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User Info: ZaruenKosai

ZaruenKosai
3 months ago#31
Please give me some online examples of prebuilts being better than custom builds for high end computers......

I will agree for low end, you are most definitely better going prebuilt cuz all the pats are crap anyways.

For mid-end im also tempted to ask for proof but there might be some validity.

For high end gaming computers i guarantee you that prebuilts will always be missing at least 1 or 2 components . (If not more.)

(By missing i dont mean not including , i mean the quality will suck comparitive to the rest of the components included in the pre-built.)
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User Info: Crenlar

Crenlar
3 months ago#32
ZaruenKosai posted...
Please give me some online examples of prebuilts being better than custom builds for high end computers......

I will agree for low end, you are most definitely better going prebuilt cuz all the pats are crap anyways.

For mid-end im also tempted to ask for proof but there might be some validity.

For high end gaming computers i guarantee you that prebuilts will always be missing at least 1 or 2 components . (If not more.)

(By missing i dont mean not including , i mean the quality will suck comparitive to the rest of the components included in the pre-built.)

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User Info: captsplatter_1

captsplatter_1
3 months ago#33
SilentHawk29 posted...
East West posted...
unless you have nothing better to do than to waste your time scanning the internet for the best deals and debugging your new build, prebuilts are worth it.

Or use a site that compiles 99% of the deals for each part?

Debugging? If you know to discharge static before working and your parts weren't DOA, there is no "debugging."

The issue is you have to buy all your parts at once and put it together all at once. Honestly if you find a good deal on the GPU, buy all your other parts then and there. Cause that one is the most annoying finding deals on.
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User Info: GTL581

GTL581
3 months ago#34
ZaruenKosai posted...
Please give me some online examples of prebuilts being better than custom builds for high end computers......

I will agree for low end, you are most definitely better going prebuilt cuz all the pats are crap anyways.

For mid-end im also tempted to ask for proof but there might be some validity.

For high end gaming computers i guarantee you that prebuilts will always be missing at least 1 or 2 components . (If not more.)

(By missing i dont mean not including , i mean the quality will suck comparitive to the rest of the components included in the pre-built.)

don't know where this distinction came in concerning strictly high end builds. also not sure where you draw the line on what's mid or high end, but here's a bunch ~$1000-$1500 computers that i had trouble getting to less than $100 with bottom of the barrel parts for a custom build, and i don't think that i was able to get them cheaper after matching as many components to what is actually included in the box. if you can make these happen with a cheaper build - part for part, then by all means please do it. i used to think that custom builds were always cheaper regardless of circumstance, until i saw the state of the market this past year. ram and certain gpu prices are way up, and i think that contributes a lot to it.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/475438/G405_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/473495/G419_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/476925/Rhodium_GXM7200I_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/475438/G405_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/475552/Codex_X3-013US_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/475551/Codex_X3-012US_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/477490/G710_Desktop_Computer

User Info: Dawnshadow

Dawnshadow
3 months ago#35
The last time I built my own PC from scratch, I got a bad out of the box PSU that ruined several other parts going down. Took a $100 trip to Microcenter to diagnose the problem (since I didn't have compatible spares on hand for a lot of the parts,) several RMAs, and outright replacing a few bits.

Ever since then, I've bought one from eCollegePC and the other I just had Microcenter assemble for me. I -can- do it, but it's worth it to me to get them to test all the parts.
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User Info: Crenlar

Crenlar
3 months ago#36
GTL581 posted...
ZaruenKosai posted...
Please give me some online examples of prebuilts being better than custom builds for high end computers......

I will agree for low end, you are most definitely better going prebuilt cuz all the pats are crap anyways.

For mid-end im also tempted to ask for proof but there might be some validity.

For high end gaming computers i guarantee you that prebuilts will always be missing at least 1 or 2 components . (If not more.)

(By missing i dont mean not including , i mean the quality will suck comparitive to the rest of the components included in the pre-built.)

don't know where this distinction came in concerning strictly high end builds. also not sure where you draw the line on what's mid or high end, but here's a bunch ~$1000-$1500 computers that i had trouble getting to less than $100 with bottom of the barrel parts for a custom build, and i don't think that i was able to get them cheaper after matching as many components to what is actually included in the box. if you can make these happen with a cheaper build - part for part, then by all means please do it. i used to think that custom builds were always cheaper regardless of circumstance, until i saw the state of the market this past year. ram and certain gpu prices are way up, and i think that contributes a lot to it.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/475438/G405_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/473495/G419_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/476925/Rhodium_GXM7200I_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/475438/G405_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/475552/Codex_X3-013US_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/475551/Codex_X3-012US_Desktop_Computer
http://www.microcenter.com/product/477490/G710_Desktop_Computer

These builds illustrate exactly what Zaruen was talking about. Some of those builds have some high end components but then you get slow ram and limited storage. Also we have no idea what model psu, motherboard, cpu cooler, which 1070 model etc.
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User Info: GTL581

GTL581
3 months ago#37
Crenlar posted...
These builds illustrate exactly what Zaruen was talking about. Some of those builds have some high end components but then you get slow ram and limited storage. Also we have no idea what model psu, motherboard, cpu cooler, which 1070 model etc.

if you look at the specs tab you can find most of the specific parts that are in there. not to mention that you can just look at the picture with the side panel off and know what's going on in there.

like the first link for example: evga 600b psu, msi z270 pc mate motherboard, hyper 212 evo, and 2x8gb g.skill 3000. all of that just from looking at the picture. that pc in particular doesn't include a gpu, but if you look at the other powerspecs that i listed it's not hard to see that one has a zotac amp! edition 1070 and the other has an asus dual-series 1070

like i said, the info is there; and regardless of the speed of ram or what storage is included, when you match each part for a custom build most of them come out to be more than the prebuilt.

User Info: kobalobasileus

kobalobasileus
3 months ago#38
Master Racists will complain that the "build quality" is poor and that pre-builts come with bad power supplies and whatnot, but you're correct, TC.

User Info: Crenlar

Crenlar
3 months ago#39
GTL581 posted...
Crenlar posted...
These builds illustrate exactly what Zaruen was talking about. Some of those builds have some high end components but then you get slow ram and limited storage. Also we have no idea what model psu, motherboard, cpu cooler, which 1070 model etc.

if you look at the specs tab you can find most of the specific parts that are in there. not to mention that you can just look at the picture with the side panel off and know what's going on in there.

like the first link for example: evga 600b psu, msi z270 pc mate motherboard, hyper 212 evo, and 2x8gb g.skill 3000. all of that just from looking at the picture. that pc in particular doesn't include a gpu, but if you look at the other powerspecs that i listed it's not hard to see that one has a zotac amp! edition 1070 and the other has an asus dual-series 1070

like i said, the info is there; and regardless of the speed of ram or what storage is included, when you match each part for a custom build most of them come out to be more than the prebuilt.

The specs tab doesn't list brands and model numbers. You shouldn't have to rely on a side view picture of the of the cases innards to figure out what you're getting. Not sure how you can tell what ram that is. The psu just says Cooler Master. Most consumers aren't going to know which model that is.

Look at the 5th link. I see know way of knowing what any of those components are. Most consumers aren't going to be able to identify gpu's from a side view picture that has no model number listed unless you're some sort of gpu aficonado.
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User Info: GTL581

GTL581
3 months ago#40
Crenlar posted...
The specs tab doesn't list brands and model numbers. You shouldn't have to rely on a side view picture of the of the cases innards to figure out what you're getting. Not sure how you can tell what ram that is. The psu just says Cooler Master. Most consumers aren't going to know which model that is.

Look at the 5th link. I see know way of knowing what any of those components are. Most consumers aren't going to be able to identify gpu's from a side view picture that has no model number listed unless you're some sort of gpu aficonado.

sorry, the specs tab only has some information for some of them.

moving on, the ram clearly says g.skill on the spine. there's not that many black g.skill ram variations at 3000, so take your pick of which it might actually be. and are you referring to the cpu cooler? there's an faq for one of the other computers that lists a 212 evo as the cooler, same as pictured in the first link, and i can confirm because it looks nearly identical to the 212 plus that i have in my computer. who cares where you're getting the information from? what we as consumers should be told upfront is an entirely other matter, and completely beside the point; we're not discussing the practices of of these companies. if the information is there, regardless of how it is presented, then you're able to put together a build with the same parts. even for the computers that are using questionable parts, if you assemble a pc with similarly questionable parts, the price will still lean in favor or the prebuilts after everything is accounted for.

the codexes weren't very good examples, but given that it's an msi brand pc, odds are that most components are from msi. you don't have to be an aficionado to know which gpu is which. the gpu in that 5th link? msi armor 1070. all you have to do is look at it, know the manufacturer, and use a google image search. you think i knew all of this stuff off of the top of my head? the process isn't great, but anyone who is really curious can find the info they want if they really look for it.

it used to be that when it came to prebuilts, you could match power with greater quality at the same -or slightly less- price. now, in order to match these prebuilts, you need to either spend a good bit more for better quality/same performance, or sacrifice a little horsepower to spend about the same with good quality components. as i mentioned before, for computers in this range, the culprit largely comes down to ram and gpu prices being so grossly inflated.
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