13 years in, we've gotten 3 tank specs, 1 healing spec, 0 ranged dps specs

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User Info: Mr_Biscuit

Mr_Biscuit
3 weeks ago#1
and 4 melee dps specs.

Man. Suppose I’m just stating the obvious, but it’s kinda shocking how stacked it has been towards “frontliners.” The only spec we’ve gotten since 2004 that isn’t in your face is Mistweaver, and even they have dabbled in Fistweaving.

Why do you suppose that is?
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User Info: Mr_Biscuit

Mr_Biscuit
3 weeks ago#2
Though I suppose to answer my own question, in TOTAL we have

6 tanks
6 healers
11 ranged
13 melee

So it’s not too crazy. Still.
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User Info: rawkuss

rawkuss
3 weeks ago#3
Well I think it’s mainly to try and make the lfg queues better. DPS have to wait on tanks and heals so by having more tanks and heal options available, ideally more people use them.

Looking at tanks, I guess they haven’t figured out how to make a ranged tank yet so the tanks being introduced will just have melee dps secondary specs.

User Info: Godly_Goof

Godly_Goof
3 weeks ago#4
rawkuss posted...
Well I think it’s mainly to try and make the lfg queues better. DPS have to wait on tanks and heals so by having more tanks and heal options available, ideally more people use them.

Looking at tanks, I guess they haven’t figured out how to make a ranged tank yet so the tanks being introduced will just have melee dps secondary specs.

Because "ranged tanks" dont work. Even if you pull at a range its still eventually going to be in your face and then youll be melee tanking it regardless unless they retool the whole game with the exception of a very select few enemies.
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User Info: Aunadar

Aunadar
3 weeks ago#5
rawkuss posted...
Well I think it’s mainly to try and make the lfg queues better..


Did you know LFR (at least back when I played) ~80% of the time fills your group with 1 tank, 1 healer, 2 melee DPS and a range DPS?

Unless that was just a coincidence. Happened enough during WoD/Legion while I was tanking for me to notice.

User Info: Aceron

Aceron
3 weeks ago#6
If you count the survival revamp, we've actually gotten -1 ranged DPS specs.
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WoodenRook
3 weeks ago#7
I don't think they balance off these numbers. You can look at almost anything and find some stat that makes it look bad.
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User Info: Pokeymuns

Pokeymuns
3 weeks ago#8
Aceron posted...
If you count the survival revamp, we've actually gotten -1 ranged DPS specs.

I found that quite weird to be honest, but I suppose it was also a good time for it.

Ever since "ranged weapon stat sticks" were removed, the only class that actually used bows/guns/crossbows were hunters.
And with the Survival change, one of their three specs began using polearms, a reasonably contested weapon type.
It only worked because Legion's artifact system made weapon drops a non-issue, but it was still plenty weird for Mists/Warlords where they still had to design a bunch of physical ranged weapons that only one class could make use of.

User Info: Theshamen

Theshamen
3 weeks ago#9
Pokeymuns posted...
Aceron posted...
If you count the survival revamp, we've actually gotten -1 ranged DPS specs.

I found that quite weird to be honest, but I suppose it was also a good time for it.

Ever since "ranged weapon stat sticks" were removed, the only class that actually used bows/guns/crossbows were hunters.
And with the Survival change, one of their three specs began using polearms, a reasonably contested weapon type.
It only worked because Legion's artifact system made weapon drops a non-issue, but it was still plenty weird for Mists/Warlords where they still had to design a bunch of physical ranged weapons that only one class could make use of.


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CellBlock7
3 weeks ago#10
I'm still mad that Demon Hunter's weren't given a ranged spec that used dual wielded crossbows and instead were given a tank spec.
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