Hypothetical Mercs Topic, S2 Topic 2: Pure Imagination

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User Info: DeathChicken

DeathChicken
2 months ago#21
So basically Wolverine probably beats most hand-to-hand slugfest fighters just because he gets to be cheap and bypass your defense with adamantium. He loses to anyone who can keepaway range him all day, or otherwise are Eric and can out-regen him
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User Info: Johnbobb

Johnbobb
2 months ago#22
Oh buuuuuull

In Wolverine v. Jean Grey she is literally disintegrating the flesh from his body that he's regrowing in real time

And getting knocked out by a bullet is not cut and dry because literally every other time he faces gunners he no-sells them. This is a guy who has survived multiple wars on the front line by directly running at gunners and slicing them apart.
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User Info: DeathChicken

DeathChicken
2 months ago#23
Except he doesn't? Pretty much anytime he gets shot he goes down. A bullet to the head does it in the first movie. A shotgun does it in Logan. He inevitably gets up because people are dumb and let him heal, but fact remains
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DeathChicken
2 months ago#24
Correction, it was X-2. Still, a handgun from a generic cop puts him out for close to two minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfEOlFVSYcA
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User Info: redrocket_pub

redrocket_pub
2 months ago#25
DeathChicken posted...
Correction, it was X-2. Still, a handgun from a generic cop puts him out for close to two minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfEOlFVSYcA


Indiana Jones > Wolverine

Wolverine pulls out his claws.

Indy pulls out his pistol and shoots him.

Indy wins. Flawless victory.

https://youtu.be/7YyBtMxZgQs
Blasting off
(edited 2 months ago)

User Info: DeathChicken

DeathChicken
2 months ago#26
Realized this is one of the mercs where it should probably specify Leon and Mathilda are the Director's Cut versions, since that adds scenes of Mathilda actually going on assassinations
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User Info: Johnbobb

Johnbobb
2 months ago#27
ok so I really didn't think I'd have to explain why Wolverine doesn't go down to generic gunners, BUT HERE WE ARE APPARENTLY

Wolverine shrugging off being shot in the head:
https://gfycat.com/SmugAgreeableCalf

Shot several times, responds like a bug bite:
https://gfycat.com/MintyFatherlyCobra

Shot a whole bunch of times BEFORE adamantium, is slightly irritated:
https://gfycat.com/WeepyDefenselessHackee

Just f***ing no-sells automatic gunfire:
https://gfycat.com/TartEdibleEnglishpointer

SURVIVES A LITERAL NUKE:
https://gfycat.com/RegularTenseHorsechestnutleafminer

Real-time regenerates his flesh as it's being disintegrated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgu2RCLUr-s&feature=youtu.be&t=25s

Like please think about this for a second because this one is KIND OF ridiculous.

Even if you think that shot to the head is typical for Wolverine (which it REALLY isn't, because any other time he shakes off bullets). How do you think Wolverine's dying? Those bullets aren't piercing his adamantium skull. Any wounds he gets from a 4 just heals, very quickly.

For comparison, look at Deadpool. He has a healing factor, but breaking his limbs and losing a hand basically put him out of service for a day while they grew back. So for the purposes of Mercs, if you, say, slice his head off, then sure he may eventually survive a day or two later, but for the purposes of the match, he's out of service.

With Wolverine, that doesn't happen. You're not slicing off his head or breaking his bones unless you can cut through adamantium (which, in the film's canon, is literally the strongest substance in the world).

So take that Power Rangers v. Wolverine thing. Power Rangers win? What exactly could they do that would kill him? Nothing in their arsenal does more than slightly wound him, which he can immediately recover from. Wolverine v. Megazord would be a more fair battle, and Wolverine still probably wins that (in the training room in X2, he solos a Sentinel, which is pretty much the same thing).

Now take Wolverine v. Cyclops. The only way I can see that going to Cyclops is if you think Cyclops' beams can cut through adamantium, which I don't think anything in the films would support.

To kill Wolverine (or remove him from battle) you need one of the following:
-Enough strength to break the strongest material known to man OR enough strength to send him flying into the sun or something
-Powerful magic that can drain his life force or TK him underwater until he drowns
-Very specific power over metal (which as of now I think only Static has unless we decide to make a Magneto merc)

Nobody below a 5 has any of that, and even most 6s don't have it.
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User Info: DeathChicken

DeathChicken
2 months ago#28
And yet in that same "Survived a nuke!" movie he gets knocked out by a bunch of ninjas filling him full of arrows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4HPKgyAyc

Now I'll give you it's rather silly the amount of arrows it takes to knock him out, but even that's something that non-uber Jason could have probably done better with
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User Info: FFDragon

FFDragon
2 months ago#29
doesn't he get shot in the head in another movie and it took a lot longer for him to get up

like, to the point where it would count as a KO if he was the last one on his team
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FFDragon
2 months ago#30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfEOlFVSYcA

yeah this one
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