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User Info: jamstaere08

jamstaere08
3 years ago#11
I usually play VGC, anyway, incase you were wondering
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User Info: SirPikachu

SirPikachu
3 years ago#12
jamstaere08 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Smogon analysis, in case you want more info. This is for OU singles:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor.3506080/

And this is for VGC:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor.3500053/


Is X-Scissor really a necessity? I never really find myself using it. I'd prefer Roost/Protect/BP/SD. I just don't see not having X-Scissor being a huge hinderance in most situations.


Bug Bite is much better because of Technician.
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User Info: celticpride6

celticpride6
3 years ago#13
jamstaere08 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Smogon analysis, in case you want more info. This is for OU singles:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor.3506080/

And this is for VGC:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor.3500053/


Is X-Scissor really a necessity? I never really find myself using it. I'd prefer Roost/Protect/BP/SD. I just don't see not having X-Scissor being a huge hinderance in most situations.


I use BP, Knock off, SD and Roost. Bug Bite gets the Technician boost, which makes it a better option then X-Scissor. Why are you using Protect?
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User Info: jamstaere08

jamstaere08
3 years ago#14
celticpride6 posted...
jamstaere08 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Smogon analysis, in case you want more info. This is for OU singles:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor.3506080/

And this is for VGC:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor.3500053/


Is X-Scissor really a necessity? I never really find myself using it. I'd prefer Roost/Protect/BP/SD. I just don't see not having X-Scissor being a huge hinderance in most situations.


I use BP, Knock off, SD and Roost. Bug Bite gets the Technician boost, which makes it a better option then X-Scissor. Why are you using Protect?


Doubles, to stop it getting melted by ZardY. Knock Off and Bug Bite would be better for it, undoubtably. Maybe I'll go to the trade board and get someone to gen one for me.
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User Info: ZeldaTPLink

ZeldaTPLink
3 years ago#15
SirPikachu posted...
jamstaere08 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Smogon analysis, in case you want more info. This is for OU singles:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor.3506080/

And this is for VGC:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor.3500053/


Is X-Scissor really a necessity? I never really find myself using it. I'd prefer Roost/Protect/BP/SD. I just don't see not having X-Scissor being a huge hinderance in most situations.


Bug Bite is much better because of Technician.


Taken from a post in the VGC analysis:

B2W2 Tutors are not allowed as all Pokemon in VGC 2014 need to be born or caught in the kalos region.
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User Info: ZeldaTPLink

ZeldaTPLink
3 years ago#16
Also, this is for Smogon Doubles. Which is different from VGC because it doesn't have the "kalos bred" rule, though it has the usual smogon rules (evasion clause, etc).

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor-qc-2-3.3496441/
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User Info: jamstaere08

jamstaere08
3 years ago#17
ZeldaTPLink posted...
SirPikachu posted...
jamstaere08 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Smogon analysis, in case you want more info. This is for OU singles:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor.3506080/

And this is for VGC:

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor.3500053/


Is X-Scissor really a necessity? I never really find myself using it. I'd prefer Roost/Protect/BP/SD. I just don't see not having X-Scissor being a huge hinderance in most situations.


Bug Bite is much better because of Technician.


Taken from a post in the VGC analysis:

B2W2 Tutors are not allowed as all Pokemon in VGC 2014 need to be born or caught in the kalos region.


I'm aware of this, but the VGC ladder isn't back until September (I think). I'll use non-Kalos pokes on the doubles ladder, but I prefer to stick as closely as possible to the VGC guidelines.
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User Info: jamstaere08

jamstaere08
3 years ago#18
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Also, this is for Smogon Doubles. Which is different from VGC because it doesn't have the "kalos bred" rule, though it has the usual smogon rules (sleep clause, etc).

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor-qc-2-3.3496441/


I've never looked into Smogon doubles, is it essentially the same as singles, i.e. tiers and bans?
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User Info: ZeldaTPLink

ZeldaTPLink
3 years ago#19
jamstaere08 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Also, this is for Smogon Doubles. Which is different from VGC because it doesn't have the "kalos bred" rule, though it has the usual smogon rules (sleep clause, etc).

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor-qc-2-3.3496441/


I've never looked into Smogon doubles, is it essentially the same as singles, i.e. tiers and bans?


I don't play it, but the rules are similar. It's less restrictive though. The banlist is smaller:


Arceus
Dialga
Giratina
Giratina-O
Groudon
Ho-Oh
Kyogre
Kyurem-W
Lugia
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Reshiram
Xerneas
Yveltal
Zekrom

They are currently suspect testing Mega Khangaskhan, too.

It also doesn't have Sleep Clause or Swagger Clause (yes I said they had sleep clause in the last post but I forgot they unbanned it).

Though Dark Void is banned.
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User Info: jamstaere08

jamstaere08
3 years ago#20
ZeldaTPLink posted...
jamstaere08 posted...
ZeldaTPLink posted...
Also, this is for Smogon Doubles. Which is different from VGC because it doesn't have the "kalos bred" rule, though it has the usual smogon rules (sleep clause, etc).

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scizor-qc-2-3.3496441/


I've never looked into Smogon doubles, is it essentially the same as singles, i.e. tiers and bans?


I don't play it, but the rules are similar. It's less restrictive though. The banlist is smaller:


Arceus
Dialga
Giratina
Giratina-O
Groudon
Ho-Oh
Kyogre
Kyurem-W
Lugia
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Reshiram
Xerneas
Yveltal
Zekrom

They are currently suspect testing Mega Khangaskhan, too.

It also doesn't have Sleep Clause or Swagger Clause (yes I said they had sleep clause in the last post but I forgot they unbanned it).

Though Dark Void is banned.


Hmm, that sounds quite good actually. Dark Void has really been getting on my nerves lately, and I doubt many people would miss M-Khan.
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