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User Info: Windyligth

Windyligth
3 years ago#41
zelionx posted...
>pokemon
>sense


This is a poor poor poor poor POOR argument.

Alright. Let's let Fire type hit Water for SE. CAUSE F*** COMMON SENSE, IT'S POKEMON.
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User Info: J_Applei

J_Applei
3 years ago#42
LordChewbacca posted...
J_Applei posted...
zelionx posted...
Ok. Explain why sucker punch needs to be buffed. The burden of proof falls on the ones who want to make the change. And don't use "because i dont want it to fail after being hit by priority" because that makes it balanced. What's that saying again: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" Sucker Punch is already a good move so there is no point in buffing it


It doesn't need to be buffed. It would just make more sense if it got this buff. Plus it's not like it'd be game-breaking or anything because it still retains its dark typing and 8 PP.


Under these changes would it still act as per only dealing damage if the opponent uses an attacking move? Reading this topic makes me think people just want it to be a +2 priority attack like extreme speed but with the bonus of being dark type.


That would still apply obviously. If it didn't then why would it be called Sucker Punch?
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Snorlax_exlax
3 years ago#43
Windyligth posted...
zelionx posted...
>pokemon
>sense


This is a poor poor poor poor POOR argument.

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Pram_the_Oracle
3 years ago#44
Nah

You still need to prepare for the attack in order to get ready to land the hit.

An attack that is too fast to counter can't be countered.

It's not like Sucker Punch is a trap that automatically triggers, it's a physical action done by the pokemon. Of course if it's too slow it can't nail the enemy first.
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User Info: zelionx

zelionx
3 years ago#45
Pram_the_Oracle posted...
Nah

You still need to prepare for the attack in order to get ready to land the hit.

An attack that is too fast to counter can't be countered.

It's not like Sucker Punch is a trap that automatically triggers, it's a physical action done by the pokemon. Of course if it's too slow it can't nail the enemy first.


This

It would make more "sense" for sucker punch to be zero priority because a pokemon like mawile that is slow AF wouldn't be able to ambush a fast pokemon like talonflame even without gale wings irl
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J_Applei
3 years ago#46
zelionx posted...
It would make more "sense" for sucker punch to be zero priority because a pokemon like mawile that is slow AF wouldn't be able to ambush a fast pokemon like talonflame even without gale wings irl


But that makes too much sense for Pokemon.
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zelionx
3 years ago#47
J_Applei posted...
zelionx posted...
It would make more "sense" for sucker punch to be zero priority because a pokemon like mawile that is slow AF wouldn't be able to ambush a fast pokemon like talonflame even without gale wings irl


But that makes too much sense for Pokemon.


Ok
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J_Applei
3 years ago#48
zelionx posted...
Ok

BurnedPotatoes posted...
Ok
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zane0144
3 years ago#49
I think a lot of people in this topic don't realize that Sucker Punch fails if something uses Quick attack and outspeeds it. That being said, D

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J_Applei
3 years ago#50
zane0144 posted...
I think a lot of people in this topic don't realize that Sucker Punch fails if something uses Quick attack and outspeeds it. That being said, D

D D Deny


Which was the point of this buff. So it wouldn't fail when an opponent is using an attacking move (unless the opponent uses Extremespeed or Sucker Punch and is faster or uses Fake Out).
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