Freedom, Liberty, Ron Paul - Freedom isn't dead, it just smells funny [dwmf]

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User Info: Kenri

Kenri
1 week ago#261
SantaRPidgey posted...
Ok so your definition is like, verge of blacked out. If that's the case then I guess I've never been drunk or been around drunk people before.

Yeah I guess but also you don't need to be drunk to not be able to give informed consent, so I had to walk it back in my double post (which was supposed to be an edit "whoops") in light of that.

But yeah I'd say being drunk precludes you from giving informed consent.
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User Info: SantaRPidgey

SantaRPidgey
1 week ago#262
foolm0r0n posted...
I can personally attest this is false


Wow good thing we didn't have that threesome!
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User Info: SmartMuffin

SmartMuffin
1 week ago#263
http://reason.com/blog/2017/04/19/dad-and-daughter-hauled-off-plane-becaus

I've seen a lot of media spinning this as "UNITED AIRLINES HARASSES A FATHER FOR NO REASON" to pile on a corporation, but the whole sex trafficking hysteria has been reported on by reason a lot and is entirely government driven (in an attempt to maintain popular support for keeping prostitution illegal)
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User Info: foolm0r0n

foolm0r0n
1 week ago#264
SantaRPidgey posted...
Wow good thing we didn't have that threesome!

I would've settled with two individual twosomes but you c***blocked me
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foolm0r0n
1 week ago#265
https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexcampbell/under-maryland-rape-law-no-will-finally-mean-no

Oh yeah here's an example of JD's "perfectly good" rape definition
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User Info: SmartMuffin

SmartMuffin
1 week ago#266
One reason was Maryland's rape law, which required not only a lack of consent on the part of the victim, but also "force or the threat of force" by the assailant.

...

In one case, a woman reported that a man forced her to have sex several times. She said she told him no repeatedly, and he told her, “If you scream, I will kill you.” She said he dragged her around and raped her on a gravel road. Yet police marked her case unfounded, writing that she did not try “to push, kick, or use any other force.”


Sounds like the cops are just incompetent. The law already included "threat of force", so situations like this were already covered. But don't worry, I'm sure passing more laws that the police can just ignore if they feel like will totally solve the problem.

And police will no longer have the authority to label cases as unfounded. Prosecutors will make those decisions instead.

Why should we believe prosecutors are more knowledgeable about the basic facts of a case, or more likely to demand charges be pressed if the evidence is weak? If anything it's the opposite. Police are incentivized to make arrests, but prosecutors are incentivized to win.
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User Info: SmartMuffin

SmartMuffin
1 week ago#267
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/855043916298629121
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User Info: Mr Lasastryke

Mr Lasastryke
1 week ago#268
SmartMuffin posted...
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/855043916298629121


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User Info: CeraSeptem

CeraSeptem
1 week ago#269
SmartMuffin posted...
One reason was Maryland's rape law, which required not only a lack of consent on the part of the victim, but also "force or the threat of force" by the assailant.

...

In one case, a woman reported that a man forced her to have sex several times. She said she told him no repeatedly, and he told her, “If you scream, I will kill you.” She said he dragged her around and raped her on a gravel road. Yet police marked her case unfounded, writing that she did not try “to push, kick, or use any other force.”


Sounds like the cops are just incompetent. The law already included "threat of force", so situations like this were already covered. But don't worry, I'm sure passing more laws that the police can just ignore if they feel like will totally solve the problem.

And police will no longer have the authority to label cases as unfounded. Prosecutors will make those decisions instead.

Why should we believe prosecutors are more knowledgeable about the basic facts of a case, or more likely to demand charges be pressed if the evidence is weak? If anything it's the opposite. Police are incentivized to make arrests, but prosecutors are incentivized to win.

This is literally two contradictory points.
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User Info: SmartMuffin

SmartMuffin
1 week ago#270
Not really. There are two possible solutions.

One is "force the police to enforce the law properly." This involves not passing new laws, but changing how police are evaluated and judged. Modifying internal police department standards and procedures. Stuff like that. Apparently this was not even considered.

Second is "shift the responsibility to someone you expect to do a better job." They did the "shift the responsibility" part, but I see no reason to expect prosecutors would do a better job of this. In fact, based on the incentives involved, you'd probably expect them to do worse.
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