Halo 5 X1X Update Detailed by 343; Higher Res Textures But Likely Limited HDR

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User Info: Discharged19DCS

Discharged19DCS
2 months ago#31
quincy2000a posted...
agentspoon posted...
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/75465077

Second post down is you agreeing that the X1X cant do 4K60 FPS.

What is the highest level you achieved in school...? That is not what that says...

agentspoon posted...
Edit - Just now, you said in post 131 "the X1X still can't escape checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps performance"
So what your saying is that the X1X cant do 4K/60FPS?

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/75792173?page=3

Dude, what I have always said is this...and it hasn't changed...

quincy2000a posted...
Now, what I did say, and what you 'bone zealots don't seem to want to accept, is that there will be checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps titles on both the Pro and the X1X...so they are in the same boat in that regard...admittedly, less on the X1X, but they both suffer those particular weaknesses...can you read this chart...?

https://mspoweruser.com/list-games-run-better-xbox-one-x-playstation-4-pro/ e:ra


Use your noggin...why would I ever say the X1X can't do 4k/60fps...? It's common knowledge (amongst more discerning gamers) that the Pro can do 4k/60fps...why would I ever say that a console being released a year later...with at least a year more of development...and costing $100-$150 more than the Pro couldn't do 4k/60fps...? You're being a little silly...actually a lot...


Laylow12 posted...
Dynamic Resolution? Must be the devs fault.... oh wait, it's 343.

.

The exact quote from the Scorpio video is...

...the highest rez...the best framerate...no compromises...

Games being released for the X1X are full of compromises...personally, that's fine with me...but I'm not oblivious to what the facts are as many here are...


Now this s***ty troll has moved to MORE than 1 year in development and $150 more. It's parody.

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Battleship_Gray
2 months ago#32
quincy2000a posted...
What is the highest level you achieved in school...?

One that taught me how to use ellipses.
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knight1014139
2 months ago#33
Battleship_Gray posted...
quincy2000a posted...
What is the highest level you achieved in school...?

One that taught me how to use ellipses.
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User Info: CRIMSON-XIII

CRIMSON-XIII
2 months ago#34
agentspoon posted...
But the X1X cant do 4K/60 FPS!

f***ing LIES!

do you think halo 6 will be 4k and native 60? or gears 5
no game compares to Horizon Zero Dawn, Spider Man, SOTC, FFVII:Remake, Kingdom Hearts 3, Death Stranding, Red Dead Redemption 2, Anthem, Beyond Good and Evil 2.

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bojangles22
2 months ago#35
Solis posted...
quincy2000a posted...
agentspoon posted...
But the X1X cant do 4K/60 FPS!

f***ing LIES!

Why who ever said that...? I think you should produce the links so we can all see who said that...

Personally, I said things such as this back on September 2..

Now, what I did say, and what you 'bone zealots don't seem to want to accept, is that there will be checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps titles on both the Pro and the X1X...so they are in the same boat in that regard...admittedly, less on the X1X, but they both suffer those particular weaknesses...can you read this chart...?

https://mspoweruser.com/list-games-run-better-xbox-one-x-playstation-4-pro/ e:ra


https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/75723679?page=1

Because as any avid gamer that is keeping up with specs knows, both the X1X and the Pro can do 4k/60fps...but most games on both will not be 4k/60fps and will probably checkerboard too...#sameboat...

Let us not forget, just as these journalists said...

Like Sonys top console, the Xbox One X is not quite powerful enough to deliver 4K / 60fps on every title, so expect to see a bit of adjustment and cross***ch rendering to close the gap.

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/251999-new-details-define-promise-limits-xbox-one-xs-4k-performance e:ra

"Like Sony's top console"...#sameboat...

We should DEFINITELY follow the advice of someone that uses a phrase like "you 'bone zealots". Or maybe you're just ignorant and are covering it up by trying to insult people?

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The_Hedon
2 months ago#36
quincy2000a posted...
seems that Phil's confusing 4k TV messaging is hurting X1X sales as much as the expensive $500 console price...


The Xbox One X Project Scorpio Edition Sold Out Much Quicker Than Microsoft Expected
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2017/08/24/the-xbox-one-x-project-scorpio-edition-sold-out-much-quicker-than-microsoft-expected/#3e2dac431219

Xbox One X is Fastest-Selling Xbox Pre-Order Ever
https://news.xbox.com/2017/08/25/xbox-one-x-project-scorpio-edition-fastest-selling-xbox/#91Ll6h48FwLrqkCh.99

Xbox One X tops charts around the world beating PlayStation 4 Pro
https://mspoweruser.com/xbox-one-x-project-scorpio-edition-preorders-sell-amazon-us-hour/

Microsofts Xbox One X takes the lead on Amazons charts
https://www.onmsft.com/news/microsofts-xbox-one-x-is-takes-the-lead-on-amazons-charts

Xbox One X selling out globally
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/gaming/230229-xbox-one-x-selling-out-globally.html
#differentboat

User Info: The_Hedon

The_Hedon
2 months ago#37
CRIMSON-XIII posted...
agentspoon posted...
But the X1X cant do 4K/60 FPS!

f***ing LIES!

do you think halo 6 will be 4k and native 60? or gears 5


All first-party Microsoft games will run at native 4K on the Scorpio
https://www.destructoid.com/all-first-party-microsoft-games-will-run-at-native-4k-on-the-scorpio-387879.phtml

They also said that games that are 30fps will be 30fps. Games that are 60fps will be 60fps.

Phil also said:

"That was explicit in the beginning for the design of the Xbox One X was a native 4K console that can hit frame rates that the developers wanted to hit. Some of them will hit 60, some of them will do 30, some will do checkboarding and their games will look amazing. That's the target for the platform: let the developers do the work that they're going to do."

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/58046/xbox-mandate-60fps-one/index.html
#differentboat

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Pizzatarian
2 months ago#38
quincy2000a posted...
Now, what I did say, and what you 'bone zealots don't seem to want to accept, is that there will be checkerboarding and sub 4k/60fps titles on both the Pro and the X1X...so they are in the same boat in that regard...admittedly, less on the X1X, but they both suffer those particular weaknesses...can you read this chart...?

https://mspoweruser.com/list-games-run-better-xbox-one-x-playstation-4-pro/ e:ra


Looks to me like people have accepted the fact that there will be checkerboarding and 30fps on the One X.

In my opinion, it also looks like some are pointing out (in this topic and others) how the "refined gamer" went from focusing on the differences between the Xbox One and PS4 to pointing out the similarities between the One X and Pro.
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quincy2000a
2 months ago#39
The_Hedon posted...
Xbox One X selling out globally
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/gaming/230229-xbox-one-x-selling-out-globally.html

Microsoft boasts about Xbox One X sales without giving numbers
Stop us if you've heard this before.
https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/25/microsoft-boasts-xbox-one-x-sales-no-numbers/ e:ra


Comments from 2017 (after the truth was revealed)...
The_Hedon posted...
They also said that games that are 30fps will be 30fps. Games that are 60fps will be 60fps.


Comments and video from 2016 (before the truth was revealed)...
It's great to finally have confirmation that the Xbox Scorpio is designed for console gaming at 4K 60 FPS and not at 4K 30 FPS as many suspected. Albert is a first-hand source who's closest to the project. This is good news for all gamers wanting to get the premium console next year.

Didn't Albert give them the full story...?

Microsoft's Albert Penello confirms Xbox Scorpio can handle 4K 60 FPS gaming
http://www.icxm.net/x/ticgn-interview-albert-panello-xbox-scorpio-confirms-xbox-4k-60-fps.html e:ra


And straight from the horses' mouths...

"...the highest rez..the best framerate...no compromises..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1dRgWpGePs

...but now there appears to be not only compromised framerates but also compromised 4k...
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User Info: The_Hedon

The_Hedon
2 months ago#40
quincy2000a posted...
Comments from 2017 (after the truth was revealed)...
The_Hedon posted...
They also said that games that are 30fps will be 30fps. Games that are 60fps will be 60fps.


Comments and video from 2016 (before the truth was revealed)...
It's great to finally have confirmation that the Xbox Scorpio is designed for console gaming at 4K 60 FPS and not at 4K 30 FPS as many suspected. Albert is a first-hand source who's closest to the project. This is good news for all gamers wanting to get the premium console next year.

Didn't Albert give them the full story...?

Microsoft's Albert Penello confirms Xbox Scorpio can handle 4K 60 FPS gaming
http://www.icxm.net/x/ticgn-interview-albert-panello-xbox-scorpio-confirms-xbox-4k-60-fps.html e:ra


And straight from the horses' mouths...

"...the highest rez..the best framerate...no compromises..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1dRgWpGePs

...but now there appears to be not only compromised framerates but also compromised 4k...


Straight from the horses mouth, #different boat

Microsoft: 'There Wouldn't Be A Frame Rate Difference' Between Xbox One And Scorpio - 2016

http://wccftech.com/xbox-scorpio-exclusives-wont-frame-rate-difference-scorpio-xbox/

While resolution will most certainly be higher on Scorpio, we can't report the same for frame rate. Loftis says that developers will continue to choose frame rate to fit their gameplay design, and that might not be unlocked or even 60 frames per second. We asked specifically whether there will be different frame rates for the same game running on Xbox One and Scorpio. "No, there wouldn't be a frame rate difference, because typically the frame rate is determined by the game developer and what's right for the gameplay mechanic," Loftis explains. "You don't necessarily want to create two different mechanics for two different configurations."

We asked about what happens when Xbox One games are only capable of sub-60 frame performance and whether Scorpio would be pinned to the lower spec in that regard. "Typically, yes. A good example is Killer Instinct, which is cross-play on PC and Xbox One. We have locked the frame rate to 60 frames per second," Loftis says. "We could do better on super high end PCs, but that ruins the competitive nature of it."

Project Scorpio: Xbox chief on Microsoft's plans for console domination
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/27/project-scorpio-xbox-chief-microsoft-plans-console

According to Spencer a key aim has been to give developers the options to support Scorpio the way they want and Microsoft is therefore guarded about setting performance targets. However, in a recent interview with Gamasutra, Spencer mentioned a specific benchmark for Scorpio titles: native 4K resolution, 30 frames-per-second. How did that figure come about? We looked at games on Xbox One that were running at 30-frames-per-second in 1080p, or sometimes 900p, and we said, If youre running at 1080 30 on Xbox, we want to make sure that we give you the hardware capability to run at 30 in 4K, he says. The only reason I focused on 30fps is because we have a lot of those on Xbox One.
#differentboat
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