Remember when they didn't tell you where to go for quests

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User Info: Grinning_Death

Grinning_Death
3 weeks ago#71
Amakusa posted...
Godly_Goof posted...
No, the biggest problem was when they started introducing bulls*** like gear score mods to the game. It was the single thing that drove me away from playing this back in WotLK because now every worthless sack of s*** had an arbitrary value to brag about and try and elevate themself above others.

If you're blaming Blizzard for someone's mod you've got your priorities out of order. Gear item level was in the game from the start; it took THAT long for someone to make such a mod because that value was hidden for most of BC (and if you were around for BC you definitely knew it was a thing when the Karazhan loot was too low a level compared to the Heroic dungeon loot).

In fact you could've verified it yourself on WoWhead, which actually showed the hidden item level on every item in the game.

And yes, Wowhead was a thing by BC. There's a Scryer NPC and a huge bunch of bookshelves with profession trainers in the Scryer District homaging it.


Iirc most people used the talent calculator on Wowhead in Vanilla.

User Info: firehockey91

firehockey91
3 weeks ago#72
Gearscore/Item Level is a cancer. Fortunately it only affects the PUG world. Once you're in a guild it doesn't matter at all.
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User Info: WoodenRook

WoodenRook
3 weeks ago#73
firehockey91 posted...
Gearscore/Item Level is a cancer. Fortunately it only affects the PUG world. Once you're in a guild it doesn't matter at all.


You were being carried, which is another flaw of 40 man raids and is why retail raiding is better. It's apparent who is pulling their weight or not.
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User Info: firehockey91

firehockey91
3 weeks ago#74
WoodenRook posted...
firehockey91 posted...
Gearscore/Item Level is a cancer. Fortunately it only affects the PUG world. Once you're in a guild it doesn't matter at all.


You were being carried, which is another flaw of 40 man raids and is why retail raiding is better. It's apparent who is pulling their weight or not.


what the hell are you talking about?
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User Info: IchabodCranium

IchabodCranium
3 weeks ago#75
I never liked Quest Helper.

One of many, many "conveniences" developed by and for people who couldn't be bothered to, y'know, play the **** game.
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User Info: Sparksfanboy

Sparksfanboy
3 weeks ago#76
Every god damn time it's some small thing I missed and I've been sweeping large swathes of land way out of the way of where I'm supposed to be scyther
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Well potassium to you too, dude!

User Info: SilentZed

SilentZed
3 weeks ago#77
firehockey91 posted...
Gearscore/Item Level is a cancer.

The addon itself, or the concept of what it does is not cancer. It was the community that turned it into something ugly or used it as a justification for severe segregation based on unreasonable standard.

Even things like DPS meters got a bad rap when they were legitimately useful tools, particularly for raid leaders to find where performance is lacking, where people screwed up, and where they needed to improve.
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User Info: firehockey91

firehockey91
3 weeks ago#78
SilentZed posted...
firehockey91 posted...
Gearscore/Item Level is a cancer.

The addon itself, or the concept of what it does is not cancer. It was the community that turned it into something ugly or used it as a justification for severe segregation based on unreasonable standard.

Even things like DPS meters got a bad rap when they were legitimately useful tools, particularly for raid leaders to find where performance is lacking, where people screwed up, and where they needed to improve.


Things ilvl doesn’t tell you:
1) source of gear. I can’t tell you how many wipes have been caused by high ilvl players in all Argus gear.
2) stat optimization: I.e. people wearing any s*** that will boost level to secure a spot in a group.
3) talent set up
4) parses
5) kill counts

I stand by what I said. It’s a cancer
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User Info: FrozenHELL78

FrozenHELL78
3 weeks ago#79
LinkofHyrule991 posted...
Remember when they'd just tell you to "kill sabercats and bring back 10 blood", but the blood had a 10% drop rate. Also they didn't tell you that the blood is only dropped by Sabercat Hunters, and Hunters spawned only 25% of the time. So you had to constantly clear out all the Sabercat Prowlers, Matriarchs, and Patriarchs that shared the same spawn but had 0% to drop the quest item.

*sniff* the memories.
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User Info: redundancies

redundancies
3 weeks ago#80
WoodenRook posted...
Yea, I remember that. It was behind the town in Silverpine. The one I'm remembering was the key to the shredder escort.

No, you're right about the aquatic form quest - but it was different for Alliance vs Horde. The Alliance version had you swim out to the end of nowhere off the coast of Westfall; Horde-side was much easier as the Silverpine area wasn't as far out. I still remember it taking me a while to find it, even with Alla's help.
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