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4 years ago#51
From: DoctorJimmy133 | Posted: 3/14/2013 6:56:39 PM | #050
Gyarados is every bit as much of a dragon as Charizard. Heck, I'd say even more so.

Gyarados is literally based on the legend of the carp that gained status as a dragon only to have it taken away for being too brutal. He is not a dragon.
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4 years ago#52
A European Fire Dragon: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120326191357/dragonwisdom/images/1/16/Red_Eurpean_Dragon.jpg

Charizard: http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/031/6/6/charizard___red_by_lord_phillock-d38hfw0.jpg

How can you say Charizard is NOT a dragon?

He's as dragon-y as any other Dragon out there, I mean, he and Dragonite are actually quite similar in appearance, is Dragonite not a dragon either?

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4 years ago#53
Charizard looks more like a dragon than Dragonite does, IMO >_>

And more like a dragon than Flygon or Altaria, for that matter.

But IDC if he's considered a dragon or not. w/e.
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4 years ago#54
Gyarados is literally (?) based on the legend of the carp that gained status as a dragon

Case in point. Gyarados never lost its dragon status. If it did, then it never had it.
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4 years ago#55
How the hell did this topic go off to a "Charizard is a dragon" argument topic?

Can we get back to the main point? What do you think of my type predictions, what are yours?
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4 years ago#56
From: DoctorJimmy133 | Posted: 3/14/2013 7:57:15 PM | #054
Case in point. Gyarados never lost its dragon status

Then it's not a dragon.
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DoctorJimmy133
4 years ago#57
iKhanic posted...
How the hell did this topic go off to a "Charizard is a dragon" argument topic?

Can we get back to the main point? What do you think of my type predictions, what are yours?

From post #2 this thread has been about the validity of the Chinese Zodiac as a theme for the firestarters. I personally think it's a coincidence because Cyndaquil and Fennekin barely if at all fit their corresponding animals.

CM_Ponch posted...
From: DoctorJimmy133 | Posted: 3/14/2013 7:57:15 PM | #054
Case in point. Gyarados never lost its dragon status

Then it's not a dragon.

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I'm saying Gyarados's story stops once it starts rampaging. A carp becomes a dragon, then rampages. It's that simple. Why must it lose its dragon status - whatever that means - to be a dragon? Why must the final part of the legend be acknowledged?

It's just like Charizard being a dragon - It looks like a dragon, learns many Dragon-type moves and is used by Lance. Dragon. You were the one who brought up the legend that says pretty much outright that Gyarados is a dragon.

Seriously though, I have no idea what you're talking about.
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4 years ago#58
no no no
ur usin teh chinese zodiac
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CM_Ponch
4 years ago#59
From: DoctorJimmy133 | Posted: 3/14/2013 8:15:27 PM | #057
I'm saying Gyarados's story stops once it starts rampaging. A carp becomes a dragon, then rampages. It's that simple. Why must it lose its dragon status - whatever that means - to be a dragon? Why must the final part of the legend be acknowledged?

Because it's the entire reason it's not a dragon type. GF didn't just make it water/flying because they thought it'd be funny. They made it Water/Flying to show it wasn't a dragon and that it lined up with the legend. That's why the status of dragon is important.

It's just like Charizard being a dragon - It looks like a dragon, learns many Dragon-type moves and is used by Lance

Lance also uses Aerodactyl, doesn't mean it's a dragon.

You were the one who brought up the legend that says pretty much outright that Gyarados is a dragon.

No, it says the exact opposite.
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4 years ago#60
TC points out something interesting that nobody has noticed before, and people are arguing about stupid things.

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