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User Info: Garioshi

Garioshi
1 month ago#1
I'm sure you've all seen this graphic before: https://i.imgtc.com/7aWULMI.jpg
However, have you stopped to consider what it's actually saying? Let's try a bit of formal logic (without formal logic symbols because lol gamefaqs).

We are given the following axioms

God = The Father and vice versa
God = The Son and vice versa
God = The Holy Spirit and vice versa
The Father =/= The Son and vice versa
The Father =/= The Holy Spirit and vice versa
The Holy Spirit =/= The Son and vice versa

We can then derive

God = The Father
The Father =/= The Son
God =/= The Son

One of our axioms from before, however, states that God = The Son.

God = The Son
God =/= The Son

The principle of explosion states that either everything is both true and false simultaneously or our axioms are false. Since the former is clearly not true, the latter must be true. Therefore, the Holy Trinity is impossible.

User Info: Hustle Kong

Hustle Kong
1 month ago#2
Hey, I’m still dealing with a photon being a wave and/or a particle.
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User Info: WelshGamer82

WelshGamer82
1 month ago#3
It’s taken 17 centuries, but finally it’s been disproved.

Absolutely smashed it, m8.
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User Info: YHWH_Saves

YHWH_Saves
1 month ago#4
Hustle Kong posted...
Hey, I’m still dealing with a photon being a wave and/or a particle.

Haha.

I think the more balanced view is that Jesus is the perfect representation of God's image.
Through obedience, He is exalted to a position that humankind has not experienced since pre-fall Adam.
"Man will not live off of bread alone, but by every word proceeding through the mouth of God." "You are not able to serve God and wealth.".

User Info: Garioshi

Garioshi
1 month ago#5
WelshGamer82 posted...
It’s taken 17 centuries, but finally it’s been disproved.

Absolutely smashed it, m8.

Thanks

User Info: kozlo100

kozlo100
1 month ago#6
You're assuming equality is transitive in this system when the axioms demonstrate that it is not.
Time flies like the wind,
and fruit flies like a banana.

User Info: Garioshi

Garioshi
1 month ago#7
kozlo100 posted...
You're assuming equality is transitive in this system when the axioms demonstrate that it is not.

Then, if you assume that transitivity of equality does not exist in this system, the system's axioms do not match the axioms of our universe (as we understand them) and either transitivity of equality does not exist in our universe, which would render most of our understanding of the world moot, or that the system (the Holy Trinity) is impossible in our universe.

User Info: kozlo100

kozlo100
1 month ago#8
You're trying too hard to cram a square peg into a round hole.

Nobody claims the triune god of Christianity exists within our universe, so it doesn't mess with our understanding of anything if transitivity doesn't apply to the Trinity.
Time flies like the wind,
and fruit flies like a banana.

User Info: Garioshi

Garioshi
1 month ago#9
kozlo100 posted...
You're trying too hard to cram a square peg into a round hole.

Nobody claims the triune god of Christianity exists within our universe, so it doesn't mess with our understanding of anything if transitivity doesn't apply to the Trinity.

If the triune god of Christianity doesn't exist within our universe, it doesn't exist. Period.

User Info: kozlo100

kozlo100
1 month ago#10
Garioshi posted...
If the triune god of Christianity doesn't exist within our universe, it doesn't exist. Period.


Christians would disagree with you on that particular point, so I kind of doubt that an argument requiring God to exist in this universe is going to be compelling to them.

I mean, you might as well just say the trinity is impossible because God doesn't exist for all the utility it's going to have in convincing people to change their minds.
Time flies like the wind,
and fruit flies like a banana.
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