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User Info: JonWood007

3 years ago#11
I disagree.
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User Info: epictetus1216

3 years ago#12
Well, that is what his book is about. We both went off on a tangent that has nothing to do with it.

User Info: Polish_Crusader

3 years ago#13
Hmmm. Sounds interesting. I will have to look into the book more myself. The subject of holiness is rarely talked about in christians circles.
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User Info: kts123

3 years ago#14
Every evil, insofar as I am aware, is a bent version of something good. JonWood is correctly identifying the crooked version of something good. The good version, however, is as follows:

“For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. He agreed to pay them a denarius for the day and sent them into his vineyard.

“About nine in the morning he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. He told them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.’ So they went.

“He went out again about noon and about three in the afternoon and did the same thing. About five in the afternoon he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’

“‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered.

“He said to them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard.’

“When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’

“The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. ‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’

“But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’

“So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”
[Matthew 20:1-16]

See, God gives fairly to those who strive, but He generously gives to those who didn't have the same opportunity. I didn't turn to God but for three years ago, and my reward is the same as a Christian who has strived since birth -- and if 60 years from now, JonWood, you finally come back to God, your reward will be the same as mine. Not because God is being unfair to me, but because He's being generous to you.

If God ran a corporation, a new recruit flipping burgers would make the same $100k/year as his highest paid manager. He isn't ripping off his managers, He's generous to his new recruit burger flippers.
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