesus into your heart? Jesus performs miracles you know.

The only cliche statement I see is you completely avoiding having to think about anything I said.
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User Info: OrangeWizard

OrangeWizard
4 years ago#38
From: Chaos Scade | #030
People report


Anecdotal evidence.

People have been known


Anecdotal evidence.

This doesn't explain the spontaneous igniting of pilgrims' candles


Not shown in the video.
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User Info: Wandering__Hero

Wandering__Hero
4 years ago#40
Modern Day miracles are the ones we can apply disgression to, as they are the ones we can test and verify with our own eyes. I dont think you would want us to stop questioning those, as it opens the backdoor for all kinds of crap.

I'm also all for testing, scrutinising and examining any "miracle" before us, because when we remove the fakes it will make the real miracles seem so much better.
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