Ev Training is cheating? How do you feel when someone says that?
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While I dont particularly dislike the concept of EV itself, I dislike EV training because it's INCREDIBLY tedious to keep track of it. In addition, there's no real easy way of doing it and you're just gonna hope for the best. Even the EV Checker in-game can only tell you an estimate.
Rather than recording the actual number of EV points gained in real time, I find it easier just to track the total number of attack PPs used during the EV-training process. If the Pokemon that I'm EV-training is not powerful enough to OHKO the wild Pokemon that I should be training on, then I will always switch to a stronger Pokemon at the start of each wild Pokemon encounter. Of course, this can lead to heavy usage of healing items, but I don't mind.
As an example, let's suppose I want my Kyurem-B to have 252 Speed EVs. After feeding it 10 Carbos, infecting it with Pokerus, and giving it a Macho Brace to hold, the Kyurem-B would only need to KO 19 Basculin to finish EV-training its Speed stat. So I would then battle against wild Basculin until Kyurem-B has consumed a total of 19 damage-inflicting PPs.
If EV training is cheating then leveling your pokemon is also cheating... Just saying.
Ya its really monotonous but your not forced to do it unless you want to be super competitive and if you want to be competitive then just EV train, its really not even that hard.
And the far more annoying part at that point isnt the EVs its the fact that knowing that some pokemon are just better than others so just because you WANT to use one doesnt mean its FEESABLE to use the one you want.
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considering the amount of ingame items that boost ev's one way or another I dont see how it even can be considered cheating
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EV training itself is obviously not cheating (I EV train all the time by myself), but I've always thought it was interesting how people differentiate between EV training and RNG manipulation/perfect-IV breeding.
Theoretically, one could legitimately find out through experience. Eg, defeating one hundred Magikarp with one Pokemon, and that one is much faster at level 100 than the rest of your team, so you repeat with another and find the same results. Although it would be much more tedious and unlikely, it is a possibility.
For IV's and EV's we now have the IV checker, who tells you how good your best stats and nature value alongside Bianca who tells you when you're done EV training in a stat. Alongside that there are Power items, the Everstone trick, vitamins, and the Cafe/Fitness center Join avenue shops. Not to mention the feathers. You don't even have to battle anything to get max EV's now. It might take a few days, but it's possible to avoid battling to EV train entirely. So no, you don't have to know which Pokemon give out which EV's in order to EV train.
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WolfJounin posted...emolsifier posted...I do have to wonder, which legendaries were on his team. as badass as lucario is, I would think that with 6 of them he'd at least be able to whittle it down.
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emolsifier posted...I do have to wonder, which legendaries were on his team. as badass as lucario is, I would think that with 6 of them he'd at least be able to whittle it down.
To be fair, that's the only things it could learn worth using without using TMs. I sincerely think the reason most early childhood movesets were so bad is in part due to not wanting to waste TMs.
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Empiror posted...WolfJounin posted...emolsifier posted...I do have to wonder, which legendaries were on his team. as badass as lucario is, I would think that with 6 of them he'd at least be able to whittle it down.
It's called trading.
At any rate, I was smarter than that. My Red version Charizard knew Fire Blast, Earthquake, Flamethrower, and Fly.
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